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| First post | 2016-01-11 07:43 -0800 |
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The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 07:43 -0800
The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 08:09 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 14:31 -0500
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 10:15 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 09:03 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 14:25 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 10:30 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 10:40 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 10:40 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 13:00 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 11:40 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 12:36 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 12:47 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:32 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 13:43 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:56 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 13:58 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 16:15 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-11 22:18 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 08:48 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:00 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:18 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-12 18:32 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 13:59 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-12 23:55 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:41 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 18:20 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-13 03:33 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-01-12 20:19 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 03:00 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 17:50 -0500
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-13 03:17 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:53 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 06:55 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:02 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 09:54 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-13 16:31 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 11:01 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 11:04 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 13:25 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 14:05 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 19:45 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 06:25 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 06:18 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 09:26 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 16:35 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 09:05 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 17:55 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:25 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 12:57 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 13:26 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 16:48 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 16:14 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2016-01-15 03:01 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 19:25 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 10:52 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 09:07 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 07:12 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 08:52 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 09:36 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:00 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 19:18 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 02:26 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 15:23 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 11:44 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 16:45 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 08:20 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 06:36 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 06:45 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 07:13 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 12:41 -0500
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 09:30 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 07:46 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 07:55 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:21 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 16:20 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:19 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:20 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-13 15:05 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 09:09 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:45 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 10:00 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 08:37 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-13 16:46 +0000
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 10:58 -0600
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:40 -0800
Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:10 -0500
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 07:43 -0800 |
| Subject | The Universe is a Reverse Fractal |
| Message-ID | <3e3ee95c-d71b-4186-9143-0fac3910f356@googlegroups.com> |
The small is assembled into the large. The Universe is not only expanding, it is expanding in an organized way.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 08:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1bf722f7-0e2c-4634-af4e-3dbebc72b76f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544442 |
John read a book by Larry Niven called Neutron Star http://www.e-reading.mobi/book.php?book=71035 Epub here
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 14:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <yqTky.239070$qV1.237816@fx25.iad> |
| In reply to | #544448 |
On 01/11/2016 11:09 AM, HVAC wrote:
> John read a book by Larry Niven called Neutron Star
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> http://www.e-reading.mobi/book.php?book=71035
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> Epub here
HVAC never reads books. Too much work getting facts when you can just
make it all up.
And H&V NEVER use the word "FRACTAL" in the presents of Treebert or the
next thing you know he'll have a "new" theory.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 10:15 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <EsGdnTKbcomtSA7LnZ2dnUU7-e-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #544442 |
Anatomy Of Addiction: How Heroin And Opioids Hijack The Brain > http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/01/11/462390288/anatomy-of-addiction-how-heroin-and-opioids-hijack-the-brain > When Jack O'Connor was 19, he was so desperate to beat his addictions > to alcohol and opioids that he took a really rash step. He joined the > Marines. > > "This will fix me," O'Connor thought as he went to boot camp. "It > better fix me or I'm screwed." > > After 13 weeks of sobriety and exercise and discipline, O'Connor > completed basic training, but he started using again immediately. > > "Same thing," he says. "Percocet, like, off the street. Pills." -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 09:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <61632d23-7330-4e65-b7e1-25128b888c25@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544449 |
Look for God within you. The Intelligence there has had 10^31 times as long to evolve, comparatively
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 14:25 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n7133s$9cq$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #544461 |
On 1/11/2016 11:03 AM, john wrote: > Look for God within you. > The Intelligence there has had 10^31 > times as long to evolve, comparatively > Where did you get that number, John? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 10:30 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e5c22c03-a7e3-49af-8f7b-fdd0377e039e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544442 |
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 7:43:53 AM UTC-8, john wrote: > The small is assembled into the large. > The Universe is not only expanding, it > is expanding in an organized way. All universes are exactly the same other than their charge.TreBert
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 10:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <01d6a22c-fab0-4a29-9712-a282c8d93675@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544490 |
All universes are exactly the same other than their charge.TreBert ---------- Bert. Please. Stfu
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 10:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <bf7bbd05-8b04-4156-b0b6-05aef3fe213e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544490 |
Except for the reverse universes. For them, the charge is reverse. So, they actually go back wards in time
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 13:00 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <EsGdnSWbcolNZg7LnZ2dnUU7-e8AAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #544495 |
On 1/11/16 12:40 PM, john wrote:
> Except for the reverse universes.
