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Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research

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  Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 09:10 -0600
    Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:22 -0800
      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 09:41 -0600
      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-12-19 16:42 +0000
    Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2015-12-19 16:56 -0800
      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 21:24 -0800
      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research chanB4 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-12-20 12:57 -0600
    Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 09:52 -0800
      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 17:31 -0800
        Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 19:33 -0600
          Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 12:06 -0800
            Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 07:03 -0800
    Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 04:54 -0500
      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 04:54 -0800
        Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 12:23 -0600
          Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 13:02 -0800
            Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 15:42 -0600
            Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 15:45 -0600
              Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 15:05 -0800
                Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 18:20 -0800
                  Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 21:21 -0600
                    Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 07:04 -0800
                      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 08:01 -0800
                      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 10:46 -0600
                      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 11:20 -0600
                        Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 09:30 -0800
                          Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 10:40 -0800
                            Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 12:57 -0600
                  Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 11:23 -0800
                Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 20:54 -0600
                  Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 11:32 -0800
                    Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 13:52 -0600
                      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2015-12-29 15:02 -0800
                      Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 10:01 -0800
                        Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 10:43 -0800
                          Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 10:59 -0800
                          hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 05:34 -0800
                            hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 06:41 -0800
                              hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 08:08 -0800
                                hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 08:26 -0800
                                  hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 08:40 -0800
                                    hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 10:26 -0800
                                      Re: hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 14:16 -0500
                                      hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 13:11 -0800
                                        hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 17:07 -0800
                                          Re: hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 20:48 -0500
                                          hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 01:25 -0800
                                            hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 04:23 -0800
                                              hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 14:08 -0800
                                                hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 16:23 -0800
                                                  hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 08:50 -0800
                                                    Re: hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 13:55 -0500
                                    Re: hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 13:32 -0500
                                Re: hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 13:30 -0500
                            Re: hVac is obsessed with Bert, like a fan girl. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 13:28 -0500
                            Re: hVac promotes Bert at every turn. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 18:52 -0500
                        Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2015-12-30 11:18 -0800
                        Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 15:08 -0600
                          Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 12:39 -0800
                            Re: Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 19:04 -0600
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#540252 — Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-19 09:10 -0600
SubjectBlack holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food crumbles into stars according to research
Message-ID<MZWdnbzFCZrA7ujLnZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food 
crumbles into stars according to research
> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-black-holes-large-billion-suns.html


> Black holes at the heart of galaxies could swell to 50 billion times
> the mass of the sun before losing the discs of gas they rely on to
> sustain themselves, according to research at the University of
> Leicester.
>
> In a study titled 'How Big Can a Black Hole Grow?', Professor Andrew
> King from the University of Leicester's Department of Physics and
> Astronomy explores supermassive black holes at the centre of
> galaxies, around which are regions of space where gas settles into an
> orbiting disc.
>
> This gas can lose energy and fall inwards, feeding the black hole.
> But these discs are known to be unstable and prone to crumbling into
> stars.
>
> Professor King calculated how big a black hole would have to be for
> its outer edge to keep a disc from forming, coming up with the figure
> of 50 billion solar masses.
>



   From the physics perspective, the only limit to black hole growth is
   the availability of something to fall in.  After that is is the VERY
   SLOW evaporation (~10^80 years) until they are all gone.

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#540255

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-19 07:22 -0800
Message-ID<a2d25b99-557c-421a-bf07-bbac94755486@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#540252
Absolute and total hogwash.
"Crumble into stars". Pffft!!
BHs don't come from gravitational collapse.
Modern Physics has NO IDEA how
Gravity works!! They still think they will
a. find Gravity waves
b find gravitons 
c  someday find their asses if they can
   get their right and left hands cooperating

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#540264

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-19 09:41 -0600
Message-ID<MZWdnbfFCZo05-jLnZ2dnUU7-eMAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#540255
On 12/19/15 9:22 AM, john wrote:
> BHs don't come from gravitational collapse.



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#540275

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-12-19 16:42 +0000
Message-ID<n541e9$ggh$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#540255
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Absolute and total hogwash.
>"Crumble into stars". Pffft!!

You may think it's stupid, yet you believe in much stupider crap such as
LeSage gravity, fractal universes and spinny things being the answer to 
everything short of World Peace.

Why????

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#540360

FromRaymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net>
Date2015-12-19 16:56 -0800
Message-ID<8349fdea-c83a-434a-9aff-55cdcd043bcd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#540252
On Saturday, 19 December 2015 10:10:24 UTC-5, Sam Wormley  wrote:
> > Black holes at the heart of galaxies could swell to 50 billion times
> > the mass of the sun before losing the discs of gas they rely on to
> > sustain themselves, according to research at the University of
> > Leicester.
> >
>

it is beautiful how nature shows simplicity of structure
and functionality in every process with striking similarities

how MatterEnergy and information can travel through black holes through
spacetime to form and/or feed quasars and galaxies like the umbilical cord 
of a mother to her child.

from the stem of a mushroom, or the eye of a tornado or a hurricane,
or the black center of an eye itself the elegance is seen all over the place 
with things that most people will take for granted

this are no coincidences. they represent proof of a common design
through out the universe and if we learn to understand it and use it 
it will help us improve our own way of life with a brighter consciousness 
a better future.

the awakening is truly really near (and that is also not a coincidence)
the time when all fields of science will add up to the quest
to the ultimate answer to everything

r.y

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#540388

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-19 21:24 -0800
Message-ID<129abd9f-3f1b-4ea2-be59-ae1de06d0f1c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#540360
Pftttt!!!

