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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-07-27 07:28 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-08-19 09:12 -0700 |
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'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 07:28 -0700
'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 18:16 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 07:17 -0400
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 15:18 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-29 02:22 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-10 21:18 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:51 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 15:58 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-11 01:04 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:49 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:26 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 08:31 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 09:41 -0400
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:51 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:44 -0400
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 11:00 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-11 18:44 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 08:51 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:17 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 10:45 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 09:50 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 10:01 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 08:10 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-13 13:44 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-10 21:28 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 14:35 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-10 23:31 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-13 15:22 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-13 14:43 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-13 19:39 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-13 18:06 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-13 20:23 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-13 19:37 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 00:39 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 15:38 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 16:25 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 17:15 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 17:31 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-16 16:09 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' [OT] Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 18:47 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:38 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 11:09 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 12:40 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 16:17 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 16:46 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:42 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 11:21 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 12:58 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 16:19 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 16:49 +0200
light is magneto-electrical noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 19:10 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 13:49 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-13 20:50 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 14:03 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 00:43 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 17:53 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 09:34 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 08:05 -0400
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:36 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 16:00 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 16:22 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 16:30 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 16:56 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:17 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 11:26 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 13:01 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:14 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 10:43 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 13:07 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 16:21 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 17:07 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-11 01:03 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-10 23:40 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-13 13:41 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-13 14:54 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 08:13 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:46 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 09:48 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:00 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 13:45 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-13 16:01 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 07:07 -0400
Re: 'Dark Matter' noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 10:39 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-13 20:29 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-13 19:14 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' Felipe Delgado <fd@spreadspectrum.org> - 2015-08-13 19:28 +0000
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-15 15:38 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 12:23 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 16:04 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 16:32 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 16:33 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 17:02 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 19:24 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:31 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 22:16 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 22:38 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:45 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 22:32 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 22:57 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 23:22 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 23:34 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 23:38 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 07:43 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 08:07 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 21:40 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 22:35 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 23:36 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 23:50 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 07:56 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:48 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-13 13:41 +0200
Re: 'Dark Matter' "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 13:27 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 14:42 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 14:01 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 20:21 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 01:26 -0400
Re: 'Dark Matter' HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:07 -0400
Re: 'Dark Matter' Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:05 -0500
Re: 'Dark Matter' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:04 -0700
Re: 'Dark Matter' HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 19:14 -0400
Re: 'Dark Matter' "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 09:12 -0700
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-27 07:28 -0700 |
| Subject | 'Dark Matter' |
| Message-ID | <bc8f51f6-28d1-44d6-8f08-283dd834ffb3@googlegroups.com> |
Dark matter is simply the next fractal layer below us (size-wise)in the galaxy/atom iteration. Each of its atoms are 10^-40m. We cannot see them, but they do have gravitational effects. As do the layers below. Galaxies are atoms. http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/BenzeneE.GIF
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-27 18:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ea207c5c-a3cb-4fcd-833d-3c3d3bbf8fdc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #509836 |
So. Dark matter is just like our matter, but 31 orders of magnitude smaller. We can't see it. But we can feel it gravitationally. It, however, does not feel us gravitationally
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-28 07:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mp7o99$gr8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #509954 |
On 7/27/2015 9:16 PM, john wrote: > So. > Dark matter is just like our matter, but > 31 orders of magnitude smaller. > We can't see it. > But we can feel it gravitationally. > It, however, does not feel us gravitationally Utter and complete rubbish from John the child molester -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-28 15:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2f76fb02-f23f-4bf2-b6d1-0034340e9ce7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #509954 |
Whether or not the photon hits me, the sun is the same.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2015-07-29 02:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mp9dcc$oof$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #510105 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Whether or not the photon hits me, the >sun is the same. No, the sun isn't quite the same. The sun lost a little mass-energy by emitting the photon (E=hf). Your eyeball gained that energy by absorbing it. The sun recoiled slightly by emitting the photon (p=hf/c). You were thrown ever so slightly backwards by the photon's momentum when your eyeball absorbed it.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 21:18 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1457970.BsSg34WjJe@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #509954 |
Odd Bodkin wrote:
> […] When that photon left the sun, the sun also recoiled a little in the
> opposite direction.
