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WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality

Started by"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
First post2015-09-06 18:38 -0500
Last post2015-09-07 17:43 -0500
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  WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality  "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-06 18:38 -0500
    Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-07 00:38 +0000
    Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-07 02:28 +0000
      Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael proved he is cartoon blind) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-06 22:25 -0500
        Re: Rocky lies some more jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-07 05:57 +0000
        Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael proved he is cartoon blind) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-08 00:48 +0000
          Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael proved he is cartoon blind) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-07 20:15 -0500
            Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael proved he is cartoon blind) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-08 02:42 +0000
              Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael proved he is still cartoon blind) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-07 22:23 -0500
                Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael proved he is still cartoon blind) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-08 16:46 +0000
                  Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael facing: global collapse then ensued) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-08 12:24 -0500
                    Re: Rocky still deluded jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-08 18:08 +0000
                    Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael facing: global collapse then ensued) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-09 06:41 +0200
                    Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael facing: global collapse then ensued) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-09 17:32 +0000
                      Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael facing: global collapse then ensued) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-09 17:20 -0500
                        Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael facing: global collapse then ensued) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-10 03:07 +0000
                  Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael runs from the same issue NIST ran from) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-08 12:39 -0500
              Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael proved he is cartoon blind) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-08 06:41 +0200
                Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael proved he is cartoon blind) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-09 06:11 +0200
          Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael proved he is cartoon blind) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 03:57 -0500
    Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 06:11 -0500
      Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (K proves he can not recognize where debris came from) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-07 08:52 -0500
        Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (K proves he can not recognize where debris came from) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-07 18:11 +0000
          Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael fails to address certain issues) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-07 15:20 -0500
            Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael fails to address certain issues) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-08 01:06 +0000
              Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael fails to address certain issues again) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-07 20:46 -0500
          Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (2 Michael a better desc) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-07 16:59 -0500
        Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (K proves he can not recognize where debris came from) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 17:43 -0500

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#519513

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-07 06:11 -0500
Message-ID<u4squads506oik647rjjc8gs9l5t3m2ugu@4ax.com>
In reply to#519432
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:38:26 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>I've used the video in this post before to see if someone was Cartoon 
>Physics blind or not.
>
>A person that is blind to Cartoon Physics will not see any differences 
>between the NIST Cartoon of WTC7 and real life.  <G>
>
>Go ahead and take the test if you dare.
>

     It's very obvious you lack even a high school level of
understanding in the field of physics.

>WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuyZJl9YleY


     Note that the real life footage starts AFTER the penthouse
collapsed while the NIST video includes it. 

>
>First, I'll tell  you what you did not see and that is how WTC7 destroyed 
>Fiterman Hall and yet the destruction of Fiterman Hall was blamed on WTC7 as 
>proven by wikipedia where wikipedia states this about Fiterman Hall:

     Only you could be so delusional as to use a wiki as an
authoritative source.

>
>"It was heavily damaged during the September 11 attacks in 2001, when debris 
>from the collapse of 7 WTC compromised the structure. It became unsafe to 
>occupy due to mold growth and asbestos exposure. Because traditional 
>demolition would result in an unacceptable environmental impact, the 
>building was scheduled for deconstruction and decontamination as part of the 
>Lower Manhattan redevelopment project"
>
>Now what did you see besides a total lack of debris that jumped across the 
>street to destroy Fiterman Hall?  <G>

     But there was debris that hit Fiterman Hall. Your mental
defect(s) can demand there wasn't, but the truth will not change as a
result.

>
>The truth is what really destroyed Fiterman Hall was the radiation from the 
>underground nuke used to level WTC7.

     I await your valid, verifiable evidence of this. Since you've
helped to prove no nukes were used, you'll have a hard time. 

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#519534 — Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (K proves he can not recognize where debris came from)

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-07 08:52 -0500
SubjectRe: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (K proves he can not recognize where debris came from)
Message-ID<mvqdnavg4LAgC3DInZ2dnUU7-c2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519513
"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:u4squads506oik647rjjc8gs9l5t3m2ugu@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:38:26 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>
< snip >
>>Now what did you see besides a total lack of debris that jumped across the
>>street to destroy Fiterman Hall?  <G>
>
>     But there was debris that hit Fiterman Hall. Your mental
> defect(s) can demand there wasn't, but the truth will not change as a
> result.

ROTFLMAO  Once again you prove you will fall for words before you take a 
look at the evidence yourself.

