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Two-electron units

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First post2015-09-07 21:06 -0700
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  Two-electron units john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 21:06 -0700
    Re: Two-electron units "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-07 22:21 -0700
      Re: Two-electron units john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 07:18 -0700
        Re: Two-electron units moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-08 14:26 +0000
          Re: Two-electron units john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 08:19 -0700
            Re: Two-electron units noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 19:19 -0700
    Re: Two-electron units "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 22:34 -0700
    Re: Two-electron units "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 15:47 -0700
      Re: Two-electron units john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 16:55 -0700
        Re: Two-electron units moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-11 01:15 +0000

#519696 — Two-electron units

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-07 21:06 -0700
SubjectTwo-electron units
Message-ID<4c99b38b-4269-4da7-a6bf-43f1060a07f6@googlegroups.com>
Once two electrons with the same
spin get next to each other in an atom,
they should become part of a
from-then-on inseparable two-electron
unit.

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#519701

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2015-09-07 22:21 -0700
Message-ID<mslr6b$762$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#519696
"john" <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:4c99b38b-4269-4da7-a6bf-43f1060a07f6@googlegroups.com...
> Once two electrons with the same
> spin get next to each other in an atom,
> they should become part of a
> from-then-on inseparable two-electron
> unit.
>
Check "Cooper pairs" so dubbed since 1956 

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#519738

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-08 07:18 -0700
Message-ID<90de79b7-5aeb-4017-9c3c-e84cb2c7473c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519701
Hanson
Cooper pairs, in my construction,
would be electrons of opposite
spin sharing an orbital 'sans nucleus'.

I'm talking about when electrons of
the same spin are forced by
circumstance to be neighbours.
Hmm. Why am I thinking that
neutrons are what does this?

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#519741

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-09-08 14:26 +0000
Message-ID<msmr6s$5dp$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#519738
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Hanson
>Cooper pairs, in my construction,
>would be electrons of opposite
>spin sharing an orbital 'sans nucleus'.

>I'm talking about when electrons of
>the same spin are forced by
>circumstance to be neighbours.

Quantum mechanics forbids two electrons from being in the same state.
Having opposite spin is sufficient to be in different states, so Cooper
pairs can exist.

>Hmm. Why am I thinking that
>neutrons are what does this?

Quantum mechanics forbids two neutrons from being in the same state as 
well.

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#519966

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-09 08:19 -0700
Message-ID<2f844900-c7ac-4117-bf6c-3669718d0caa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519741
If neighboring galactic arms have
opposite spin, they remain separate.
But if they have the same spin, they
would attract each other and merge.

So, building Galaxy/atoms one at a time,
and placing arms on the disc,
H is one arm of either spin. One arm.
He is one arm of each spin. Two arms.

But Li is one arm of one and
two arms of the other. Or vice versa.
So, no matter what, there will be two
alike arms as  neighbors, and they
will merge.

Therefore, there should be very few if
any three-armed galaxies.

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#520231

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-10 19:19 -0700
Message-ID<8d64043c-53b5-4602-b7c9-d55242255e31@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519966
that is not a theory, even if it is English [per se

> So, building Galaxy/atoms one at a time,
> and placing arms on the disc,
> H is one arm of either spin. One arm.
> He is one arm of each spin. Two arms.
> 
> But Li is one arm of one and
> two arms of the other. Or vice versa.
> So, no matter what, there will be two
> alike arms as  neighbors, and they
> will merge.
> 
> Therefore, there should be very few if
> any three-armed galaxies.

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#519702

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-07 22:34 -0700
Message-ID<d9782a26-1a7f-47d9-9077-2c3c21d1b9d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519696
On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 7:06:44 AM UTC+3, john wrote:
> Once two electrons with the same
> spin get next to each other in an atom,
> they should become part of a
> from-then-on inseparable two-electron
> unit.

================================
see the 
Y Porat Model -an abstract

you would see there many examples in which

 2   electrons combine  in a way 
(and here comes the (historic ) innovation "
THEY COMBINE  **AT THEIR EDGES** --**PERPENDICULAR TO EACH OTHER 

so may be that is the secret how they can combine
though having the negative   charge !!!

old historic  copyright
Eng Yehiel Porat 
===========================================
========================================

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#520186

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-10 15:47 -0700
Message-ID<c804de4d-2107-4cac-8d99-38415767f795@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519696
On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 9:06:44 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Once two electrons with the same
> spin get next to each other in an atom,
> they should become part of a
> from-then-on inseparable two-electron
> unit.

Two spiral galaxy merging can create arms rotating in opposite directions.Someday we will detect two black holes revolving around each other with the same reasoning. TreBert

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#520203

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-10 16:55 -0700
Message-ID<85c62cc7-5940-4ca1-8d74-b615b0236646@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#520186
Anti-cyclones diverge, Bert.

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#520221

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-09-11 01:15 +0000
Message-ID<mst9vc$5a6$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#520203
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>> Two spiral galaxy merging can create arms rotating in opposite 
>> directions.Someday we will detect two black holes revolving around each 
>> other with the same reasoning. TreBert

>Anti-cyclones diverge, Bert.

They've found galaxies with counter-rotating stars.

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