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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-14 15:49 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-15 07:06 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-15 08:56 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-15 13:58 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-15 21:43 +0000
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-15 23:48 +0200
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-16 12:52 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 14:36 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 00:05 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 19:20 +0000
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:15 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 21:33 +0000
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:37 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 07:17 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:16 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:15 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 00:12 +0200
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-16 18:48 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 19:27 +0000
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-17 14:33 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-17 23:41 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-17 23:00 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mattb. <Trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 23:03 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-18 02:35 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-18 11:23 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-22 12:35 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-06-22 09:56 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:17 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 19:28 +0200
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-18 06:12 +1000
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 22:36 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-17 15:42 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-18 22:43 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:21 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-19 20:10 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:39 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 06:57 +1000
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:24 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-21 09:14 +1000
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 14:58 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-22 09:27 +1000
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:56 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-24 08:50 +1000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-23 20:20 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-24 03:11 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:14 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-25 07:55 +1000
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:37 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-26 08:50 +1000
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:14 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-27 08:21 +1000
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-27 11:50 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-24 19:27 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-24 14:32 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 22:06 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 05:12 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 12:15 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-25 05:55 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:15 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:12 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-25 07:58 +1000
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:38 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-26 08:51 +1000
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:15 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:15 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:31 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:27 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-20 20:16 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 14:59 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 21:59 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 13:55 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:30 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 17:05 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:00 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-22 19:38 +1000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:58 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-24 08:54 +1000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 22:07 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:17 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-22 21:57 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:59 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:14 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-19 20:13 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-19 06:31 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:42 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:41 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 07:03 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:33 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-21 09:18 +1000
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:00 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 22:02 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 17:00 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-24 19:31 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:41 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-25 21:13 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:17 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-26 16:39 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-27 11:52 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-27 10:47 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-27 20:06 +0000
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 09:23 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-28 08:03 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 17:06 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-27 20:04 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 09:27 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-28 19:55 +0000
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 17:09 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 14:01 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:36 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:23 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 21:30 +0000
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:24 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:25 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 14:10 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:44 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-20 20:10 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:07 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 21:57 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 17:06 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-18 01:30 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:39 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 02:29 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-19 21:18 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:54 -0500
                  Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 00:23 -0400
                    Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 06:24 -0400
                      Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. Jane@home.. - 2015-06-20 21:05 +1000
                        Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 07:31 -0400
                          Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-06-20 05:50 -0700
                            Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 09:41 -0400
                            Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. Jane@home.. - 2015-06-21 09:46 +1000
                              Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-21 07:05 -0400
                        Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-20 05:24 -0700
                          Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 08:29 -0400
                      Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 12:07 -0400
                        Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-06-22 07:56 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:51 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 21:18 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:12 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-22 22:19 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 17:08 -0500

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#502974

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-27 11:52 -0500
Message-ID<33ltoa1jc2t7jctcocutbvrvef5a0cju2v@4ax.com>
In reply to#502838
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:39:33 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 06/26/2015 03:17 PM, duke wrote:
>> Well, we profess that God is everywhere's.
>
>I thought you said hell was separation from God.  Isn't hell included in 
>"everywhere's" ?

God IS everywhere's.  The residents of hell are separated from
God.........forever.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#502989

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-27 10:47 -0700
Message-ID<mmmnip21a00@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#502974
On 06/27/2015 09:52 AM, duke wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:39:33 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>
>> >On 06/26/2015 03:17 PM, duke wrote:
>>> >>Well, we profess that God is everywhere's.
>> >
>> >I thought you said hell was separation from God.  Isn't hell included in
>> >"everywhere's" ?
> God IS everywhere's.  The residents of hell are separated from
> God.........forever.

If they are separated from God, and if they are in hell, then God is not 
in hell, therefore (wait for it....)  God is not everywhere's.

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#503008

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-27 20:06 +0000
Message-ID<mmmvnr$dln$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#502989
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:47:09 -0700, talishi wrote:

> On 06/27/2015 09:52 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:39:33 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> >On 06/26/2015 03:17 PM, duke wrote:
>>>> >>Well, we profess that God is everywhere's.
>>> >
>>> >I thought you said hell was separation from God.  Isn't hell included
>>> >in "everywhere's" ?
>> God IS everywhere's.  The residents of hell are separated from
>> God.........forever.
> 
> If they are separated from God, and if they are in hell, then God is not
> in hell, therefore (wait for it....)  God is not everywhere's.

Don't confuse him with logic. He's confused enough already.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#503126

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-28 09:23 -0500
Message-ID<8l00pad9vg7ojij2htiht9rhjosgjtutpo@4ax.com>
In reply to#502989
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:47:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 06/27/2015 09:52 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:39:33 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> >On 06/26/2015 03:17 PM, duke wrote:
>>>> >>Well, we profess that God is everywhere's.
>>> >
>>> >I thought you said hell was separation from God.  Isn't hell included in
>>> >"everywhere's" ?
>> God IS everywhere's.  The residents of hell are separated from
>> God.........forever.
>
>If they are separated from God, and if they are in hell, then God is not 
>in hell, therefore (wait for it....)  God is not everywhere's.

God is everywhere.  The damned are separated from him.   Please don't play
foolish by demanding that, if God is everywhere, he must be active on both sides
of the door.

