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How black holes saved relativity

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2016-03-30 15:19 -0500
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  How black holes saved relativity Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 15:19 -0500
    Re: How black holes saved relativity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-30 21:00 -0700
      Re: How black holes saved relativity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 02:43 -0700
        Re: How black holes saved relativity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-31 06:27 -0700
        Re: How black holes saved relativity HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 06:41 -0700
        Re: How black holes saved relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-31 14:32 +0000
          Re: How black holes saved relativity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 08:01 -0700
          Re: How black holes saved relativity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 08:08 -0700
            Re: How black holes saved relativity HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 08:27 -0700
            Re: How black holes saved relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-31 15:52 +0000
            Re: How black holes saved relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 11:58 -0500
              Re: How black holes saved relativity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 15:34 -0700
                Re: How black holes saved relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 17:57 -0500
                Re: How black holes saved relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-31 23:09 +0000
    Re: How black holes saved relativity vishnushelat@gmail.com - 2016-03-31 12:37 -0700
      Re: How black holes saved relativity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-31 14:01 -0700
      Re: How black holes saved relativity HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 15:24 -0700
        Re: How black holes saved relativity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-31 16:46 -0700
    Re: How black holes saved relativity xxein1@att.net - 2016-03-31 17:34 -0700

#566725 — How black holes saved relativity

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-30 15:19 -0500
SubjectHow black holes saved relativity
Message-ID<kOWdnQRhiZVWqWHLnZ2dnUU7-fudnZ2d@giganews.com>
How black holes saved relativity

Black Hole: How an Idea Abandoned by Newtonians, Hated by Einstein, and 
Gambled on by Hawking Became Loved
Marcia Bartusiak
2015 Yale University Press £14.99/$27.50hb 240pp

> While there have been many popular science books on the historical
> and scientific legacy of Albert Einstein’s general theory of
> relativity, a gap exists in the literature for a definitive,
> accessible history of the theory’s most famous offshoot: black holes.
> When asked for a good introduction to the strange regions of
> space–time that nothing, not even light, can escape from, one might
> mention Stephen Hawking’s A Brief History of Time. However, while
> this text is highly accessible, it primarily focuses on the search
> for quantum gravity, with black holes playing a smaller role.
> Meanwhile, Kip Thorne’s Black Holes and Time Warps is all about black
> holes, but makes a rather demanding read; although it can be
> compelling for physicists or serious enthusiasts, it is perhaps too
> long and technical for a mainstream lay audience.
>
> In Black Hole, the science writer Marcia Bartusiak aims for a
> discursive middle ground, writing solely about black holes at a level
> suitable for both high-school students and more mature readers while
> also giving some broader scientific context for black-hole research.
> Her text works harder than most to straddle the fence between
> popular-science exposition and history of science. Instead of simply
> developing the scientific theory and accessorizing it with historical
> facts, Bartusiak puts forward a thesis about the intimate
> relationship between the acceptance of general relativity and the
> acceptance of black holes by the physics mainstream.


-- 

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#566827

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-03-30 21:00 -0700
Message-ID<ndi77g$789$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#566725
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> How black holes saved relativity
> Black Hole: How an Idea Abandoned by Newtonians, Hated by Einstein, and 
> Gambled on by Hawking Became Loved.
>
> by Marcia Bartusiak
> 2015 Yale University Press Ł14.99/$27.50hb 240pp
<edited for clarity and brevity>
>> the legacy of Albert Einstein’s general theory
>> of relativity is a gap that exists in famous offshoots of black holes 
>> with black holes playing a smaller role.
>
hanson wrote:
That gap exists in Bartusiak's own "Black hole
with Hair" (google for it) and refers to her own
Dingleberries in it, which she sells for $27.50/each.
>
Enterprising Lady, I'd say.... ...ROTFLMAO!
ahahahaha... hahahahnson
 

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#566883

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 02:43 -0700
Message-ID<da36051f-15c6-4cf1-bbe8-11f0b0d3fbea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566827
What color is the hair?

A black hole is a vortex
in sub-space that shreds matter
into outwardly-moving jets of
High Energy Particles.
Sub-space is the building blocks
for sub-atomic particles at the
next material division down, size
scale-wise.

According to my Fractal Universe,
based on a galaxy/atom iteration,
that is, but not everyone is
completely sold on it, yet.

