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| First post | 2015-08-26 15:50 -0500 |
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Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 15:50 -0500
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-27 16:52 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 19:07 -0500
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 22:22 -0400
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-01 21:57 -0500
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 15:25 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-01 15:44 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 14:46 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-03 15:24 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:55 -0700
Glazier's Hole in his Brain is Fantastically Insane "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-03 17:11 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 18:15 -0500
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-04 16:53 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:22 -0500
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 18:11 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 06:52 -0400
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 12:19 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-05 12:53 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-05 13:04 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 12:37 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-06 13:06 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-06 14:40 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 15:36 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 20:23 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 00:23 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-04 10:30 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:15 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:56 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:35 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:39 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 12:30 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-05 13:58 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 17:02 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 14:49 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-03 15:27 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2015-09-04 07:21 -0700
Re: Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 10:29 -0400
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 15:50 -0500 |
| Subject | Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane |
| Message-ID | <zs6dnYBwB7U3u0PInZ2dnUU7-aGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane > http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898 > Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction, > but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to > Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe. > > That’s the celebrated physicist’s latest answer to the so-called > “information paradox” — the conundrum that black holes appear to > swallow matter, which, according to the laws of quantum mechanics, is > totally batshit insane and not possible. At a public lecture in > Stockholm this week, Hawking offered these comforting words to any > would-be deep space travelers: “If you feel you are in a black hole, > don’t give up. There’s a way out.” -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 16:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <92275319-a5ca-400a-b19d-a72b10aa4bed@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #517110 |
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:50:59 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane > > http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898 > > > > Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction, > > but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to > > Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe. Isn't he now contradicting what he said just a few years ago? Could Alzheimers finally be setting in? Double-A
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 19:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <VrqdnSt8H9PHO0LInZ2dnUU7-bmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #517339 |
On 8/27/15 6:52 PM, Double-A wrote: > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:50:59 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane >>> http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898 >> >> >>> Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction, >>> but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to >>> Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe. > > > Isn't he now contradicting what he said just a few years ago? Could Alzheimers finally be setting in? > > Double-A > > > Without any observational or experimental data... it's hard for the theorists to come to a conclusion with no way to test the ideas. Many have "changed their minds" on this issue of information and BHs. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 22:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <gBPDx.6011$wH.420@fx10.iad> |
| In reply to | #517342 |
On 08/27/2015 08:07 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/27/15 6:52 PM, Double-A wrote:
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:50:59 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane
>>>> http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898
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>>>> Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction,
>>>> but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to
>>>> Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe.
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>> Isn't he now contradicting what he said just a few years ago? Could
>> Alzheimers finally be setting in?
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>> Double-A
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> Without any observational or experimental data... it's hard for the
> theorists to come to a conclusion with no way to test the ideas. Many
> have "changed their minds" on this issue of information and BHs.
>
Hawking is clearly a Kook! He is bat-shit insane! Just ask HVAC and his
clique. I'll bet Hawking believes in ESP and Ghosts like HVAC, that is
why HVAC knows he's insane. The only diference is Hawking uses his real
name, while anonymous pussy HVAC uses a made up name. He's a coward and
a spook.
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| From | gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-01 21:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ms5oj6$ft9$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #517342 |
On 8/27/2015 7:07 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 8/27/15 6:52 PM, Double-A wrote: >> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:50:59 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: >>> Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane >>>> http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898 >>>> >>> >>> >>>> Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction, >>>> but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to >>>> Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe. >> >> >> Isn't he now contradicting what he said just a few years ago? Could >> Alzheimers finally be setting in? >> >> Double-A >> >> >> > > > Without any observational or experimental data... it's hard for the > theorists to come to a conclusion with no way to test the ideas. Many > have "changed their minds" on this issue of information and BHs. no, they do the math. it isn't making stuff up, like your Fat Ass in a Cube.