>

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#503140

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-28 08:03 -0700
Message-ID<mmp2cu5cqo@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#503126
On 06/28/2015 07:23 AM, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:47:09 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>
>> >On 06/27/2015 09:52 AM, duke wrote:
>>> >>On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:39:33 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>   wrote:
>>> >>
>>>>> >>> >On 06/26/2015 03:17 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> >>Well, we profess that God is everywhere's.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >I thought you said hell was separation from God.  Isn't hell included in
>>>>> >>> >"everywhere's" ?
>>> >>God IS everywhere's.  The residents of hell are separated from
>>> >>God.........forever.
>> >
>> >If they are separated from God, and if they are in hell, then God is not
>> >in hell, therefore (wait for it....)  God is not everywhere's.
> God is everywhere.  The damned are separated from him.

If God is everywhere, and the damned are separated from him, then where 
are the damned?

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#503243

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-28 17:06 -0500
Message-ID<bur0pal2906araqkl5rdklq8ihti1d7k8o@4ax.com>
In reply to#503140
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:03:58 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 06/28/2015 07:23 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:47:09 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> >On 06/27/2015 09:52 AM, duke wrote:
>>>> >>On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:39:33 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>   wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >On 06/26/2015 03:17 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>Well, we profess that God is everywhere's.
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >I thought you said hell was separation from God.  Isn't hell included in
>>>>>> >>> >"everywhere's" ?
>>>> >>God IS everywhere's.  The residents of hell are separated from
>>>> >>God.........forever.
>>> >
>>> >If they are separated from God, and if they are in hell, then God is not
>>> >in hell, therefore (wait for it....)  God is not everywhere's.
>> God is everywhere.  The damned are separated from him.
>
>If God is everywhere, and the damned are separated from him, then where 
>are the damned?

Lonely, real lonely.  And for all eternity to boot.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#503007

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-27 20:04 +0000
Message-ID<mmmvl2$dln$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#502810
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:17:32 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:41:34 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:31:16 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:00:13 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:02:19 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:00:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 09:18:44 +1000, Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:33:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I think I have solved your problem Duke. From your own
>>>>>>>>>>description,
>>>>>>>>>>I can now define your god. The DNA molecule is the creator of
>>>>>>>>>>all life in the universe so it must be your god.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well, it's not really a problem of mine.  However, where did said
>>>>>>>>>"DNA molecule"
>>>>>>>>>come from and how did it exist when there was NO space for it to
>>>>>>>>>occupy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Let's all worship the DNA molecule, the one and only true
>>>>>>>>>>god!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey dupe, the concepts of beginnings and endings and even infinity
>>>>>>>>are purely psychological. In reality there are no such things.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks be to God.  I was afraid you were real.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm afraid that you are real.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yep, your worst nightmare until you meet your maker.
>>>>
>>>>I met my makers when I was a child. I called them Mum and Dad.
> 
>>> They didn't make you.  All they did was mix the ingredients that were
>>> prepared for procreation by God and placed 50% in dad (sperm) and 50%
>>> in mom (egg).
> 
>>That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
> 
> You're here, aren't you?

That only proves that my parents had sex, nothing more.
  
>>> Then you blew it when you refused baptism.
>>How could I refuse something I was never offered?
> 
> Wise men seek truth.

I've found it. You have only wishful non-thinking.
 
>>> Now you're just an old run-of-the-mill loser waiting for your eternal
>>> trip to the fires of hell.
> 
>>Will your supposed god character be in that supposed hell?
> 
> Well, we profess that God is everywhere's. 

So what evil has your supposed god done to be there?

> However, he won't interface with you

Glad you agree that non-existent things have no interface.

> as satan has that duty.

And Puke again confirms his Satanism.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#503127

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-28 09:27 -0500
Message-ID<5s00pahf6527h8c1vrsfkjsn931jl7aato@4ax.com>
In reply to#503007
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:04:50 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:17:32 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:41:34 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:31:16 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:00:13 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:02:19 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:00:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 09:18:44 +1000, Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:33:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I think I have solved your problem Duke. From your own
>>>>>>>>>>>description,
>>>>>>>>>>>I can now define your god. The DNA molecule is the creator of
>>>>>>>>>>>all life in the universe so it must be your god.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Well, it's not really a problem of mine.  However, where did said
>>>>>>>>>>"DNA molecule"
>>>>>>>>>>come from and how did it exist when there was NO space for it to
>>>>>>>>>>occupy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Let's all worship the DNA molecule, the one and only true
>>>>>>>>>>>god!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey dupe, the concepts of beginnings and endings and even infinity
>>>>>>>>>are purely psychological. In reality there are no such things.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks be to God.  I was afraid you were real.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm afraid that you are real.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yep, your worst nightmare until you meet your maker.
>>>>>
>>>>>I met my makers when I was a child. I called them Mum and Dad.
>> 
>>>> They didn't make you.  All they did was mix the ingredients that were
>>>> prepared for procreation by God and placed 50% in dad (sperm) and 50%
>>>> in mom (egg).
>> 
>>>That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
>> 
>> You're here, aren't you?
>
>That only proves that my parents had sex, nothing more.

And the only reason you are here.  Everything thing else is of God.

>>>> Then you blew it when you refused baptism.
>>>How could I refuse something I was never offered?
>> 
>> Wise men seek truth.
>I've found it. You have only wishful non-thinking.

You're only pretending that the road ahead is not fraught with danger.
 
>>>> Now you're just an old run-of-the-mill loser waiting for your eternal
>>>> trip to the fires of hell.
>> 
>>>Will your supposed god character be in that supposed hell?
>> 
>> Well, we profess that God is everywhere's. 

