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| First post | 2015-07-29 12:55 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-08-02 16:44 -0500 |
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Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 12:55 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-30 15:01 +0000
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 14:23 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Enomis Skating <anomis.edenomis@libero.it> - 2015-08-02 23:38 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 06:53 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 16:06 +0200
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:13 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 14:18 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 16:58 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 16:10 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 07:39 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:33 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:41 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:38 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:36 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:11 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:24 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:35 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:50 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:05 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:04 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:22 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:52 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 09:32 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:37 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:21 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 13:35 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 13:29 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 17:13 -0500
curvature of Universe manifest; time is not a dimesnion per se noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:06 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Enomis Skating <anomis.edenomis@libero.it> - 2015-08-05 22:59 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:32 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 09:36 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:51 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:51 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 10:22 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 08:34 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:17 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 14:35 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 14:51 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 17:22 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 16:47 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:38 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 06:27 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 08:49 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 10:11 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 12:47 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 14:40 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:56 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 04:59 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 11:23 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 15:33 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 14:23 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 12:36 -0700
"de- noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 15:45 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 09:00 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 10:17 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 09:54 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:55 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 11:38 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:49 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 18:27 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:41 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 05:50 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 09:16 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:41 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:38 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 10:52 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-11 14:49 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 14:51 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 05:30 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 07:56 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 16:28 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 18:21 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:15 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 08:55 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 15:30 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 15:28 -0500
from there noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 13:21 -0700
to noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 10:16 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 17:20 -0500
mister Franz (sp.? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:10 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:42 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 09:34 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Enomis Skating <anomis.edenomis@libero.it> - 2015-08-06 07:56 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 08:16 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 10:39 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:30 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:15 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:26 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:49 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-10 19:20 +0000
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 12:50 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 15:53 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 14:46 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 17:27 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 15:55 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-10 23:15 +0000
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 18:40 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 22:07 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:53 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:12 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 09:00 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:22 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 09:33 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:44 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 10:22 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 09:53 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:05 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 11:19 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:25 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 11:42 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:54 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 12:29 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 15:05 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:24 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 15:32 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:55 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 17:15 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 15:40 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:55 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:31 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 10:41 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 09:10 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 11:27 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 11:04 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-12 18:26 +0000
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 13:28 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 12:49 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:35 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 14:58 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 16:18 -0700
