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  The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 21:22 -0500
    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 23:10 -0400
      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-16 22:24 -0700
        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 02:57 -0700
          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 03:47 -0700
            Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 08:34 -0700
          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:56 -0500
            Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:33 -0700
              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:37 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:53 -0700
                  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-17 15:32 +0000
                    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:39 -0500
                      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:07 -0400
                        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:25 -0500
                      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-03-17 16:12 -0700
                        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:12 -0400
                        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:09 -0500
                          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-03-18 10:51 -0700
                            Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:58 -0500
                              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-03-18 11:27 -0700
                        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 00:39 -0700
                    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:43 -0700
                      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:02 -0500
                        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:22 -0700
                          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:45 -0400
                            Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:58 -0500
                              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:08 -0700
                        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:02 -0400
                          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:24 -0500
                            Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:56 -0700
                              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:12 -0700
                                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:23 -0700
                                  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-17 18:41 +0000
                                  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:14 -0700
                                    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 15:47 -0400
                                    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 14:37 -0700
                                    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 14:40 -0700
                                      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 14:50 -0700
                                        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 20:57 -0400
                                          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 21:51 -0700
                                        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 22:42 -0700
                                      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:20 -0700
                                  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:09 -0400
                              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 15:48 -0400
                              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:06 -0400
                      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:40 -0400
                      Re: BenJacoby and JohnSefton wear blinders. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 18:03 -0400
                        Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 02:50 -0700
                          Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 07:19 -0700
                            Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-18 14:45 +0000
                              Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 09:55 -0500
                              Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 07:56 -0700
                                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:07 -0700
                                  Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:14 -0700
                                    Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:37 -0700
                                    Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-18 15:38 +0000
                                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-18 15:35 +0000
                            Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 10:13 -0500
                              Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. xxein1@att.net - 2016-03-18 16:52 -0700
                                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:34 -0500
                          Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:02 -0400
                  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 20:48 -0700
                    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 01:59 -0400
                      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:36 -0500
                        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:03 -0700
                          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:13 -0700
                          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 10:47 -0500
                          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:54 -0700
              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:54 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:17 -0700
                  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:36 -0700
                    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:55 -0700
              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:19 -0500
            Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:58 -0700
    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-16 21:11 -0700
    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:36 -0700
      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:13 -0400
      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:10 -0500
      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 20:55 -0700
    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 20:35 -0700

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#563295

Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
Most people find it's just easier to agree with me.
>
hanson wrote:
Not "it's" but, "it WAS just easier to agree with
HVAC", when HVAC was the undisputed king of his
own family during the period when he was raising his
children.
>
Sorry to see that your loss of Throne makes you
suffahhh to the point of self-delusion, because now
HVAC's "most" is "toast", since NOBODY agrees with
HVAC, as HVAC tries to establish a new Kinkdom
for himself, wildly brandishing his Scepter.  LOL!
>
Harlow advertises and proselytizes for his kinkdom with
 cornerstones that HVAC has NEVER seen nor touched,
in his BELIEF of  curved & expanding space,  space-time,
space-like, time-like and point-like masses, etc... all just
being silly, useless Yiddisher notions which are like the
obscene and bizarre distortions of the human face and
form that the ACDC Jew Pablo Picasso's smeared onto
his canvasses.
(HVAC being lover of that may have prompted BJ to
suspect and post that HVAC is gay)
>
Harlow wrote:
> Jews are less than 1% of the world's population
> but make up 50% of Nobel prize winners
> Love em or hate em... Them mother fuckers are smart>