>So what evil has your supposed god done to be there?
>> However, he won't interface with you
>Glad you agree that non-existent things have no interface.

>> as satan has that duty.

>And Puke again confirms his Satanism.

Satan loves the way you talk.  He may even be getting a boner just thinking
about your arrival.

the dukester, American-American

*****
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Pope Paul VI
*****

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#503224

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-28 19:55 +0000
Message-ID<mmpjgd$5gk$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#503127
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 09:27:54 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:04:50 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:17:32 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:41:34 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:31:16 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:00:13 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:02:19 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:00:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 09:18:44 +1000, Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:33:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I think I have solved your problem Duke. From your own
>>>>>>>>>>>>description,
>>>>>>>>>>>>I can now define your god. The DNA molecule is the creator of
>>>>>>>>>>>>all life in the universe so it must be your god.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Well, it's not really a problem of mine.  However, where did
>>>>>>>>>>>said "DNA molecule"
>>>>>>>>>>>come from and how did it exist when there was NO space for it
>>>>>>>>>>>to occupy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Let's all worship the DNA molecule, the one and only true
>>>>>>>>>>>>god!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hey dupe, the concepts of beginnings and endings and even
>>>>>>>>>>infinity are purely psychological. In reality there are no such
>>>>>>>>>>things.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks be to God.  I was afraid you were real.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm afraid that you are real.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yep, your worst nightmare until you meet your maker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I met my makers when I was a child. I called them Mum and Dad.
>>> 
>>>>> They didn't make you.  All they did was mix the ingredients that
>>>>> were prepared for procreation by God and placed 50% in dad (sperm)
>>>>> and 50%
>>>>> in mom (egg).
>>> 
>>>>That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
>>> 
>>> You're here, aren't you?
>>
>>That only proves that my parents had sex, nothing more.
> 
> And the only reason you are here.  Everything thing else is of God.

That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
 
>>>>> Then you blew it when you refused baptism.
>>>>How could I refuse something I was never offered?
>>> 
>>> Wise men seek truth.
>>I've found it. You have only wishful non-thinking.
> 
> You're only pretending that the road ahead is not fraught with danger.

Why would I pretend that when I know it's quite safe.
It's only you that shits himself at the pretended danger.

>>>>> Now you're just an old run-of-the-mill loser waiting for your
>>>>> eternal trip to the fires of hell.
>>> 
>>>>Will your supposed god character be in that supposed hell?
>>> 
>>> Well, we profess that God is everywhere's.
> 
>>So what evil has your supposed god done to be there?
>>> However, he won't interface with you
>>Glad you agree that non-existent things have no interface.
> 
>>> as satan has that duty.
> 
>>And Puke again confirms his Satanism.
> 
> Satan loves the way you talk. 

He told you that himself, did he, Satanist puke?

> He may even be getting a boner just thinking about your arrival.

You, of course, know that your supposed Satan has a penis because you've 
sucked it many times.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#503244

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-28 17:09 -0500
Message-ID<a0s0pap5j16j63bc7dqpdrcr7lvbia22j8@4ax.com>
In reply to#503224
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:55:57 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 09:27:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:04:50 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:17:32 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:41:34 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:31:16 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:00:13 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:02:19 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:00:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 09:18:44 +1000, Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:33:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I think I have solved your problem Duke. From your own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>description,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I can now define your god. The DNA molecule is the creator of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>all life in the universe so it must be your god.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, it's not really a problem of mine.  However, where did
>>>>>>>>>>>>said "DNA molecule"
>>>>>>>>>>>>come from and how did it exist when there was NO space for it
>>>>>>>>>>>>to occupy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Let's all worship the DNA molecule, the one and only true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>god!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hey dupe, the concepts of beginnings and endings and even
>>>>>>>>>>>infinity are purely psychological. In reality there are no such
>>>>>>>>>>>things.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks be to God.  I was afraid you were real.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm afraid that you are real.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yep, your worst nightmare until you meet your maker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I met my makers when I was a child. I called them Mum and Dad.
>>>> 
>>>>>> They didn't make you.  All they did was mix the ingredients that
>>>>>> were prepared for procreation by God and placed 50% in dad (sperm)
>>>>>> and 50%
>>>>>> in mom (egg).
>>>> 
>>>>>That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
>>>> 
>>>> You're here, aren't you?
>>>
>>>That only proves that my parents had sex, nothing more.
>> 
>> And the only reason you are here.  Everything thing else is of God.
>
>That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.

No, the God almighty that **I** do have evidence for.

>>>>>> Then you blew it when you refused baptism.
>>>>>How could I refuse something I was never offered?
>>>> 
>>>> Wise men seek truth.
>>>I've found it. You have only wishful non-thinking.
>> 
>> You're only pretending that the road ahead is not fraught with danger.

>Why would I pretend that when I know it's quite safe.
>It's only you that shits himself at the pretended danger.

Pretend to your hearts content.  You can't win.

>>>>>> Now you're just an old run-of-the-mill loser waiting for your
>>>>>> eternal trip to the fires of hell.
>>>> 
>>>>>Will your supposed god character be in that supposed hell?
>>>> 
>>>> Well, we profess that God is everywhere's.
>> 
>>>So what evil has your supposed god done to be there?
>>>> However, he won't interface with you
>>>Glad you agree that non-existent things have no interface.
>> 
>>>> as satan has that duty.
>> 
>>>And Puke again confirms his Satanism.
>> 
>> Satan loves the way you talk. 