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-01 15:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <35d8c075-f402-4e32-ba33-079224c60d35@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #517339 |
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 4:52:56 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:50:59 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > > Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane > > > http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898 > > > > > > > Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction, > > > but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to > > > Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe. > > > Isn't he now contradicting what he said just a few years ago? Could Alzheimers finally be setting in? > > Double-A AA I think Pemrose has a lot to say,and helps Hawking all he can.Hawking's name to fame is his books sell great.He uses no math. His life made a good movie,and had great acting. Hawking said and I agree "Black holes can come in any size." TreBert
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-01 15:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <07c72e6d-5f50-4cda-8603-b721949ae940@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #518451 |
On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 3:25:52 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 4:52:56 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:50:59 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane > > > > http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898 > > > > > > > > > > Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction, > > > > but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to > > > > Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe. > > > > > > Isn't he now contradicting what he said just a few years ago? Could Alzheimers finally be setting in? > > > > Double-A > > AA I think Pemrose has a lot to say,and helps Hawking all he can.Hawking's name to fame is his books sell great.He uses no math. His life made a good movie,and had great acting. Hawking said and I agree "Black holes can come in any size." TreBert And Hawking make a great guest appearance on Startreck! Double-A
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 14:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a5331859-2f06-41c9-b6a6-2becd9ac3d48@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #518454 |
On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 3:44:23 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 3:25:52 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 4:52:56 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:50:59 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane > > > > > http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction, > > > > > but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to > > > > > Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe. > > > > > > > > > Isn't he now contradicting what he said just a few years ago? Could Alzheimers finally be setting in? > > > > > > Double-A > > > > AA I think Pemrose has a lot to say,and helps Hawking all he can.Hawking's name to fame is his books sell great.He uses no math. His life made a good movie,and had great acting. Hawking said and I agree "Black holes can come in any size." TreBert > > > And Hawking make a great guest appearance on Startreck! > > Double-A AA Back is how I see a BH. They will never be grey.Neutron star's great force of gravity pushes electrons into the atoms core.BHs are 3 times stronger and nothing can get back out the event horizon.I see even quarks pushed together with gravity's compression force.I'm seeing Planck density.Great weight in tiny area.I see the atoms of gold like tiny black holes.Electrons a million time as heavy here on Earth. Black holes not only have no hair they have no dandruff.Trebert
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 15:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e9a05e0b-1ce5-46d4-b697-4f17a540a243@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #518770 |
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 2:46:24 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 3:44:23 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 3:25:52 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 4:52:56 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:50:59 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > > Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane > > > > > > http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction, > > > > > > but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to > > > > > > Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't he now contradicting what he said just a few years ago? Could Alzheimers finally be setting in? > > > > > > > > Double-A > > > > > > AA I think Pemrose has a lot to say,and helps Hawking all he can.Hawking's name to fame is his books sell great.He uses no math. His life made a good movie,and had great acting. Hawking said and I agree "Black holes can come in any size." TreBert > > > > > > And Hawking make a great guest appearance on Startreck! > > > > Double-A > > AA Back is how I see a BH. They will never be grey.Neutron star's great force of gravity pushes electrons into the atoms core.BHs are 3 times stronger and nothing can get back out the event horizon.I see even quarks pushed together with gravity's compression force.I'm seeing Planck density.Great weight in tiny area.I see the atoms of gold like tiny black holes.Electrons a million time as heavy here on Earth. Black holes not only have no hair they have no dandruff.Trebert Are you saying that Hawking's Hawking Radiation Theory is a little flaky? Double-A
