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| Started by | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-03-10 09:50 -0600 |
| Last post | 2016-03-10 18:58 -0800 |
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The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 09:50 -0600
The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:47 -0800
The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:52 -0800
Re: The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 14:06 -0500
Re: The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 10:59 -0600
Re: The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 10:34 -0800
Re: The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 13:04 -0600
Re: The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-10 17:40 +0000
Re: The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 12:30 -0600
Re: The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-10 18:37 +0000
Re: The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-10 18:35 +0000
puff, the noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 18:58 -0800
| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 09:50 -0600 |
| Subject | The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics |
| Message-ID | <gOydnUAVRfpOCnzLnZ2dnUU7-R8AAAAA@giganews.com> |
The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics > http://phys.org/news/2016-03-great-smoky-dragon-quantum-physics.html > University of Vienna physicists have, for the first time, evaluated > the almost 100-year long history of quantum delayed-choice > experiments—from the theoretical beginnings with Albert Einstein to > the latest research works in the present. The extensive study now > appeared in the renowned journal Reviews of Modern Physics. > > Since the 17th century, science was intrigued by the nature of light. > Isaac Newton was certain that it consists of a stream of particles. > His contemporary Christiaan Huygens, however, argued that light is a > wave. Modern quantum physics says that both were right. Light can be > observed both as particles and as waves—depending which > characteristic is measured in an experiment, it presents itself more > as one or the other. This so-called wave-particle dualism is one of > the foundational principles of quantum physics. This questions our > common sense: can one and the same indeed be of two contradictory > natures at the same time? -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 08:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <fb093b44-d1b2-4c97-9fea-0ed2b6fd687d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #561148 |
QM is nonsensical- the damage it has done to science is incalculable
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 08:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <154ae7a7-390e-4a56-acc9-cbbc80564d14@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #561156 |
John QM is nonsensical- the damage it has done to science is incalculable ------------ I suppose the fact that the screen you are looking at to read this wouldn't be possible without our knowledge of quantum mechanics doesn't factor in to your opinion?
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 14:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <56e1c5a9$0$24092$c3e8da3$460562f1@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #561159 |
On 03/10/2016 11:52 AM, HVAC wrote: > John QM is nonsensical- the damage it has done to science is > incalculable ------------ > > I suppose the fact that the screen you are looking at to read this > wouldn't be possible without our knowledge of quantum mechanics > doesn't factor in to your opinion? > Please explain the display engineering that makes use of Quantum Principles. Be Specific. We'll wait right here. This is something you heard someone else say and just repeated, right? I heard that it was the reverse-engineered junk found at the Roswell crash that made modern computers possible.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 10:59 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nbs968$16ra$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #561156 |
On 3/10/2016 10:47 AM, john wrote: > QM is nonsensical- the damage it has > done to science is incalculable > What damage, exactly? I notice that you have repeated your cycle of going briefly quiet after being shamed about your kooky beliefs, and then making a random attack on physics. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 10:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <aadcf9e6-6f29-4cdc-b969-7b111b087de2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #561162 |
Odd twerped "I notice that you have repeated your cycle of going briefly quiet after being shamed about your kooky beliefs..." Like you went quite for awhile after you forgot you weren't PD? Enlighten me on the "shaming". Did I lie about something?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 13:04 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nbsggf$1jqb$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #561203 |
On 3/10/2016 12:34 PM, john wrote: > Enlighten me on the "shaming". > Did I lie about something? No, you didn't lie. You were had by a fraud, and you were ashamed to have that pointed out to you. I don't accuse you of lying. I accuse you of being a fool. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 17:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nbsbj7$k72$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #561156 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >QM is nonsensical- the damage it has >done to science is incalculable What damage is that, John? Allowing for the creation of an electronic device that allows you to babble on the internet?
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 12:30 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <-KWdnWOztdOmIHzLnZ2dnUU7-dGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #561156 |
On 3/10/16 10:47 AM, john wrote: > QM is nonsensical- the damage it has > done to science is incalculable > Yeah, like your computer, mobile phone, modern cars, GNSS, Emergency services and modern health care electronic. Yep, it a travesty for sure. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 18:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5hr8rc-jc6.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #561201 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/10/16 10:47 AM, john wrote: >> QM is nonsensical- the damage it has >> done to science is incalculable >> > > Yeah, like your computer, mobile phone, modern cars, GNSS, Emergency > services and modern health care electronic. Yep, it a travesty for > sure. QM has little to nothing to do with most of the things you list, spammer. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 18:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pbr8rc-jc6.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #561148 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > The 'great smoky dragon' of quantum physics Puerile, breatheless, tripe. Is there not an article title too idiotic for you to copy? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 18:58 -0800 |
| Subject | puff, the |
| Message-ID | <92ce31ab-d042-4e93-b725-acc70d93da74@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #561148 |
Huyghens was gOOd. there are really virtully no properties of light that conform to Newton's screw-up of corpusles, including the photon-electron effects ... iff you bother to think about it > > Since the 17th century, science was intrigued by the nature of light. > > Isaac Newton was certain that it consists of a stream of particles. > > His contemporary Christiaan Huygens, however, argued that light is a > > wave. Modern quantum physics says that both were right. Light can be > > observed both as particles and as waves--depending which > > characteristic is measured in an experiment, it presents itself more > > as one or the other. This so-called wave-particle dualism is one of > > the foundational principles of quantum physics. This questions our > > common sense: can one and the same indeed be of two contradictory > > natures at the same time? > > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues.
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