There is a basic wave form,
and someone even had this on
the cover of their book, but they had
no idea how it was generated
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/OnePathway.GIF

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#566906

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-03-31 06:27 -0700
Message-ID<ndj8fu$fsq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#566883
The Avatar of Vegetania  Sefton "john"
<johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> What color is the hair? ...referrign to
>
hanson who wrote:
 That gap exists in Bartusiak's own "Black hole
with Hair" (google for it) and refers to her own
Dingleberries in it, which she sells for $27.50/each.
>
The Avatar wrote:
> A black hole is a vortex
> in sub-space that shreds matter
> into outwardly-moving jets of
> High Energy Particles.
> Sub-space is the building blocks
> for sub-atomic particles at the
> next material division down, size
> scale-wise.
>
> According to my Fractal Universe,
> based on a galaxy/atom iteration,
> that is, but not everyone is
> completely sold on it, yet.
>
> There is a basic wave form,
> and someone even had this on
> the cover of their book, but they had
> no idea how it was generated
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/OnePathway.GIF
>
hanson wrote:
That is all good & right but wholly unkosher,
since google says in: "Stephen Hawking:
Black Holes Have 'Hair' - LiveScience
Black holes may sport a luxurious head of "hair"
made up of ghostly, zero-energy particles,
says a new hypothesis proposed by SH."
http://www.livescience.com/53363-stephen-hawking-black-holes-have-hair.html
>
OTOH, Bartusiak's own "Black hole Hair"
was curly black in her youth, but has become
unfurled and white with age, with the advantage
that her Dingleberries, which she sells for
$27.50/each ,  are very visible...
Good natural organic advertising, n'est pas.


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#566908

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 06:41 -0700
Message-ID<3b6fee44-5013-4348-9cc2-cb2217d8c1b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566883
john says
What color is the hair? 

A black hole is a vortex 
in sub-space that shreds matter 
into outwardly-moving jets of 
High Energy Particles. 
----------------

It's not the black hole per se that
causes these relativistic jets. It is the associated magnetic field that moves sub atomic particles at right angles to the black hole's poles. 
It's the universe's CERN 



Sub-space is the building blocks 
for sub-atomic particles at the 
next material division down, size 
scale-wise. 
-----------

Sub-space? Wtf is sub space?



According to my Fractal Universe, 
based on a galaxy/atom iteration, 
that is, but not everyone is 
completely sold on it, yet. 
-------------

(Cough)


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#566920

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-03-31 14:32 +0000
Message-ID<ndjcdf$g0o$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#566883
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>What color is the hair?

>A black hole is a vortex
>in sub-space that shreds matter
>into outwardly-moving jets of
>High Energy Particles.

The jets don't come from the black hole itself, but from the accretion 
disk of matter being sucked in, and the relativistic magnetic field.

<snip babbling>

John, your drool cup overfloweth.

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#566925

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 08:01 -0700
Message-ID<9d09629e-d8f1-4ef2-83f8-0e05c51d5378@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566920
SUCKED IN?????

No..o..o..o!!!

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#566928

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 08:08 -0700
Message-ID<e3b8d48e-9723-4e7e-a6bf-abb6fb36d41a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566920
Nobody denies that high-energy jets
shoot outwards when matter encounters
Black Holes.
Michael has a story, so does Odd.
Good.
But tell me- where is your proof that
ANY matter stays in the Black Hole?

I have always said that the vortex becomes
so fast near the Center that ALL
matter of our scale is ejected as HEPs.

Can you prove that matter stays there?
That Black Holes grow?
(Other than by merging.)

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#566931

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 08:27 -0700
Message-ID<5e8ad0a1-3268-4e8c-b786-9fb3a1d7e0c1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566928
john
Nobody denies that high-energy jets 
shoot outwards when matter encounters 
Black Holes. 
Michael has a story, so does Odd. 
Good. 
But tell me- where is your proof that 
ANY matter stays in the Black Hole? 
----------

John. A black hole isn't magic. Or is a star. It follows the same physics rules that every other star does. This tenders your question moot ie: Show proof that ANY matter is contained in a star

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#566935

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-03-31 15:52 +0000
Message-ID<ndjh3j$qok$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#566928
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Nobody denies that high-energy jets
>shoot outwards when matter encounters
>Black Holes.
>Michael has a story, so does Odd.
>Good.
>But tell me- where is your proof that
>ANY matter stays in the Black Hole?

