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Opinion: Time of useful consciousness

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2015-08-06 10:07 -0500
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  Opinion: Time of useful consciousness Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 10:07 -0500
    Re: Opinion: Time of useful consciousness gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-06 10:22 -0500
    Re: Opinion: Time of useful consciousness HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:29 -0400

#511576 — Opinion: Time of useful consciousness

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-06 10:07 -0500
SubjectOpinion: Time of useful consciousness
Message-ID<-PidnWVQPeer5V7InZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Opinion: Time of useful consciousness
> http://phys.org/news/2015-08-opinion-consciousness.html

> Pilots know that there is a brief window of time between losing
> oxygen and passing out, a period in which some life-saving action is
> possible. *With climate change, we are at that moment now* . As climate
> destabilisation gathers pace, balanced democratic decision-making in
> many countries will become more difficult, and short-term palliatives
> will prevail over more rational long-term mitigation strategies.

> This country has spent most of the last twenty-five years dithering
> on climate change. Inaction poses an increasing risk to New Zealand's
> reputation. We are lagging behind in action and in planning to
> address climate change, and this is being noticed by our
> international partners. In advance of the UN climate summit in Paris
> this December, New Zealand has proposed a weak mitigation offer that
> has rightly been dismissed as 'inadequate' by Climate Action Tracker,
> a highly credible group of European policy analysts.

> Now, with Mr Obama's latest clean power plan, the pressure on all
> countries to act is ratcheting up.

> A reputation as a good international citizen carries weight. I know
> from personal experience in helping to negotiate the Kyoto Protocol,
> some years ago, that New Zealand can be effective in encouraging
> other nations to act in the common interest. The recent publication
> of a global soft power index in The Economist shows New Zealand
> scoring well on the 'ability to coax and persuade'—we are not
> irrelevant when it comes to diplomacy, or in our capacity to act as a
> global conscience.


   With climate change, we are at that moment now.

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Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-06 10:22 -0500
Message-ID<mpvu4g$1oh$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511576
On 8/6/2015 10:07 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Opinion: Time of useful consciousness
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-08-opinion-consciousness.html
>

>> Now, with Mr Obama's latest clean power plan, the pressure on all
>> countries to act is ratcheting up.
>

His ill founded plan does not consider cost.

The US Supreme court has decided that the EPA MUST consider cost of any 
and all implementation.



>    With climate change, we are at that moment now.


no, there is no real urgency at all, only manufactured political urgancy 
to pass huge new taxes on all energy.

Like the Iran Deal, Obama says Pass My Deal, or it is WAR.  Bullshit.

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FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-06 12:29 -0400
Message-ID<mq01tu$h82$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511576
On 8/6/2015 11:07 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Opinion: Time of useful consciousness
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-08-opinion-consciousness.html
>
>> Pilots know that there is a brief window of time between losing
>> oxygen and passing out, a period in which some life-saving action is
>> possible. *With climate change, we are at that moment now* .


Horrible analogy. Apples v Oranges.

Here in the USA I think we are doing a really good job of cleaning up 
our act. Rivers that once were polluted to the point where they were 
unable to sustain the life they had for tens of thousands of years are 
now fresh. Cities that once had air as bad as that in Beijing are now
quite breathable. The work isn't over and it will probably never be 
over...But we are on the right road. Don't give in to hysteria. Just 
keep plugging away.

We need 50 new nuclear power plants over the next 20 years.


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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