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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-11 07:58 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-11 19:56 +0000
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-12 09:12 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-12 20:17 +0000
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 06:17 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-13 15:32 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 17:12 +0000
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-15 12:28 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-15 19:53 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-16 13:37 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-16 19:30 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-17 17:24 -0500

#506289 — Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-11 07:58 -0500
SubjectRe: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Message-ID<pj42qa1r3al0580u9a6qdemh5dqatibai9@4ax.com>
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this three
>>>>>>>>>> dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is not restricted
>>>>>>>>>> thusly and our human minds aren't capable of all that is
>>>>>>>>>> associated with God's space/time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he STILL will
>>>>>>>>>punish us for not having the faith he asks us to give?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of understanding. 
>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the world,
>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then I got
>>>>>> some new data.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths".  Numbnuts.
>>>>>
>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>> 
>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>
>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>> 
>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>
>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.

ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.

>>>>>>>> What do you do with the space between your ears - store the
>>>>>>>> furniture?
>>>>>>>That's you, puke. We use it to think.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Again, this god deserves noting but my contempt.
>>>>>>>> Then you lose.
>>>>>>>What exactly do we lose?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eternal happiness.
>>>> 
>>>>>Your evidence for such a thing is what?
>>>>>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>>> 
>>>> Your blindness keeps you from seeing it.
>> 
>>>Your excuses get weaker and weaker.
>> 
>> Your failure are to your own demise.
>
>Wow! An even weaker excuse.

You just won't accept the truth.

>>>>>>>The afterlife that you've yet to show evidence for?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I'm wrong, you and I end up in the same place.  If God is right,
>>>>>> you're in deep trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>>How can a figment of your imagination be right when you don't even
>>>>>know that a ball on a string rotates on its own vertical axis?
>>>> 
>>>> I have more than a figment.
>>>
>>>A whole crazy, stupidly made-up supposed god character.
>> 
>> Satan licking his chops at "blackened smiler".  Hmmmmm.
>
>And a whole crazy, stupidly made-up supposed Satan character.

Only until he meets you at the train station.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#506381

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-11 19:56 +0000
Message-ID<mnrsd1$dlc$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#506289
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this three
>>>>>>>>>>> dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is not restricted
>>>>>>>>>>> thusly and our human minds aren't capable of all that is
>>>>>>>>>>> associated with God's space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he STILL
>>>>>>>>>>will punish us for not having the faith he asks us to give?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of understanding.
>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the world,
>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then I got
>>>>>>> some new data.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths". 
>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>
>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>> 
>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>
>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
> 
> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.

China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most of the 
Chinese have?
 
>>>>>>>>> What do you do with the space between your ears - store the
>>>>>>>>> furniture?
>>>>>>>>That's you, puke. We use it to think.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>Again, this god deserves noting but my contempt.
>>>>>>>>> Then you lose.
>>>>>>>>What exactly do we lose?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Eternal happiness.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>Your evidence for such a thing is what?
>>>>>>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your blindness keeps you from seeing it.
>>> 
>>>>Your excuses get weaker and weaker.
>>> 
>>> Your failure are to your own demise.
>>
>>Wow! An even weaker excuse.
> 
> You just won't accept the truth.

Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.
 
>>>>>>>>The afterlife that you've yet to show evidence for?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If I'm wrong, you and I end up in the same place.  If God is
>>>>>>> right, you're in deep trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How can a figment of your imagination be right when you don't even
>>>>>>know that a ball on a string rotates on its own vertical axis?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have more than a figment.
>>>>
>>>>A whole crazy, stupidly made-up supposed god character.
>>> 
>>> Satan licking his chops at "blackened smiler".  Hmmmmm.
>>
>>And a whole crazy, stupidly made-up supposed Satan character.
> 
> Only until he meets you at the train station.

Would that be Kings Cross station, platform 9 and 3/4?

> *****
> "The Satanic Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#506524

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-12 09:12 -0500
Message-ID<l9t4qat2efqpg117q1t5927opgj0cliq49@4ax.com>
In reply to#506381
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this three
>>>>>>>>>>>> dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is not restricted
>>>>>>>>>>>> thusly and our human minds aren't capable of all that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> associated with God's space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>will punish us for not having the faith he asks us to give?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of understanding.
>>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the world,
>>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then I got
>>>>>>>> some new data.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths". 
>>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>>> 
>>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>>
>>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
>> 
>> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.
>
>China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most of the 
>Chinese have?

