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Fourth Phase of Water

Started bySolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
First post2016-01-12 14:21 -0800
Last post2016-01-30 08:07 -0800
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  Fourth Phase of Water Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:21 -0800
    Re: Fourth Phase of Water Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 16:32 -0600
      Re: Fourth Phase of Water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 19:01 -0800
        Re: Fourth Phase of Water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 19:19 -0800
          Re: Fourth Phase of Water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-16 17:10 -0600
            Re: Fourth Phase of Water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 15:44 -0800
              Re: Fourth Phase of Water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-18 09:37 -0600
                Re: Fourth Phase of Water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:01 -0800
                  Re: Fourth Phase of Water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-20 12:58 -0600
                    Re: Fourth Phase of Water Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 16:35 -0800
                      Re: Fourth Phase of Water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-22 19:18 -0600
    Re: Fourth Phase of Water Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 10:16 -0800
    OHO phasals noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 12:36 -0800
      Re: OHO phasals Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 13:00 -0800
        Re: OHO phasals noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 12:44 -0800
          Re: OHO phasals Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 12:51 -0800
    Re: Fourth Phase of Water Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 09:59 -0800
    Re: Fourth Phase of Water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 08:07 -0800

#544889 — Fourth Phase of Water

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-12 14:21 -0800
SubjectFourth Phase of Water
Message-ID<4a8b0309-a3d2-47f5-9106-a4d6b32c082e@googlegroups.com>
The Fourth Phase of Water 

Meteorologists: Forced to Choose Between Wrong and Ridiculously Wrong 

. . . As with the other shortcomings of the steam-based convection model that I delineated at the beginning of this post, this failure to predict the discovery of these three meteorological phenomena is not something for which meteorologists are remotely concerned or even generally aware.  All in all, they demonstrate an amazing ability to pretend not to notice the shortcomings of their theory and even to conceal it by, as I indicated, hiding the notion of steam within the less plainly absurd notion of convection.  And then, of course, there is the evasiveness and name calling directed at anybody that doesn't play along with their desire to pretend not to notice. And yet, as mentioned previously, there appears to not be any kind of larger political agenda.  This leaves one scratching their head wondering what is at the root of these behaviors. 

I think I can answer this question.  And my answer does not in any way involve accusations that meteorologists are in collusion, lacking in intelligence, or cynical.  Rather, I suggest, they are mistaken on one point of fact that has resulted in them making an omission.  And in that omission they have closed themselves off to to an element in their explanations without which it is impossible to make sense of what is actually observed in the atmosphere, leaving them to choose between explanatory approaches that are wrong and ridiculously wrong.  And it all has to do with how we envision water getting up high into the sky. 

Here's the thing.  The pervasiveness of H2O in all parts of the troposphere (from the surface all the way up to the stratosphere) is undeniable. Likewise, the pervasiveness of H2O in all weather events is equally undeniable.  Moreover, H2O is constantly falling out of the sky.  Thus, the number one job of a theoretical meteorologists is to explain . . . 

For more go to: http://wp.me/p4JijN-5A 

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#544894

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-12 16:32 -0600
Message-ID<n73uuo$11dt$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#544889
On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> The Fourth Phase of Water

Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".



-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#545243

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-13 19:01 -0800
Message-ID<aed4f533-d785-4f73-a79c-6242f575ea2e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544894
On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:33:02 PM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> > The Fourth Phase of Water
> 
> Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".

Tell all your friends!

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#545783

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-15 19:19 -0800
Message-ID<e460f2c5-a2d9-4507-a6fc-0debff4135f1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#545243
On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:01:58 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:33:02 PM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> > > The Fourth Phase of Water
> > 
> > Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".
> 
> Tell all your friends!

Both of them.

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#545923

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-01-16 17:10 -0600
Message-ID<n7eing$6cd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#545783
On 1/15/2016 9:19 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:01:58 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:33:02 PM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
>>>> The Fourth Phase of Water
>>>
>>> Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".
>>
>> Tell all your friends!
>
> Both of them.
>

esod

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#546149

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-17 15:44 -0800
Message-ID<ac61c85a-9e53-4db7-8eee-206529fa0e04@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#545923
On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 3:11:52 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> On 1/15/2016 9:19 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:01:58 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:33:02 PM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> >>>> The Fourth Phase of Water
> >>>
> >>> Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".
> >>
> >> Tell all your friends!
> >
> > Both of them.
> >
> 
> esod