So, enter one of those "smart mother fuckers" namely one
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com>  Glazier, the Cretin, who
claims that Stockholm owes Glazier 5 Nobels cuz said he,
"I gave G=EMC^2 (wrong & stolen) to the world"
 ... which infuriated & prompted...
>
Moderator General "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Harlow Campbell to address Glazier with his Anti-Semitic
tirades of admonitions like when HVAC wrote:
>
"Bert, your opinion doesn't count"
"Bert, Seriously. You are the stupidest cocksucking
moron who ever came down the Mass Pike.
"Bert, you really are a pathetic excuse for a human
fucking being". "Bert is a racist. (And he's stupid too)"
"TreBert, you are one stupid cocksucker".
"Bert, does your stupidity know no bounds?"
"Bert, are the stupidest cocksucker on the planet."
"Spin THIS, Glazier, you fucking idiot." "Bert get
some spelling lessons, you feeble-minded fuck".
"Bert you are an idiot."
"Bert, you are a clueless cocksucker .... and "Bert
you are senile, dazed & confused. Fucked in the head.
"a trained cockroach is smarter than Bert"
"Bert, you should be arrested"
"Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your
van seems to be a center for drug activity in the
Wal-Mart parking lot".... .... because....
>
on 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, Swine Glazier wrote:
'Harlow HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com, I'll be sitting on
your face to take a shit & say: "Open your mouth wide".
Trebert. ..
>
>
========  Harlow's long gone Kingdom =======
>
hanson said:
> > Sadly, most goys fall victim to unreal notions of  curved &
> expanding space, spacetime, space-like, time-like and point-
> like masses, .. & they  become Einstein Dingleberries who do
> obsessively proselytize for the worship Albert's Sphincter. Pity.
>
Sefton John says
> Like HVAC, who denies that ANYTHING is wrong.
>
Odd Boinker wrote:
Yes, science can make big messes.
>
hanson wrote:
That's right, like science did when the Zionists used
Einstein and his brain farts of SR/GR for their political
agenda to urge the Diaspora Jews to return to
Palestine, to avoid Anti-Semitism!... Duh!
>
Anti-Semite Harlow wrote:
> John, Hanson hates relativity for reasons involving
> anti-Semitism. John. what's your excuse?
>
hanson wrote:
Harlow, hanson does NOT hate relativity. Hanson simply points
out that Relativity is USELESS in the real world except for
Einstein Dingleberries who still worship Albert's Sphincter, even
after contemporary Jews of Einstein, who were/are nobelists
and luminaries like:
>
||| Edward Teller, the inventor of the H-Bomb, who says:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwiayZ3sH7U >
||| "Einstein didn't know what he was talking about..."
||| "...or he was lying, or both".
>
Teller was/is NOT alone with that notion. Other luminaries said:
>
||| Prof. Carver A. Mead of Caltech (a student of Feynman),
||| "It is my firm belief that the 20th century will be
|||characterized in history as the dark ages of physics."
>
||| or F.A Hayek, Nobel laureate, who said: "In the future,
||| Humanity will see in our Epoch an Era of superstition, all
||| associated with the names of Marx, Freud and Einstein"
>
||| or John Beckman, an astronomy professor & Einstein disciple:
||| "The theory of relativity lives on. Is it a true picture of reality?
||| That is probably more a matter of FAITH than of proof."
>
> "Mahipal" Virdy <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
> understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
>
Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses,
> god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make
> fun of him.
> Maple Loops, what's wrong with that?
>
Virdy wrote:
Glad you HVAC asked. Now sit down and listen Soldier soldier SOLDIER!
Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others. Period. BitchHVAC!
Usenet is a discussion group, all are generally welcomed here, as long
as one stays on-topic. Yes HVAC, I mean you, look up what on-topic
means. Got Dictionary?! Everyday you HVAC post the same crap Crap CRAP.
Albeit in a nice new clean thread. Who reads or knows history, right?!
Since nobody dares, seems to me, challenges you, per my experience
reading here, you HVAC just encourage more worthless trolls to dilute
the quality of this what once was a fantastic science/physics
discussion newsgroup. Lose your Send key, HVAC.
>
Multiple choice question (MCQ), since HVAC your brain works only that way:
a) You HVAC are not being funny Funny FUNNY!
b) You HVAC are a Usenet Bully, obviously.
c) You HVAC are a Lonely Troll, hurts don't it?!
d) You HVAC see the dead ghosts of many 8 year old Vietnamese girls.
e) The longest answer is almost always correct in MCQs.
f) All of the above and then some.
>
-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: No more kid gloves, destroy the Bullies!”
>
hanson wrote:
Virdy, the underlaying reason in your MCQ is missing.
The answer is hidden in your hint that "Usenet is not
here for you HVAC to abuse others."
>
If you have followed the recent tripe in HVAC's s.p blog
you must have seen  that HVAC bitterly regrets, is
distraught and clinically depressed because he can't
deal and much less accept the fact that all of HVAC's
daughters and his son, have grown up and now have
left the home, which created a huge vacum in HVAC's
persona.
>
HVAC WAS the undisputed king over them for 25 years.
Now with all of his subjects gone they have left poor
Harlow de-throned and alone and lonesome.
>
HVAC now being a King without subjects, desperately
looks for Ersatz children, which he can boss & bully
around again, re-establishing his kinkdom, and HVAC
believes to have found a set of such peasants in form
of the posters in s.p.
>
Unfortunately, those s.p. folks behave far worse then
HVAC own kids did during their most rebellious teen
years.. and that galls the scepter wielding HVAC to
no end ... as HVAC begins to realize  that HVAC's
method of Ersatz parenting is being given the finger
from all directions, day-in and day-out, no matter what
HVAC says.... Pity, but IROTFLMAO... ahahahahahaa..
>
Talk to you later, Virdy.
>
PS:
The mental cripple <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>
is calling again to be administered to with badly needed
<http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy>