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#540452

FromchanB4 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-20 12:57 -0600
Message-ID<n56tm1$g3u$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#540360
On 12/19/2015 6:56 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
> On Saturday, 19 December 2015 10:10:24 UTC-5, Sam Wormley  wrote:
>>> Black holes at the heart of galaxies could swell to 50 billion times
>>> the mass of the sun before losing the discs of gas they rely on to
>>> sustain themselves, according to research at the University of
>>> Leicester.
>>>
>>
>
> it is beautiful how nature shows simplicity of structure
> and functionality in every process with striking similarities

similarities are human judgements

>
> how MatterEnergy and information can travel through black holes

nope.

> through
> spacetime to form and/or feed quasars and galaxies like the umbilical cord
> of a mother to her child.

what is similar there ?  not scale, shape, or process, or meaning,


>
> from the stem of a mushroom, or the eye of a tornado or a hurricane,
> or the black center of an eye itself

you talking about a black spot ?  (google black spot ) again no scale, 
no process, no meaning, just abstraction of shapes

> the elegance is seen all over the place
> with things that most people will take for granted

except to stoners

>
> this are no coincidences.

there are only coincidences.


> they represent proof of a common design
> through out the universe

no.  it only illistrates malfunctioning brain patterns that assigns 
strong relationship to simplistic shapes

> and if we learn to understand it and use it
> it will help us improve our own way of life with a brighter consciousness
> a better future.

so how is the Black Spot going to improve your brighter consciousness 
into a better future ? Are you going to buy round solar panels ?

>
> the awakening is truly really near (and that is also not a coincidence)
> the time when all fields of science will add up to the quest
> to the ultimate answer to everything

consult the Ascended Masters

https://thelightworkers.wordpress.com/tag/invoking-the-ascended-masters-and-higher-god/

>
> r.y
>
>

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#540445

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-20 09:52 -0800
Message-ID<7cd9b726-b164-4e88-836a-7cd1ec0c5930@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#540252
On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 7:10:24 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food 
> crumbles into stars according to research
> > http://phys.org/news/2015-12-black-holes-large-billion-suns.html
> 
> 
> > Black holes at the heart of galaxies could swell to 50 billion times
> > the mass of the sun before losing the discs of gas they rely on to
> > sustain themselves, according to research at the University of
> > Leicester.
> >
> > In a study titled 'How Big Can a Black Hole Grow?', Professor Andrew
> > King from the University of Leicester's Department of Physics and
> > Astronomy explores supermassive black holes at the centre of
> > galaxies, around which are regions of space where gas settles into an
> > orbiting disc.
> >
> > This gas can lose energy and fall inwards, feeding the black hole.
> > But these discs are known to be unstable and prone to crumbling into
> > stars.
> >
> > Professor King calculated how big a black hole would have to be for
> > its outer edge to keep a disc from forming, coming up with the figure
> > of 50 billion solar masses.
> >
> 
> 
> 
>    From the physics perspective, the only limit to black hole growth is
>    the availability of something to fall in.  After that is is the VERY
>    SLOW evaporation (~10^80 years) until they are all gone.
> 
> -- 
> 
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> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Make that 50 trillion Suns,and counting. Good reason for this thinking It fits with reality TreBert

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#541182

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-23 17:31 -0800
Message-ID<af006b04-bccb-43b9-bb6e-20d281d21fee@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#540445
On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 9:52:49 AM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 7:10:24 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food 
> > crumbles into stars according to research
> > > http://phys.org/news/2015-12-black-holes-large-billion-suns.html
> > 
> > 
> > > Black holes at the heart of galaxies could swell to 50 billion times
> > > the mass of the sun before losing the discs of gas they rely on to
> > > sustain themselves, according to research at the University of
> > > Leicester.
> > >
> > > In a study titled 'How Big Can a Black Hole Grow?', Professor Andrew
> > > King from the University of Leicester's Department of Physics and
> > > Astronomy explores supermassive black holes at the centre of
> > > galaxies, around which are regions of space where gas settles into an
> > > orbiting disc.
> > >
> > > This gas can lose energy and fall inwards, feeding the black hole.
> > > But these discs are known to be unstable and prone to crumbling into
> > > stars.
> > >
> > > Professor King calculated how big a black hole would have to be for
> > > its outer edge to keep a disc from forming, coming up with the figure
> > > of 50 billion solar masses.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >    From the physics perspective, the only limit to black hole growth is
> >    the availability of something to fall in.  After that is is the VERY
> >    SLOW evaporation (~10^80 years) until they are all gone.
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > community, and physics-related social issues.
> 
> Make that 50 trillion Suns,and counting. Good reason for this thinking It fits with reality TreBert