> For them, the charge is reverse.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 11:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9b3924ab-35f3-470a-8521-43f6011803ef@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544495 |
Except for the reverse universes. For them, the charge is reverse. So, they actually go back wards in time ------------ Unfuckingbelievable Do you ever think before you hit send? Backwards universes. Fractal bullshit. Seriously, what in the actual fuck are you smoking?
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 12:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8a1f18fc-b62c-4bff-8240-37d3a4e7bd3a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544495 |
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:40:50 AM UTC-8, john wrote: > Except for the reverse universes. > For them, the charge is reverse. So, they actually > go back wards in time Time does not change with polarity.Only gravity TreBert
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 12:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <414cce0d-c0de-4c89-bb73-39740c44ff6a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544531 |
Odd asked > The Intelligence there has had 10^31 > times as long &Where did you get that number, John?& That is the ratio of diameter of a galaxy to an atom
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 15:32 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n7170m$ga2$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #544534 |
On 1/11/2016 2:47 PM, john wrote: > Odd asked >> The Intelligence there has had 10^31 >> times as long > > &Where did you get that number, John?& > > That is the ratio of diameter of a > galaxy to an atom > And why does that set the scale between God and humans? Why not the ratio of an elephant to a bacterium? Why not the ratio of the earth to a star? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 13:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1057a675-486c-42af-9a14-cb4c5c1c39fd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544550 |
Odd asked: "And why does that set the scale between God and humans? Why not the ratio of an elephant to a bacterium? Why not the ratio of the earth to a star? " Because that is where the pattern repeats. It's the same note but one Universal octave higher or lower. It's the iteration of the fractal.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 15:56 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n718do$jja$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #544554 |
On 1/11/2016 3:43 PM, john wrote: > Odd asked: > "And why does that set the scale between God and humans? > > Why not the ratio of an elephant to a bacterium? > > Why not the ratio of the earth to a star? " > > Because that is where the pattern repeats. And you know this HOW? Where is there ANY evidence of repetition at that interval? > It's the same note but one Universal octave > higher or lower. It's the iteration of the fractal. > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 13:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c0ff85af-1dd5-4960-861a-c92737d82dff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544554 |
There are roughly 3X 10^7 seconds in a year. The galaxy takes roughly 2 X 10^8 years to rotate. Newly- measured value for electron periods are between 50 and 100 attoseconds- call it 100 attoseconds = 100 X 10^-18 seconds. So, it takes the galaxy 6 X 10^15 seconds and the atom 10^-16 seconds. How many times does 10^-16 go into 6 X 10^15? Looks pretty close to 10^31 to me.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 16:15 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n719h4$lru$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #544560 |
On 1/11/2016 3:58 PM, john wrote: > There are roughly 3X 10^7 seconds in a year. > The galaxy takes roughly 2 X 10^8 years to rotate. > Newly- measured value for electron periods > are between 50 and 100 attoseconds- call it > 100 attoseconds = 100 X 10^-18 seconds. > > So, it takes the galaxy 6 X 10^15 seconds > and the atom 10^-16 seconds. > How many times does 10^-16 go into 6 X 10^15? > > Looks pretty close to 10^31 to me. > Two points do not make a repeating pattern, John. If I find two things that are similar at a scale difference of 10^6, have I determined that there is a repeating pattern that repeats at every jump of 10^6? No. Now, if I find three things that are similar, where B is 10^6 bigger than A, and C is 10^6 bigger than B, now there MIGHT be some indication of repeating scale. Better would be if I found FOUR things that are similar, where B is 10^6 bigger than A, C is 10^6 bigger than B, and D is 10^6 bigger than C. But you don't have that, do you? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-01-11 22:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n719na$mqt$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #544560 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >So, it takes the galaxy 6 X 10^15 seconds >and the atom 10^-16 seconds. >How many times does 10^-16 go into 6 X 10^15? >Looks pretty close to 10^31 to me. Yeah, so what? Even ignoring that bogus electron period, first, galaxies don't rotate as a solid object, second, each of the bazillion galaxies has its own rate, and even if that ratio was correct, so what? Pi is somewhat close to 22/7 and it's much closer to 355/113, but does that make pi either of those values? No. They're just coincidental.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-12 08:48 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <36246803-e78d-40c8-a51e-260411f9c964@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #544569 |
There are no "solid " objects, Michael. Didn't you get the memo? The galaxy has a period: ~10^16 seconds The electron has a period: ~10^-16 seconds Difference: 10^32 The galaxy has a diameter: ~10^22 m The atom has a diameter:~10^-10m Difference: 10^32
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