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 15:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5dab780b-e4a3-4bae-bacb-b8ec2f3e2d19@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #518785 |
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 3:24:47 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 2:46:24 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 3:44:23 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 3:25:52 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 4:52:56 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:50:59 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > > > Stephen Hawking's New Theory on Black Holes is Fantastically Insane > > > > > > > http://gizmodo.com/stephen-hawkings-new-theory-on-black-holes-is-fantastic-1726513898 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Black holes have a rap for being hopeless vortexes of destruction, > > > > > > > but what would really happen if you fell into one? According to > > > > > > > Stephen Hawking, you might end up in another universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't he now contradicting what he said just a few years ago? Could Alzheimers finally be setting in? > > > > > > > > > > Double-A > > > > > > > > AA I think Pemrose has a lot to say,and helps Hawking all he can.Hawking's name to fame is his books sell great.He uses no math. His life made a good movie,and had great acting. Hawking said and I agree "Black holes can come in any size." TreBert > > > > > > > > > And Hawking make a great guest appearance on Startreck! > > > > > > Double-A > > > > AA Back is how I see a BH. They will never be grey.Neutron star's great force of gravity pushes electrons into the atoms core.BHs are 3 times stronger and nothing can get back out the event horizon.I see even quarks pushed together with gravity's compression force.I'm seeing Planck density.Great weight in tiny area.I see the atoms of gold like tiny black holes.Electrons a million time as heavy here on Earth. Black holes not only have no hair they have no dandruff.Trebert > > > Are you saying that Hawking's Hawking Radiation Theory is a little flaky? > > Double-A AA Yes and flacky fits with dandruff.Neutron stars are grey.Dwarf stars are white,brown,and red. When a dwarf star becomes a black hole it will be a time for humankind to say."Good Night" TreBert
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 17:11 -0700 |
| Subject | Glazier's Hole in his Brain is Fantastically Insane |
| Message-ID | <msanh8$622$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #518798 |
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> the tTihief, Cretin & Swine Galzier "reber g=emc^2" wrote: <Mercifully snipped Glazier's Gutter physics & his Glazierola save the following>: Swine Glazier is flacky fits with dandruff it will be time to say."Good Night" TreBert Mt.Baldy needs snow. Its streams are dry. I have to go back up.Reason everyone wants Baldy lucky nuggets. I get 10% of their lotto winnings O ya Bert > hanson wrote rote: Glazier you lunatic Swine, here is some help to improve your odds of getting "nuggets". A recruit from my organization's Law Enforcement Academy, her being a avid hiker, said that you should drive North on Hway 39, up into the San Gabriels. > ~ 5 miles up, turn right and go over the bridge, an drive to the end of the EAST fork where you can park your Van. You are now at the North-West Drainge slope of Mt. Baldy. > Then follow the rail to the "bridge to nowhere" (BTN). On the way to the BTN you'll see lot of old GOLD mining shafts. *** Be careful not to fall into one! ***. --- In the Riverbed you'll find **plenty** of pretty semi-precious Gemstones. > The best. part is that this section may not be designated Nat. Park Lland, and you can hawl out whatever you want, without you being a Thief that you habitually are. Good luck.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 18:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <uLqdnWS-mI47SXXInZ2dnUU7-SWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #518785 |
On 9/3/15 5:24 PM, Double-A wrote: > Are you saying that Hawking's Hawking Radiation Theory is a little flaky? > > Double-A If BHs obey the laws of physics, like everything else in the universe, then BHs have temperature and radiate. Hawking radiation (based on quantum mechanics) provides a mechanism which satisfies the laws of thermodynamics. Jacob Bekenstein, Physicist Who Revolutionized Theory of Black Holes, Dies at 68 > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/science/space/jacob-bekenstein-physicist-who-revolutionized-theory-of-black-holes-dies-at-68.html > Jacob Bekenstein, a physicist who prevailed in an argument with > Stephen Hawking that revolutionized the study of black holes, and > indeed the nature of space-time itself, died on Sunday in Helsinki, > Finland, where he was to give a physics lecture. He was 68. > > The cause was a heart attack, said the Hebrew University of > Jerusalem, where Dr. Bekenstein was the Michael Polak professor > emeritus of theoretical physics. > > Dr. Bekenstein’s greatest achievement came in the early 1970s, when > he was a graduate student at Princeton and got into a feud with Dr. > Hawking, the celebrated physicist and expert on black holes. > > Black holes are the prima donnas of Einstein’s general theory of > relativity, which predicts that space wraps itself completely around > some object, causing it to disappear as a black hole. Dr. Bekenstein > suggested in his Ph.D. thesis that the black hole’s entropy, a > measure of the disorder or wasted energy in a system, was > proportional to the area of a black hole’s event horizon, the > spherical surface in space from which there is no return. According > to accepted physical laws, including Dr. Hawking’s own work, neither > entropy nor the area of a black hole could ever decrease. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 16:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <074d3d36-13ee-486a-84fc-da68237e0ab1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #518803 |