When a BB reaches its critical mass density it explodes before even one more electron can enter.Trebert.Good reason for this    

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#541183

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-23 19:33 -0600
Message-ID<fbOdnQThEJfT1ubLnZ2dnUU7-X-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#541182
On 12/23/15 7:31 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> When a BB reaches its critical mass density it explodes



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#541314

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-24 12:06 -0800
Message-ID<233de338-5578-4cda-a85b-775189cdb446@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541183
On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 5:33:05 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/23/15 7:31 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > When a BB reaches its critical mass density it explodes
> 
> 
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90 trillion microbes in our 30 tirllion body cells.That tells you nature deal in big numbers.BH can hold all there is,and not reach critical mass density till the last electron goes to its core. That is reality when I think of BH  TreBert

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#541786

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-27 07:03 -0800
Message-ID<95aeeeee-cb2f-4533-87a9-7ae325f6130d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541314
how quoted text -
90 trillion microbes in our 30 tirllion body cells.That tells you nature deal in big numbers.BH can hold all there is,and not reach critical mass density till the last electron goes to its core. That is reality when I think of BH  TreBert 
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I know I am just punishing myself for asking this question but.... Bert, if that were true, how can there be black holes of different masses?

With one simple question I laid waste to your foolish 'mass density' (cough) theory.

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#541764

FromYousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Date2015-12-27 04:54 -0500
Message-ID<r7mdnVnUSO-mKOLLnZ2dnUU7-dmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#540252
On 19/12/2015 10:10 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Black holes could grow as large as 50 billion suns before their food
> crumbles into stars according to research
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-black-holes-large-billion-suns.html
>
>> Black holes at the heart of galaxies could swell to 50 billion times
>> the mass of the sun before losing the discs of gas they rely on to
>> sustain themselves, according to research at the University of
>> Leicester.
>
>    From the physics perspective, the only limit to black hole growth is
>    the availability of something to fall in.  After that is is the VERY
>    SLOW evaporation (~10^80 years) until they are all gone.

Well, wasn't it only a few years ago that they said that blackholes 
couldn't get much larger than a 1 billion solar masses? Then they 
promptly discovered several 10 billion solar mass ones. Forgive if I 
don't buy this study. :)

	Yousuf Khan

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#541778

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-27 04:54 -0800
Message-ID<92f2c165-8dbe-4422-8f7a-9f018554ddc8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541764
They still talk about BHs with no spin.
BHs *are* spin.

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#541812

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-27 12:23 -0600
Message-ID<yoGdnT10cJIYsR3LnZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#541778
On 12/27/15 6:54 AM, john wrote:
> They still talk about BHs with no spin.
> BHs *are* spin.
>

   Most likely most black holes have non-zero angular momentum.
   But one can't say for sure until it is measured.

   Review | Black Holes
> http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/BlackHole.html



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#541997

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-28 13:02 -0800
Message-ID<0b048241-bfd7-4a8d-af1e-b61a77f38fc1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541812
On Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 10:23:04 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/27/15 6:54 AM, john wrote:
> > They still talk about BHs with no spin.
> > BHs *are* spin.
> >
> 
>    Most likely most black holes have non-zero angular momentum.
>    But one can't say for sure until it is measured.
> 
>    Review | Black Holes
> > http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/BlackHole.html
> 
> 
> 
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Sam WOW Reality is the accretion disk proves that BH have spin.Also not all BHs are exactly alike. They can become more dense as a certain mass density is reached.In the QM realm taking away space between particles  can be done by BH.O Ya Time too  TreBert

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#542006

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-28 15:42 -0600
Message-ID<hZadne3HkYojMRzLnZ2dnUU7-WsAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#541997
On 12/28/15 3:02 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Reality is the accretion disk proves that BH have spin.


   Water forms a vortex going down the drain, yet the drain is not
   spinning, reber.

   Black hole rotation is not a requirement for accretion disks to form.


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#542007

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-28 15:45 -0600
Message-ID<hZadnezHkYrtMBzLnZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#541997
On 12/28/15 3:02 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Reality is the accretion disk proves that BH have spin



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#542024

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-28 15:05 -0800
Message-ID<795b8d33-09b5-46ad-aaf7-509f01c310d6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#542007
On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 1:45:22 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/28/15 3:02 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > Reality is the accretion disk proves that BH have spin
> 
> 
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Reality is the disk gives away the BH.You can't get the picture.TreBert

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#542042

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-28 18:20 -0800
Message-ID<2228f389-74c0-4937-9a5a-5ccae6cdb042@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#542024
So-
Gravity produced by the matter crushes
that same matter so small that it
disappears.
A black hole.
21st century physics!!

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