Let me help you out.  Look at what WTC7 was made of and look at what 
Fiterman Hall was made of.  Now where does it look like the debris on top of 
Fiterman Hall came from?  <G>

Yep it came from Fiterman Hall itself because the nuke under WTC7 also hit 
Fiterman Hall.

Rocky 

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#519605 — Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (K proves he can not recognize where debris came from)

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-09-07 18:11 +0000
SubjectRe: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (K proves he can not recognize where debris came from)
Message-ID<mskjvu$mhf$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#519534
"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:

>"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:u4squads506oik647rjjc8gs9l5t3m2ugu@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:38:26 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>< snip >
>>>Now what did you see besides a total lack of debris that jumped across the
>>>street to destroy Fiterman Hall?  <G>
>>
>>     But there was debris that hit Fiterman Hall. Your mental
>> defect(s) can demand there wasn't, but the truth will not change as a
>> result.

>ROTFLMAO  Once again you prove you will fall for words before you take a 
>look at the evidence yourself.

Aerial view of the site.  
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/WTC_Area_With_Building_Numbers_50dpi.png
Notice the chunk of WTC7 and smaller debris in the street right by the
damaged part of Fiterman Hall.  (very top center of image).  Either it was
this piece that damaged Fiterman Hall or other pieces that are not really
visible after falling into the building.

WTC7 didn't completely fall down into its own footprint as the kooks
try to mislead you into believing.

Fiterman hall had to be decontaminated because it was left exposed to the
elements while they bickered over what to do about it, and nasty black
mold grew all over everything.  It was also loaded with asbestos.

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#519620 — Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael fails to address certain issues)

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-07 15:20 -0500
SubjectRe: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael fails to address certain issues)
Message-ID<tbidnXQahs9KbHDInZ2dnUU7-KOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519605
"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
news:mskjvu$mhf$1@pcls7.std.com...
> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>
>>"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:u4squads506oik647rjjc8gs9l5t3m2ugu@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:38:26 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>< snip >
>>>>Now what did you see besides a total lack of debris that jumped across 
>>>>the
>>>>street to destroy Fiterman Hall?  <G>
>>>
>>>     But there was debris that hit Fiterman Hall. Your mental
>>> defect(s) can demand there wasn't, but the truth will not change as a
>>> result.
>
>>ROTFLMAO  Once again you prove you will fall for words before you take a
>>look at the evidence yourself.
>
> Aerial view of the site.
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/WTC_Area_With_Building_Numbers_50dpi.png
> Notice the chunk of WTC7 and smaller debris in the street right by the
> damaged part of Fiterman Hall.  (very top center of image).  Either it was
> this piece that damaged Fiterman Hall or other pieces that are not really
> visible after falling into the building.
>
> WTC7 didn't completely fall down into its own footprint as the kooks
> try to mislead you into believing.
>
> Fiterman hall had to be decontaminated because it was left exposed to the
> elements while they bickered over what to do about it, and nasty black
> mold grew all over everything.  It was also loaded with asbestos.

ROTFLMAO because that was pretty funny since you forgot to say anything 
about the speed at which WTC7 hit the bricks because it was freefall speed 
for 100 feet and things like that don't just happen in real life.

EMERGENCY WARNING FOR OFFICE WORKERS (NIST WTC7)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7U22m9xLrQ

There is an interesting video about the pre-collapse of WTC7 that might tell 
us the ground shook before it came down.  Check out:

Building 7 - Sound Evidence for Explosions (10 min)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlRmaUCE8sM

But maybe they felt the ground shake too from a nuclear controlled 
demolition.  Too bad David Chandler, the person narrating the above video 
never even suspected a Nuclear Controlled Demolition because all that did 
was get heads spinning around.

------------------------------------

I found the following interesting too.  It is by the person behind the 
"Nuclear Controlled Demolition" facts and he is addressing the "mini-nukes" 
theory that was started by James Fetzer and another person.

BTW James originally put Dimitri down but would end up praising Dimitri for 
his good work.  And I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact 
Dimitri's Nuclear Controlled Demolition explains what was left of every 
building at Ground Zero and Fiterman Hall where the mini-nuke theory by 
James Fetzer did not consider the damage done to WTC3, WTC4 or Fiterman 
Hall.