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#563238

On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 5:40:43 PM UTC-4, hanson wrote:
> "Mahipal" Virdy <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote, that...
> > Maple Loops says
> > BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
> > understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
> >
> Harlow wrote:
> > I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses,
> > god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make
> > fun of him.
> > What's wrong with that?
> >
> Virdy wrote:
> Glad you HVAC asked. Now sit down and listen Soldier soldier SOLDIER!
> 
> Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others. Period. BitchHVAC!
> 
> Usenet is a discussion group, all are generally welcomed here, as long
> as one stays on-topic. Yes HVAC, I mean you, look up what on-topic
> means. Got Dictionary?! Everyday you HVAC post the same crap Crap CRAP.
> Albeit in a nice new clean thread. Who reads or knows history, right?!
> 
> Since nobody dares, seems to me, challenges you, per my experience
> reading here, you HVAC just encourage more worthless trolls to dilute
> the quality of this what once was a fantastic science/physics
> discussion newsgroup. Lose your Send key, HVAC.
> 
> Multiple choice question (MCQ), since HVAC your brain works only that way:
> a) You HVAC are not being funny Funny FUNNY!
> b) You HVAC are a Usenet Bully, obviously.
> c) You HVAC are a Lonely Troll, hurts don't it?!
> d) You HVAC see the dead ghosts of many 8 year old Vietnamese girls.
> e) The longest answer is almost always correct in MCQs.
> f) All of the above and then some.
> 
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: No more kid gloves, destroy the Bullies!”
> >
> hanson wrote:
> Virdy, the underlaying reason in your MCQ is missing.
> The answer is hidden in your hint that "Usenet is not
> here for you HVAC to abuse others."
> >
> If you have followed the recent tripe in HVAC's s.p blog
> you must have seen  that HVAC bitterly regrets, is
> distraught and clinically depressed because he can't
> deal and much less accept the fact that all of HVAC's
> daughters and his son, have grown up and now have
> left the home, which created a huge vacum in HVAC's
> persona.
> >
> HVAC WAS the undisputed king over them for 25 years.
> Now with all of his subjects gone they have left poor
> Harlow de-throned and alone and lonesome.
> >
> HVAC now being a King without subjects, desperately
> looks for Ersatz children, which he can boss & bully
> around again, re-establishing his kinkdom, and HVAC
> believes to have found a set of such peasants in form
> of the posters in s.p.
> >
> Unfortunately, those s.p. folks behave far worse then
> HVAC own kids did during their most rebellious teen
> years.. and that galls the scepter wielding HVAC to
> no end ... as HVAC begins to realize  that HVAC's
> method of Ersatz parenting is being given the finger
> from all directions, day-in and day-out, no matter what
> HVAC says.... Pity, but IROTFLMAO... ahahahahahaa..
> >
> Talk to you later, Virdy.
> >
> PS:
> The mental cripple <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>
> is calling again to be administered to with badly needed
> <http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy>

Interesting analysis, but HVAC's Beliefs Nonsense is many years old. 
So... his kids must be very happy to be free of HVAC's tyranny.

