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  A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 21:54 -0800
    Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-03 06:26 +0000
    Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 08:29 -0600
      Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 06:31 -0800
        Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 08:35 -0600
    Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-03 14:56 +0000
    Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 09:34 -0800
      Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:14 -0800
        Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:19 -0600
          Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 11:07 -0800
            Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 11:26 -0800
              Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 17:09 -0600
        Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-03-03 10:24 -0800
          Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:47 -0800
        Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:33 -0800
          Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:43 -0600
            Re: A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:56 -0800
          Re: At temperature T, molecular speeds/energies are semiRandom. James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:58 -0800

#558825 — A Question to All of My Fans, Groupies, and Stalkers, From James McGinn

Do you think that if you had any direct evidence of gaseous H2O in 
the atmosphere that y'all would be so obsessed with me?

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#558837

James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you think that if you had any direct evidence of gaseous H2O in 
> the atmosphere that y'all would be so obsessed with me?

Obseesed?

This is low comedy, much like watching the town drunk repeatedly fall
in the gutter.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#558866

On 3/2/16 11:54 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>
> Do you think that if you had any direct evidence of gaseous H2O in
> the atmosphere that y'all would be so obsessed with me?
>

   Tools of the Atmospheric Scientist
> http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cxtdm/met/mwr.html

> Water can exist in the atmosphere in three different phases - solid,
> liquid, and gas. We observe water in the solid phase in the form of
> snow and in clouds composed of ice crystals. Rain falling from the
> sky and clouds made up of tiny water droplets represent the liquid
> phase of water (Fig. 1). *However, much of the water suspended in the*
> *atmosphere is in the form of an invisible gas we call water vapor* .

> A measure of the water vapor content of the air is called humidity.
> It is most often expressed as a ratio of the amount of water vapor
> present in a given volume (parcel) of air compared to the total
> amount of water vapor which that same unit of air could actually
> hold. This ratio we call relative humidity and it is always expressed
> as a percentage. When the relative humidity reaches 100%, the air has
> become saturated and water vapor will begin to condense into liquid
> water or ice crystals.
>
> Relative humidity can be measured with a hygrometer (Fig. 2) or a
> psychrometer. Hygrometers designed for home use are often found
> mounted together with two other weather instruments, a thermometer to
> measure room air temperature and a barometer to measure air
> pressure.

> Because water vapor is considered a *primary* greenhouse gas,
> scientists continually monitor the amount of *both water vapor* and
> *suspended liquid water* in the atmosphere. The instrument which ARM
> scientists use to make these measurements is called the Microwave
> Water Radiometer or MWR (Fig. 4). Scientists use the MWR to calculate
> the *total amount of water vapor* and the *total amount of liquid water*
> in a vertical column of the atmosphere directly above the instrument.
> The liquid water measured by the MWR is in the form of tiny suspended
> droplets which can comprise clouds. However, the MWR is not designed
> to measure larger size rain drops. These can overwhelm the
> sensitivity of the instrument and produce occasional "spikes" in the
> data.




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#558867

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 6:29:12 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 3/2/16 11:54 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> >
> > Do you think that if you had any direct evidence of gaseous H2O in
> > the atmosphere that y'all would be so obsessed with me?
> >
> 
>    Tools of the Atmospheric Scientist
> > http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cxtdm/met/mwr.html

They fail to distinguish between gas and evaporate, dumbass.

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#558869

On 3/3/16 8:31 AM, James McGinn wrote:
> They fail to distinguish between gas and evaporate, dumbass.


   Oops, James, you failed to realize that evaporate is gas. This is one
   of your fatal misunderstandings.


   Tools of the Atmospheric Scientist
 > http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cxtdm/met/mwr.html

 > Water can exist in the atmosphere in three different phases - solid,
 > liquid, and gas. We observe water in the solid phase in the form of
 > snow and in clouds composed of ice crystals. Rain falling from the
 > sky and clouds made up of tiny water droplets represent the liquid
 > phase of water (Fig. 1). *However, much of the water suspended in the*
 > *atmosphere is in the form of an invisible gas we call water vapor* .

 > A measure of the water vapor content of the air is called humidity.
 > It is most often expressed as a ratio of the amount of water vapor
 > present in a given volume (parcel) of air compared to the total
 > amount of water vapor which that same unit of air could actually
 > hold. This ratio we call relative humidity and it is always expressed
 > as a percentage. When the relative humidity reaches 100%, the air has
 > become saturated and water vapor will begin to condense into liquid
 > water or ice crystals.
 >
 > Relative humidity can be measured with a hygrometer (Fig. 2) or a
 > psychrometer. Hygrometers designed for home use are often found
 > mounted together with two other weather instruments, a thermometer to
 > measure room air temperature and a barometer to measure air
 > pressure.

 > Because water vapor is considered a *primary* greenhouse gas,
 > scientists continually monitor the amount of *both water vapor* and
 > *suspended liquid water* in the atmosphere. The instrument which ARM
 > scientists use to make these measurements is called the Microwave
 > Water Radiometer or MWR (Fig. 4). Scientists use the MWR to calculate
 > the *total amount of water vapor* and the *total amount of liquid water*
 > in a vertical column of the atmosphere directly above the instrument.
 > The liquid water measured by the MWR is in the form of tiny suspended
 > droplets which can comprise clouds. However, the MWR is not designed
 > to measure larger size rain drops. These can overwhelm the
 > sensitivity of the instrument and produce occasional "spikes" in the
 > data.