:=4 noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 16:58 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:57 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 05:32 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-11 15:13 +0000
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:47 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-11 15:04 +0000
ratio, aspect noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 12:23 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 20:35 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 19:00 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 05:25 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-01 21:02 +0000
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 06:50 -0400
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 14:05 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Enomis Skating <anomis.edenomis@libero.it> - 2015-08-02 02:28 -0700
zene o'Ben noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 14:14 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 17:01 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-01 22:48 +0000
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Enomis Skating <anomis.edenomis@libero.it> - 2015-08-02 02:21 -0700
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:57 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:59 -0500
Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:44 -0500
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 20:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7219a7a9-e6e4-4892-9285-337339ba112f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511495 |
Lovely
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 20:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ef8d1257-dd20-42b1-b9a4-0acacbfbe6a0@googlegroups.com> |
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Odd Really Electrons that don't move. Making an alien out of joints from the butcher and strawberry jam, and then dissecting it in front of a senior surgeon, and he says it looks real. Really, really, really. Weak
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 06:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mpve67$50e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #511511 |
On 8/5/2015 11:22 PM, john wrote: > Odd > Really > Electrons that don't move. > Making an alien out of joints from > the butcher and strawberry jam, and > then dissecting it in front of a senior > surgeon, and he says it looks real. > Really, really, really. > Weak > John, congratulations on going back onto your meds! Suggest that you discuss with your doctor these side effects as evidenced by your disjointed post. Good luck! -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 09:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mpvr69$pvu$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #511511 |
On 8/5/2015 10:22 PM, john wrote: > Odd > Really > Electrons that don't move. I did not say that they do not move. Please reread what I said. I said electrons have kinetic energy, and kinetic energy is the energy of motion. However, velocity is not a well-defined, measurable parameter for a bound-state electron. I know this is hard to absorb, that a parameter that makes intuitive sense at a macroscopic scale just doesn't apply the same way inside the atom. Saying that velocity is not a well-defined, measurable parameter for a bound state electron does NOT mean that it doesn't move, does NOT mean that it changes direction, does NOT mean that it goes from stationary to moving, does NOT mean that it is accelerating. > Making an alien out of joints from > the butcher and strawberry jam, and > then dissecting it in front of a senior > surgeon, and he says it looks real. There was no senior surgeon in the movie. All of the players in that movie were paid actors, according to the creator of the movie. I don't know where you ever got the idea that this "alien autopsy" was ever done live in front of a surgical expert. > Really, really, really. > Weak > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 12:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mq02cf$j66$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #511566 |
On 8/6/2015 10:32 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> Making an alien out of joints from >> the butcher and strawberry jam, and >> then dissecting it in front of a senior >> surgeon, and he says it looks real. > > There was no senior surgeon in the movie. All of the players in that > movie were paid actors, according to the creator of the movie. > > I don't know where you ever got the idea that this "alien autopsy" was > ever done live in front of a surgical expert. John's beliefs are similar to BJ's. It's what I have termed the 'Kook Standard Model'. Aliens, ghosts, ESP are all good. Relativity is bad. The 9/11 conspiracy? Good. Curved space/time? Bad. It's all just a part of the pattern. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 12:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mq052f$j4q$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #511601 |
On 8/6/2015 11:37 AM, HVAC wrote: > On 8/6/2015 10:32 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> >>> Making an alien out of joints from >>> the butcher and strawberry jam, and >>> then dissecting it in front of a senior >>> surgeon, and he says it looks real. >> >> There was no senior surgeon in the movie. All of the players in that >> movie were paid actors, according to the creator of the movie. >> >> I don't know where you ever got the idea that this "alien autopsy" was >> ever done live in front of a surgical expert. > > > John's beliefs are similar to BJ's. It's what I have termed the 'Kook > Standard Model'. Aliens, ghosts, ESP are all good. Relativity is bad. > The 9/11 conspiracy? Good. Curved space/time? Bad. > > It's all just a part of the pattern. > > And that pattern is what con artists take advantage of. There's JUST ENOUGH people like John and Benj that someone with a "cold fusion battery" or a "telepathic antenna" or a "faster-than-light cable" can sell to them, make a little money, and then disappear. Meanwhile, those that bought into it (John, Benj, etc.) will tell you up and down and sideways that what they bought really does work, but that somehow it's been defeated by a government program to make it appear that it doesn't. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 13:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mq05om$1ad$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #511611 |
On 8/6/2015 1:21 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> John's beliefs are similar to BJ's. It's what I have termed the 'Kook >> Standard Model'. Aliens, ghosts, ESP are all good. Relativity is bad. >> The 9/11 conspiracy? Good. Curved space/time? Bad. >> >> It's all just a part of the pattern. >> >> > > And that pattern is what con artists take advantage of. There's JUST > ENOUGH people like John and Benj that someone with a "cold fusion > battery" or a "telepathic antenna" or a "faster-than-light cable" can > sell to them, make a little money, and then disappear. Meanwhile, those > that bought into it (John, Benj, etc.) will tell you up and down and > sideways that what they bought really does work, but that somehow it's > been defeated by a government program to make it appear that it doesn't. So true! A kook like BJ or John would rather die than admit he was just another gullible sucker. Another part of the Kook Standard Model is that 'Tesla is god'. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 13:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fe935464-e55e-4f86-aef2-f7254c92fa28@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511611 |
Odd Didn't "buy into it". Just "on the waiting list". Gummint is determining if it is safe. That should only take 10 or 20 years
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 17:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mq0m73$1q7$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #511645 |
