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| Started by | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-10-27 16:19 -0500 |
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Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 16:19 -0500
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 14:26 -0700
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-10-27 21:21 +0000
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-27 22:00 +0000
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-27 18:14 -0500
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-27 18:15 -0500
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-10-27 17:21 -0700
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-28 17:50 -0500
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-28 23:08 +0000
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-28 19:15 -0500
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 09:46 -0700
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-29 17:15 +0000
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:27 -0400
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:16 -0700
Re: Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-28 07:15 -0500
| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 16:19 -0500 |
| Subject | Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? |
| Message-ID | <MeSdnRsDoo_td7LLnZ2dnUU7-UWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ > Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping > water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the > Sun’s energy—essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic > eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly > controversial and so far untested. > > But if anyone does try this ‘solar-radiation management’, then it may > be safer to use dusts of solid, nanometre-sized particles, suggests a > team of scientists from Harvard University in Cambridge, > Massachusetts. In a paper published in Atmospheric Chemistry and > Physics, they calculate that nanoparticles of diamond or alumina > (aluminium oxide) could be more effective and less environmentally > damaging than sulphates. And although diamond dust is expensive, it > is not completely out of the question, the researchers argue. > > “Our paper is really geared towards removing the mindset that it has > to be sulphate that’s used to do solar radiation management,” says > Debra Weisenstein, an atmospheric modelling expert at Harvard and one > of the study’s authors. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 14:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3e6eee6d-ce36-47ec-8fcf-ad53d8b4ad6f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #528570 |
On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 2:19:47 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ > > > Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping > > water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the > > Sun's energy--essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic > > eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly > > controversial and so far untested. > > > > But if anyone does try this 'solar-radiation management', then it may > > be safer to use dusts of solid, nanometre-sized particles, suggests a > > team of scientists from Harvard University in Cambridge, > > Massachusetts. In a paper published in Atmospheric Chemistry and > > Physics, they calculate that nanoparticles of diamond or alumina > > (aluminium oxide) could be more effective and less environmentally > > damaging than sulphates. And although diamond dust is expensive, it > > is not completely out of the question, the researchers argue. > > > > "Our paper is really geared towards removing the mindset that it has > > to be sulphate that's used to do solar radiation management," says > > Debra Weisenstein, an atmospheric modelling expert at Harvard and one > > of the study's authors. > > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues. Better to spray liquid oxygen.Its cooler and makes for easy breathing Get the picture. TreBert
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| From | R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 21:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0optk$qrb$1@odin.sdf-eu.org> |
| In reply to | #528570 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? >> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ >> Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping >> water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the >> Sun?s energy?essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic >> eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly >> controversial and so far untested. >> But if anyone does try this ?solar-radiation management?, then it may >> be safer to use dusts of solid, nanometre-sized particles, suggests a >> team of scientists from Harvard University in Cambridge, >> Massachusetts. In a paper published in Atmospheric Chemistry and >> Physics, they calculate that nanoparticles of diamond or alumina >> (aluminium oxide) could be more effective and less environmentally >> damaging than sulphates. And although diamond dust is expensive, it >> is not completely out of the question, the researchers argue. We just hope they pass this idea past some health experts before they fire up this frypan. >> ?Our paper is really geared towards removing the mindset that it has >> to be sulphate that?s used to do solar radiation management,? says >> Debra Weisenstein, an atmospheric modelling expert at Harvard and one >> of the study?s authors. -- Sun Safety - Nanoparticles - Sunscreen - Kidspot www.kidspot.com.au # Family Health # Healthy Living Aug 2, 2012 - Sunscreen shock: Just how safe is sunscreen for our kids? ... for improved safety testing of sunscreens for the presence of nanoparticles, i many ... Nanoparticles in medicine and environment: Inhalation and ... https://books.google.com.au/books?isbn=9048126320 J.C. Marijnissen, #Leon Gradon - 2009 - #Medical of. Nanoparticles. in. Children. Despite the harmful effects of environmental exposure to nanoparticles, there is beneficial potential in nanoparticles as a drug ...
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 22:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6p85gc-o68.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? Where is your discussion, or is cut and paste all you can do, spamming shit head? Would such be safe to breath, spamming shit head? Would you volunteer to breath it? Have you ever wondered what your life might have been like if you had the competence to do more than just copy the words of others, spamming piece of shit? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 18:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n0p0gc$270$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #528570 |
On 10/27/2015 4:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? >> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ >> > >> Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping >> water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the >> Sun’s energy—essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic >> eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly >> controversial and so far untested. we are already doing that with coal plants that generate electricity, they help cause Global Cooling. The sulfer is in the coal.