Ummm, gravity.  Just do the math that shows the escape velocity from a
point beyond the event horizon exceeds c.

But you seem to believe that black holes are some sort of magical spinny
thing, not an extreme concentration of mass (with the associated gravity),
plus you don't even understand/believe in simple gravity, so I can't help 
you there.

>I have always said that the vortex becomes
>so fast near the Center that ALL
>matter of our scale is ejected as HEPs.

Not all black holes have spin, you know.

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#566958

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 11:58 -0500
Message-ID<ndjkvi$2qv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#566928
On 3/31/2016 10:08 AM, john wrote:
> Nobody denies that high-energy jets
> shoot outwards when matter encounters
> Black Holes.
> Michael has a story, so does Odd.
> Good.
> But tell me- where is your proof that
> ANY matter stays in the Black Hole?

The fact that things orbit around it, subject to gravity.
If there were no matter staying in the black hole, there would be no 
source of gravity to make them go around.

You seem to want to say things like "pure spin" gravitates instead of 
matter in black holes. That's just speculation.


>
> I have always said that the vortex becomes
> so fast near the Center that ALL
> matter of our scale is ejected as HEPs.
>
> Can you prove that matter stays there?
> That Black Holes grow?
> (Other than by merging.)
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#567061

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 15:34 -0700
Message-ID<77e4534e-4646-4e58-893f-1234d89433fb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566958
Odd said
"The fact that things orbit around it, subject to gravity. 
If there were no matter staying in the black hole, there would be no 
source of gravity to make them go around. "

Odd, just because you've always
seen things work this way doesn't 
mean they always do.
Nobody has seen inside a BH- nobody
knows if ANYTHING is inside.

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#567065

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 17:57 -0500
Message-ID<ndka12$15s4$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#567061
On 3/31/2016 5:34 PM, john wrote:
> Odd said
> "The fact that things orbit around it, subject to gravity.
> If there were no matter staying in the black hole, there would be no
> source of gravity to make them go around. "
>
> Odd, just because you've always
> seen things work this way doesn't
> mean they always do.
> Nobody has seen inside a BH- nobody
> knows if ANYTHING is inside.
>

Well that's true. But they know that something gravitates. And the 
theory of gravity predicts these things will come from the collapse of 
stars beyond a certain mass. And we have lots of stars, but none beyond 
that certain mass, and there's no reason why they wouldn't be there 
above that particular mass, and so that leads people to believe the 
collapse prediction. And then there's evidence of black holes, and so 
that's more evidence of the collapse.

This is why when we see a big crater on the surface of the earth, we 
know to go look for the meteor that caused it, and we're less likely to 
look for something like "pure spin" that created it.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#567069

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-03-31 23:09 +0000
Message-ID<ndkan5$rih$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#567061
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd said
>"The fact that things orbit around it, subject to gravity. 
>If there were no matter staying in the black hole, there would be no 
>source of gravity to make them go around. "

>Odd, just because you've always
>seen things work this way doesn't 
>mean they always do.
>Nobody has seen inside a BH- nobody
>knows if ANYTHING is inside.

Yes we do.  We know there is matter inside, and how much, when a black
hole candidate affects nearby stars.  The best example is Sagittarius A*
at the center of the Milky Way, which has several stars orbiting it. These
stars are being tracked, and from Kepler's Laws we can tell they are
orbiting *something* that is about 4 million solar masses yet is very
small (otherwise the stars would hit it) and quite invisible.

If not a massive black hole, what is it?

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#567016

Fromvishnushelat@gmail.com
Date2016-03-31 12:37 -0700
Message-ID<40fbeedc-1ae5-4143-99ae-80f4e436a6c7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566725
On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 1:19:27 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> How black holes saved relativity
> 
> Black Hole: How an Idea Abandoned by Newtonians, Hated by Einstein, and 
> Gambled on by Hawking Became Loved
> Marcia Bartusiak
> 2015 Yale University Press £14.99/$27.50hb 240pp
> 
> > While there have been many popular science books on the historical
> > and scientific legacy of Albert Einstein's general theory of
> > relativity, a gap exists in the literature for a definitive,
> > accessible history of the theory's most famous offshoot: black holes.
> > When asked for a good introduction to the strange regions of
> > space-time that nothing, not even light, can escape from, one might
> > mention Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time. However, while
> > this text is highly accessible, it primarily focuses on the search
> > for quantum gravity, with black holes playing a smaller role.
> > Meanwhile, Kip Thorne's Black Holes and Time Warps is all about black
> > holes, but makes a rather demanding read; although it can be
> > compelling for physicists or serious enthusiasts, it is perhaps too
> > long and technical for a mainstream lay audience.
> >
> > In Black Hole, the science writer Marcia Bartusiak aims for a
> > discursive middle ground, writing solely about black holes at a level
> > suitable for both high-school students and more mature readers while
> > also giving some broader scientific context for black-hole research.
> > Her text works harder than most to straddle the fence between
> > popular-science exposition and history of science. Instead of simply
> > developing the scientific theory and accessorizing it with historical
> > facts, Bartusiak puts forward a thesis about the intimate
> > relationship between the acceptance of general relativity and the
> > acceptance of black holes by the physics mainstream.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Einstein hated BHs but I like BHs.I have 3 theories that relate with them.Never forget my "CRITICAL MASS DENSITY THEORY" It is getting well accepted  Trebert