Always good to read you Sir hanson! All the best!

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Stateless Memory Free Machines.”

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#563182

On 03/17/2016 02:23 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Maple Loops says
> BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
> understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
> ---------
>
> I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses, god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make fun of him.
>
> What's wrong with that?
>
Anyone who believes they possess ESP and can know other's thoughts and 
what they believe has the right to say any kooky thing they wish!

=====

I have given numerous references to the scientific work done on ESP, 
Remote viewing and the like with many excellent books easily available 
on Amazon.com. HVAC prefers not to read anything so as to remain 
ignorant. I have referenced a number of Nobel prize-winning scientists 
who have found significant ESP evidence. HVAC who thinks he is the 
“moderator” of an unmoderated newsgroup thinks he's smarter than them. I 
have referenced government projects costing millions verifying ESP 
effects. In spite of FOIA proof, HVAC acts as if they do not exist. I 
have listed PROOF BEYOND DOUBT of a government cover-up of UFO 
information from the government's own documents. HVAC admits nothing.

So everybody, the ONLY thing that anonymous HVAC (whatever that is) has 
going for "him" is the assertion that this or that person "believes" in 
Ghosts, ESP, or the like. That's it. He has ONLY his "superpowers" to 
tell you what another person has in their mind!  No evidence, no records 
of posts, nada. Of course such “superpowers” would be ESP, would they 
not? Science is only about evidence. Religion and pseudoscience is about 
"belief".  HVAC has no science education and knows no science.

So the only question YOU must ask is are you interested in science or 
strategic writer fantasy. Make your choice.

These paragraphs will be repeated every time HVAC accuses someone of 
"believing" in something.

PS. My “superpowers” tell me HVAC is Gay and needs to come out.


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#563174

On 03/17/2016 01:56 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
>> Virtually NONE of the above statements are true. Instead you rely on you
>> faith-based science that blindly accepts all establishment scenarios and
>> assures us that politicians and governments never lie nor get together
>> to commit crimes. I've said Boyd was fake (or fooled) right from the
>> start, so why are you lying with HVAC saying that I believe all this
>> disinformation is true? So you now join HVAC in the liars club here.
> -------------
>
> Don't let BJ off the hook too easily. He may not believe in John's alien, but he does believe that aliens are here on earth... Now.
>
> He doesn't like to admit it publicly due to his shame, but BJ will never say that he doesn't believe in ghosts. He feels that if he calls them 'persistence of consciousness' it's better than saying he believes in ghosts.
>
> He also believes in haunted houses.
> Ask him. He'll sputter and not answer with a direct response.
>
> He also believes in ESP, although he will attempt to divert attention away from his kookiness by saying that belief isn't a part of science. All the while he believes.
>
> He is also big on government conspiracies. Everything from the faked moon landings to 9/11 to the Bilderbergers.
>
> In fact, BJ Believes In EVERY paranormal thing that has ever come down the pike.
>
> BJ's 'science' is faith based
>


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#563180

On 03/17/2016 01:56 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
>> Virtually NONE of the above statements are true. Instead you rely
>> on you faith-based science that blindly accepts all establishment
>> scenarios and assures us that politicians and governments never lie
>> nor get together to commit crimes. I've said Boyd was fake (or
>> fooled) right from the start, so why are you lying with HVAC saying
>> that I believe all this disinformation is true? So you now join
>> HVAC in the liars club here.
> -------------
>
> Don't let BJ off the hook too easily. He may not believe in John's
> alien, but he does believe that aliens are here on earth... Now.

I'll believe it when I see an alien with my own eyes up close and 
personal. Hell, I don't even believe in YOU. I very much suspect you are 
an AI trolling server.