According to a latest survey, 85% of Chinese people have religious beliefs or
had some religious practices and only 15% of them are real atheists. (The real
atheists here refer to those who do not have faith in any religions nor had any
activities related to religions or folk customs.) 185 million people believe in
Buddhism and 33 million have faith in Christianity and believes in the existence
of God. Only 12 million people are Taoists, although more than one hundred
million have taken part in Taoism activities before. Thus, it is obvious that
the Buddhism has the widest influence. The other major religions are Taoism,
Confucianism, Islam and Christianity.
 
>>>>>>>>>> What do you do with the space between your ears - store the
>>>>>>>>>> furniture?
>>>>>>>>>That's you, puke. We use it to think.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>Again, this god deserves noting but my contempt.
>>>>>>>>>> Then you lose.
>>>>>>>>>What exactly do we lose?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Eternal happiness.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Your evidence for such a thing is what?
>>>>>>>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your blindness keeps you from seeing it.
>>>> 
>>>>>Your excuses get weaker and weaker.
>>>> 
>>>> Your failure are to your own demise.
>>>
>>>Wow! An even weaker excuse.
>> 
>> You just won't accept the truth.

>Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.

The downtown train is pulling into the station now.
 
>>>>>>>>>The afterlife that you've yet to show evidence for?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If I'm wrong, you and I end up in the same place.  If God is
>>>>>>>> right, you're in deep trouble.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How can a figment of your imagination be right when you don't even
>>>>>>>know that a ball on a string rotates on its own vertical axis?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have more than a figment.
>>>>>
>>>>>A whole crazy, stupidly made-up supposed god character.
>>>> 
>>>> Satan licking his chops at "blackened smiler".  Hmmmmm.
>>>
>>>And a whole crazy, stupidly made-up supposed Satan character.
>> 
>> Only until he meets you at the train station.

>Would that be Kings Cross station, platform 9 and 3/4?

Would that be satan's standard stopping platforms?


the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#506607

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-12 20:17 +0000
Message-ID<mnui05$mps$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#506524
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:12:45 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this three
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is not restricted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thusly and our human minds aren't capable of all that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> associated with God's space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>will punish us for not having the faith he asks us to give?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of understanding.
>>>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the world,
>>>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then I got
>>>>>>>>> some new data.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths".
>>>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>>>
>>>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
>>> 
>>> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.
>>
>>China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most of
>>the Chinese have?
> 
> According to a latest survey, 85% of Chinese people have religious
> beliefs or had some religious practices and only 15% of them are real
> atheists. (The real atheists here refer to those who do not have faith
> in any religions nor had any activities related to religions or folk
> customs.) 185 million people believe in Buddhism and 33 million have
> faith in Christianity and believes in the existence of God. Only 12
> million people are Taoists, although more than one hundred million have
> taken part in Taoism activities before. Thus, it is obvious that the
> Buddhism has the widest influence. The other major religions are Taoism,
> Confucianism, Islam and Christianity.

Buddhism is not a theistic belief (they have no gods), therefore there are 
185 million more atheists than you account for.
  
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you do with the space between your ears - store the
>>>>>>>>>>> furniture?
>>>>>>>>>>That's you, puke. We use it to think.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, this god deserves noting but my contempt.
>>>>>>>>>>> Then you lose.
>>>>>>>>>>What exactly do we lose?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Eternal happiness.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Your evidence for such a thing is what?
>>>>>>>>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Your blindness keeps you from seeing it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>Your excuses get weaker and weaker.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your failure are to your own demise.
>>>>
>>>>Wow! An even weaker excuse.
>>> 
>>> You just won't accept the truth.
> 
>>Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.
> 
> The downtown train is pulling into the station now.

And now the empty threats.

>>>>>>>>>>The afterlife that you've yet to show evidence for?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If I'm wrong, you and I end up in the same place.  If God is
>>>>>>>>> right, you're in deep trouble.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How can a figment of your imagination be right when you don't even
>>>>>>>>know that a ball on a string rotates on its own vertical axis?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have more than a figment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A whole crazy, stupidly made-up supposed god character.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Satan licking his chops at "blackened smiler".  Hmmmmm.
>>>>
>>>>And a whole crazy, stupidly made-up supposed Satan character.
>>> 
>>> Only until he meets you at the train station.
> 
>>Would that be Kings Cross station, platform 9 and 3/4?
> 
> Would that be satan's standard stopping platforms?

It's where Harry Potter boarded the train to Hogwarts, Satanist puke.

> *****
> "The Satanic Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#506700

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 06:17 -0400
Message-ID<mo0340$k0f$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#506607
On 7/12/2015 4:17 PM, Smiler wrote:
>
> Buddhism is not a theistic belief (they have no gods), therefore there are
> 185 million more atheists than you account for.