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#567036

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-03-31 14:01 -0700
Message-ID<ndk364$tvr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#567016
Cloaked as <vishnushelat@gmail.com>,<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> 
Glazier the Jewish Jailbird and despicable Full-Swine hate mongered
and wrote:
Einstein hated BHs but I like BHs to shot into .I have 3 theories that 
relate with them. Never forget my "CRITICAL MASS DENSITY THEORY"
which is seen as soon as.... 
>
TreBert <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> "reber g=emc^2" 
:B::ert Glazier,  the Hate monger, introduces hinself with/as
>
:B:: "I am a proud Jew with a Superiority complex &
:B:: an IQ of 122", & "I do know how everything works,.."
:B:: "My Grandfathers had tails". -- Trebert
:B:: "Being Jewish I know this is so very true" -- Bert.
:B:: "I'm a non-bible(torra) Jew. I'm the only Jew that
:B:: got 2 form letters from two Popes". Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
:B:: "I'll be sitting on Benj's, Saul Levi's & HVAC's face
:B:: to take a shit & say: "Open your mouth wide".
:B:: "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And laugh".
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "I'm M&M's Clueless Fuck-faced turd".Bert.
:B:: I'm "Siegman Fraud", "Bert, the Bowel Movement".
:B:: "I gave G=EMC^2 (wrong & stolen) to the world"
:B:: "Israel will drop its first H-bomb 'David' ". TreBert
:B:: __"I'm glad when war breaks out"__ Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
:B:: "Even the FBI has me as a trouble maker and
:B:: the FBI blocks my phone from calling them. "....
:B:: cuz "I was mixing sulfur, carbon & iron together
:B:: to make gun powder" ... & "while I was in custody
:B:: of Osceola Sheriff Bob Hansel, for thieving, his
:B:: deputies beat the shit out of me. So I bought a
:B:: 357 magnum for death threats by Sheriff Bob.
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
about which ....
Moderator General "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> aka
"Richard A." aka Harlow Campbell wrote:
>
"Bert, Seriously. You are the stupidest cocksucking
moron who ever came down the Mass Pike.
"Bert, you really are a pathetic excuse for a human
fucking being". "Bert is a racist. (And he's stupid too)"
"TreBert, you are one stupid cocksucker".
"Bert, does your stupidity know no bounds?"
"Bert, are the stupidest cocksucker on the planet."
"Spin THIS, Glazier, you fucking idiot." "Bert get
some spelling lessons, you feeble-minded fuck".
"Bert, your opinion doesn't count"
"Bert you are an idiot."
"Bert, you are a clueless cocksucker .... and "Bert
you are senile, dazed & confused. Fucked in the head.
"a trained cockroach is smarter than Bert"
"Bert, you should be arrested"
"Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your
van seems to be a center for drug activity in the
Wal-Mart parking lot".... .... about which....
 >
Glazier's ex-tutor Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
Glazier, your brain is entangles with a used garbage can.
Glazier, "Its a shame" that your science is far worse
than the man's on the street.
Glazier, your postings are old man's garbage.
reber, take your you know it all thinking to your grave .
reber, your horseshit gets old.Say hi to Allah for me.
reber, you don't believe in science.
Glazier, do not post in a science newsgroup.
Glazier, quit posting __ your Gutter Science__.
Glazier, exit USENET. -- IOW Glazier, beat it!..
 >
Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Glazier, you are a spamming piece of shit...
Your Cocaine usage explains a lot of your posts.
You are drunk again. Give up and kill yourself.
 >
Astrophysicist "Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote:
GLAZIER YOU ARE A LAMEbrain PIECE OF SHIT!
Saul Levy
 >
Rocket Scientist Virdy "Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
Glazier, you are babbling desperately. Is it sympathy
or pity you're grasping for? Stop it, either way.
 >
