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| Started by | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-03-18 06:13 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-03-18 12:09 -0400 |
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Fairy Circles HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 06:13 -0700
Fairy Circles HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 06:14 -0700
Fairy Circles john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 06:51 -0700
Fairy Circles HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:08 -0700
Fairy Circles john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:29 -0700
Fairy Circles HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 09:00 -0700
Re: Fairy Circles benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 13:17 -0400
Re: Fairy Circles benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 13:20 -0400
Re: Fairy Circles benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:14 -0400
shrOOms noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 10:57 -0700
shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 08:22 -0700
shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 08:34 -0700
shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 08:38 -0700
shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 08:40 -0700
shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 09:16 -0700
shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 09:32 -0700
shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 11:07 -0700
shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 16:06 -0700
shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 16:19 -0700
shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 18:04 -0700
shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 18:06 -0700
shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 18:35 -0700
shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 18:44 -0700
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 09:49 -0500
Re: shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 07:59 -0700
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 08:12 -0700
Re: shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 08:22 -0700
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 09:00 -0700
Re: shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 12:04 -0700
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 13:19 -0700
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 16:00 -0500
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 14:02 -0700
Re: shrOOms benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 23:51 -0400
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 08:08 -0500
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 06:44 -0700
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:54 -0500
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 08:38 -0700
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:00 -0500
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 10:18 -0700
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 10:21 -0700
Re: shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 10:26 -0700
Re: shrOOms benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:13 -0400
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 12:38 -0500
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 10:45 -0700
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 10:52 -0700
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:23 -0500
f our halves noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 17:20 -0700
Re: f our halves noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 09:16 -0700
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:27 -0500
Re: shrOOms moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-22 19:15 +0000
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:33 -0500
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:34 -0500
Re: shrOOms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:44 -0500
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 16:03 -0700
Re: shrOOms HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 14:45 -0700
Re: shrOOms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 15:22 -0700
Re: shrOOms benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 23:52 -0400
Re: shrOOms benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 23:46 -0400
Re: shrOOms benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 14:59 -0400
Re: shrOOms benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 14:56 -0400
Re: shrOOms benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 02:31 -0400
Re: shrOOms benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 02:26 -0400
Re: shrOOms noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 11:52 -0700
Re: Fairy Circles benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:10 -0400
Re: Fairy Circles Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-18 08:57 -0500
Re: Fairy Circles benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:09 -0400
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-20 18:06 -0700 |
| Subject | shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <cbdb50e0-2b28-4a44-ac71-626622dad704@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564009 |
Denier HVAC
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-20 18:35 -0700 |
| Subject | shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <27e962dc-3644-4905-a3e8-2da69249d25c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564011 |
John Denier HVAC --------------- John why can't you just admit you were wrong? Is it because it will cause you to rethink your entire life? Will it make you realize that not just THIS is wrong, but all your crazy notions are also wrong? Is that it John? That's it, isn't it?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-20 18:44 -0700 |
| Subject | shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <f3b9e016-89cf-4d86-a04e-357ae915c69b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564021 |
There are hundreds saying I'm right- many of them ex-military, ex-CIA, ex-astronauts. What were you saying, denier HVAC?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 09:49 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <ncp1lb$1q1s$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #564022 |
On 3/20/2016 8:44 PM, john wrote: > There are hundreds saying I'm right- many > of them ex-military, ex-CIA, ex-astronauts. > What were you saying, denier HVAC? > Let's probe your use of "many" here. Let's just arbitrarily draw a line at twenty. More than 20 is many, less than 20 is not many. So let's come up with a list of names, ex-military, ex-CIA, ex-astronauts, and count them up. You start. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 07:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <992ffc92-411c-467a-80ef-8b8241d40cd8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564129 |
Odd Bodkin - show quoted text - Let's probe your use of "many" here. Let's just arbitrarily draw a line at twenty. More than 20 is many, less than 20 is not many. So let's come up with a list of names, ex-military, ex-CIA, ex-astronauts, and count them up. You start. ------------- It's truly amazing to watch Kooks like BJ and John do their mental gymnastics. When presented with facts that go against their kook beliefs, they typically change the subject. It's almost as if they KNOW, at least on some level, that these ideas are bogus. But if they let even one tiny crack appear in their thin veneer of a belief system, and the whole rotten house of kook cards will fall apart.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 08:12 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <18bdbc77-dedc-45f6-8b77-ae13e0aaeb8c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564133 |
I know how it works, now!! I always wondered how you two are so blind! You have your heads up EACH OTHER'S asses!!