Buddha had superpowers.



-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#506837

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-13 15:32 -0500
Message-ID<nt78qatp47kjk8chfadremk67sd25p96mu@4ax.com>
In reply to#506607
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:17:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:12:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is not restricted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thusly and our human minds aren't capable of all that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> associated with God's space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>will punish us for not having the faith he asks us to give?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of understanding.
>>>>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the world,
>>>>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then I got
>>>>>>>>>> some new data.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths".
>>>>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
>>>> 
>>>> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.
>>>
>>>China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most of
>>>the Chinese have?
>> 
>> According to a latest survey, 85% of Chinese people have religious
>> beliefs or had some religious practices and only 15% of them are real
>> atheists. (The real atheists here refer to those who do not have faith
>> in any religions nor had any activities related to religions or folk
>> customs.) 185 million people believe in Buddhism and 33 million have
>> faith in Christianity and believes in the existence of God. Only 12
>> million people are Taoists, although more than one hundred million have
>> taken part in Taoism activities before. Thus, it is obvious that the
>> Buddhism has the widest influence. The other major religions are Taoism,
>> Confucianism, Islam and Christianity.

>Buddhism is not a theistic belief (they have no gods), therefore there are 
>185 million more atheists than you account for.

The latest survey above includes Buddha as a religious belief.
  
>>>Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.
>> 
>> The downtown train is pulling into the station now.
>
>And now the empty threats.

Satan is your boy, not mine.  He'll be collecting your soul shortly.


the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#507021

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-14 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<mo3fur$13o$4@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#506837
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:32:50 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:17:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:12:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restricted thusly and our human minds aren't capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that is associated with God's space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>STILL will punish us for not having the faith he asks us to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>give?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of understanding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the world,
>>>>>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then I
>>>>>>>>>>> got some new data.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths".
>>>>>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.
>>>>
>>>>China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most of
>>>>the Chinese have?
>>> 
>>> According to a latest survey, 85% of Chinese people have religious
>>> beliefs or had some religious practices and only 15% of them are real
>>> atheists. (The real atheists here refer to those who do not have faith
>>> in any religions nor had any activities related to religions or folk
>>> customs.) 185 million people believe in Buddhism and 33 million have
>>> faith in Christianity and believes in the existence of God. Only 12
>>> million people are Taoists, although more than one hundred million
>>> have taken part in Taoism activities before. Thus, it is obvious that
>>> the Buddhism has the widest influence. The other major religions are
>>> Taoism,
>>> Confucianism, Islam and Christianity.
> 
>>Buddhism is not a theistic belief (they have no gods), therefore there
>>are 185 million more atheists than you account for.
> 
> The latest survey above includes Buddha as a religious belief.
>   
>>>>Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.
>>> 
>>> The downtown train is pulling into the station now.
>>
>>And now the empty threats.
> 
> Satan is your boy, not mine. 

You believe in him, not me.

> He'll be collecting your soul shortly.

That would be a soul that you have no evidence for.

> *****
> "The Satanic Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
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#507251

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-15 12:28 -0500
Message-ID<q06dqall2irgvptod6sthqpu1v6i6hka48@4ax.com>
In reply to#507021
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:12:59 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:32:50 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:17:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:12:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restricted thusly and our human minds aren't capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that is associated with God's space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>STILL will punish us for not having the faith he asks us to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>give?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of understanding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the world,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then I
>>>>>>>>>>>> got some new data.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths".
>>>>>>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.
>>>>>
>>>>>China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most of
>>>>>the Chinese have?
>>>> 
>>>> According to a latest survey, 85% of Chinese people have religious
>>>> beliefs or had some religious practices and only 15% of them are real
>>>> atheists. (The real atheists here refer to those who do not have faith
>>>> in any religions nor had any activities related to religions or folk
>>>> customs.) 185 million people believe in Buddhism and 33 million have
>>>> faith in Christianity and believes in the existence of God. Only 12
>>>> million people are Taoists, although more than one hundred million
>>>> have taken part in Taoism activities before. Thus, it is obvious that
>>>> the Buddhism has the widest influence. The other major religions are
>>>> Taoism,
>>>> Confucianism, Islam and Christianity.
>> 
>>>Buddhism is not a theistic belief (they have no gods), therefore there
>>>are 185 million more atheists than you account for.
>> 
>> The latest survey above includes Buddha as a religious belief.
>>   
>>>>>Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.
>>>> 
>>>> The downtown train is pulling into the station now.
>>>
>>>And now the empty threats.
>> 
>> Satan is your boy, not mine. 
>
>You believe in him, not me.