On 8/6/2015 3:29 PM, john wrote: > Odd > Didn't "buy into it". > Just "on the waiting list". > Gummint is determining if it is safe. > That should only take 10 or 20 years > Yeah, well, let's see if they can squeeze a "hold commitment" money order out of you when they start telling you that they are now just one step away from approval. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 11:06 -0700 |
| Subject | curvature of Universe manifest; time is not a dimesnion per se |
| Message-ID | <ee79489a-c3b1-4b71-aaed-698210484c6a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511601 |
Dick CheneY made me do that, for nothing. as for space, its manefest curvature was dyscivered by Aristarchus, and triangulated with Gauss's theodolite > The 9/11 conspiracy? Good. Curved space/time? Bad. > > It's all just a part of the pattern. > > > -- > Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. > HAIL HYDRA! > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | Enomis Skating <anomis.edenomis@libero.it> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 22:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <baa513cd-fa12-423a-8307-d548f8f8112e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511495 |
Il giorno giovedì 6 agosto 2015 03:05:42 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin ha scritto: > On 8/5/2015 5:50 PM, john wrote: > > So > > Odd > > Your "point particles". > > Electrons > > Do they move and change direction? > > > > They have kinetic energy, which is the energy of motion. > They don't change direction. That would be an acceleration. Um, they also have angular momentum, the orbital one, besides that of spin. A p orbital is one that has l = 1. > -- > Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables regards Angelo
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 06:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5e9369eb-fc90-4347-87f7-fb9b09ff73d8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511522 |
Odd Electrons have a period of between 50 and 150 attoseconds. Say 100. Observed. The diameter of a Carbon atom is 10^-9 meters. To make one trip around the atom- assume Pi = 3 : 3 X 10^-9 meters/ 100 X 10^-18 seconds = 30 X 10^6 meters/ second. Lightspeed is 300 X 10^6 m/s The electron is doing at least 10% of the speed of light, Odd. Probably more, because it isn't a simple circle
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 09:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mpvrd1$pvu$3@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #511552 |
On 8/6/2015 8:32 AM, john wrote: > Odd > Electrons have a period of between > 50 and 150 attoseconds. Say 100. > Observed. > The diameter of a Carbon atom is > 10^-9 meters. > To make one trip around the atom- > assume Pi = 3 : Bad assumption. They aren't going around in little circles, John. Not even close to that. > 3 X 10^-9 meters/ 100 X 10^-18 seconds = > 30 X 10^6 meters/ second. > Lightspeed is 300 X 10^6 m/s > > The electron is doing at least 10% of > the speed of light, Odd. Probably > more, because it isn't a simple > circle > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 07:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9e4bbf4b-55e6-4d9d-8e2c-5119d68adcea@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511570 |
On 8/6/2015 8:32 AM, john wrote: > Odd > Electrons have a period of between > 50 and 150 attoseconds. Say 100. > Observed. > The diameter of a Carbon atom is > 10^-9 meters. > To make one trip around the atom- > assume Pi = 3 : Odd said "Bad assumption. They aren't going around in little circles, John. Not even close to that. " What, then, Odd? When the electron is measured to be available for bonding every 100 attoseconds, what cycle is happening?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 07:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ba13dc70-1306-43b1-9d35-702db60d3532@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511570 |
On 8/6/2015 8:32 AM, john wrote: > Odd > Electrons have a period of between > 50 and 150 attoseconds. Say 100. > Observed. > The diameter of a Carbon atom is > 10^-9 meters. > To make one trip around the atom- > assume Pi = 3 : Odd said "Bad assumption. They aren't going around in little circles, John. Not even close to that. " What, then, Odd? When the electron is measured to be available for bonding every 100 attoseconds, what cycle is happening?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 10:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mpvu2v$1mb$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #511574 |
On 8/6/2015 9:51 AM, john wrote: > On 8/6/2015 8:32 AM, john wrote: >> Odd >> Electrons have a period of between >> 50 and 150 attoseconds. Say 100. >> Observed. >> The diameter of a Carbon atom is >> 10^-9 meters. >> To make one trip around the atom- >> assume Pi = 3 : > Odd said > > "Bad assumption. They aren't going around in little circles, John. > Not even close to that. " > > What, then, Odd? > When the electron is measured to be > available for bonding every 100 attoseconds, > what cycle is happening? > That's where a quantum mechanical description helps, John. You should read up on it. What it ISN'T is some classical motion traveling over closed curved path. You just have to let that go at this scale. Things just don't move that way at this scale. Even at our scale, the motion over a closed curved path is only an approximation that our eyes are used to. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 08:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <91dc6774-9eab-47f5-bcc2-4d3a1bc3ad9d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511579 |
Well, SOMETHING is being measured to return every 10^-16 seconds. And the Galaxy is 10^32 times bigger than a Carbon atom. And the Galaxy turns every 10^16 seconds. Just saying
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 12:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mq04qf$ig3$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #511582 |
On 8/6/2015 10:34 AM, john wrote: > Well, SOMETHING is being measured > to return every 10^-16 seconds. Oh, yes, the quantum mechanical state has a time periodicity. This doesn't mean that something is moving from one location to another location and coming back with that time period. (I'm aware that's what you can IMAGINE, but as has been pointed out, your imagination is pretty dang limited by your everyday experience.) > And the Galaxy is 10^32 times bigger > than a Carbon atom. > And the Galaxy turns every 10^16 seconds. > Just saying > Numerology can convince you of a lot of crazy things. Let me just suggest something to you, John. The measured period of the carbon atom is the same for every carbon atom. But you've compared it to the measured period of just ONE galaxy -- ours. But maybe you haven't considered the periods of OTHER galaxies. Remember we are only one of trillions of galaxies. You may be interested to learn that the period of other galaxies, even of the same radius as ours, is not the same as the Milky Way's. And so while your numerological coincidence seems to be interesting for this one case, it sure doesn't look like a law that applies for galaxies and atoms in general. Likewise, you're scaling the measured periodicity of the carbon atom. But OTHER atoms have periodicities that differ from carbon's by a factor of 10 or so. So if you compared any other atom to even our galaxy, your scaling coincidence would break down again. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 14:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <240d7fa0-e3c7-4a43-8918-192a77f14d52@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511610 |
Odd "Numerology can convince you of a lot of crazy things. " And on goes the search for the Higgs 135!! A bump!
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 14:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d336322a-ff2c-45d0-a9c3-83e41a5bfe18@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511659 |
Odd You're maybe on to something. The electrons don't move at all. It is the whole system that is turning once every time it precessed twice, so the electrons are periodically available in that way. Okay, now?
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