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  Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:09 -0700
    Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:10 -0700
      Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:13 -0700
        Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:27 -0500
        Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 15:16 -0500
          Re: Hmm "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 12:41 -0700
            Re: Hmm HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 14:15 -0700
              Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 22:13 -0400
            Re: Hmm PD <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 15:30 -0700
              Re: Hmm Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 19:10 -0500
                Re: Hmm "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 01:18 -0700
              Re: Hmm "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 01:10 -0700
                Re: Hmm A Nony Mouse <abc@cef.ghi> - 2016-03-24 02:40 -0600
                  Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 01:52 -0700
                    Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 08:55 -0500
                  Re: Hmm "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 11:14 -0700
              Re: Hmm moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-24 14:18 +0000
              Re: Hmm Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:45 -0700
          Re: Hmm kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-27 06:27 -0700
            Re: Hmm HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 08:12 -0700
              Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 11:47 -0400
            Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 09:24 -0500
              Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 13:12 -0400
      Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:25 -0500
      Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 16:03 -0500
    Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 16:04 -0500
      Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:44 -0700
        Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 17:05 -0500
          Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 15:19 -0700
            Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 19:54 -0500
              Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 18:13 -0700
                Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 07:58 -0500
                  Re: Hmm xxein1@att.net - 2016-03-26 19:09 -0700
                    Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 05:41 -0700
                      Re: Hmm xxein1@att.net - 2016-03-27 14:47 -0700
                        Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 21:27 -0700
                    Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 09:07 -0500
      Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 23:29 -0400
        Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 08:02 -0500
          Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:22 -0700
            Re: Hmm HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:32 -0700
              Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 12:01 -0400
            Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 09:57 -0500
          Re: Hmm Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:43 -0700
            Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:53 -0700
              Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:03 -0500
                Re: Hmm HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 08:25 -0700
                  Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 12:08 -0400
                Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 12:17 -0400
                  Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 11:31 -0500
                    Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:24 -0700
                      Re: Hmm Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:33 -0700
                      Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 12:54 -0500
                        Re: Hmm Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 12:56 -0500
            Re: Hmm HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:58 -0700
              Re: Hmm john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 07:20 -0700
                Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 12:20 -0400
              Re: Hmm Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 07:41 -0700
                Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 12:22 -0400
                Re: Hmm HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 09:42 -0700
                  Re: Hmm Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:28 -0700
                    Re: Hmm HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:41 -0700
                      Re: Hmm Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 11:21 -0700
                        Re: Hmm HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 11:42 -0700
                          Re: Hmm Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 16:26 -0700
                          Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 22:11 -0400
                        Re: Hmm Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-23 14:09 -0500
                          Re: Hmm Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 14:28 -0700
                          Re: Hmm noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 17:13 -0700
                        Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 22:05 -0400
                      Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 22:31 -0400
                  Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 21:59 -0400
              Re: Hmm benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 12:05 -0400
    Re: Hmm "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 01:19 -0700

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#565927

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-27 11:47 -0400
Message-ID<egTJy.84076$X_.43934@fx04.iad>
In reply to#565924
On 03/27/2016 11:12 AM, HVAC wrote:
> kenseto
>>
>> John, I can't reveal my name,
>
> Your name is Paul Draper
> --------------
>
> Why is it important in a discussion forum to know someone's name?
>
> Only bad things could come of it.
>
> Certainly you agree?

Especially when all your posts are calling people names, slandering them 
with lies and saying they are insane. Being anything but anonymous is 
certain to end badly. You agree?



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#566147

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-28 09:24 -0500
Message-ID<ndbere$slg$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#565904
On 3/27/2016 8:27 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 4:16:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 3/22/2016 1:13 PM, john wrote:
>>> And you know what, Odd?
>>> THEY ACTUALLY USED THEIR REAL NAMES!!!
>>>
>>
>> John, I can't reveal my name,
>
> Your name is Paul Draper.

Your name is Archimedes Plutonium.


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Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#566195

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-28 13:12 -0400
Message-ID<tCdKy.41868$pE.9745@fx40.iad>
In reply to#566147
On 03/28/2016 10:24 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/27/2016 8:27 AM, kenseto wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 4:16:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 3/22/2016 1:13 PM, john wrote:
>>>> And you know what, Odd?
>>>> THEY ACTUALLY USED THEIR REAL NAMES!!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> John, I can't reveal my name,
>>
>> Your name is Paul Draper.
>
> Your name is Archimedes Plutonium.