> He doesn't like to admit it publicly due to his shame, but BJ will
> never say that he doesn't believe in ghosts. He feels that if he
> calls them 'persistence of consciousness' it's better than saying he
> believes in ghosts.

I've never seen a ghost either. When I see some Vietnamese babies Ive 
killed as ghosts like you do, then maybe I'll believe as you do.

> He also believes in haunted houses. Ask him. He'll sputter and not
> answer with a direct response.

I don't even know what a haunted house is. There is some hotel down 
south of here that is supposed to be haunted. Is that a "house". Oh 
wait, for you it depends if it has a "madame" or not.

> He also believes in ESP, although he will attempt to divert attention
> away from his kookiness by saying that belief isn't a part of
> science. All the while he believes.

Notice that knowing what other people "believe" and have in their minds 
is .... you guessed it ESP! HVAC not only BELIEVES in ESP but also 
thinks he has it! Personally I believe all the "remote viewing" data the 
government got in experiments costing millions. When experiments are 
well done it takes a Luddite moron like HVAC to deny the results.

> He is also big on government conspiracies. Everything from the faked
> moon landings to 9/11 to the Bilderbergers.

Gosh. Here we go again. Come people now, smile on your brother and learn 
to believe HVAC that governments NEVER lie to the people, that 
politicians NEVER commit crimes. That NONE Of them are ever sent to 
jail. And that there is no such thing as Bilderbergers (even though 
Hillary was told at a meeting with them that Obama was getting the 
presidential nod that time and not her, but if she went along they'd 
give her a chance next time...and lo. It came to pass!)

> In fact, BJ Believes In EVERY paranormal thing that has ever come
> down the pike.

HVAC is sure of this because his ESP that he believes he has penetrates 
my mind and reads all my thoughts!  Say who is the KOOK here?

Dance Kooker DANCE!

> BJ's 'science' is faith based

HVAC is the fundie here. All he ever talks about is who believes what. 
There is no "belief" in science. It's all about measurements and 
experiments. FACTS!  Has ANYONE EVER seen HVAC actually discussing 
science here? He knows no science. He is a fake. He is a pseudoscience 
kook like Glazier with no intellect and no education. In fact, my theory 
is that he IS GLAZIER as one of his 17 personalities. He thinks its a 
hoot to "argue with himself"!

Watch! Now he'll call this "froth". TO HVAC truth is always just 
"froth". No "Harlow" I am NOT MAD!

I already "won" when I got you mad pretending to be a hippie calling you 
a baby killer, remember?

You are down for the count!

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#563120

On 03/17/2016 11:43 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Michael Moroney said
>> YOUR SCIENCE IS A LIE, A SHAM, YOU
>> ARE BEING CONNED!!!
>
>> How can you believe that shit, Sam?
>> When was science hijacked?
>
> Science is about what we MEASURE.  It is NOT about hallucinating about
> spinny things and saying "That's science!".
> -------------
>
> And that is the problem with the faith based 'science' of John and BJ. When it is shown that you are wrong, you cannot throw your old beliefs away. There's just nowhere to go. Their entire belief system will crumble if they admit they are wrong.
>
> People who rely on science, on the other hand, might bitch a bit but they will rethink their position and ultimately accept reality.
>
Oddly it is HVAC who believes in faith-based science. For him it's all 
about dogma and "belief" like all religion and pseudoscience.

HVAC is the king of pseudoscience.

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#563226 — Re: BenJacoby and JohnSefton wear blinders.

On 03/17/2016 05:32 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>
>     BenJacoby and JohnSefton wear blinders.
>     They don't care about evolution, gravitational fields and such.

We CARE Rolf! We CARE about lonely nerds living and eating chips and 
Pizza in their basement "command centers". We are TRYING to educate you 
to the reality of the world out beyond the basement and large brown 
fonts! But you aren't listening!

Rolf, WE CARE!
Evolootion is full of more holes than swiss cheese. It's not that it's 
all wrong, but it that people (like you) simply refuse to look at the 
parts that don't work. You imagine some little fantasy as to how it all 
fits together in your little atheist religion. Science ain't about 
religion, bub. (As I've told HVAC a thousand times!)