benj" <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
One only has to read Glazier's posts to see when Bert was lobotomized.
But Herb found poster "Double-A" who likes to be like Glazier,
but "Alkie-Alkie" is another kook who is as dumb as Bert is!
Now they party and frolic!...still waiting "to be loved by all"...
 >
hanson wrote:
So Glazier, given your Jewish Superiority complex and
your IQ of 122 and you knowing how how everything works,
... how come ended up shitting into a bucket in a 25 year
old van that you use as your residence on Wal-Mart's
Parking Lot? ..... .... What went wrong, Glazier?
 >
Now, Glazier consider "what will the say when Glazier dies?
Are they gonna say he was a kind man? He was a wise man?
He had plans? He has wisdom? .... BULLSHIT, MAN!"...
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAixFYnDh4> [D]
BULLSHIT,... because Swine Glazier DOES have plans
which Glazier, the Swine, announced and posted at the
ripe age of eighty (80) when Glazier became a criminal
Graveyard Vandal who wrote:
 >
(1)
On 25Mar2008 Swine Glazier wrote in:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J
Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face. -- Bert.
 >
Glazier's geriatric decay worsened, along with Glazier's chronic
alcoholism and Glazier, the Olde Kacker, became a Coprophile
IOW Glazier became a filthy Face Shitter at his age of 86, which
Glazier proudly announced & posted...
 >
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, Jew-Swine Glazier
said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>:
Reality is you always post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser.
Benj, you can thank me in advance. - TreBert. ... after which...
 >
Glazier, the Criminal Graveyard Vandal & Face Shitter got even
worse over the next year and at Glazier's age of 87, Glazier
widened his piggish Face-shitting habit, as seen when Glazier
threatened...
 >
(3)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, as Swine Glazier wrote:
Harlow HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com, Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nobody@gmail.com>: "I'll be sitting on your face
to take a shit & say: "Open wide". Trebert.
 >
(4)
The Criminal Swine Glazier refused to stop his practices & rejected
to be taken down, because Glazier at his age of 87+, Swine Glazier
labeled himself as "Siegman Fraud" which is synonym with "Bowel-
movement, actually saying that __ "Glazier is a piece of shit"__.
who, to boot, also announced that Glazier is a Transvestite who dons
female dresses and a Sarah Palin mask, saying that he has "nice
legs"...
 >
hanson wrote:
Now Glazier, since you are a curse and an embarrassment, day-in
and day-out, to every Jew everywhere, has it dawned on you
sorry, geriatric Transie-Swine, that as soon as you have been
"put away and under" Google will remove ALL YOUR posts from
the USENET and the only thing that will remain and show your
legacy, is because:
 >
Glazier the Swine fortunately posted:
.... "hanson made me famous"....
 >
hanson wrote
So, Glazier you swine you should be grateful to me & not wish
me ill like you did above, in your sick hate mongering, since
it is only because of hanson, that Web searches show for:
>
--- Swine Glazier G=EMC^2 Cretin ----            27'833 hits & rising
--- reber g=emc^2 Face-shitter & Vandal ----   27'953 hits & rising
>
cuz of hanson's caring and loving administering badly needed
<http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy> to the mental
cripple aka <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>. ... Shalom




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#567060

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 15:24 -0700
Message-ID<02b58374-1e5d-43c1-9fc9-c2fd0d6de1f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#567016
vishnu...@gmail.co
Einstein hated BHs but I like BHs.I have 3 theories that relate with them.Never forget my "CRITICAL MASS DENSITY THEORY" It is getting well accepted  Trebert 
--------------

What's up with this Vishnu Gmail shit? You trying to put one over on us Bert?

