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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 19:04 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-05 20:45 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 12:46 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-06 07:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 14:01 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 23:19 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:28 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:14 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:05 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:36 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 12:10 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-10 18:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 04:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-12 20:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 19:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 04:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-13 13:37 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:21 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 20:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 03:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 05:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 12:25 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 07:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 21:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:09 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 21:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 05:14 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 09:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-14 07:49 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 22:40 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-13 10:42 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-10 12:16 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:01 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 10:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:13 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:45 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:24 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 22:50 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:23 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-08 20:01 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 21:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 18:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 21:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-08 22:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 06:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-09 10:32 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:42 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 18:56 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:52 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:18 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-11 11:12 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:54 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 22:59 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 04:17 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-13 10:40 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:03 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:54 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:59 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 23:29 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 19:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-08 00:16 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:27 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-09 02:50 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 12:24 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 19:31 +0200
"duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-10 10:39 -0700
Re: "duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 17:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:24 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-06 06:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 12:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:31 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 01:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 05:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 07:22 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 07:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 20:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:28 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:29 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:32 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 08:54 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:26 -0400
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-11 17:02 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: "duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape. |
| Message-ID | <oa1kna1i7n9bfkg3h7jac953jgdo33cc0b@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #499240 |
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:39:45 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote: >"duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape. I wonder why he wasted his time on this one. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-11 11:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qbfjnapb4b0jpqsmvk6qdj7qjngcoeg0po@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #499237 |
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 19:31:02 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >news:t2ogna5sq8kfsntokpq8jr533j8nvevk46@4ax.com... >> >> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:24:46 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> wrote: >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >news:38henap30r5ghj1fh3o5lkfjltv5r4qd9q@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 02:50:35 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >> >news:p82bna9fm3c3r50vcc4in2u5nnvlghhfcs@4ax.com... >(snip) > >> >This is silly. You have told us many times, that you follow God because >> >he >> >asks you to. Like here: >> >"Jesus told us we are to follow him... " and here: "I do it because God >> >specifically called for us to follow his Son." IOW God wants us to be >> >good >> >and do good things. The theist wants to do what God wants him to. >> >> I gather you don't know the difference between "ask" and "tell". God >> tells us >> that if we want his kindgom for all eternity, we follow his rules, not >> ours. > >And if we don't follow his rule, we go to Hell. Like all God's little >fascists you call that a 'free choice'. Pretty much. His rule is one of "LOVE". If you can't, you can't get it. >> >If I have done nothing but good things in my life, but have remained an >> >unbeliever, do I still get the flames? This is the important part. Think >> >before you press send. >> >> Romans 1:16-17New International Version (NIV) >> 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that >> brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the >> Gentile. 17 For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a >> righteousness that is by faith from first to last,[a] just as it is >> written: >> “The righteous will live by faith.”[b] >> Footnotes: >> a.Romans 1:17 Or is from faith to faith >> b.Romans 1:17 Hab. 2:4 >> >> <send> >Why are you bringing quotes from the Bible that you know I'll interpret the >wrong way (regardless of what my interpretation might be)? I want you to >answer in your own words. Or 'word'. Yes or no? It's very clear. <send> the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-06-10 23:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlah09$1ha$4@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #499157 |