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#563327 — Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

BJ quacked
> Science ain't about religion, bub.
> (As I've told HVAC a thousand times!)
------------

Exactly correct. Science is not about religion. But YOU have allowed your foolish religious beliefs to lead you through science and into kookland.

You have sought to elevate such disparate kook notions as UFOs, intelligent design, ESP, faces on Mars and the 9/11 conspiracy to actual areas of interest for science. 

THAT is religion

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#563347 — Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

When the US government
decides that jet fuel can melt steel
fools and cowards and non-physicists agree

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#563348 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>When the US government
>decides that jet fuel can melt steel

Except they didn't, of course.

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#563350 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

On 3/18/2016 9:45 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:
>
>> When the US government
>> decides that jet fuel can melt steel
>
> Except they didn't, of course.
>

That doesn't matter to John.
What matters is that there is a conspiracy theory video on YouTube that 
claims that the government said jet fuel melted the steel and that this 
is of course impossible and that therefore there's a cover-up. John 
doesn't bother checking whether the government actually said that. Too 
much work.

-- 
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#563351 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

Of course they didn't.
They wired the buildings with
nanothermite- US military grade-
unfortunately, one of their fighter
pilots went off by himself and shot
down the plane destined for
building 7-
He's still in jail

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#563352 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

john
Of course they didn't. 
They wired the buildings with 
nanothermite- US military grade- 
unfortunately, one of their fighter 
pilots went off by himself and shot 
down the plane destined for 
building 7- 
He's still in jail 
----------

John are you on drugs right now?

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#563357 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

HVAC
No- are you?
I'll bet you take more drugs than me-
I haven't given Big Pharma (may cause death)
a dime in 15 years

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#563374 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

John are you on drugs right now?

John
HVAC 
No- are you? 
I'll bet you take more drugs than me- 
I haven't given Big Pharma (may cause death) 
a dime in 15 years 
------------

How much do you pay to Little Pharma?

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#563375 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>> John are you on drugs right now?

>HVAC
>No- are you?
>I'll bet you take more drugs than me-
>I haven't given Big Pharma (may cause death)
>a dime in 15 years

Ummm, he's not talking about the drugs from Big Pharma, of course.

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#563372 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>Of course they didn't.
>They wired the buildings with
>nanothermite- US military grade-
>unfortunately, one of their fighter
>pilots went off by himself and shot
>down the plane destined for
>building 7-
>He's still in jail

John, didn't anyone ever tell you, NEVER take the acid sticker with Goofy 
on it!

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#563356 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

On 3/18/16 9:19 AM, john wrote:
> When the US government decides that jet fuel can melt steel fools and
> cowards and non-physicists agree
>

   Ever wonder why the get engines are designed with materials to handle
   the high temperatures, John?

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#563522 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 11:13:45 AM UTC-4, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 3/18/16 9:19 AM, john wrote:
> > When the US government decides that jet fuel can melt steel fools and
> > cowards and non-physicists agree
> >
> 
>    Ever wonder why the get engines are designed with materials to handle
>    the high temperatures, John?
> 
> -- 
> 
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> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

xxein:  Sam.  You realize that your rebuttal is very weak, don't you?  John believes there was a cover-up wrt 911.  The explanation of evidence of the cover-up is weak.  Not foolproof.  Call it cherry-picking.  But the rebuttals to this cherry-picked, so-called evidence are weaker still.  You are emulating that.

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#563614 — Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

On 3/18/16 6:52 PM, xxein1@att.net wrote:
> xxein:  Sam.  You realize that your rebuttal is very weak, don't you?  John believes there was a cover-up wrt 911.  The explanation of evidence of the cover-up is weak.  Not foolproof.  Call it cherry-picking.  But the rebuttals to this cherry-picked, so-called evidence are weaker still.  You are emulating that.


   I was driving in Ames yesterday, and at a stop light the vehicle in
   front of me was sporting a bumper sticker that said "9-11 was an
   inside job".

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