Not me.  I believe in almighty God.

>> He'll be collecting your soul shortly.
>
>That would be a soul that you have no evidence for.

God told me it real.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#507318

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-15 19:53 +0000
Message-ID<mo6do1$k91$3@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#507251
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:28:35 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:12:59 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:32:50 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:17:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:12:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restricted thusly and our human minds aren't capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that is associated with God's space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>STILL will punish us for not having the faith he asks us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to give?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>world,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got some new data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most
>>>>>>of the Chinese have?
>>>>> 
>>>>> According to a latest survey, 85% of Chinese people have religious
>>>>> beliefs or had some religious practices and only 15% of them are
>>>>> real atheists. (The real atheists here refer to those who do not
>>>>> have faith in any religions nor had any activities related to
>>>>> religions or folk customs.) 185 million people believe in Buddhism
>>>>> and 33 million have faith in Christianity and believes in the
>>>>> existence of God. Only 12 million people are Taoists, although more
>>>>> than one hundred million have taken part in Taoism activities
>>>>> before. Thus, it is obvious that the Buddhism has the widest
>>>>> influence. The other major religions are Taoism,
>>>>> Confucianism, Islam and Christianity.
>>> 
>>>>Buddhism is not a theistic belief (they have no gods), therefore there
>>>>are 185 million more atheists than you account for.
>>> 
>>> The latest survey above includes Buddha as a religious belief.
>>>   
>>>>>>Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The downtown train is pulling into the station now.
>>>>
>>>>And now the empty threats.
>>> 
>>> Satan is your boy, not mine.
>>
>>You believe in him, not me.
> 
> Not me.  I believe in almighty God.

Then why do you keep mentioning Satan, if you don't believe in him?

>>> He'll be collecting your soul shortly.
>>
>>That would be a soul that you have no evidence for.
> 
> God told me it real.

It's just as unreal as your other delusions.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#507493

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-16 13:37 -0500
Message-ID<neufqa9vknfn9bpkmlmmqqd4ituk650itn@4ax.com>
In reply to#507318
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:53:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:28:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:12:59 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:32:50 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:17:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:12:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restricted thusly and our human minds aren't capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that is associated with God's space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>STILL will punish us for not having the faith he asks us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to give?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>world,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got some new data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most
>>>>>>>of the Chinese have?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> According to a latest survey, 85% of Chinese people have religious
>>>>>> beliefs or had some religious practices and only 15% of them are
>>>>>> real atheists. (The real atheists here refer to those who do not
>>>>>> have faith in any religions nor had any activities related to
>>>>>> religions or folk customs.) 185 million people believe in Buddhism
>>>>>> and 33 million have faith in Christianity and believes in the
>>>>>> existence of God. Only 12 million people are Taoists, although more
>>>>>> than one hundred million have taken part in Taoism activities
>>>>>> before. Thus, it is obvious that the Buddhism has the widest
>>>>>> influence. The other major religions are Taoism,
>>>>>> Confucianism, Islam and Christianity.
>>>> 
>>>>>Buddhism is not a theistic belief (they have no gods), therefore there
>>>>>are 185 million more atheists than you account for.
>>>> 
>>>> The latest survey above includes Buddha as a religious belief.
>>>>   
>>>>>>>Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The downtown train is pulling into the station now.
>>>>>
>>>>>And now the empty threats.
>>>> 
>>>> Satan is your boy, not mine.
>>>
>>>You believe in him, not me.
>> 
>> Not me.  I believe in almighty God.
>
>Then why do you keep mentioning Satan, if you don't believe in him?

Because you follow him.

>>>> He'll be collecting your soul shortly.
>>>
>>>That would be a soul that you have no evidence for.
>> 
>> God told me it real.
>
>It's just as unreal as your other delusions.