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:24:46 +0200, Malte Runz wrote: > "duke" skrev i meddelelsen > news:38henap30r5ghj1fh3o5lkfjltv5r4qd9q@4ax.com... >> >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 02:50:35 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> wrote: >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >news:p82bna9fm3c3r50vcc4in2u5nnvlghhfcs@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 00:16:58 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >> >news:qs86naltriaskjhlv7tcs26ueqkj7529u6@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:46:51 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >(snip) >> > >> >> >> >The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A >> >> >> >theist does the same. >> >> >> >Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts >> >> >> >of the two? >> >> > >> >> >(Here it is!) > > (snip) > > >> >The atheist is basically 'guided' by empathy. So is the theist, I >> >believe, >> >but he also believes there is a god that wants him to do good. >> >> Oh, nooooo. ... > > This is silly. You have told us many times, that you follow God because > he asks you to. Like here: > "Jesus told us we are to follow him... " and here: "I do it because God > specifically called for us to follow his Son." IOW God wants us to be > good and do good things. The theist wants to do what God wants him to. > > If your default position is that you have to negate everything I say you > have said, you're going to end up looking pretty stupid. End up?!?!?!. It's too late for that. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-11 11:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ggfjnapevfektj9hf29b7ujpf0ujv32r0e@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #499300 |
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:24:58 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: >On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:24:46 +0200, Malte Runz wrote: > >> "duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> news:38henap30r5ghj1fh3o5lkfjltv5r4qd9q@4ax.com... >>> >>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 02:50:35 +0200, "Malte Runz" >>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >>> >news:p82bna9fm3c3r50vcc4in2u5nnvlghhfcs@4ax.com... >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 00:16:58 +0200, "Malte Runz" >>> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >>> >> >news:qs86naltriaskjhlv7tcs26ueqkj7529u6@4ax.com... >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:46:51 +0200, "Malte Runz" >>> >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >(snip) >>> > >>> >> >> >The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A >>> >> >> >theist does the same. >>> >> >> >Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts >>> >> >> >of the two? >>> >> > >>> >> >(Here it is!) >> >> (snip) >> >> >>> >The atheist is basically 'guided' by empathy. So is the theist, I >>> >believe, >>> >but he also believes there is a god that wants him to do good. >>> >>> Oh, nooooo. ... >> >> This is silly. You have told us many times, that you follow God because >> he asks you to. Like here: >> "Jesus told us we are to follow him... " and here: "I do it because God >> specifically called for us to follow his Son." IOW God wants us to be >> good and do good things. The theist wants to do what God wants him to. >> >> If your default position is that you have to negate everything I say you >> have said, you're going to end up looking pretty stupid. > >End up?!?!?!. >It's too late for that. Wouldn't trade with you two for all the tea in China. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-05 15:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <en24na9av7sao1kccfv8sv8960sajbeij6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #497914 |
On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 07:15:31 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >On 6/3/2015 11:49 AM, duke wrote: >> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:32:50 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >> >>> duke wrote: >>>> Existence mandates creation. >>> >>> Then either your God doesn't exist, or your God was created, or you are >>> lying. >> >> None of the three. We just don't know of God's origin. > > >That's the exact answer *I* give to the question, "How did the universe >begin". Duke, you're almost there. Keep thinking and soon you will come >to understand the truth. It came about as creation. It exists because it was created. What method God used to create the universe, we may never know. >But not to worry. There will be no need to run wild when you realize >there is no god. But there is, and you can't deny creation. >Just act like a decent human being. Do good acts for >there OWN sake. Not out of fear of punishment or loss of reward. I'm sticking with God's instructions. You flame choosers can stick with whatever turns you on. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-06 06:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mkuhe7$3bl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #498007 |
On 6/5/2015 4:50 PM, duke wrote: > >> But not to worry. There will be no need to run wild when you realize >> there is no god. > > But there is, and you can't deny creation. I can and DO deny any 'creation'. The universe exists without any creator. It has ALWAYS existed without any creator. Then 13.7 billion years ago, for reasons unknown and probably unknowable, it began to expand/inflate. >> Just act like a decent human being. Do good acts for >> there OWN sake. Not out of fear of punishment or loss of reward. > > I'm sticking with God's instructions. You flame choosers can stick with > whatever turns you on. I choose the truth. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-06 11:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <b596na9jtn6i6fsg3vhsegd0kn0tiqbg1r@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #498126 |