dose

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#546230

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-01-18 09:37 -0600
Message-ID<n7j0sr$bib$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#546149
On 1/17/2016 5:44 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 3:11:52 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
>> On 1/15/2016 9:19 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:01:58 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:33:02 PM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
>>>>>> The Fourth Phase of Water
>>>>>
>>>>> Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".
>>>>
>>>> Tell all your friends!
>>>
>>> Both of them.
>>>
>>
>> esod
>
> dose
>

chimp

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#546749

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-20 10:01 -0800
Message-ID<eedfcbe7-745f-4bcd-8edd-9288296a792d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#546230
On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 7:38:07 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> On 1/17/2016 5:44 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 3:11:52 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> >> On 1/15/2016 9:19 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:01:58 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:33:02 PM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>> On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> >>>>>> The Fourth Phase of Water
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".
> >>>>
> >>>> Tell all your friends!
> >>>
> >>> Both of them.
> >>>
> >>
> >> esod
> >
> > dose
> >
> 
> chimp

eek eek

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#546779

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-01-20 12:58 -0600
Message-ID<n7olfa$1906$9@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#546749
On 1/20/2016 12:01 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 7:38:07 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
>> On 1/17/2016 5:44 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 3:11:52 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 1/15/2016 9:19 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:01:58 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:33:02 PM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Fourth Phase of Water
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell all your friends!
>>>>>
>>>>> Both of them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> esod
>>>
>>> dose
>>>
>>
>> chimp
>
> eek eek
>


I wish you had quit before you made a complete ass out of yourself.

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#547353

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-22 16:35 -0800
Message-ID<7773c466-e497-4240-8829-2bf05197def2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#546779
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 10:59:59 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> On 1/20/2016 12:01 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 7:38:07 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> >> On 1/17/2016 5:44 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 3:11:52 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> >>>> On 1/15/2016 9:19 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:01:58 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:33:02 PM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> >>>>>>>> The Fourth Phase of Water
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tell all your friends!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Both of them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> esod
> >>>
> >>> dose
> >>>
> >>
> >> chimp
> >
> > eek eek
> >
> 
> 
> I wish you had quit before you made a complete ass out of yourself.

Trying to keep your posts at the top of the pile ?

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#547369

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-01-22 19:18 -0600
Message-ID<n7ukfh$13qg$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#547353
On 1/22/2016 6:35 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 10:59:59 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
>> On 1/20/2016 12:01 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 7:38:07 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 1/17/2016 5:44 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 3:11:52 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/15/2016 9:19 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:01:58 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:33:02 PM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/12/2016 4:21 PM, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The Fourth Phase of Water
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Posted to a group that Solving Tornadoes has declared is "just for trolls".

>>>>>>>> Tell all your friends!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> esod
>>>>>
>>>>> dose

>>>>
>>>> chimp
>>>
>>> eek eek
>>>
>>
>>
>> I wish you had quit before you made a complete ass out of yourself.
>
> Trying to keep your posts at the top of the pile ?
>

Reference?

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#548041

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-25 10:16 -0800
Message-ID<4c8dce8a-ce8c-4362-a3b3-0f3e5869ddfd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544889
kjk

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#548084 — OHO phasals

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-25 12:36 -0800
SubjectOHO phasals
Message-ID<c9f1f16d-926e-4de3-9a2a-6f07658c2b9f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544889
fourth phase of matter is plasma (or,
ionized atoms & electrons or\and positrons

> Here's the thing.  The pervasiveness of H2O in all parts of the troposphere (from the surface all the way up to the stratosphere) is undeniable. Likewise, the pervasiveness of H2O in all weather events is equally undeniable.  Moreover, H2O is constantly falling out of the sky.  Thus, the number one job of a theoretical meteorologists is to explain . . . 
> 
> For more go to: http://wp.me/p4JijN-5A

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#548093 — Re: OHO phasals

FromClaudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-25 13:00 -0800
SubjectRe: OHO phasals
Message-ID<a0276fc0-796e-49c9-b071-c1a6e18593c0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#548084
On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 12:36:27 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:

> fourth phase of matter is plasma (or,
> ionized atoms & electrons or\and positrons

Right.  These are, as you suggest, types of plasma.  Here is another type.  It occurs at ambient temperatures in the atmosphere.  It get's its energy from wind shear.  It is observable as the structure of tornadoes and jet streams.

http://wp.me/p4JijN-5A

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#548377 — Re: OHO phasals

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-26 12:44 -0800
SubjectRe: OHO phasals
Message-ID<371b8b8e-056b-435e-b294-740ba2f8899a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#548093
plasma is the medium of "free space,
that which waves in the lightwaviness