John is Archie? Say it ain't so, Odd, Say it ain't so!



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#564601

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 14:25 -0500
Message-ID<ncs67h$u0u$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564571
On 3/22/2016 1:10 PM, john wrote:
> 2000 engineers, Odd?
> All traitors?
>

Heck no, they're not traitors.

They just don't say what you claimed they said. They don't say that it 
isn't physically possible for a building to fall on its footprint 
without being imploded with detonation charges.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#564637

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 16:03 -0500
Message-ID<ncsbv4$17sr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564571
On 3/22/2016 1:10 PM, john wrote:
> 2000 engineers, Odd?
> All traitors?
>

Engineers talking about other catastrophic building collapses, none of 
which involved detonation of explosive charges, done in secret by the 
government (because they've lied about something else, therefore they're 
lying about this too) or otherwise.

http://www.bestonlineengineeringdegree.com/the-10-worst-high-rise-building-collapses-in-history/

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#564638

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 16:04 -0500
Message-ID<ncsc0r$17sr$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564570
On 3/22/2016 1:09 PM, john wrote:
> Hum
>

Do you remember the brand new bridge that fell down over the Tacoma 
Narrows because the wind was blowing?

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Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#564645

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 14:44 -0700
Message-ID<5c1dfaae-8ac2-4984-904b-bdc737b697d5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564638
Major froth.
2000 engineers plus 17,500 others
think ur wrong. Read for comprehension

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#564647

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 17:05 -0500
Message-ID<ncsfj6$1e2o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564645
On 3/22/2016 4:44 PM, john wrote:
> Major froth.
> 2000 engineers plus 17,500 others
> think ur wrong. Read for comprehension
>

Just cite the language in the report, John, that states
a) that the buildings fell inside their own footprint
b) that it is physically impossible for a building to fall within its 
own footprint unless deliberately demolished with explosives
b) that our country is being run by a cabal

I assume that you've actually READ the report, John, and so can cite the 
exact sentences that support your contention.

If you've only read the headline of the report and looked at the 
pictures, John, you can maybe understand why you lifting this citation 
up is full of shit.

While we're at it, John, do you know the difference between a report and 
a petition? Do you know the difference between a report and a set of 
questions?

What exactly are the claims of these 2000 engineers, John? I'm sure you 
can cite their words.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#564649

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 15:19 -0700
Message-ID<4739f767-a3dc-4fe8-b747-89166cce5a9a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564647
It was in the first paragraph 
Dolt

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#564666

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 19:54 -0500
Message-ID<ncspge$1r9o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564649
On 3/22/2016 5:19 PM, john wrote:
> It was in the first paragraph
> Dolt
>

Here is the first paragraph of what you cited:
==================================================================
Please take notice that:
On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned 
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition 
for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power 
in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - 
specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 
7. We believe there is sufficient doubt about the official story to 
justify re-opening the 9/11 investigation. The new investigation must 
include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that might 
have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center 
Twin Towers and Building 7.
===================================================================

So let's recap what it is they actually said.
1. They asked for an independent investigation about the collapse of the 
World Trade Center Towers and Building 7.
2. They say there is sufficient doubt to warrant further investigation.
3. They would like the investigation to include the possibility of 
explosives.

Now, please note that NOWHERE in this paragraph are any of the following 
statements or anything that would suggest them:
a) That the WTC7 building (or the towers) fell into the building footprint.
b) That it is physically impossible for a building to fall into its own 
footprint, unless it is deliberately demolished with explosives.
c) That this implies that US is run by a cabal.

If you can explain how you got from the actual statements summarized in 
1, 2, and 3, or for that matter in the paragraph quoted directly above, 
to the statements you allege in a), b), and c), I would greatly enjoy 
you trying to put that together.

If instead you say that a), b) and c) "obviously follow" from what they 
actually did say and that anybody who doesn't see it has their head up 
their ass, then I guess we'll just leave you to your quiet desperations.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#564668

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 18:13 -0700
Message-ID<04c9b89a-7b66-4a72-a963-bb4d9be556a9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564666
Dolt.

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#564771

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-23 07:58 -0500
Message-ID<ncu3ud$1obp$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564668
On 3/22/2016 8:13 PM, john wrote:
> Dolt.
>

John, just remember that most people don't see conspiracy where you see 
conspiracy. Just like the theory of gravity and dark matter, there are 
TWO possibilities here.