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:20:32 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >On 6/5/2015 4:50 PM, duke wrote: >> >>> But not to worry. There will be no need to run wild when you realize >>> there is no god. >> >> But there is, and you can't deny creation. > > >I can and DO deny any 'creation'. So show me the money. >The universe exists without any >creator. Can't. Existence mandates creation. It has ALWAYS existed without any creator. Then 13.7 billion >years ago, for reasons unknown and probably unknowable, it began to >expand/inflate. But there was NOTHING THERE to inflate. >>> Just act like a decent human being. Do good acts for >>> there OWN sake. Not out of fear of punishment or loss of reward. >> >> I'm sticking with God's instructions. You flame choosers can stick with >> whatever turns you on. >I choose the truth. But not God's truth. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> |
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| Date | 2015-06-06 12:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <gf96nahha5odvd4g6qot2pal8bang3q4d2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #498185 |
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:51:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: >On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:20:32 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: > >>On 6/5/2015 4:50 PM, duke wrote: >>> >>>> But not to worry. There will be no need to run wild when you realize >>>> there is no god. >>> >>> But there is, and you can't deny creation. >> >> >>I can and DO deny any 'creation'. > >So show me the money. > >>The universe exists without any >>creator. > >Can't. Existence mandates creation. > Does your god exist? Don't fall for their propaganda. Guns do kill people.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-07 09:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <gal8na5so9cgrfnpjgggsqev57jg5d62b9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #498190 |
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:55:30 -0400, Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> wrote: >On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:51:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: > >>On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:20:32 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>On 6/5/2015 4:50 PM, duke wrote: >>>> >>>>> But not to worry. There will be no need to run wild when you realize >>>>> there is no god. >>>> >>>> But there is, and you can't deny creation. >>> >>> >>>I can and DO deny any 'creation'. >> >>So show me the money. >> >>>The universe exists without any >>>creator. >> >>Can't. Existence mandates creation. >Does your god exist? Absolutely, according to the evidence I have. >Don't fall for their propaganda. Guns do kill people. Actually, it's not the trigger on the gun that's dangerous, it's the finger on the trigger. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-07 05:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ml14cd$muj$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #498185 |
On 6/6/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote: > >> The universe exists without any >> creator. > > Can't. Existence mandates creation. Does god exist.....? I win! I win again! -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-07 09:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3dl8napv05kjnk7kq46hiqm61i2cshtbpc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #498359 |
On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 05:55:50 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >On 6/6/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote: >> >>> The universe exists without any >>> creator. >> >> Can't. Existence mandates creation. >Does god exist.....? Yep. >I win! I win again! Yep. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-07 12:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ml1r48$481$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #498407 |
On 6/7/2015 10:31 AM, duke wrote: > >>>> The universe exists without any >>>> creator. >>> >>> Can't. Existence mandates creation. > >> Does god exist.....? > > Yep. > >> I win! I win again! > > Yep. You can NEVER beat me Duke. I was trained in logic and debate by Jesuit priests of the catholic religion. Not only am I smarter than you and more highly trained than you...I am just BETTER than you. You mad? -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-08 01:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <hC9dx.32522$iI1.18764@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #498359 |
On 06/07/2015 05:55 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 6/6/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>> The universe exists without any
>>> creator.
>>
>> Can't. Existence mandates creation.
>
>
> Does god exist.....?
Does the universe exist?
> I win! I win again!
Born loser. Worked at Fenway park? Now that's the job for a person who
knows it all about science and God!
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-08 05:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ml3li6$kli$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #498576 |
On 6/8/2015 1:20 AM, benj wrote: > On 06/07/2015 05:55 AM, HVAC wrote: >> On 6/6/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote: >>> >>>> The universe exists without any >>>> creator. >>> >>> Can't. Existence mandates creation. >> >> >> Does god exist.....? > > Does the universe exist? > >> I win! I win again! > > Born loser. Worked at Fenway park? Now that's the job for a person who > knows it all about science and God! I was born sans silver spoon. I worked for everything I now have. You mad BJ? -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-08 07:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <sVedx.76269$eq4.53274@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #498608 |
On 06/08/2015 05:01 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 6/8/2015 1:20 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 06/07/2015 05:55 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>> On 6/6/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The universe exists without any
>>>>> creator.
>>>>
>>>> Can't. Existence mandates creation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does god exist.....?
>>
>> Does the universe exist?
>>
>>> I win! I win again!
>>
>> Born loser. Worked at Fenway park? Now that's the job for a person who
>> knows it all about science and God!
>
>
> I was born sans silver spoon. I worked for everything I now have.
>
> You mad BJ?
>
>
And after all that work you end up becoming a ghost just the same as
Herb, with nothing to show for it!
You mad hardblow?