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 18:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n0p0i8$270$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #528606 |
On 10/27/2015 6:14 PM, gilber34 wrote: > On 10/27/2015 4:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? >>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ >>> >> >>> Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping >>> water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the >>> Sun’s energy—essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic >>> eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly >>> controversial and so far untested. > > > we are already doing that with coal plants that generate electricity, > they help cause Global Cooling. The sulfer is in the coal. > Poor Scientific American, infested with non-techenical contract writers.
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 17:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e5fbda97-aa29-411e-be07-4619f7ae590d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #528606 |
On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote: > On 10/27/2015 4:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > > Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? > >> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ > >> > > > >> Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping > >> water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the > >> Sun's energy--essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic > >> eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly > >> controversial and so far untested. > > > we are already doing that with coal plants that generate electricity, > they help cause Global Cooling. The sulfer is in the coal. And carbon is carbon, right? Double-A
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-28 17:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n0rjfe$k9b$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #528617 |
On 10/27/2015 7:21 PM, Double-A wrote: > On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote: >> On 10/27/2015 4:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: >>> Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? >>>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ >>>> >>> >>>> Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping >>>> water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the >>>> Sun's energy--essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic >>>> eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly >>>> controversial and so far untested. >> >> >> we are already doing that with coal plants that generate electricity, >> they help cause Global Cooling. The sulfer is in the coal. > > > And carbon is carbon, right? > > Double-A > seems like that is right, as you want something to reflect and scatter or adsorb, sending fine coal dust very high up into the stratosphere would shade the earth, and take years to come down. Cooling us all down a lot. and Coal Dust is Cheep.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-10-28 23:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n418gc-1mh.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #528815 |
gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote: > On 10/27/2015 7:21 PM, Double-A wrote: >> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote: >>> On 10/27/2015 4:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: >>>> Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? >>>>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping >>>>> water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the >>>>> Sun's energy--essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic >>>>> eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly >>>>> controversial and so far untested. >>> >>> >>> we are already doing that with coal plants that generate electricity, >>> they help cause Global Cooling. The sulfer is in the coal. >> >> >> And carbon is carbon, right? >> >> Double-A >> > > seems like that is right, as you want something to reflect and scatter > or adsorb, > > sending fine coal dust very high up into the stratosphere would shade > the earth, and take years to come down. Cooling us all down a lot. > and Coal Dust is Cheep. You still have to dig it up, finely grind it, and get it to the stratosphere. Simpler to give a fuel rebate to airlines if they run the engines slightly smoky. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-28 19:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n0roee$u8t$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #528820 |
On 10/28/2015 6:08 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> we are already doing that with coal plants that generate electricity, >>>> they help cause Global Cooling. The sulfer is in the coal. >>> >>> >>> And carbon is carbon, right? >>> >>> Double-A >>> >> seems like that is right, as you want something to reflect and scatter >> or adsorb, >> >> sending fine coal dust very high up into the stratosphere would shade >> the earth, and take years to come down. Cooling us all down a lot. >> and Coal Dust is Cheep. > > You still have to dig it up, finely grind it, and get it to the stratosphere. > > Simpler to give a fuel rebate to airlines if they run the engines slightly > smoky. > > > excellent solution, change those "chem trails" to "global cooling trails"
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-29 09:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a01bc127-d378-4396-abe9-7698346f0b4c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #528820 |
On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote: > > On 10/27/2015 7:21 PM, Double-A wrote: > >> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote: > >>> On 10/27/2015 4:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > >>>> Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? > >>>>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping > >>>>> water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the > >>>>> Sun's energy--essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic > >>>>> eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly > >>>>> controversial and so far untested. > >>> > >>> > >>> we are already doing that with coal plants that generate electricity, > >>> they help cause Global Cooling. The sulfer is in the coal. > >> > >> > >> And carbon is carbon, right? > >> > >> Double-A > >> > > > > seems like that is right, as you want something to reflect and scatter > > or adsorb, > > > > sending fine coal dust very high up into the stratosphere would shade > > the earth, and take years to come down. Cooling us all down a lot. > > and Coal Dust is Cheep. > > You still have to dig it up, finely grind it, and get it to the stratosphere. > > Simpler to give a fuel rebate to airlines if they run the engines slightly > smoky. > > > > -- > Jim Pennino It is cancer forming,and children are geting lung cancer from Progress Energy burning dirty coal. TreBert
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-10-29 17:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tp0agc-4do.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
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reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote: >> > On 10/27/2015 7:21 PM, Double-A wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote: >> >>> On 10/27/2015 4:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >>>> Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? >> >>>>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping >> >>>>> water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the >> >>>>> Sun's energy--essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic >> >>>>> eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly >> >>>>> controversial and so far untested. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> we are already doing that with coal plants that generate electricity, >> >>> they help cause Global Cooling. The sulfer is in the coal. >> >> >> >> >> >> And carbon is carbon, right? >> >> >> >> Double-A >> >> >> > >> > seems like that is right, as you want something to reflect and scatter >> > or adsorb, >> > >> > sending fine coal dust very high up into the stratosphere would shade >> > the earth, and take years to come down. Cooling us all down a lot. >> > and Coal Dust is Cheep. >> >> You still have to dig it up, finely grind it, and get it to the stratosphere. >> >> Simpler to give a fuel rebate to airlines if they run the engines slightly >> smoky. >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Pennino > > It is cancer forming,and children are geting lung cancer from Progress Energy burning dirty coal. TreBert Airplanes don't run on coal. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 23:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <igXXx.14358$nT2.1675@fx02.iad> |
| In reply to | #528570 |
On 10/27/2015 05:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth?