>He told you that himself, did he, Satanist puke?

When he finds a fool that rejects God, he shoots fireworks.   

>> He may even be getting a boner just thinking about your arrival.

>You, of course, know that your supposed Satan has a penis because you've 
>sucked it many times.

No, but you will.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#501419

From"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date2015-06-20 14:01 +0200
Message-ID<55855612$0$23224$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to#501031
"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
news:5fc6oadk4mkcfjhad3tfsanv8c1vgu97ck@4ax.com...
>
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:12:50 +1000, Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:28:21 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >
> >>> >This is how it'll play itself out. We, as a species, are approaching 
> >>> >100%
> >>> >certainty asymptotically, and at some point it becomes absurd to 
> >>> >still
> >>> >harbour beliefs in gods. But don't worry, you won't live to see it.
> >>> >You're
> >>> >destined to remain deluded for the rest of your life.
> >>>
> >>> You too.
> >>
> >>Have you ever been abroad? To my neck of the woods? Religion is as good 
> >>as
> >>gone in all aspects of society. I'm already living the virtual 100%.
> >>'Whispering spirits' won't impress any of us.
> >
> >I can easily prove there are no gods. All I want is an accurate 
> >definition of
> >one first.
>
> The creator of the universe -  the appearance of something from nothing
> appearing in nothingness when suddenly an infinitely small point of 
> infinite
> mass and energy appeared that exploded/expanded outward to form our 
> current
> visible universe of some 160 billion trillion miles in diameter..
>
> Your turn.

Not yet. You still need to explain how your theory, that God is the one who 
caused everything, can be falsified. Without it you have nothing.




-- 
Malte Runz 

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#501441

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-20 09:36 -0500
Message-ID<mduaoap8u115uhopon57kkset8k706shs7@4ax.com>
In reply to#501419
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:01:27 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:5fc6oadk4mkcfjhad3tfsanv8c1vgu97ck@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:12:50 +1000, Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:28:21 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>> >
>> >>> >This is how it'll play itself out. We, as a species, are approaching 
>> >>> >100%
>> >>> >certainty asymptotically, and at some point it becomes absurd to 
>> >>> >still
>> >>> >harbour beliefs in gods. But don't worry, you won't live to see it.
>> >>> >You're
>> >>> >destined to remain deluded for the rest of your life.
>> >>>
>> >>> You too.
>> >>
>> >>Have you ever been abroad? To my neck of the woods? Religion is as good 
>> >>as
>> >>gone in all aspects of society. I'm already living the virtual 100%.
>> >>'Whispering spirits' won't impress any of us.
>> >
>> >I can easily prove there are no gods. All I want is an accurate 
>> >definition of
>> >one first.
>>
>> The creator of the universe -  the appearance of something from nothing
>> appearing in nothingness when suddenly an infinitely small point of 
>> infinite
>> mass and energy appeared that exploded/expanded outward to form our 
>> current
>> visible universe of some 160 billion trillion miles in diameter..
>>
>> Your turn.

>Not yet. You still need to explain how your theory, that God is the one who 
>caused everything, can be falsified. Without it you have nothing.

There's only one way to do that.  God, who is spirit, is creator of all things,
not needing space to exist in.

I'm assuming you misused the words "can be falsified".  That's your job.  

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#500767

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-17 15:23 -0500
Message-ID<1gl3oa1r31c2f9mlo12i42pnurhv4fc10f@4ax.com>
In reply to#500718
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:28:21 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>news:deo0oa9qjit0va3du8eobrouc8sb23fkko@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:48:59 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte...@forgitit.dk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>> >news:f5qrna1pptlcpdp0oinj114p8p2tjf6ufq@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >(snip)
>> >
>> >> When, oh when, will you losers try to support your unfounded profession
>> >> that
>> >> there is NO God.
>> >
>> >I seriously doubt that you can find anybody who'll claim that they /know/
>> >there is no God.
>>
>> That's what I've been saying all along. ...

>(It might be the second time this post appears)

I've seen it lots of times.

>So have atheists. It's only theists like you who claim, that atheists say
>they /know/ God doesn't exist.

I know that agnostics are actually what you atheist wannabe's are trying to
claim - that you simply just not a believer.  In facts, you are trying to deny
the existence of God.

>> ... That takes knowledge that no man
>> possesses. ...
>And so does knowing that God does exist.

We have the evidence based on his impact on our surroundings, like creation of
all things.

>> ... Hence, with no evidence, the best you guys can say is that you don't
>> believe, like in you don't believe the evidence that is available to us
>> all.

>Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do.

Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from.

>> >Personally, I settle for a 99,99999% certainty that it is
>> >so. I /believe/ that God doesn't exist.

>> Finally, you are an agnostic.  There's no such thing as a legitimate
>> atheist.

>An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in gods. I'm one of them, and I
>promise you I'm as legit as it gets.

No, an atheist, or atheist wannabe, chooses to deny/reject  the existence of
God.