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 9/3/15 5:24 PM, Double-A wrote: > > Are you saying that Hawking's Hawking Radiation Theory is a little flaky? > > > > Double-A > > If BHs obey the laws of physics, like everything else in the > universe, then BHs have temperature and radiate. Hawking radiation > (based on quantum mechanics) provides a mechanism which satisfies > the laws of thermodynamics. But Black Holes are like nothing else in the universe! Double-A
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 19:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <l-2dne64sKVRqHfInZ2dnUU7-a8AAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #518993 |
On 9/4/15 6:53 PM, Double-A wrote: > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: >> On 9/3/15 5:24 PM, Double-A wrote: >>> Are you saying that Hawking's Hawking Radiation Theory is a little flaky? >>> >>> Double-A >> >> If BHs obey the laws of physics, like everything else in the >> universe, then BHs have temperature and radiate. Hawking radiation >> (based on quantum mechanics) provides a mechanism which satisfies >> the laws of thermodynamics. > > > But Black Holes are like nothing else in the universe! > > Double-A > This can be said of neutrinos, photons and trebert. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 18:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ea52f763-6dd4-4c74-884f-bb0f3053bcfe@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #519011 |
Black Holes, in the sense of atomic nuclei and galactic nuclei, are permanent standing waves. They were not, nor was anything like them, ever created by a bunch of stars squishing themselves. THAT understanding of Black Holes is entirely fictional, illogical BS
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-05 06:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <msehe6$5bj$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #518993 |
On 9/4/2015 7:53 PM, Double-A wrote: > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: >> On 9/3/15 5:24 PM, Double-A wrote: >>> Are you saying that Hawking's Hawking Radiation Theory is a little flaky? >>> >>> Double-A >> >> If BHs obey the laws of physics, like everything else in the >> universe, then BHs have temperature and radiate. Hawking radiation >> (based on quantum mechanics) provides a mechanism which satisfies >> the laws of thermodynamics. > > > But Black Holes are like nothing else in the universe! Stop attributing magical properties to black holes. They are simply collapsed stars and they follow the same rules of physics as every other object in the universe does. -- "Are we going to fight or are we going to stand around all day?" https://goo.gl/TU0Xr6
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-05 12:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c9d00d7f-72ad-4d0a-afb7-c5bbf33cd9af@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #518803 |
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 9/3/15 5:24 PM, Double-A wrote: > > Are you saying that Hawking's Hawking Radiation Theory is a little flaky? > > > > Double-A > > If BHs obey the laws of physics, like everything else in the > universe, then BHs have temperature and radiate. Hawking radiation > (based on quantum mechanics) provides a mechanism which satisfies > the laws of thermodynamics. > > Jacob Bekenstein, Physicist Who Revolutionized Theory of Black Holes, > Dies at 68 > > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/science/space/jacob-bekenstein-physicist-who-revolutionized-theory-of-black-holes-dies-at-68.html > > > Jacob Bekenstein, a physicist who prevailed in an argument with > > Stephen Hawking that revolutionized the study of black holes, and > > indeed the nature of space-time itself, died on Sunday in Helsinki, > > Finland, where he was to give a physics lecture. He was 68. > > > > The cause was a heart attack, said the Hebrew University of > > Jerusalem, where Dr. Bekenstein was the Michael Polak professor > > emeritus of theoretical physics. > > > > Dr. Bekenstein's greatest achievement came in the early 1970s, when > > he was a graduate student at Princeton and got into a feud with Dr. > > Hawking, the celebrated physicist and expert on black holes. > > > > Black holes are the prima donnas of Einstein's general theory of > > relativity, which predicts that space wraps itself completely around > > some object, causing it to disappear as a black hole. Dr. Bekenstein > > suggested in his Ph.D. thesis that the black hole's entropy, a > > measure of the disorder or wasted energy in a system, was > > proportional to the area of a black hole's event horizon, the > > spherical surface in space from which there is no return. According > > to accepted physical laws, including Dr. Hawking's own work, neither > > entropy nor the area of a black hole could ever decrease. > > > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues. Sam BH obey not classical macro thinking.Stuff going into a BH is reduced to particles.No elements No molecules. That is good micro thinking.QM is a theory just about particles. Good reasoning tells us why. TreBert
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-05 12:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <msfh5l$c7m$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #519128 |
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Swine Galzier "reber g=emc^2" wrote that he, Cretin Glazier, has good micro thinking. TreBert -- LOL!!!