"Some thoughts on the mini-nukes theory in regard to the nuclear demolition 
of the World Trade Center."  (link at bottom of post)

By the way - Mr. Silverstein's abovementioned interview was so widely 
circulated on various websites, in books and in videos, that even if now 
someone would at last try to quash any further distribution of his 
unprecedented confession, it would be simply too late. Everybody who is 
familiar with elementary logic has gotten the point already: the WTC-7 was 
demolished with the prior permission of Larry Silverstein.

Coming back to the suspected nuclear stuff involved: the WTC-7 had been 
apparently demolished in the same pattern and by exactly the same kind of a 
nuclear explosion - exactly as the WTC Twin Towers.

The WTC-7 had been also first reduced to "unexplainable" fine dust and then 
had fallen strictly down - right onto its footprint with free fall speed, 
while also spreading large clouds of that "unexplainable fine dust" all 
around Manhattan.

There were exactly the same streams of radioactive vapors emanating from the 
debris of the WTC 7, as well as those emanating from the debris of the WTC-1 
and WTC-2. There were the same "unexplainable" high temperatures - recorded 
weeks and months later under the debris of the WTC-7 (as well as high 
temperatures at the spots of the WTC-1 and WTC-2).

Firefighters had been ordered to use exactly the same radioactivity 
deterrents (transparently named "powerful ultra-violet absorbers") to mix 
into their water - to be used to extinguish at last those very 
"unexplainable underground fires, the most long-lasting in history" - under 
the debris of WTC 7 - as well as they had been ordered to do so in regards 
to the debris of the WTC-1 and WTC-2.

Thus, if someone seriously believes that both WTC-1 and -2 had been 
demolished by the "mini-nukes", he must automatically come to the very same 
conclusion in regard to the WTC-7. There was technically no difference - 
either in an actual pattern of the WTC-7 collapse or in any features from 
its nuclear demolition, like the unexplainable "underground fires", 
unexplainable "high-temperatures", and streams of those radioactive vapors 
emanating from the WTC-7 demolition site for many weeks.

Now here is pure logic: if the two supposed "mini-nukes" that had allegedly 
demolished WTC-1 and -2 indeed belonged to Osama bin Laden or to Saddam 
Hussein (or to both), then the third "mini-nuke", which has leveled the 
WTC-7, must also have been the property of Osama bin Laden or of Saddam 
Hussein. Do you agree with this logic?

Based on this presumption, we may further conclude that Mr. Silverstein - 
when he actually permitted or ordered to "pull" the WTC-7, had indeed 
permitted or ordered nothing less than to set off the third "mini-nuke" 
provided by Osama bin Laden or by Saddam Hussein. Didn't he?

Or it is also quite possible that the third alleged "mini-nuke" belonged to 
Mr. Silverstein himself (it is indeed very much possible, at least from the 
point of logic, and, logically thinking, we would have to presume so).

Logically, there would be just only a few possible combinations in regard to 
who exactly owned those three "mini-nukes" (if there were indeed any) that 
might have been used to level the WTC buildings No.1, No.2 and No.7 
respectively:

=======================================

Rocky

 http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/02/thoughts-on-mini-nukes-theory-in-regard-to-nuclear-demolition-of-the-world-trade-center/

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#519671 — Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael fails to address certain issues)

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-09-08 01:06 +0000
SubjectRe: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael fails to address certain issues)
Message-ID<mslcb6$jsi$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#519620
"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:

>> Aerial view of the site.
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/WTC_Area_With_Building_Numbers_50dpi.png
>> Notice the chunk of WTC7 and smaller debris in the street right by the
>> damaged part of Fiterman Hall.  (very top center of image).  Either it was
>> this piece that damaged Fiterman Hall or other pieces that are not really
>> visible after falling into the building.
>>
>> WTC7 didn't completely fall down into its own footprint as the kooks
>> try to mislead you into believing.
>>
>> Fiterman hall had to be decontaminated because it was left exposed to the
>> elements while they bickered over what to do about it, and nasty black
>> mold grew all over everything.  It was also loaded with asbestos.

>ROTFLMAO because that was pretty funny since you forgot to say anything 
>about the speed at which WTC7 hit the bricks because it was freefall speed 
>for 100 feet and things like that don't just happen in real life.

Once again we're not talking about the collapse speed of the curtain wall.
We're talking about how part of WTC7 fell across the street, damaging
Fiterman Hall. Don't change the subject.