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#567078

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-03-31 16:46 -0700
Message-ID<ndkcmf$1e3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#567060
Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> cloaked as <vishnushelat@gmail.com>, 
is Glazier the Jewish Jailbird and despicable Full-Swine 
who hate mongered and wrote: <snip crap>
>>
Harlow wrote:
> What's up with this "vishnushelat" shit? 
> You trying to put one over on us Bert?
>
hanson wrote:
Yes, Glazier tries and he tries very hard to do so,
since  "vishnushelat" anagrams to "Evil hash nuts"  
and especially after you...
>
Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com> 
rightfully, righteously & courageously admonished
Glazier's criminal habits, by you saying 
>Bert, you should be arrested"
"Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your
van seems to be a center for drug activity in the
Wal-Mart parking lot".... ....
>
>... all of which can already be seen when
>
>
Bert <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> "reber g=emc^2" 
:B::ert Glazier, the Hate monger, introduces hinself with/as
>
:B:: "I am a proud Jew with a Superiority complex &
:B:: an IQ of 122", & "I do know how everything works,.."
:B:: "My Grandfathers had tails". -- Trebert
:B:: "Being Jewish I know this is so very true" -- Bert.
:B:: "I'm a non-bible(torra) Jew. I'm the only Jew that
:B:: got 2 form letters from two Popes". Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
:B:: "I'll be sitting on Benj's, Saul Levi's & HVAC's face
:B:: to take a shit & say: "Open your mouth wide".
:B:: "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And laugh".
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "I'm M&M's Clueless Fuck-faced turd".Bert.
:B:: I'm "Siegman Fraud", "Bert, the Bowel Movement".
:B:: "I gave G=EMC^2 (wrong & stolen) to the world"
:B:: "Israel will drop its first H-bomb 'David' ". TreBert
:B:: __"I'm glad when war breaks out"__ Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
:B:: "Even the FBI has me as a trouble maker and
:B:: the FBI blocks my phone from calling them. "....
:B:: cuz "I was mixing sulfur, carbon & iron together
:B:: to make gun powder" ... & "while I was in custody
:B:: of Osceola Sheriff Bob Hansel, for thieving, his
:B:: deputies beat the shit out of me. So I bought a
:B:: 357 magnum for death threats by Sheriff Bob.
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
about which ....
Moderator General "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> aka
"Richard A." aka Harlow Campbell wrote:
>
"Bert, Seriously. You are the stupidest cocksucking
moron who ever came down the Mass Pike.
"Bert, you really are a pathetic excuse for a human
fucking being". "Bert is a racist. (And he's stupid too)"
"TreBert, you are one stupid cocksucker".
"Bert, does your stupidity know no bounds?"
"Bert, are the stupidest cocksucker on the planet."
"Spin THIS, Glazier, you fucking idiot." "Bert get
some spelling lessons, you feeble-minded fuck".
"Bert, your opinion doesn't count"
"Bert you are an idiot."
"Bert, you are a clueless cocksucker .... and "Bert
you are senile, dazed & confused. Fucked in the head.
"a trained cockroach is smarter than Bert"
"Bert, you should be arrested"
"Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your
van seems to be a center for drug activity in the
Wal-Mart parking lot".... .... about which....
 >
Glazier's ex-tutor Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
Glazier, your brain is entangles with a used garbage can.
Glazier, "Its a shame" that your science is far worse
than the man's on the street.
Glazier, your postings are old man's garbage.
reber, take your you know it all thinking to your grave .
reber, your horseshit gets old.Say hi to Allah for me.
reber, you don't believe in science.
Glazier, do not post in a science newsgroup.
Glazier, quit posting __ your Gutter Science__.
Glazier, exit USENET. -- IOW Glazier, beat it!..
 >
Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Glazier, you are a spamming piece of shit...
Your Cocaine usage explains a lot of your posts.
You are drunk again. Give up and kill yourself.
 >
Astrophysicist "Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote:
GLAZIER YOU ARE A LAMEbrain PIECE OF SHIT!
Saul Levy
 >
Rocket Scientist Virdy "Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
Glazier, you are babbling desperately. Is it sympathy
or pity you're grasping for? Stop it, either way.
 >
benj" <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
One only has to read Glazier's posts to see when Bert was lobotomized.
But Herb found poster "Double-A" who likes to be like Glazier,
but "Alkie-Alkie" is another kook who is as dumb as Bert is!
Now they party and frolic!...still waiting "to be loved by all"...
 >
hanson wrote:
So Glazier, given your Jewish Superiority complex and
your IQ of 122 and you knowing how how everything works,
... how come ended up shitting into a bucket in a 25 year
old van that you use as your residence on Wal-Mart's
Parking Lot? ..... .... What went wrong, Glazier?
 >
Now, Glazier consider "what will the say when Glazier dies?
Are they gonna say he was a kind man? He was a wise man?
He had plans? He has wisdom? .... BULLSHIT, MAN!"...
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAixFYnDh4> [D]
BULLSHIT,... because Swine Glazier DOES have plans
which Glazier, the Swine, announced and posted at the
ripe age of eighty (80) when Glazier became a criminal
Graveyard Vandal who wrote:
 >
(1)
On 25Mar2008 Swine Glazier wrote in:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J
Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face. -- Bert.
 >
Glazier's geriatric decay worsened, along with Glazier's chronic
alcoholism and Glazier, the Olde Kacker, became a Coprophile
IOW Glazier became a filthy Face Shitter at his age of 86, which
Glazier proudly announced & posted...
 >
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, Jew-Swine Glazier
said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>:
Reality is you always post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser.
Benj, you can thank me in advance. - TreBert. ... after which...
 >
Glazier, the Criminal Graveyard Vandal & Face Shitter got even
worse over the next year and at Glazier's age of 87, Glazier
widened his piggish Face-shitting habit, as seen when Glazier
threatened...
 >
(3)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, as Swine Glazier wrote:
Harlow HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com, Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nobody@gmail.com>: "I'll be sitting on your face
to take a shit & say: "Open wide". Trebert.
 >
(4)
The Criminal Swine Glazier refused to stop his practices & rejected
to be taken down, because Glazier at his age of 87+, Swine Glazier
labeled himself as "Siegman Fraud" which is synonym with "Bowel-
movement, actually saying that __ "Glazier is a piece of shit"__.
who, to boot, also announced that Glazier is a Transvestite who dons
female dresses and a Sarah Palin mask, saying that he has "nice
legs"...
 >
hanson wrote:
Now Glazier, since you are a curse and an embarrassment, day-in
and day-out, to every Jew everywhere, has it dawned on you
sorry, geriatric Transie-Swine, that as soon as you have been
"put away and under" Google will remove ALL YOUR posts from
the USENET and the only thing that will remain and show your
legacy, is because:
 >
Glazier the Swine fortunately posted:
.... "hanson made me famous"....
 >
hanson wrote
So, Glazier you swine you should be grateful to me & not wish
me ill like you did above, in your sick hate mongering, since
it is only because of hanson, that Web searches show for:
>
--- Swine Glazier G=EMC^2 Cretin ----            27'833 hits & rising
--- reber g=emc^2 Face-shitter & Vandal ----   27'953 hits & rising
>
cuz of hanson's caring and loving administering badly needed
<http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy> to the mental
cripple aka <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>. ... Shalom