1. Your theory is right, and the input data is wrong.
2. Your theory is wrong, and the input data is right.

You might want to consider the possibility that the reason why most 
people don't see conspiracy is not because they are dolts, but because 
you are a little nutty.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#565822

Fromxxein1@att.net
Date2016-03-26 19:09 -0700
Message-ID<168e6ad8-41be-4166-be21-6b6e3d22dc8d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564771
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 8:58:59 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/22/2016 8:13 PM, john wrote:
> > Dolt.
> >
> 
> John, just remember that most people don't see conspiracy where you see 
> conspiracy. Just like the theory of gravity and dark matter, there are 
> TWO possibilities here.
> 
> 1. Your theory is right, and the input data is wrong.
> 2. Your theory is wrong, and the input data is right.
> 
> You might want to consider the possibility that the reason why most 
> people don't see conspiracy is not because they are dolts, but because 
> you are a little nutty.
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

xxein:  How could you know if your input data is right or wrong when its defined parameter/function is defined by the specific theory itself?

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#565900

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-27 05:41 -0700
Message-ID<e46c452f-9145-4f39-976c-7d6427596cce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#565822
Exactly.
"Input stupidity".
ASSumptions.

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#565998

Fromxxein1@att.net
Date2016-03-27 14:47 -0700
Message-ID<3af6c8ad-9f31-453c-82fd-8e4fd2a08340@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#565900
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 8:41:34 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Exactly.
> "Input stupidity".
> ASSumptions.

xxein:  Be careful, John.  Your input may not be as pure as you think it is.  This goes for all areas of your interests.  Wishes and beliefs taint input too.  I'm not judging.

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#566072

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-27 21:27 -0700
Message-ID<a6ad5b13-65bf-404d-ac77-fd48fcfbaebf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#565998
Yes.
We all look through our own glass.

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#566142

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-28 09:07 -0500
Message-ID<ndbdq2$qpb$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#565822
On 3/26/2016 9:09 PM, xxein1@att.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 8:58:59 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 3/22/2016 8:13 PM, john wrote:
>>> Dolt.
>>>
>>
>> John, just remember that most people don't see conspiracy where you see
>> conspiracy. Just like the theory of gravity and dark matter, there are
>> TWO possibilities here.
>>
>> 1. Your theory is right, and the input data is wrong.
>> 2. Your theory is wrong, and the input data is right.
>>
>> You might want to consider the possibility that the reason why most
>> people don't see conspiracy is not because they are dolts, but because
>> you are a little nutty.
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> xxein:  How could you know if your input data is right or wrong when its defined
> parameter/function is defined by the specific theory itself?
>

In the case of dark matter, you look for signals OTHER THAN the 
gravitational one.


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#564693

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 23:29 -0400
Message-ID<n4oIy.77411$QO6.13941@fx24.iad>
In reply to#564638
On 03/22/2016 05:04 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/22/2016 1:09 PM, john wrote:
>> Hum
>>
>
> Do you remember the brand new bridge that fell down over the Tacoma
> Narrows because the wind was blowing?

WOW! Building 7 fell down not because it was depressed over losing it's 
two pals, but rather because the wind was blowing? You are SUCH a kook, 
Boinker!



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#564774

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-23 08:02 -0500
Message-ID<ncu453$1obp$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564693
On 3/22/2016 10:29 PM, benj wrote:
> On 03/22/2016 05:04 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 3/22/2016 1:09 PM, john wrote:
>>> Hum
>>>
>>
>> Do you remember the brand new bridge that fell down over the Tacoma
>> Narrows because the wind was blowing?
>
> WOW! Building 7 fell down not because it was depressed over losing it's
> two pals, but rather because the wind was blowing? You are SUCH a kook,
> Boinker!
>
>

Oh, Ben, I know you're just chain-yanking, but do you know you look like 
an idiot when you're doing it?


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#564780

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-23 06:22 -0700
Message-ID<165228d3-afd5-4a60-ba55-585fd6175408@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564774
Hey!!
Building 7 fell down because of wind!!
Of course!

GPS signal was 10 out of 10, that day.
Usually, it's about a 4. 7 is awesome.
Could have remotely-operated
ANYTHING from A LONG WAY away
that day
(or UP)

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