>> >Not because I have hard, physical evidence to back up my belief, but
>> >because
>> >you have nothing to back up yours. And you're the one making the positive
>> >claim. An outrageous one as well, so I can sit back and wait for you to
>> >provide the evidence and see if it is sufficient to make me change my
>> >mind.
>> >I can't make any promises, though, and as you already know, the Bible and
>> >'Tales of the Sacred Whispers in the Heart' have never convinced me, and
>> >never will. So, if that is all you've got, I'll just have to crank it up
>> >a
>> >notch to 99,999996 % certainty.
>> >
>> >This is how it'll play itself out. We, as a species, are approaching 100%
>> >certainty asymptotically, and at some point it becomes absurd to still
>> >harbour beliefs in gods. But don't worry, you won't live to see it.
>> >You're
>> >destined to remain deluded for the rest of your life.
>>
>> You too.

>Have you ever been abroad? To my neck of the woods? Religion is as good as
>gone in all aspects of society. I'm already living the virtual 100%.
>'Whispering spirits' won't impress any of us.

When God knocks on your door and "Surprise, I've come to get you and send you
where you don't want to go", don't say I didn't try to help you.


the dukester, American-American

*****
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Pope Paul VI
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#500788

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-17 21:30 +0000
Message-ID<mlsouf$kfl$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#500767
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:23:12 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:28:21 +0200, "Malte Runz"
> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
> 
>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>news:deo0oa9qjit0va3du8eobrouc8sb23fkko@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:48:59 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>> <malte...@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>> >news:f5qrna1pptlcpdp0oinj114p8p2tjf6ufq@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >(snip)
>>> >
>>> >> When, oh when, will you losers try to support your unfounded
>>> >> profession that there is NO God.
>>> >
>>> >I seriously doubt that you can find anybody who'll claim that they
>>> >/know/
>>> >there is no God.
>>>
>>> That's what I've been saying all along. ...
> 
>>(It might be the second time this post appears)
> 
> I've seen it lots of times.
> 
>>So have atheists. It's only theists like you who claim, that atheists
>>say they /know/ God doesn't exist.
> 
> I know that agnostics are actually what you atheist wannabe's are trying
> to claim - that you simply just not a believer.  In facts, you are
> trying to deny the existence of God.

Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?

>>> ... That takes knowledge that no man possesses. ...
>>And so does knowing that God does exist.
> 
> We have the evidence based on his impact on our surroundings, like
> creation of all things.

Merely your stupid, unevidenced, unsubstanciated belief.
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
 
>>> ... Hence, with no evidence, the best you guys can say is that you
>>> don't believe, like in you don't believe the evidence that is
>>> available to us all.
> 
>>Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do.
> 
> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from.

You hide that evidence from us and merely show your beliefs.
 
>>> >Personally, I settle for a 99,99999% certainty that it is so. I
>>> >/believe/ that God doesn't exist.
> 
>>> Finally, you are an agnostic.  There's no such thing as a legitimate
>>> atheist.
> 
>>An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in gods. I'm one of them, and
>>I promise you I'm as legit as it gets.
> 
> No, an atheist, or atheist wannabe, chooses to deny/reject  the
> existence of God.

Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?
 
>>> >Not because I have hard, physical evidence to back up my belief, but
>>> >because you have nothing to back up yours. And you're the one making
>>> >the positive claim. An outrageous one as well, so I can sit back and
>>> >wait for you to provide the evidence and see if it is sufficient to
>>> >make me change my mind.
>>> >I can't make any promises, though, and as you already know, the Bible
>>> >and 'Tales of the Sacred Whispers in the Heart' have never convinced
>>> >me, and never will. So, if that is all you've got, I'll just have to
>>> >crank it up a
>>> >notch to 99,999996 % certainty.
>>> >
>>> >This is how it'll play itself out. We, as a species, are approaching
>>> >100%
>>> >certainty asymptotically, and at some point it becomes absurd to
>>> >still harbour beliefs in gods. But don't worry, you won't live to see
>>> >it. You're destined to remain deluded for the rest of your life.
>>>
>>> You too.
> 
>>Have you ever been abroad? To my neck of the woods? Religion is as good
>>as gone in all aspects of society. I'm already living the virtual 100%.
>>'Whispering spirits' won't impress any of us.
> 
> When God 

What god? The one you have NO EVIDENCE for?

> knocks on your door 

My door has no knocker. Why can't it use the bell?

> and "Surprise, I've come to get you and
> send you where you don't want to go", don't say I didn't try to help
> you.

I'll meet you there, puke.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#501041

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-18 16:24 -0500
Message-ID<mid6oap6rmrpu8qtuus6b6jenngmt5a6t7@4ax.com>
In reply to#500788
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:30:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:23:12 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:28:21 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>> 
>>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>news:deo0oa9qjit0va3du8eobrouc8sb23fkko@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:48:59 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>> <malte...@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>> >news:f5qrna1pptlcpdp0oinj114p8p2tjf6ufq@4ax.com...
>>>> >
>>>> >(snip)
>>>> >
>>>> >> When, oh when, will you losers try to support your unfounded
>>>> >> profession that there is NO God.
>>>> >
>>>> >I seriously doubt that you can find anybody who'll claim that they
>>>> >/know/
>>>> >there is no God.
>>>>
>>>> That's what I've been saying all along. ...
>> 
>>>(It might be the second time this post appears)
>> 
>> I've seen it lots of times.
>> 
>>>So have atheists. It's only theists like you who claim, that atheists
>>>say they /know/ God doesn't exist.
>> 
>> I know that agnostics are actually what you atheist wannabe's are trying
>> to claim - that you simply just not a believer.  In facts, you are
>> trying to deny the existence of God.
>
>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?