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-05 13:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f4b7cd4a-f645-46f4-8867-ae2f013bb77d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #519128 |
On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 12:20:01 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 9/3/15 5:24 PM, Double-A wrote: > > > Are you saying that Hawking's Hawking Radiation Theory is a little flaky? > > > > > > Double-A > > > > If BHs obey the laws of physics, like everything else in the > > universe, then BHs have temperature and radiate. Hawking radiation > > (based on quantum mechanics) provides a mechanism which satisfies > > the laws of thermodynamics. > > > > Jacob Bekenstein, Physicist Who Revolutionized Theory of Black Holes, > > Dies at 68 > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/science/space/jacob-bekenstein-physicist-who-revolutionized-theory-of-black-holes-dies-at-68.html > > > > > Jacob Bekenstein, a physicist who prevailed in an argument with > > > Stephen Hawking that revolutionized the study of black holes, and > > > indeed the nature of space-time itself, died on Sunday in Helsinki, > > > Finland, where he was to give a physics lecture. He was 68. > > > > > > The cause was a heart attack, said the Hebrew University of > > > Jerusalem, where Dr. Bekenstein was the Michael Polak professor > > > emeritus of theoretical physics. > > > > > > Dr. Bekenstein's greatest achievement came in the early 1970s, when > > > he was a graduate student at Princeton and got into a feud with Dr. > > > Hawking, the celebrated physicist and expert on black holes. > > > > > > Black holes are the prima donnas of Einstein's general theory of > > > relativity, which predicts that space wraps itself completely around > > > some object, causing it to disappear as a black hole. Dr. Bekenstein > > > suggested in his Ph.D. thesis that the black hole's entropy, a > > > measure of the disorder or wasted energy in a system, was > > > proportional to the area of a black hole's event horizon, the > > > spherical surface in space from which there is no return. According > > > to accepted physical laws, including Dr. Hawking's own work, neither > > > entropy nor the area of a black hole could ever decrease. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > > community, and physics-related social issues. > > Sam BH obey not classical macro thinking.Stuff going into a BH is reduced to particles.No elements No molecules. That is good micro thinking.QM is a theory just about particles. Good reasoning tells us why. TreBert A black hole is a suspension of time. Unlike a neutron star, or a quark star, there is no need for stuff to be reduced to particle, or quark soup. The density of a black hole the size of the solar system not be near great enough to require that. Double-A
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 12:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1e105461-b880-4b46-8234-3a8a9aa15bcc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #519143 |
On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 1:04:42 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 12:20:01 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > On 9/3/15 5:24 PM, Double-A wrote: > > > > Are you saying that Hawking's Hawking Radiation Theory is a little flaky? > > > > > > > > Double-A > > > > > > If BHs obey the laws of physics, like everything else in the > > > universe, then BHs have temperature and radiate. Hawking radiation > > > (based on quantum mechanics) provides a mechanism which satisfies > > > the laws of thermodynamics. > > > > > > Jacob Bekenstein, Physicist Who Revolutionized Theory of Black Holes, > > > Dies at 68 > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/science/space/jacob-bekenstein-physicist-who-revolutionized-theory-of-black-holes-dies-at-68.html > > > > > > > Jacob Bekenstein, a physicist who prevailed in an argument with > > > > Stephen Hawking that revolutionized the study of black holes, and > > > > indeed the nature of space-time itself, died on Sunday in Helsinki, > > > > Finland, where he was to give a physics lecture. He was 68. > > > > > > > > The cause was a heart attack, said the Hebrew University of > > > > Jerusalem, where Dr. Bekenstein was the Michael Polak professor > > > > emeritus of theoretical physics. > > > > > > > > Dr. Bekenstein's greatest achievement came in the early 1970s, when > > > > he was a graduate student at Princeton and got into a feud with Dr. > > > > Hawking, the celebrated physicist and expert on black holes. > > > > > > > > Black holes are the prima donnas of Einstein's general theory of > > > > relativity, which predicts that space wraps itself completely around > > > > some object, causing it to disappear as a black hole. Dr. Bekenstein > > > > suggested in his Ph.D. thesis that the black hole's entropy, a > > > > measure of the disorder or wasted energy in a system, was > > > > proportional to the area of a black hole's event horizon, the > > > > spherical surface in space from which there is no return. According > > > > to accepted physical laws, including Dr. Hawking's own work, neither > > > > entropy nor the area of a black hole could ever decrease. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > > > community, and physics-related social issues. > > > > Sam BH obey not classical macro thinking.Stuff going into a BH is reduced to particles.No elements No molecules. That is good micro thinking.QM is a theory just about particles. Good reasoning tells us why. TreBert > > > A black hole is a suspension of time. Unlike a neutron star, or a quark star, there is no need for stuff to be reduced to particle, or quark soup. The density of a black hole the size of the solar system not be near great enough to require that. > > Double-A AA I relate Hawking's physical condition worse than Reeves(superman) Yet Reeve's brain gave up the fight for life.I'm surprised that Hawking has not gone into a comerIt was costing Reeves 1 million a year.When my late wife Ruth went into the Tandem nursing home it coat $914 a week out of our savings,and Rick Scott who owned Tandem billed medicare $70,000 each year.In all GOPer Rick Scott stole 1.7 billion.He had 50 hearings.Took the 5th 75 times.Did he go to jail? NO He spent $200,000,000 and is the governor of Florida. He is a Severn Trent Avatar Mafia big gun. I feel safe in Calif. Rick Scott could be the dark horse.He is the GOP Godfather's favorite son.Its him or another Bush. Trumps hair might catch fire. Bert
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