I'm sticking with God.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#507512

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-16 19:30 +0000
Message-ID<mo90oi$cfq$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#507493
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:37:54 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:53:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:28:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:12:59 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:32:50 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:17:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:12:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> three dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not restricted thusly and our human minds aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of all that is associated with God's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>STILL will punish us for not having the faith he asks us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to give?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>world,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got some new data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most
>>>>>>>>of the Chinese have?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> According to a latest survey, 85% of Chinese people have religious
>>>>>>> beliefs or had some religious practices and only 15% of them are
>>>>>>> real atheists. (The real atheists here refer to those who do not
>>>>>>> have faith in any religions nor had any activities related to
>>>>>>> religions or folk customs.) 185 million people believe in Buddhism
>>>>>>> and 33 million have faith in Christianity and believes in the
>>>>>>> existence of God. Only 12 million people are Taoists, although
>>>>>>> more than one hundred million have taken part in Taoism activities
>>>>>>> before. Thus, it is obvious that the Buddhism has the widest
>>>>>>> influence. The other major religions are Taoism,
>>>>>>> Confucianism, Islam and Christianity.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>Buddhism is not a theistic belief (they have no gods), therefore
>>>>>>there are 185 million more atheists than you account for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The latest survey above includes Buddha as a religious belief.
>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The downtown train is pulling into the station now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And now the empty threats.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Satan is your boy, not mine.
>>>>
>>>>You believe in him, not me.
>>> 
>>> Not me.  I believe in almighty God.
>>
>>Then why do you keep mentioning Satan, if you don't believe in him?
> 
> Because you follow him.

You were the first to mention him, not me.
But how can I follow something I don't believe exists?
Do you follow leprechauns?
 
>>>>> He'll be collecting your soul shortly.
>>>>
>>>>That would be a soul that you have no evidence for.
>>> 
>>> God told me it real.
>>
>>It's just as unreal as your other delusions.
> 
> I'm sticking with God.

That doesn't make it real.

> *****
> "The Satanic Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#507720

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-17 17:24 -0500
Message-ID<a20jqap3uerp7j7rmjaenr29k8pmbh3d8o@4ax.com>
In reply to#507512
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:30:26 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:37:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:53:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:28:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:12:59 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:32:50 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:17:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:12:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:58:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:47:45 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:42:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:41:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:39 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 05:18:27 -0400, HVAC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/6/2015 2:59 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're right, it can't if it is restricted to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> three dimensional space/time we occupy. But, God is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not restricted thusly and our human minds aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of all that is associated with God's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space/time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And even tho god MADE us incapable of understanding, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>STILL will punish us for not having the faith he asks us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to give?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unbelievable.  God made us totally capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People of faith outnumber you 32:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Only in your furniture filled tiny mind. Throughout the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>world,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people of all faiths outnumber atheists by about 4:1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope:  97% to 3%.  I used to thing it was 96% to 4%.  Then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got some new data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That number would include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Jains,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoroastrians,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>etc., etc. Not just your particular faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, that's why I used the term "people of all faiths".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Numbnuts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You wrote "People of faith outnumber you 32:1.", liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep,  all faiths.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It certainly is.  **ALL** faiths.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>That's not what you wrote above, confirmed liar.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ALL faiths.  97% people of faith to 3% atheist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>China is the most populous nation in the world. What faith do most
>>>>>>>>>of the Chinese have?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> According to a latest survey, 85% of Chinese people have religious
>>>>>>>> beliefs or had some religious practices and only 15% of them are
>>>>>>>> real atheists. (The real atheists here refer to those who do not
>>>>>>>> have faith in any religions nor had any activities related to
>>>>>>>> religions or folk customs.) 185 million people believe in Buddhism
>>>>>>>> and 33 million have faith in Christianity and believes in the
>>>>>>>> existence of God. Only 12 million people are Taoists, although
>>>>>>>> more than one hundred million have taken part in Taoism activities
>>>>>>>> before. Thus, it is obvious that the Buddhism has the widest
>>>>>>>> influence. The other major religions are Taoism,
>>>>>>>> Confucianism, Islam and Christianity.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Buddhism is not a theistic belief (they have no gods), therefore
>>>>>>>there are 185 million more atheists than you account for.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The latest survey above includes Buddha as a religious belief.
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>Weaker and weaker excuses with each post.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The downtown train is pulling into the station now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And now the empty threats.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Satan is your boy, not mine.
>>>>>
>>>>>You believe in him, not me.
>>>> 
>>>> Not me.  I believe in almighty God.
>>>
>>>Then why do you keep mentioning Satan, if you don't believe in him?
>> 
>> Because you follow him.

>You were the first to mention him, not me.
>But how can I follow something I don't believe exists?
>Do you follow leprechauns?

A lep did not bring the universe into existence.
 
>>>>>> He'll be collecting your soul shortly.
>>>>>
>>>>>That would be a soul that you have no evidence for.
>>>> 
>>>> God told me it real.
>>>
>>>It's just as unreal as your other delusions.
>> 
>> I'm sticking with God.
>That doesn't make it real.

But I'm on the right and correct side.  Shame on you.


the dukester, American-American

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