You don't need to deny it.  We see it and have it.

>>>> ... That takes knowledge that no man possesses. ...
>>>And so does knowing that God does exist.
>> 
>> We have the evidence based on his impact on our surroundings, like
>> creation of all things.

>Merely your stupid, unevidenced, unsubstanciated belief.
>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.

You can't see electricity or gravity either.  Yet they both exist.  How do we
know?  Because, like God, we know of their presence by the effects on that which
is our environment and surroundings..
 
>>>> ... Hence, with no evidence, the best you guys can say is that you
>>>> don't believe, like in you don't believe the evidence that is
>>>> available to us all.
>>>Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do.
>> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from.

>You hide that evidence from us and merely show your beliefs.

When you sick a hairpin in a electrical socket, you can say you just tripped.
 
>>>> >Personally, I settle for a 99,99999% certainty that it is so. I
>>>> >/believe/ that God doesn't exist.
>> 
>>>> Finally, you are an agnostic.  There's no such thing as a legitimate
>>>> atheist.
>> 
>>>An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in gods. I'm one of them, and
>>>I promise you I'm as legit as it gets.
>> 
>> No, an atheist, or atheist wannabe, chooses to deny/reject  the
>> existence of God.

>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?

You're shook up Because you can't see what we see.


the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#501272

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-19 19:25 +0000
Message-ID<mm1qap$358$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#501041
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:24:59 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:30:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:23:12 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:28:21 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>news:deo0oa9qjit0va3du8eobrouc8sb23fkko@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:48:59 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>> <malte...@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>> >news:f5qrna1pptlcpdp0oinj114p8p2tjf6ufq@4ax.com...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >(snip)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> When, oh when, will you losers try to support your unfounded
>>>>> >> profession that there is NO God.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I seriously doubt that you can find anybody who'll claim that they
>>>>> >/know/
>>>>> >there is no God.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what I've been saying all along. ...
>>> 
>>>>(It might be the second time this post appears)
>>> 
>>> I've seen it lots of times.
>>> 
>>>>So have atheists. It's only theists like you who claim, that atheists
>>>>say they /know/ God doesn't exist.
>>> 
>>> I know that agnostics are actually what you atheist wannabe's are
>>> trying to claim - that you simply just not a believer.  In facts, you
>>> are trying to deny the existence of God.
>>
>>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?
> 
> You don't need to deny it.  We see it and have it.

Thanks for the admission that it doesn't exist.

>>>>> ... That takes knowledge that no man possesses. ...
>>>>And so does knowing that God does exist.
>>> 
>>> We have the evidence based on his impact on our surroundings, like
>>> creation of all things.
> 
>>Merely your stupid, unevidenced, unsubstanciated belief.
>>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
> 
> You can't see electricity or gravity either.  Yet they both exist.  How
> do we know?  Because, like God, we know of their presence by the effects
> on that which is our environment and surroundings..

We can measure both electricity and gravity. How do you measure your god. 
Have you a godmeter?
  
>>>>> ... Hence, with no evidence, the best you guys can say is that you
>>>>> don't believe, like in you don't believe the evidence that is
>>>>> available to us all.
>>>>Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do.
>>> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from.
> 
>>You hide that evidence from us and merely show your beliefs.
> 
> When you sick a hairpin in a electrical socket, you can say you just
> tripped.

Thanks for admitting that you hide that evidence from us and merely show 
your beliefs.
  
>>>>> >Personally, I settle for a 99,99999% certainty that it is so. I
>>>>> >/believe/ that God doesn't exist.
>>> 
>>>>> Finally, you are an agnostic.  There's no such thing as a legitimate
>>>>> atheist.
>>> 
>>>>An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in gods. I'm one of them,
>>>>and I promise you I'm as legit as it gets.
>>> 
>>> No, an atheist, or atheist wannabe, chooses to deny/reject  the
>>> existence of God.
> 
>>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?
> 
> You're shook up Because you can't see what we see.

Why would I be shook up for not seeing something that is supposedly 
invisible? Your evidence for it is also invisible.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#501421

From"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date2015-06-20 14:10 +0200
Message-ID<55855822$0$23227$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to#501272
"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mm1qap$358$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:24:59 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:30:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> >
(snip)

> >>Merely your stupid, unevidenced, unsubstanciated belief.
> >>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
> >
> > You can't see electricity or gravity either.  Yet they both exist.  How
> > do we know?  Because, like God, we know of their presence by the effects
> > on that which is our environment and surroundings..
>
> We can measure both electricity and gravity. How do you measure your god.
> Have you a godmeter?

Here I must come to duke's rescue. He has answered that question 
unambiguously:
"None of us know."

(snip)


-- 
Malte Runz 

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#501442

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-20 09:44 -0500
Message-ID<bkuaoapraetripmj7ka7ks17jp4igpmen5@4ax.com>
In reply to#501272
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 19:25:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:24:59 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:30:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:23:12 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:28:21 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>news:deo0oa9qjit0va3du8eobrouc8sb23fkko@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:48:59 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>>> <malte...@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>> >news:f5qrna1pptlcpdp0oinj114p8p2tjf6ufq@4ax.com...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >(snip)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> When, oh when, will you losers try to support your unfounded
>>>>>> >> profession that there is NO God.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >I seriously doubt that you can find anybody who'll claim that they
>>>>>> >/know/
>>>>>> >there is no God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what I've been saying all along. ...
>>>> 
>>>>>(It might be the second time this post appears)
>>>> 
>>>> I've seen it lots of times.
>>>> 
>>>>>So have atheists. It's only theists like you who claim, that atheists
>>>>>say they /know/ God doesn't exist.
>>>> 
>>>> I know that agnostics are actually what you atheist wannabe's are
>>>> trying to claim - that you simply just not a believer.  In facts, you
>>>> are trying to deny the existence of God.
>>>
>>>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?
>> 
>> You don't need to deny it.  We see it and have it.
>
>Thanks for the admission that it doesn't exist.

