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Why is HVAC so stupid?

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First post2016-03-21 07:35 -0700
Last post2016-03-22 14:33 -0400
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  Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 07:35 -0700
    Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 10:00 -0500
      Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 08:07 -0700
        Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 10:15 -0500
    Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-21 15:17 +0000
      Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 09:02 -0700
        Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-21 16:23 +0000
          Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 09:44 -0700
            Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 11:54 -0500
              Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-21 18:08 +0000
            Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 09:55 -0700
              Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 10:10 -0700
                Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 11:41 -0700
                  Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 15:02 -0400
                  Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 13:20 -0700
                    Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 14:46 -0700
                      Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 14:54 -0700
                      Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 23:54 -0400
                Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 23:37 -0400
              Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 15:01 -0400
    Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 23:27 -0400
      Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 07:49 -0500
        Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 06:28 -0700
          Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:12 -0500
            Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 07:20 -0700
              Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 10:05 -0500
                Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:03 -0700
                  Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:15 -0700
                    Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:11 -0400
              Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 08:09 -0700
                Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 08:42 -0700
                  Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:14 -0500
                  Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-22 16:56 +0000
                Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:08 -0400
            Re: Why is HVAC so stupid? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:33 -0400

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#564339

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-21 23:27 -0400
Message-ID<BY2Iy.37117$bB1.28030@fx30.iad>
In reply to#564122
On 03/21/2016 10:35 AM, john wrote:
> This goes for Odd and Michael, also:
> why would you cling to a gravity
> theory that is obviously wrong?
> When you do an experiment to test
> a theory, and the experiment says
> your theory is wrong, why would you
> think it's alright to bring in a whole
> new reality to bolster it?
>
> We are doing physics to understand
> matter- Oh!- the matter isn't behaving!
> There must be perfectly-placed INVISIBLE
> matter everywhere OUR theory needs
> it to be!! Yeah! That's it!
>
> Are you guys Bots, or what?
> You're INSANE
>

John, those in Authority tell them what to believe and they believe it. 
Simple as that.

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#564438

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 07:49 -0500
Message-ID<ncrf14$1j5c$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564339
On 3/21/2016 10:27 PM, benj wrote:
> John, those in Authority tell them what to believe and they believe it.
> Simple as that.

And those that buck authority only believe what their own minds tell 
them, whether that is demonstrably stupid or not. FREEDOM TO BE STUPID!

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#564445

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 06:28 -0700
Message-ID<39949ee1-fea1-46bf-9782-d3c035e45e53@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564438
The government has covered up SOME things, Odd.
Like you say.
Since they don't tell you what is
truth and what is not-

you can't believe anything they say.

Fact.

Benj is right.

You have no logical skills, Odd.

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#564458

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 09:12 -0500
Message-ID<ncrjs6$1s7d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564445
On 3/22/2016 8:28 AM, john wrote:
> The government has covered up SOME things, Odd.
> Like you say.
> Since they don't tell you what is
> truth and what is not-
>
> you can't believe anything they say.

Oh, John, that's just crazy talk.
Three comments:

- The government spans everything from first grade schoolteachers to the 
military to fire departments to DMV departments. So you're saying that 
because schoolteachers and fire departments are associated with the 
government, you can't believe anything any of them say?

- You make the mistake of thinking that you ONLY have the government's 
word to judge the validity of what the government is saying. And so 
you're in a box, because the GOVERNMENT isn't telling you whether 
they're lying or not, so you feel you have NO OTHER resource to make 
that discernment. And so in that box, you CHOOSE to distrust everything 
they say. It doesn't occur to you that there are OTHER CHANNELS to 
determine the truth of what the government is saying, and that is beyond 
what your own brain thinks makes sense?

- The government is not alone in mixing truth and lies. Private 
companies do the same, so you're saying you can't trust private 
companies at all, either. Your church does the same, so you're saying 
you can't trust your church at all, either. Banks do the same, so you're 
saying you can't trust your bank at all, either. Tiny little homeowner 
associations do the same, so you're saying you can't trust your tiny 
little homeowner association at all, either. Your FRIENDS do the same, 
and so you can't trust anything your friends say, either. So pretty 
soon, you're in the same boat as Ben, trusting NO ONE.

>
> Fact.
>
> Benj is right.
>
> You have no logical skills, Odd.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#564461

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 07:20 -0700
Message-ID<7650e964-6d16-42eb-bbbb-891fe662fdb3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564458
Shut up, Odd.
You're either disinfo or an idiot or both.
For sure you've a liar.

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#564474

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 10:05 -0500
Message-ID<ncrmvq$1vt$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564461
On 3/22/2016 9:20 AM, john wrote:
> Shut up, Odd.
> You're either disinfo or an idiot or both.
> For sure you've a liar.

I'll repeat, John, that you've not pointed out any place where I am a 
liar. Not one.

You've cited my alias and my educational background.

I've been plain about using an alias and have never pretended it is my 
real name. Not revealing my real name to you is not lying, John, no 
matter how much you want the information. I personally think you're a 
fucking idiot to use your real name.

I've not lied about my educational background, either.


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#564512

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 09:03 -0700
Message-ID<f1953351-9fa2-441f-a716-91fa979d8af0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564474
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 11:05:35 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/22/2016 9:20 AM, john wrote:
> > Shut up, Odd.
> > You're either disinfo or an idiot or both.
> > For sure you've a liar.
> 
> I'll repeat, John, that you've not pointed out any place where I am a 
> liar. Not one.

Those two sentences are a lie, for one. Odd, it is impossible for
anybody to never tell a lie. To begin with, you Odd are deceitful,
secretive, anonymous, ..., and a perpetual liar. Do you have credit
cards and bank accounts and children with falsified names as well?

> You've cited my alias and my educational background.