<snip kookbabble>

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#519676 — Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael fails to address certain issues again)

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-07 20:46 -0500
SubjectRe: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (Michael fails to address certain issues again)
Message-ID<lpOdndF0k-jFoHPInZ2dnUU7-KOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519671
"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
news:mslcb6$jsi$3@pcls7.std.com...
> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>
>>> Aerial view of the site.
>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/WTC_Area_With_Building_Numbers_50dpi.png
>>> Notice the chunk of WTC7 and smaller debris in the street right by the
>>> damaged part of Fiterman Hall.  (very top center of image).  Either it 
>>> was
>>> this piece that damaged Fiterman Hall or other pieces that are not 
>>> really
>>> visible after falling into the building.
>>>
>>> WTC7 didn't completely fall down into its own footprint as the kooks
>>> try to mislead you into believing.
>>>
>>> Fiterman hall had to be decontaminated because it was left exposed to 
>>> the
>>> elements while they bickered over what to do about it, and nasty black
>>> mold grew all over everything.  It was also loaded with asbestos.
>
>>ROTFLMAO because that was pretty funny since you forgot to say anything
>>about the speed at which WTC7 hit the bricks because it was freefall speed
>>for 100 feet and things like that don't just happen in real life.
>
> Once again we're not talking about the collapse speed of the curtain wall.
> We're talking about how part of WTC7 fell across the street, damaging
> Fiterman Hall. Don't change the subject.
>
> <snip kookbabble>

ROTFLMAO because I'm not the one that had you believing that there were real 
commercial jets in Nuke York City on 9/11/01.

Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE
( indexed to start at 13:34 )
https://youtu.be/p1D1C94eE8U?t=13m34s

Rocky 

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#519630 — Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (2 Michael a better desc)

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-07 16:59 -0500
SubjectRe: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (2 Michael a better desc)
Message-ID<rtidnRIA5_6AlXPInZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519605
"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
news:mskjvu$mhf$1@pcls7.std.com...
> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>
>>"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:u4squads506oik647rjjc8gs9l5t3m2ugu@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:38:26 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>< snip >
>>>>Now what did you see besides a total lack of debris that jumped across 
>>>>the
>>>>street to destroy Fiterman Hall?  <G>
>>>
>>>     But there was debris that hit Fiterman Hall. Your mental
>>> defect(s) can demand there wasn't, but the truth will not change as a
>>> result.
>
>>ROTFLMAO  Once again you prove you will fall for words before you take a
>>look at the evidence yourself.
>
> Aerial view of the site.
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/WTC_Area_With_Building_Numbers_50dpi.png
> Notice the chunk of WTC7 and smaller debris in the street right by the
> damaged part of Fiterman Hall.  (very top center of image).  Either it was
> this piece that damaged Fiterman Hall or other pieces that are not really
> visible after falling into the building.
>
> WTC7 didn't completely fall down into its own footprint as the kooks
> try to mislead you into believing.
>
> Fiterman hall had to be decontaminated because it was left exposed to the
> elements while they bickered over what to do about it, and nasty black
> mold grew all over everything.  It was also loaded with asbestos.

Now let me show you what I think happened to WTC7  (indexed to start at 
2:27:07)
  http://youtu.be/Lec9giab90I?t=2h27m7s

Rocky

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#519642 — Re: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (K proves he can not recognize where debris came from)

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-07 17:43 -0500
SubjectRe: WTC 7 NIST Cartoon vs. Reality (K proves he can not recognize where debris came from)
Message-ID<7o4suadccn6bjb6hil5kckrgmjg08ll0kj@4ax.com>
In reply to#519534
On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 08:52:07 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:u4squads506oik647rjjc8gs9l5t3m2ugu@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:38:26 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>< snip >
>>>Now what did you see besides a total lack of debris that jumped across the
>>>street to destroy Fiterman Hall?  <G>
>>
>>     But there was debris that hit Fiterman Hall. Your mental
>> defect(s) can demand there wasn't, but the truth will not change as a
>> result.
>
>ROTFLMAO  Once again you prove you will fall for words before you take a 
>look at the evidence yourself.
>

     I've looked at the evidence.

>Let me help you out.  Look at what WTC7 was made of and look at what 
>Fiterman Hall was made of.  Now where does it look like the debris on top of 
>Fiterman Hall came from?  <G>

     It looks like it came from the twin towers and #7.

>
>Yep it came from Fiterman Hall itself because the nuke under WTC7 also hit 
>Fiterman Hall.

     There was no nuke. You've helped to prove this.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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