You fuzzy brains are always receiving insult as compliment.

>>>>>> ... That takes knowledge that no man possesses. ...
>>>>>And so does knowing that God does exist.
>>>> 
>>>> We have the evidence based on his impact on our surroundings, like
>>>> creation of all things.
>> 
>>>Merely your stupid, unevidenced, unsubstanciated belief.
>>>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>> 
>> You can't see electricity or gravity either.  Yet they both exist.  How
>> do we know?  Because, like God, we know of their presence by the effects
>> on that which is our environment and surroundings..

>We can measure both electricity and gravity. How do you measure your god. 
>Have you a godmeter?

No you can't.  All you can see is a needle deflection and thus you say "ah,
that's electricity/amps".  You can stick a hair pin in an electrical socket, and
when you pick yourself up off the floor, you can say "ah, that's electricity". 

Even gravity can't be determined without a huge gravitational constant applied.

And so we determine the presence of God by his attributes - supreme creator
occupying no space or time..
 
>>>>>> ... Hence, with no evidence, the best you guys can say is that you
>>>>>> don't believe, like in you don't believe the evidence that is
>>>>>> available to us all.
>>>>>Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do.
>>>> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from.
>> 
>>>You hide that evidence from us and merely show your beliefs.
>> 
>> When you sick a hairpin in a electrical socket, you can say you just
>> tripped.

>Thanks for admitting that you hide that evidence from us and merely show 
>your beliefs.

And yours that there is no god.
>  
>>>>>> >Personally, I settle for a 99,99999% certainty that it is so. I
>>>>>> >/believe/ that God doesn't exist.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Finally, you are an agnostic.  There's no such thing as a legitimate
>>>>>> atheist.
>>>> 
>>>>>An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in gods. I'm one of them,
>>>>>and I promise you I'm as legit as it gets.
>>>> 
>>>> No, an atheist, or atheist wannabe, chooses to deny/reject  the
>>>> existence of God.
>> 
>>>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?
>> 
>> You're shook up Because you can't see what we see.

>Why would I be shook up for not seeing something that is supposedly 
>invisible? Your evidence for it is also invisible.

Show me a bucket of electricity or a pint of gravity.

>
>> *****
>> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>> Pope Paul VI *****

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#501533

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-20 20:10 +0000
Message-ID<mm4hcc$re4$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#501442
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:44:24 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 19:25:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:24:59 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:30:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:23:12 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:28:21 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>>news:deo0oa9qjit0va3du8eobrouc8sb23fkko@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:48:59 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>>>> <malte...@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>>> >news:f5qrna1pptlcpdp0oinj114p8p2tjf6ufq@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >(snip)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> When, oh when, will you losers try to support your unfounded
>>>>>>> >> profession that there is NO God.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >I seriously doubt that you can find anybody who'll claim that
>>>>>>> >they /know/
>>>>>>> >there is no God.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's what I've been saying all along. ...
>>>>> 
>>>>>>(It might be the second time this post appears)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've seen it lots of times.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>So have atheists. It's only theists like you who claim, that
>>>>>>atheists say they /know/ God doesn't exist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that agnostics are actually what you atheist wannabe's are
>>>>> trying to claim - that you simply just not a believer.  In facts,
>>>>> you are trying to deny the existence of God.
>>>>
>>>>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?
>>> 
>>> You don't need to deny it.  We see it and have it.
>>
>>Thanks for the admission that it doesn't exist.
> 
> You fuzzy brains are always receiving insult as compliment.

You shitty-brained theists never admit your errors.
 
>>>>>>> ... That takes knowledge that no man possesses. ...
>>>>>>And so does knowing that God does exist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have the evidence based on his impact on our surroundings, like
>>>>> creation of all things.
>>> 
>>>>Merely your stupid, unevidenced, unsubstanciated belief.
>>>>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>> 
>>> You can't see electricity or gravity either.  Yet they both exist. 
>>> How do we know?  Because, like God, we know of their presence by the
>>> effects on that which is our environment and surroundings..
> 
>>We can measure both electricity and gravity. How do you measure your
>>god.
>>Have you a godmeter?
> 
> No you can't. 

Then how does my electricity supplier know how much I've used?

<snip bullshit>

> 
> Even gravity can't be determined without a huge gravitational constant
> applied.

But we can still measure it.
 
> And so we determine the presence of God by his attributes - supreme
> creator occupying no space or time..

Thanks for agreeing that your supposed god character cannot be measured in 
any way, almost as if it doesn't exist.

>>>>>>> ... Hence, with no evidence, the best you guys can say is that you
>>>>>>> don't believe, like in you don't believe the evidence that is
>>>>>>> available to us all.
>>>>>>Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do.
>>>>> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from.
>>> 
>>>>You hide that evidence from us and merely show your beliefs.
>>> 
>>> When you sick a hairpin in a electrical socket, you can say you just
>>> tripped.
> 
>>Thanks for admitting that you hide that evidence from us and merely show
>>your beliefs.
> 
> And yours that there is no god.