Your other ideas aside: What about the other photons?
PointedEars
--
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
testing your knowledge means everything.”
—Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 13:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cc8e30bb-6bf7-4ba0-bc7d-b0ad94f93fdb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #512491 |
Yes, Odd. Perhaps there ARE other photons!! (What ideas? Odd regurgitates- things like "swarming gravitons" and hoaxing an autopsy with joints from the butcher and strawberry jam. He has no critical thinking skills. But he reads!!)
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 15:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mqb3ab$1me$3@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #512508 |
On 8/10/2015 3:51 PM, john wrote: > Yes, Odd. > Perhaps there ARE other photons!! And so calculate the measurable implications of that. > (What ideas? Odd regurgitates- things > like "swarming gravitons" and > hoaxing an autopsy with joints from > the butcher and strawberry jam. He > has no critical thinking skills. But > he reads!!) > Well, I think that if your critical thinking skills tell you that an admitted hoaxster was not perpetrating a hoax at all, and that he was lying about lying, then your critical thinking skills need a little oil in the hinges, if you know what I mean. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 01:04 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <7347205.sNjYYejx7u@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #512513 |
Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/10/2015 3:51 PM, john wrote:
>> Yes, Odd.
>> Perhaps there ARE other photons!!
>
> And so calculate the measurable implications of that.
Which would be?
PointedEars
--
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
testing your knowledge means everything.”
—Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 07:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mqcr0a$1c4$4@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #512577 |
On 8/10/2015 6:04 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> On 8/10/2015 3:51 PM, john wrote: >>> Yes, Odd. >>> Perhaps there ARE other photons!! >> >> And so calculate the measurable implications of that. > > Which would be? It's his sub-photon idea. Let him calculate it. > > > PointedEars > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 06:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a7d262d0-b19c-4943-9b42-8ffe288ba0f2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #512655 |
Yes, Odd. It IS my sub-photon idea. The next fractal layer- the sub-atoms making up electrons- is 10^31 times smaller in diameter. Therefore each volume is the square of that. Sub-photons will each carry 1/10^62 as much energy as regular ones. But there will be 10^62 times more of them, so they carry just as much energy in total.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 08:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <46CdnStAY_GrZFTInZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #512668 |
On 8/11/15 8:26 AM, john wrote: > It IS my sub-photon idea. Flush! So much for that idea without an inkling of scientific support. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 09:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqctv9$r5d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #512668 |
On 8/11/2015 9:26 AM, john wrote: > Yes, Odd. > It IS my sub-photon idea. > > The next fractal layer- the sub-atoms > making up electrons- is 10^31 times > smaller in diameter. Therefore each > volume is the square of that. Sub-photons > will each carry 1/10^62 as much energy > as regular ones. But there will be > 10^62 times more of them, so they > carry just as much energy in total. > This is John's 'Sub-Photon Theory'. To anyone who is worried that when Bert dies we will have no more crazy shit to laugh at, I submit that John is waiting in the wings and will carry on once Bert has gone up to heaven. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 06:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cfff9031-9b86-4671-8936-cccddb2f4ac1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #512676 |
Actually, HVAC, it's part of my "universal fractal" theory. You believe in a "everything was small and dense and exploded" theory. I see a lot of fractal around, but not too many small, dense things spontaneously exploding. So.
