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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 06:52 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:28 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 16:33 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:19 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-06 10:58 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:39 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 09:21 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:54 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 16:19 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 13:34 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 23:11 +0000
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-07 18:08 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Claude <nobogrfshrtdy@nospam.net> - 2015-06-07 21:23 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 18:33 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 23:26 +0000

#497927 — Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-05 06:52 -0700
SubjectRe: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Message-ID<mks9jg8513@news6.newsguy.com>
duke wrote:
> Well, when you live the right, or wrong. lifestyle, you're pretty much telling
> God which way you want to go.

Why does God have to glean which way you want to go from your lifestyle? 
  I thought he was omniscient.

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#498032

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-05 16:28 -0500
Message-ID<p254na5g87qjihivh9uoro1s6e8a0jqtvs@4ax.com>
In reply to#497927
On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:52:39 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> Well, when you live the right, or wrong. lifestyle, you're pretty much telling
>> God which way you want to go.
>
>Why does God have to glean which way you want to go from your lifestyle? 
>  I thought he was omniscient.

Sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.  God said that.  Rev 21:27.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#498070

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-05 16:33 -0700
Message-ID<mktbl60lh5@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#498032
On 06/05/2015 02:28 PM, duke wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:52:39 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> Well, when you live the right, or wrong. lifestyle, you're pretty much telling
>>> God which way you want to go.
>>
>> Why does God have to glean which way you want to go from your lifestyle?
>>   I thought he was omniscient.
>
> Sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.  God said that.  Rev 21:27.

Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire. He 
goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17 Paul 
called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter the 
kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.

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#498223

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-06 12:19 -0500
Message-ID<cta6nahgm614g9acdlpmsfmjc9ikk4mjap@4ax.com>
In reply to#498070
On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:33:06 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 06/05/2015 02:28 PM, duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:52:39 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> duke wrote:
>>>> Well, when you live the right, or wrong. lifestyle, you're pretty much telling
>>>> God which way you want to go.
>>>
>>> Why does God have to glean which way you want to go from your lifestyle?
>>>   I thought he was omniscient.
>>
>> Sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.  God said that.  Rev 21:27.
>
>Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire. He 
>goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17 Paul 
>called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter the 
>kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.

They both went to confession.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#498231

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-06 10:58 -0700
Message-ID<mkvcdj01ks6@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#498223
duke wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:33:06 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>
>> Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire. He
>> goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17 Paul
>> called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter the
>> kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.
>
> They both went to confession.

Sure, but so much for the idea of Jesus being without sin.

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#498430

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-07 10:39 -0500
Message-ID<e4p8nap09r6pa8dgmkaq26kcrpeb7eb0qp@4ax.com>
In reply to#498231
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:58:34 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:33:06 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire. He
>>> goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17 Paul
>>> called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter the
>>> kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.
>>
>> They both went to confession.

>Sure, but so much for the idea of Jesus being without sin.

Mat 23:17 - Fools are those that think gold is holy.
Gal 3:1 - Paul called them foolish for following the law.

Anything else you'd like to suggest?

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#498440

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-07 09:21 -0700
Message-ID<ml1r1k3182e@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#498430
duke wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:58:34 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>
>> >duke wrote:
>>> >>On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:33:06 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>> >>
>>>> >>>Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire. He
>>>> >>>goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17 Paul
>>>> >>>called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter the
>>>> >>>kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.
>>> >>
>>> >>They both went to confession.
>> >Sure, but so much for the idea of Jesus being without sin.
> Mat 23:17 - Fools are those that think gold is holy.
> Gal 3:1 - Paul called them foolish for following the law.
>
> Anything else you'd like to suggest?

No, I think that pretty much sums up the hypocrisy of Jesus and Paul.

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#498511

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-07 17:54 -0500
Message-ID<uoi9nadorq274482532oemlprugll0kcv2@4ax.com>
In reply to#498440
On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:21:12 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:58:34 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> >duke wrote:
>>>> >>On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:33:06 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire. He
>>>>> >>>goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17 Paul
>>>>> >>>called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter the
>>>>> >>>kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>They both went to confession.
>>> >Sure, but so much for the idea of Jesus being without sin.
>> Mat 23:17 - Fools are those that think gold is holy.
>> Gal 3:1 - Paul called them foolish for following the law.
>>
>> Anything else you'd like to suggest?
>
>No, I think that pretty much sums up the hypocrisy of Jesus and Paul.

You worship gold as your (g)od?  Wow, I thought that went out when Moses came
down from the mountain.  I guess some people never learn.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#498523

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-07 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<ml2jl51ea0@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#498511
duke wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:21:12 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> Mat 23:17 - Fools are those that think gold is holy.
>>> Gal 3:1 - Paul called them foolish for following the law.
>>
>> I think that pretty much sums up the hypocrisy of Jesus and Paul.
>
> You worship gold as your (g)od?

Says who?

> Wow, I thought that went out when Moses came
> down from the mountain.  I guess some people never learn.

Strawman.