That you went to some unamed college is not useful. What degree?

> I've been plain about using an alias and have never pretended it is my 
> real name. Not revealing my real name to you is not lying, John, no 
> matter how much you want the information. I personally think you're a 
> fucking idiot to use your real name.

So when and where ought people use their real names? Why bother having
one? Given what and how often you write your OddNonsense, nobody would
want to use their fucking idiotic real name either. It makes sense.

Anonymous Server S(y)stems (ASS) should be disallowed. ASSes only
promote trolls, terrorists, and their ilk. Use your real name or don't
show your face in public (i.e., no bars, no restaurants, no parks, no
planes, no trains, no WWW, no Usenet, ...).

> I've not lied about my educational background, either.

Axiom: Liars Never Lie.
Proof: Trump Never Lies. Never! O wait... no need to wait.

> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Self-Evident: Liars Never Lie.”

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#564517

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 09:15 -0700
Message-ID<b8c9fd54-44b1-4410-bdef-1930a08d8ae7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564512
Maple loops says
That you went to some unamed college is not useful. 
----------

"Useful"?

What use would you have for the knowledge of where he went to school?

Besides stalking

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#564572

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 14:11 -0400
Message-ID<0VfIy.38867$111.2209@fx31.iad>
In reply to#564517
On 03/22/2016 12:15 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Maple loops says
> That you went to some unamed college is not useful.
> ----------
>
> "Useful"?
>
> What use would you have for the knowledge of where he went to school?
>
> Besides stalking
>
There is no school. There is no education. That is obvious.
Cripes even someone as out of it as you, Boinker, can see that!
There are no degrees in Pro Wrestling appreciation.


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#564478

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 08:09 -0700
Message-ID<d2d99ba8-6fa8-430e-9021-af75c340988f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564461
10:20 AMjohn
Shut up, Odd. You're either disinfo or an idiot or both. For sure you've a liar.
-----------

John, you seem a bit twitchy lately. Is everything OK?

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#564498

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 08:42 -0700
Message-ID<84301f68-b808-42ad-b140-d7c096412e5a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564478
 Odd
CBC is no longer allowing 'nyms like
you to express your
no responsibility opinions.
Surprised it's still allowed here.

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#564516

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 11:14 -0500
Message-ID<ncrr1u$997$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564498
On 3/22/2016 10:42 AM, john wrote:
>   Odd
> CBC is no longer allowing 'nyms like
> you to express your
> no responsibility opinions.
> Surprised it's still allowed here.
>

But it IS allowed here, John, and for good reason.
Now, you can rant all you want about whether the rules here meet your 
liking.
Not providing you information you want but aren't entitled to is not 
lying, John.

Stop your illegitimate charges of lying.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#564535

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-03-22 16:56 +0000
Message-ID<ncrtgp$pjm$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#564498
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

> Odd
>CBC is no longer allowing 'nyms like
>you to express your
>no responsibility opinions.
>Surprised it's still allowed here.

Why do you need to know Odd's real name?  To stalk him?

There are many, err, less than stable people here.  It's perfectly
understandable that he may not want his real name known to them.

I have no idea whether "John Sefton" is really your name or something you
found in a comic book or something.  And I don't care.  It's enough
for me to know what to expect when I see a post from "Odd Bodkin"
or "john", and can choose based (in part) on that whether to read it
or not.

If you need a real sounding name, why not just call Odd "Paul Draper".  
It seems every other kook does.

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#564568

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 14:08 -0400
Message-ID<DSfIy.38865$111.35465@fx31.iad>
In reply to#564478
On 03/22/2016 11:09 AM, HVAC wrote:
>
> 10:20 AMjohn
> Shut up, Odd. You're either disinfo or an idiot or both. For sure you've a liar.
> -----------
>
> John, you seem a bit twitchy lately. Is everything OK?
>
You take your meds today, H&V? I'll ask nurz Ratched for you.

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#564589

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 14:33 -0400
Message-ID<DdgIy.67271$X_.39207@fx04.iad>
In reply to#564458
On 03/22/2016 10:12 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/22/2016 8:28 AM, john wrote:
>> The government has covered up SOME things, Odd.
>> Like you say.
>> Since they don't tell you what is
>> truth and what is not-
>>
>> you can't believe anything they say.
>
> Oh, John, that's just crazy talk.
> Three comments:
>
> - The government spans everything from first grade schoolteachers to the
> military to fire departments to DMV departments. So you're saying that
> because schoolteachers and fire departments are associated with the
> government, you can't believe anything any of them say?
>
> - You make the mistake of thinking that you ONLY have the government's
> word to judge the validity of what the government is saying. And so
> you're in a box, because the GOVERNMENT isn't telling you whether
> they're lying or not, so you feel you have NO OTHER resource to make
> that discernment. And so in that box, you CHOOSE to distrust everything
> they say. It doesn't occur to you that there are OTHER CHANNELS to
> determine the truth of what the government is saying, and that is beyond
> what your own brain thinks makes sense?
>
> - The government is not alone in mixing truth and lies. Private
> companies do the same, so you're saying you can't trust private
> companies at all, either. Your church does the same, so you're saying
> you can't trust your church at all, either. Banks do the same, so you're
> saying you can't trust your bank at all, either. Tiny little homeowner
> associations do the same, so you're saying you can't trust your tiny
> little homeowner association at all, either. Your FRIENDS do the same,
> and so you can't trust anything your friends say, either. So pretty
> soon, you're in the same boat as Ben, trusting NO ONE.
>
>>
>> Fact.
>>
>> Benj is right.
>>
>> You have no logical skills, Odd.

Benj is always right. Look up what I have to say about HVAC!



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