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-08 07:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ml3usl$mda$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #498617 |
On 6/8/2015 7:22 AM, benj wrote: > >>> Born loser. Worked at Fenway park? Now that's the job for a person who >>> knows it all about science and God! >> >> >> I was born sans silver spoon. I worked for everything I now have. >> >> You mad BJ? >> >> > And after all that work you end up becoming a ghost just the same as > Herb, with nothing to show for it! I have EVERYTHING! In my life I never sought the pursuit of material possessions. I was all about raising my children as best I could. THEIR happiness was paramount to me. Since my youngest is now 23, my work is done as far as raising them go. They turned out well. All have graduated college. None were ever brought home by the police. Maybe I set the bar low, but I call that a win. Now I look around and here I am in this HUGE house with just Felony and I living here. I consider moving, but I can't be arsed. The house is paid for and I just pay taxes and maintenance these days. I am by no means rich, but I have enough money that I will never have to worry about it. I spend my days in idle contemplation of my navel or I am out fishing. LONG ass days of fishing. My best friend and lifelong fishing buddy retired within a few months of ME retiring, ensuring I will have company on my 10-12 hours a day fishing trips. Literally I love being outdoors. The things we get to see, the scenery, the wildlife... This year we are going to all new places. There are some truly spectacular lakes in NH. The water is so clear we cast to visible fish. It's like an aquarium. I really can't think of anything I would rather be doing. If I could, that's what I'd be doing. Obviously. So to reiterate, I have EVERYTHING! -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-08 20:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <q4qdx.26923$xK5.13159@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #498620 |
On 06/08/2015 07:40 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 6/8/2015 7:22 AM, benj wrote:
>>
>>>> Born loser. Worked at Fenway park? Now that's the job for a person who
>>>> knows it all about science and God!
>>>
>>>
>>> I was born sans silver spoon. I worked for everything I now have.
>>>
>>> You mad BJ?
>>>
>>>
>> And after all that work you end up becoming a ghost just the same as
>> Herb, with nothing to show for it!
>
>
> I have EVERYTHING!
>
> In my life I never sought the pursuit of material possessions. I was all
> about raising my children as best I could. THEIR happiness was paramount
> to me. Since my youngest is now 23, my work is done as far as raising
> them go. They turned out well. All have graduated college. None were
> ever brought home by the police. Maybe I set the bar low, but I call
> that a win. Now I look around and here I am in this HUGE house with just
> Felony and I living here. I consider moving, but I can't be arsed. The
> house is paid for and I just pay taxes and maintenance these days. I am
> by no means rich, but I have enough money that I will never have to
> worry about it. I spend my days in idle contemplation of my navel or I
> am out fishing. LONG ass days of fishing. My best friend and lifelong
> fishing buddy retired within a few months of ME retiring, ensuring I
> will have company on my 10-12 hours a day fishing trips.
> Literally I love being outdoors. The things we get to see, the scenery,
> the wildlife... This year we are going to all new places. There are some
> truly spectacular lakes in NH. The water is so clear we cast to visible
> fish. It's like an aquarium. I really can't think of anything I would
> rather be doing. If I could, that's what I'd be doing. Obviously.
>
> So to reiterate, I have EVERYTHING!
>
>
>
I love hearing of a man of such faith that he spent his whole life
trying to get close to God!
You mad?
Hey, *I* was brought home once or twice by police...
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-08 07:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2j2bna9lg3sda1sgdbgi7kgljkc0qqpnf5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #498608 |
On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 05:01:38 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >On 6/8/2015 1:20 AM, benj wrote: >> On 06/07/2015 05:55 AM, HVAC wrote: >>> On 6/6/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote: >>>> >>>>> The universe exists without any >>>>> creator. >>>> >>>> Can't. Existence mandates creation. >>> >>> >>> Does god exist.....? >> >> Does the universe exist? >> >>> I win! I win again! >> >> Born loser. Worked at Fenway park? Now that's the job for a person who >> knows it all about science and God! > > >I was born sans silver spoon. I worked for everything I now have. Most of us do. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-06-08 22:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ml550k$p46$5@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #498576 |
On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 01:20:13 -0400, benj wrote: > On 06/07/2015 05:55 AM, HVAC wrote: >> On 6/6/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote: >>> >>>> The universe exists without any creator. >>> >>> Can't. Existence mandates creation. >> >> >> Does god exist.....? > > Does the universe exist? I'll take that as a yes. If existence mandates creation and your supposed god exists, why, when and how was your god character created? >> I win! I win again! > > Born loser. Worked at Fenway park? Now that's the job for a person who > knows it all about science and God! -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-07 05:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ml14ff$muj$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #498185 |
On 6/6/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote: > >>> I'm sticking with God's instructions. You flame choosers can stick with >>> whatever turns you on. > >> I choose the truth. > > But not God's truth. Truth is truth. But parsing words is the playground of the religious freak innit Duke. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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