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#498727

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-08 13:34 -0500
Message-ID<80obnal6gf9lnbeoq89agkj2j5f65dsqj6@4ax.com>
In reply to#498523
On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 16:19:57 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:21:12 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> duke wrote:
>>>> Mat 23:17 - Fools are those that think gold is holy.
>>>> Gal 3:1 - Paul called them foolish for following the law.
>>>
>>> I think that pretty much sums up the hypocrisy of Jesus and Paul.
>>
>> You worship gold as your (g)od?
>
>Says who?
>
>> Wow, I thought that went out when Moses came
>> down from the mountain.  I guess some people never learn.
>
>Strawman.

Swoosh - right over your head.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#498522

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-07 23:11 +0000
Message-ID<ml2j2n$foq$9@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#498223
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:19:52 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:33:06 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> 
>>On 06/05/2015 02:28 PM, duke wrote:
>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:52:39 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> duke wrote:
>>>>> Well, when you live the right, or wrong. lifestyle, you're pretty
>>>>> much telling God which way you want to go.
>>>>
>>>> Why does God have to glean which way you want to go from your
>>>> lifestyle?
>>>>   I thought he was omniscient.
>>>
>>> Sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.  God said that.  Rev 21:27.
>>
>>Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire. He
>>goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17 Paul
>>called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter the
>>kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.
> 
> They both went to confession.

Which church and what priest heard their confessions, puke?

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#498539

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-06-07 18:08 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-3F67A9.18084407062015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#498522
In article <ml2j2n$foq$9@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> 
wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:19:52 -0500, duke wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:33:06 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> > 
> >>On 06/05/2015 02:28 PM, duke wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:52:39 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> duke wrote:
> >>>>> Well, when you live the right, or wrong. lifestyle, you're pretty
> >>>>> much telling God which way you want to go.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why does God have to glean which way you want to go from your
> >>>> lifestyle?
> >>>>   I thought he was omniscient.
> >>>
> >>> Sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.  God said that.  Rev 21:27.
> >>
> >>Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire. He
> >>goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17 Paul
> >>called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter the
> >>kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.
> > 
> > They both went to confession.
> 
> Which church and what priest heard their confessions, puke?


Wait! Did poor poor dukie just say that "confession" existed in early 
1st century Palestine????

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#498544

FromClaude <nobogrfshrtdy@nospam.net>
Date2015-06-07 21:23 -0400
Message-ID<ml2qug$1ts$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#498539
Jeanne Douglas wrote :
> Wait! Did poor poor dukie just say that "confession" existed in early
> 1st century Palestine????

The middle esat is what we should be fighting for.  It's the home of 
Christianity, Judiasm and Islam.

That's why 2% of the world's people who can't get along, are why you 
should enlst in the miltary and be willig to die for the cause.

Unless you're one of those pathetic Israeli draftees, who don't know 
how to shoot their way out of a barn.   Or an Orthdox Jew, who refuses 
to fight for Israel.


Most Israeli soldiers are fucking conscripts.   Real army's have 
volunteers.

That's why Canada's military was the best in WW2.

No Conscripts = No Cowards.


Say!  Where wsa Israel during the Iraq and Afganistan wars?

Too busy sitting on their asses?

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#498547

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-07 18:33 -0700
Message-ID<ml2re40tf3@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#498539
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article<ml2j2n$foq$9@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler<smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
>
>> >On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:19:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>> >
>>> > >On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:33:06 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>> > >
>>>> > >>On 06/05/2015 02:28 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>> > >>>Sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.  God said that.  Rev 21:27.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire. He
>>>> > >>goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17 Paul
>>>> > >>called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter the
>>>> > >>kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.
>>> > >
>>> > >They both went to confession.
>> >
>> >Which church and what priest heard their confessions, puke?
>
> Wait! Did poor poor dukie just say that "confession" existed in early
> 1st century Palestine????

That's what alt.atheism is all about, a raw display of how brilliant 
atheists are and how dumb Christians are.

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#498786

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-08 23:26 +0000
Message-ID<ml58a9$p46$12@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#498539
On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:08:44 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

> In article <ml2j2n$foq$9@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:19:52 -0500, duke wrote:
>> 
>> > On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:33:06 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> >>On 06/05/2015 02:28 PM, duke wrote:
>> >>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:52:39 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> duke wrote:
>> >>>>> Well, when you live the right, or wrong. lifestyle, you're pretty
>> >>>>> much telling God which way you want to go.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Why does God have to glean which way you want to go from your
>> >>>> lifestyle?
>> >>>>   I thought he was omniscient.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.  God said that.  Rev 21:27.
>> >>
>> >>Jesus said whoever says, "Thou Fool" shall be in danger of hell fire.
>> >>He goes on to call the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17
>> >>Paul called the Galatians foolish in Gal. 3:1. So if sin cannot enter
>> >>the kingdom of God, that means Jesus and Paul are not in heaven.
>> > 
>> > They both went to confession.
>> 
>> Which church and what priest heard their confessions, puke?
> 
> Wait! Did poor poor dukie just say that "confession" existed in early
> 1st century Palestine????

He sure did. That's why I asked the question. 
Is there no limit to his ignorance?

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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