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 13:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqdc6u$mgo$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #512679 |
On 8/11/2015 9:51 AM, john wrote: > Actually, HVAC, it's part of my "universal > fractal" theory. > You believe in a "everything was small > and dense and exploded" theory. > I see a lot of fractal around, but not > too many small, dense things > spontaneously exploding. So. > There is no evidence for any explosion. However, there IS evidence for an inflation of our universe. Google up what the difference is. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 11:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <218dd2ed-edec-47df-a09f-8e37665c52d1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #512744 |
Sam! Here's the post saying jets form new stars. I have capitalized the part that EXACTLY echoes what I said here several years ago. $Hubble finds evidence of galaxy star birth $regulated by black-hole fountain $> http://phys.org/news/2015-08-thickets-stars-$elliptical-galaxies.html $> Astronomers have uncovered a unique $process for how the universe's $> largest elliptical galaxies continue making $stars long after their $> peak years of star birth. NASA's Hubble &Space Telescope's exquisite $> high resolution and ultraviolet-light sensitivity &allowed the @> astronomers to see brilliant knots of hot, blue &stars forming along $> the jets of active black holes found in the ¢ers of giant @> elliptical galaxies. &> Combining Hubble data with observations &from a suite of ground-based $> and space telescopes, two independentteams &found that that THE BLACK &> HOLE, JETS AND NEWBORN STARS ARE ALL PARTS OF A SELF-REGULATING $> CYCLE. High-energy jets shooting from the $black hole heat a halo of > surrounding gas, controlling the rate at which the gas cools and > falls into the galaxy. > "Think of the gas surrounding a galaxy as an atmosphere," explained > the lead of the first study, Megan Donahue of Michigan State > University. "That atmosphere can contain material in different > states, just like our own atmosphere has gas, clouds, and rain. What > we are seeing is a process like a thunderstorm. As the jets propel > gas outward from the center of the galaxy, some of that gas cools and > precipitates into cold clumps that fall back toward the galaxy's > center like raindrops." > "The 'raindrops' eventually cool enough to become star-forming clouds > of cold molecular gas, and the unique far ultraviolet capabilities of > Hubble allowed us to directly observe these 'showers' of star > formation," explained the lead of the second study, Grant Tremblay of > Yale University. "We know that these showers are linked to the jets > because they're found in filaments and tendrils that wrap around the > jets or hug the edges of giant bubbles that the jets have inflated," > said Tremblay, "And they end up making a swirling 'puddle' of > star-forming gas around the central black hole." -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 18:44 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #512758 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Sam! >Here's the post saying jets form new stars. >I have capitalized the part that EXACTLY >echoes what I said here several years ago. Of course it doesn't say new stars form from the jets like you claim. It states the jets cause a cloud of gas to form new stars.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 08:51 -0500 |
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| In reply to | #512676 |
On 8/11/15 8:41 AM, HVAC wrote: > On 8/11/2015 9:26 AM, john wrote: >> Yes, Odd. >> It IS my sub-photon idea. >> >> The next fractal layer- the sub-atoms >> making up electrons- is 10^31 times >> smaller in diameter. Therefore each >> volume is the square of that. Sub-photons >> will each carry 1/10^62 as much energy >> as regular ones. But there will be >> 10^62 times more of them, so they >> carry just as much energy in total. >> > > > This is John's 'Sub-Photon Theory'. > > To anyone who is worried that when Bert dies we will have no more crazy > shit to laugh at, I submit that John is waiting in the wings and will > carry on once Bert has gone up to heaven. > John is a generation younger than Herbert Glazier. John is registered at crank dot net. He doesn't even try to sort life. He just pokes fun at physics because he doesn't understand any of it. It's a pity that sci.physics is infested with crackpots and trolls. No wonder it's hard for the likes of John to make any progress. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 07:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c7ad0395-5623-420d-b21e-5b5cfa530c26@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #512680 |
Sam Remember when HVAC posted his QPO and I said that stars fall into the center, jets form, and the material blows out to make new stars? They have just observed that!! Why don't you look back, find where I said that, and say, "Good prediction, John!"? I'll tell you why not. Because you're invested. You're zombie-ized.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 10:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8vudnWuxI64phVfInZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #512688 |
On 8/11/15 9:17 AM, john wrote: > Sam > Remember when HVAC posted his > QPO and I said that stars fall into the > center, jets form, and the material > blows out to make new stars? > They have just observed that!! > I can't find one observation that shows stars forming from the material in jets. Not one. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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