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 08:22 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <8420c05f-4ce9-445a-82be-d7ea47b7cf66@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564143 |
John, it's time to fold your tent and give up these kooky beliefs. You will be on the road to illumination once you do. Good luck
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 09:00 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <cb2c6e05-6ab6-467e-9073-46be9897c4d2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564150 |
HVAC Your whole paradyme is changing. Die or open one eye
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 12:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <94f45c5e-b8e2-407d-9787-24b1abc6d081@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564162 |
john HVAC Your whole paradyme is changing. Die or open one eye -------------- John, serious question. Is there ANY amount of evidence that would cause you to give up your beliefs? Like the fat guy... Even BJ finally admitted that fat fuck was lying and his 'alien' pictures were just a toy. What would it take for you to renounce your belief like BJ did?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 13:19 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <d8ec1035-b13b-4873-979f-0ee231f44bf9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564249 |
HVAC You're living in a fantasy. Building 7 just "fell down"? Truthfully, in your soul, which you reject and therefore you might have the last word on that, you must know that steel buildings don't "just fall down". "They put a transit on it and it was leaning". Have you seen Iraq?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 16:00 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <ncpnct$142f$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #564258 |
On 3/21/2016 3:19 PM, john wrote: > HVAC > You're living in a fantasy. > Building 7 just "fell down"? > > Truthfully, in your soul, which you reject > and therefore you might have the last > word on that, you must know that > steel buildings don't "just fall down". > "They put a transit on it and it was > leaning". Have you seen Iraq? > John, if you weaken (not melt, weaken) structural members of a building 3/4 of the way up, then it is entirely possible -- no, probable -- that the weight of the top 1/4 of the building will no longer be supported by those members and start falling. Now, you may have noticed that if you jump from a low stool onto your bathroom scales, the scales will not read your weight but in fact will register something like five to ten times your weight. That's the force of impact of you landing on the scales and the scales trying to stop you. So it is entirely possible -- no, probable -- that the force of impact of 1/4 of the building falling on intact stories below it, multiplied by a factor of five or ten by its fall, will be more than those members are sized to support, resulting in the collapse of the lower portion of the building. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 14:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <d97da38e-c9e5-411b-8f99-52b4ebb89660@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564267 |
Head Ass Look at some pics of Iraq
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-21 23:51 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <Ni3Iy.15496$pE.12098@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #564267 |
On 03/21/2016 05:00 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/21/2016 3:19 PM, john wrote:
>> HVAC
>> You're living in a fantasy.
>> Building 7 just "fell down"?
>>
>> Truthfully, in your soul, which you reject
>> and therefore you might have the last
>> word on that, you must know that
>> steel buildings don't "just fall down".
>> "They put a transit on it and it was
>> leaning". Have you seen Iraq?
>>
>
> John, if you weaken (not melt, weaken) structural members of a building
> 3/4 of the way up, then it is entirely possible -- no, probable -- that
> the weight of the top 1/4 of the building will no longer be supported by
> those members and start falling.
>
> Now, you may have noticed that if you jump from a low stool onto your
> bathroom scales, the scales will not read your weight but in fact will
> register something like five to ten times your weight. That's the force
> of impact of you landing on the scales and the scales trying to stop you.
>
> So it is entirely possible -- no, probable -- that the force of impact
> of 1/4 of the building falling on intact stories below it, multiplied by
> a factor of five or ten by its fall, will be more than those members are
> sized to support, resulting in the collapse of the lower portion of the
> building.