But I know, and can prove, there are some claimed gods. I don't believe in 
any of them. Where is my claim that there are no gods, liar?

>>>>>>> >Personally, I settle for a 99,99999% certainty that it is so. I
>>>>>>> >/believe/ that God doesn't exist.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Finally, you are an agnostic.  There's no such thing as a
>>>>>>> legitimate atheist.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in gods. I'm one of them,
>>>>>>and I promise you I'm as legit as it gets.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, an atheist, or atheist wannabe, chooses to deny/reject  the
>>>>> existence of God.
>>> 
>>>>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?
>>> 
>>> You're shook up Because you can't see what we see.
> 
>>Why would I be shook up for not seeing something that is supposedly
>>invisible? Your evidence for it is also invisible.
> 
> Show me a bucket of electricity or a pint of gravity.

Show me that you're sane.

>>> *****
>>> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>>> Pope Paul VI *****
> 
> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#501716

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-21 15:07 -0500
Message-ID<vv5eoa1c6mtkfd5mht8deuja1r1mrgl0cv@4ax.com>
In reply to#501533
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:10:52 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:44:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 19:25:13 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:24:59 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:30:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:23:12 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:28:21 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>>>news:deo0oa9qjit0va3du8eobrouc8sb23fkko@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:48:59 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>>>>> <malte...@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>>>> >news:f5qrna1pptlcpdp0oinj114p8p2tjf6ufq@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >(snip)
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> When, oh when, will you losers try to support your unfounded
>>>>>>>> >> profession that there is NO God.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >I seriously doubt that you can find anybody who'll claim that
>>>>>>>> >they /know/
>>>>>>>> >there is no God.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's what I've been saying all along. ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>(It might be the second time this post appears)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've seen it lots of times.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>So have atheists. It's only theists like you who claim, that
>>>>>>>atheists say they /know/ God doesn't exist.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that agnostics are actually what you atheist wannabe's are
>>>>>> trying to claim - that you simply just not a believer.  In facts,
>>>>>> you are trying to deny the existence of God.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?
>>>> 
>>>> You don't need to deny it.  We see it and have it.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the admission that it doesn't exist.
>> 
>> You fuzzy brains are always receiving insult as compliment.
>
>You shitty-brained theists never admit your errors.
> 
>>>>>>>> ... That takes knowledge that no man possesses. ...
>>>>>>>And so does knowing that God does exist.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have the evidence based on his impact on our surroundings, like
>>>>>> creation of all things.
>>>> 
>>>>>Merely your stupid, unevidenced, unsubstanciated belief.
>>>>>Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>>> 
>>>> You can't see electricity or gravity either.  Yet they both exist. 
>>>> How do we know?  Because, like God, we know of their presence by the
>>>> effects on that which is our environment and surroundings..
>> 
>>>We can measure both electricity and gravity. How do you measure your
>>>god.
>>>Have you a godmeter?
>> 
>> No you can't. 
>
>Then how does my electricity supplier know how much I've used?

He doesn't.  He charges you an amount to match how many times your meter wheel
went around.  All he's doing is a comparison with plant/fuel/other expenses and
correlates it to a meter. That's all it is.  A correlation.

><snip bullshit>
>> Even gravity can't be determined without a huge gravitational constant
>> applied.
>But we can still measure it.

No, you can't.  The gravitational constant Is a huge fudge factor in the
equation.
 
>> And so we determine the presence of God by his attributes - supreme
>> creator occupying no space or time..

>Thanks for agreeing that your supposed god character cannot be measured in 
>any way, almost as if it doesn't exist.

That's right, God cannot be measures.  But it's a guarantee that God created us.

>>>>>>>> ... Hence, with no evidence, the best you guys can say is that you
>>>>>>>> don't believe, like in you don't believe the evidence that is
>>>>>>>> available to us all.
>>>>>>>Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do.
>>>>>> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from.
>>>> 
>>>>>You hide that evidence from us and merely show your beliefs.
>>>> 
>>>> When you sick a hairpin in a electrical socket, you can say you just
>>>> tripped.
>> 
>>>Thanks for admitting that you hide that evidence from us and merely show
>>>your beliefs.
>> And yours that there is no god.

>But I know, and can prove, there are some claimed gods. I don't believe in 
>any of them. Where is my claim that there are no gods, liar?

Sure there are some other claimed gods.  Anything that you let totally take over
your life is your (g), lie a bottle of booze, food, gambling, porn, etc.

Are you a porn freak?

>>>>>>>> >Personally, I settle for a 99,99999% certainty that it is so. I
>>>>>>>> >/believe/ that God doesn't exist.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Finally, you are an agnostic.  There's no such thing as a
>>>>>>>> legitimate atheist.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in gods. I'm one of them,
>>>>>>>and I promise you I'm as legit as it gets.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, an atheist, or atheist wannabe, chooses to deny/reject  the
>>>>>> existence of God.
>>>> 
>>>>>Why would I need to deny something that you haven't shown to exist?
>>>> 
>>>> You're shook up Because you can't see what we see.
>> 
>>>Why would I be shook up for not seeing something that is supposedly
>>>invisible? Your evidence for it is also invisible.
 
>> Show me a bucket of electricity or a pint of gravity.
>Show me that you're sane.

Here I am, justa kicking your ass.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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