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#558872

James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> writes:


>Do you think that if you had any direct evidence of gaseous H2O in 
>the atmosphere that y'all would be so obsessed with me?

Nobody is obsessed with you.  It's just that some people like poking at
kooks with sharp sticks to watch their reaction, that's all.

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#558909

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 9:54:14 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> Do you think that if you had any direct evidence of gaseous H2O in 
> the atmosphere that y'all would be so obsessed with me?

Our lungs need moisture.Air contains moisture.Moisture is a gas made up of H2O water molecules. Trebert

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#558922

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 9:34:58 AM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 9:54:14 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > Do you think that if you had any direct evidence of gaseous H2O in 
> > the atmosphere that y'all would be so obsessed with me?
> 
> Our lungs need moisture.Air contains moisture.Moisture is a gas made up of H2O water molecules. Trebert

Uh, it's not a gas, dumbass, its a liquid suspended in the air.  If it was a gas it would kill you since H2O gas can only exist at much higher temperatures.

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#558928

On 3/3/16 12:14 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 9:34:58 AM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>
>> Our lungs need moisture.Air contains moisture.Moisture is a gas made up of H2O water molecules. Trebert
>
> Uh, it's not a gas, dumbass, its a liquid suspended in the air.  If it was a gas it would kill you since H2O gas can only exist at much higher temperatures.
>

   James, reber has it right -- Moisture is a gas made up of H2O water
   molecules.

   Water suspended in air is mist, fog, clouds and precipitation.


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#558962

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 10:19:19 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 3/3/16 12:14 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 9:34:58 AM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> >>
> >> Our lungs need moisture.Air contains moisture.Moisture is a gas made up of H2O water molecules. Trebert
> >
> > Uh, it's not a gas, dumbass, its a liquid suspended in the air.  If it was a gas it would kill you since H2O gas can only exist at much higher temperatures.
> >
> 
>    James, reber has it right -- Moisture is a gas made up of H2O water
>    molecules.
> 
>    Water suspended in air is mist, fog, clouds and precipitation.

Sam,

You admitted that you have no evidence that the moisture in clear air is gaseous.  Right?

If not then show your evidence.

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#558966

What we are seeing here is person after person grasping at straws to continue believing what you, actually, never understood.  We all grow up believing that the moisture in clear air is gaseous.  Most of us have at least enough education to realize the boiling point of water is much higher than that of our ambient environment.  And most of us realize that boiling has to do with a phase change from a liquid state of matter to a gaseous state of matter.  Most of us reconcile this dichotomy by just not thinking about it.  Some of us come up with rationalization to explain it away. But if you are going to do science you can't fall back on these excuses.  You have to see things for what they actually are.

There is no gaseous H2O in earth's atmosphere.

Moist air is heavier than dry air.

Moist air convection is impossible.

Meteorology needs another way to explain the power of storms, why storms are wet, and how heavier moist air gets so high in earth's atmosphere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwSyalcoRAk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dexlOvP7mPw

James McGinn
Solving Tornadoes

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#559038

On 3/3/16 1:26 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> There is no gaseous H2O in earth's atmosphere.
>
> Moist air is heavier than dry air.
>
> Moist air convection is impossible.


   Three strike and yer out!

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#558931

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:14:32 PM UTC-5, James McGinn wrote:
[]
> Uh, it's not a gas, dumbass, its a liquid suspended in the air.
>  If it was a gas it would kill you since H2O gas can only exist
> at much higher temperatures.

Continuing to demonstrate your lack of understanding of thermodynamics,
 I see. And insults to top it off. Sad.

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#558951

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 10:24:12 AM UTC-8, edpr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:14:32 PM UTC-5, James McGinn wrote:
> []
> > Uh, it's not a gas, dumbass, its a liquid suspended in the air.
> >  If it was a gas it would kill you since H2O gas can only exist
> > at much higher temperatures.
> 
> Continuing to demonstrate your lack of understanding of thermodynamics,
>  I see. And insults to top it off. Sad.

Fuck you.  Present an thermodynamic argument, you turd eater.

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#558940

Dne čtvrtek 3. března 2016 19:14:32 UTC+1 James McGinn napsal(a):

> 
> .... since H2O gas can only exist at much higher temperatures.

Since molecules do not have temperature, they do not care.

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#558948

On 3/3/2016 12:33 PM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne čtvrtek 3. března 2016 19:14:32 UTC+1 James McGinn napsal(a):
>
>>
>> .... since H2O gas can only exist at much higher temperatures.
>
> Since molecules do not have temperature, they do not care.
>

Plus, that's not what boiling point means. McGinn apparently believes 
that "boiling point" means "the temperature above which single molecules 
unbound to other molecules can exist". Have no idea where he ever got 
that idea about boiling point, but whatever.

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#558956

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 10:43:12 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> Plus, that's not what boiling point means. 

This isn't philosophy.  It's not matter of opinion.  

> McGinn apparently believes 
> that "boiling point" means "the temperature above which single molecules 
> unbound to other molecules can exist". 

Right.  

> Have no idea where he ever got 
> that idea about boiling point, but whatever.

Look it up.  Your education is not my responsibility.

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#558958 — Re: At temperature T, molecular speeds/energies are semiRandom.

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 10:56:38 AM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>  
> At temperature T, molecular speeds/energies are semiRandom.
> For more detail, see "Brownian Motion":
> 
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion

Yeah, so?

You simpletons can't present a coherent argument because you don't have a coherent understanding.

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