Except it's never happened before from aircraft strikes. And my favorite
is building number 7 the just got so depressed over loss of it's two
long time buddies that it simply collapsed with no fires or planes. You
science says that this is clearly possible, right? HVAC thinks
"plausible" is enough. Who gives a shit about what science says? What we
all want to know is WHAT DOES HVAC HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 08:08 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <ncrg4r$1lch$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #564348 |
On 3/21/2016 10:51 PM, benj wrote: > On 03/21/2016 05:00 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 3/21/2016 3:19 PM, john wrote: >>> HVAC >>> You're living in a fantasy. >>> Building 7 just "fell down"? >>> >>> Truthfully, in your soul, which you reject >>> and therefore you might have the last >>> word on that, you must know that >>> steel buildings don't "just fall down". >>> "They put a transit on it and it was >>> leaning". Have you seen Iraq? >>> >> >> John, if you weaken (not melt, weaken) structural members of a building >> 3/4 of the way up, then it is entirely possible -- no, probable -- that >> the weight of the top 1/4 of the building will no longer be supported by >> those members and start falling. >> >> Now, you may have noticed that if you jump from a low stool onto your >> bathroom scales, the scales will not read your weight but in fact will >> register something like five to ten times your weight. That's the force >> of impact of you landing on the scales and the scales trying to stop you. >> >> So it is entirely possible -- no, probable -- that the force of impact >> of 1/4 of the building falling on intact stories below it, multiplied by >> a factor of five or ten by its fall, will be more than those members are >> sized to support, resulting in the collapse of the lower portion of the >> building. > > Except it's never happened before from aircraft strikes. That's true. No 200-ton airliners have flown into skyscrapers before. > And my favorite > is building number 7 the just got so depressed over loss of it's two > long time buddies that it simply collapsed with no fires or planes. You think Building 7 collapsed with prior damage? Really???? Or are you saying that ONLY airplane strikes and fires WOULD cause a building to collapse? > You > science says that this is clearly possible, right? As far as I know, no science has said the collapse of Building 7 is physically impossible. > HVAC thinks > "plausible" is enough. Who gives a shit about what science says? What we > all want to know is WHAT DOES HVAC HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS? > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 06:44 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <f10dd226-3506-44c5-bb0a-a53790e965ba@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564442 |
Odd Haha Said Haha " As far as I know, no science has said the collapse of Building 7 is physically impossible. " Oh it collapsed alright. Right into its footprint. That government thermite is nasty stuff
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 09:54 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <ncrma9$q9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #564451 |
On 3/22/2016 8:44 AM, john wrote: > Odd > Haha > Said > Haha > " As far as I know, no science has said the collapse of Building 7 is > physically impossible. " > > Oh it collapsed alright. > Right into its footprint. Right. LOTS of buildings do that. Are you saying that science declares that a building collapse into its own footprint is physically impossible unless it's an engineered implosion? > That government thermite is nasty stuff -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 08:38 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <d5048acd-e25d-4c43-b7d1-4e234f1eb9a4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564469 |
Let's take a vote. Let's include the thousands of engineers worldwide. I'll get you the list
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 11:00 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <ncrq7f$7mp$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #564493 |
On 3/22/2016 10:38 AM, john wrote: > Let's take a vote. > Let's include the thousands of > engineers worldwide. > I'll get you the list > High ranking military, intelligence community, astronauts -- either former or current. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 10:18 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <638ade6f-2677-4074-9d5c-9229d4dfc572@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564509 |
Engineers
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 10:21 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: shrOOms |
| Message-ID | <3c4be268-6df6-4996-9655-b106d8586b58@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #564543 |
^ "9/11 Truth movement" is the collective name of individuals and organizations that are questioning the veracity of the results of the investigations by United States government agencies into the September 11 attacks. See Barber, Peter (June 7, 2008). "The truth is out there". Financial Times. Archived from the original on 3 June 2009. Retrieved May 23, 2009. an army of skeptics, collectively described as the 9/11 Truth movement; Powell, Michael (September 8, 2006). "The Disbelievers". The Washington Post. Retrieved May 30, 2009. The loose agglomeration known as the '9/11 Truth Movement'; Barry, Ellen (September 10, 2006). "9/11 Conspiracy Theorists Gather in N.Y". The Los Angeles Times. Archived from the original on 17 June 2009. Retrieved May 30, 2009. a group known as the 9/11 Truth Movement; Hunt, H.E. (November 19, 2008). "The 30 greatest conspiracy theories -- part 1". The Daily Telegraph (London). Retrieved May 30, 2009. A large group of people -- collectively called the 9/11 Truth Movement; Kay, Jonathan (April 25, 2009). "Richard Gage: 9/11 truther extraordinaire". National Post. Retrieved October 14, 2010. The '9/11 Truth Movement,' as it is now commonly called. ^ a b Abel, Jennifer (January 29, 2008). "Theories of 9/11". Hartford Advocate. Archived from the original on 2008-04-30. Retrieved 2010-08-09. ^ Kay, Jonathan (April 25, 2009). "Richard Gage: 9/11 truther extraordinaire". National Post. Archived from the original on 5 October 2009. Retrieved September 26, 2009. ^ "9/11 skeptics launch Canadian speaking tour". Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. April 30, 2010. Archived from the original on 4 May 2010. Retrieved May 1, 2010. ^ Ravensbergen, Jan (May 2, 2010). "9/11 skeptics to speak at UQAM". Montreal Gazette. Archived from the original on 4 May 2010. Retrieved May 3, 2010.[dead link] ^ "Un arquitecto estadounidense presenta en Madrid su versión alternativa al 11-S". Telecinco. November 8, 2008. Retrieved May 23, 2009.
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