> Right.  These are, as you suggest, types of plasma.  Here is another type.  It occurs at ambient temperatures in the atmosphere.  It get's its energy from wind shear.  It is observable as the structure of tornadoes and jet streams.
> 
> http://wp.me/p4JijN-5A

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#548382 — Re: OHO phasals

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-26 12:51 -0800
SubjectRe: OHO phasals
Message-ID<c5648ea3-da70-4e02-8e72-e0770828059d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#548377
On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 12:44:17 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:
> plasma is the medium of "free space,
> that which waves in the lightwaviness
> 
> > Right.  These are, as you suggest, types of plasma.  Here is another type.  It occurs at ambient temperatures in the atmosphere.  It get's its energy from wind shear.  It is observable as the structure of tornadoes and jet streams.
> > 
> > http://wp.me/p4JijN-5A

Obviously this is a different type of plasma from what is typical.  

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#548796

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-28 09:59 -0800
Message-ID<87922f7b-66ea-462f-a67c-07fbed37d855@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544889
On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:21:44 PM UTC-8, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> The Fourth Phase of Water 
> 
> Meteorologists: Forced to Choose Between Wrong and Ridiculously Wrong 
> 
> . . . As with the other shortcomings of the steam-based convection model that I delineated at the beginning of this post, this failure to predict the discovery of these three meteorological phenomena is not something for which meteorologists are remotely concerned or even generally aware.  All in all, they demonstrate an amazing ability to pretend not to notice the shortcomings of their theory and even to conceal it by, as I indicated, hiding the notion of steam within the less plainly absurd notion of convection.  And then, of course, there is the evasiveness and name calling directed at anybody that doesn't play along with their desire to pretend not to notice. And yet, as mentioned previously, there appears to not be any kind of larger political agenda.  This leaves one scratching their head wondering what is at the root of these behaviors. 
> 
> I think I can answer this question.  And my answer does not in any way involve accusations that meteorologists are in collusion, lacking in intelligence, or cynical.  Rather, I suggest, they are mistaken on one point of fact that has resulted in them making an omission.  And in that omission they have closed themselves off to to an element in their explanations without which it is impossible to make sense of what is actually observed in the atmosphere, leaving them to choose between explanatory approaches that are wrong and ridiculously wrong.  And it all has to do with how we envision water getting up high into the sky. 
> 
> 

Here's the thing.  The pervasiveness of H2O in all parts of the troposphere (from the surface all the way up to the stratosphere) is undeniable. Likewise, the pervasiveness of H2O in all weather events is equally undeniable.  Moreover, H2O is constantly falling out of the sky.  Thus, the number one job of a theoretical meteorologists is to explain . . . 
> 
> For more go to: http://wp.me/p4JijN-5A

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#549386

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-30 08:07 -0800
Message-ID<59a2b3f9-5938-4980-ace0-d7033aa8dc60@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544889
On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:21:44 PM UTC-8, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> The Fourth Phase of Water 
> 
> Meteorologists: Forced to Choose Between Wrong and Ridiculously Wrong 
> 
> . . . As with the other shortcomings of the steam-based convection model that I delineated at the beginning of this post, this failure to predict the discovery of these three meteorological phenomena is not something for which meteorologists are remotely concerned or even generally aware.  All in all, they demonstrate an amazing ability to pretend not to notice the shortcomings of their theory and even to conceal it by, as I indicated, hiding the notion of steam within the less plainly absurd notion of convection.  And then, of course, there is the evasiveness and name calling directed at anybody that doesn't play along with their desire to pretend not to notice. And yet, as mentioned previously, there appears to not be any kind of larger political agenda.  This leaves one scratching their head wondering what is at the root of these behaviors. 
> 
> I think I can answer this question.  And my answer does not in any way involve accusations that meteorologists are in collusion, lacking in intelligence, or cynical.  Rather, I suggest, they are mistaken on one point of fact that has resulted in them making an omission.  And in that omission they have closed themselves off to to an element in their explanations without which it is impossible to make sense of what is actually observed in the atmosphere, leaving them to choose between explanatory approaches that are wrong and ridiculously wrong.  And it all has to do with how we envision water getting up high into the sky. 
> 
> 
Here's the thing.  The pervasiveness of H2O in all parts of the troposphere (from the surface all the way up to the stratosphere) is undeniable. Likewise, the pervasiveness of H2O in all weather events is equally undeniable.  Moreover, H2O is constantly falling out of the sky.  Thus, the number one job of a theoretical meteorologists is to explain . . . 
> 
> For more go to: http://wp.me/p4JijN-5A

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