>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/
>>
>
>> Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping
>> water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the
>> Sun’s energy—essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic
>> eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly
>> controversial and so far untested.
>>
>> But if anyone does try this ‘solar-radiation management’, then it may
>> be safer to use dusts of solid, nanometre-sized particles, suggests a
>> team of scientists from Harvard University in Cambridge,
>> Massachusetts. In a paper published in Atmospheric Chemistry and
>> Physics, they calculate that nanoparticles of diamond or alumina
>> (aluminium oxide) could be more effective and less environmentally
>> damaging than sulphates. And although diamond dust is expensive, it
>> is not completely out of the question, the researchers argue.
>>
>> “Our paper is really geared towards removing the mindset that it has
>> to be sulphate that’s used to do solar radiation management,” says
>> Debra Weisenstein, an atmospheric modelling expert at Harvard and one
>> of the study’s authors.
>
Sammy, you warmballers aren't into geoengineering and neither is SCiAm.
They are just clown propagandists for politicians just like you are. The
idea is not to FIX any climate problem but rather to drain huge amounts
of money from civilization and return to feudalism.
Diamond dust! Bwahahahaha! What morons! I guess they couldn't think of
anything more expensive like unobtainium! Truth is MIT STUDENTS have
already solved the cooling problem with injections of cheap sulfur
compounds into the atmosphere. Oddly, these are the VERY chemicals that
the government regulations FORBID shoving into the air and fine
companies who do so! Coincidence? I think not.
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 23:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2f4a2681-1c62-4ab4-8bf0-f425b93453b1@googlegroups.com> |
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On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 11:19:47 PM UTC+2, Sam Wormley wrote: > Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-diamond-dust-sprayed-into-the-sky-cool-earth/ > > > Researchers have for years discussed the merits of pumping > > water-based sulphate spray into the sky to reflect and scatter the > > Sun's energy--essentially, mimicking the cooling caused by volcanic > > eruptions. Like most kinds of geoengineering, the idea is highly > > controversial and so far untested. > > > > But if anyone does try this 'solar-radiation management', then it may > > be safer to use dusts of solid, nanometre-sized particles, suggests a > > team of scientists from Harvard University in Cambridge, > > Massachusetts. In a paper published in Atmospheric Chemistry and > > Physics, they calculate that nanoparticles of diamond or alumina > > (aluminium oxide) could be more effective and less environmentally > > damaging than sulphates. And although diamond dust is expensive, it > > is not completely out of the question, the researchers argue. > > > > "Our paper is really geared towards removing the mindset that it has > > to be sulphate that's used to do solar radiation management," says > > Debra Weisenstein, an atmospheric modelling expert at Harvard and one > > of the study's authors. > > > -- =========================== idiots ============================
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-28 07:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n0qe82$qnt$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #528570 |
On 10/27/2015 4:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > Could Diamond Dust Sprayed into the Sky Cool Earth? > >> >> But if anyone does try this ‘solar-radiation management’, then it may >> be safer to use dusts of solid, nanometre-sized particles, suggests a >> team of scientists from Harvard University in Cambridge, >> Massachusetts. In a paper published in Atmospheric Chemistry and >> Physics, they calculate that nanoparticles of diamond or alumina >> (aluminium oxide) could be more effective and less environmentally >> damaging than sulphates. And although diamond dust is expensive, it >> is not completely out of the question, the researchers argue. yes, inhaling the dust of nanometer sized hard particles like diamond or alumina does wonders for the lungs of all creatures. I am sure the EPA already has rules for these kinds of harmful choking dusts, and open dispursion in popluated centers is considered an act of terrorism. there is a difference between "Dreaming up stuff" and Engineering, GOT IT ? why spend all that money on fouling the air, when we have over 100 million people starving, lacking shelter, sanatation, fresh water???? your going to lower the temp by 1/2 F and let 10 million children DIE. your researchers are unpaid, inexperienced,college students poor SciAM, infested with know-nothing contract journalists
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