 

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#567088

Fromxxein1@att.net
Date2016-03-31 17:34 -0700
Message-ID<67c9bd21-f1e2-4cf1-aaee-26e96190bdde@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566725
On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 4:19:27 PM UTC-4, Sam Wormley wrote:
> How black holes saved relativity
> 
> Black Hole: How an Idea Abandoned by Newtonians, Hated by Einstein, and 
> Gambled on by Hawking Became Loved
> Marcia Bartusiak
> 2015 Yale University Press £14.99/$27.50hb 240pp
> 
> > While there have been many popular science books on the historical
> > and scientific legacy of Albert Einstein's general theory of
> > relativity, a gap exists in the literature for a definitive,
> > accessible history of the theory's most famous offshoot: black holes.
> > When asked for a good introduction to the strange regions of
> > space-time that nothing, not even light, can escape from, one might
> > mention Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time. However, while
> > this text is highly accessible, it primarily focuses on the search
> > for quantum gravity, with black holes playing a smaller role.
> > Meanwhile, Kip Thorne's Black Holes and Time Warps is all about black
> > holes, but makes a rather demanding read; although it can be
> > compelling for physicists or serious enthusiasts, it is perhaps too
> > long and technical for a mainstream lay audience.
> >
> > In Black Hole, the science writer Marcia Bartusiak aims for a
> > discursive middle ground, writing solely about black holes at a level
> > suitable for both high-school students and more mature readers while
> > also giving some broader scientific context for black-hole research.
> > Her text works harder than most to straddle the fence between
> > popular-science exposition and history of science. Instead of simply
> > developing the scientific theory and accessorizing it with historical
> > facts, Bartusiak puts forward a thesis about the intimate
> > relationship between the acceptance of general relativity and the
> > acceptance of black holes by the physics mainstream.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

xxein:  Same science - different words.  Time and $?  Less than worthless.

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