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Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?

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  Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-05-31 08:54 -0400
    Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-31 08:30 -0700
      Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? "Trollnot2015" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-05-31 13:03 -0500
    Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-31 12:31 -0400
    Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-05-31 14:04 -0400
    Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? "a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2015-06-04 11:49 -0700
      Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-04 20:49 -0400
      Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 06:09 -0400
        Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:51 -0400
        Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 08:55 -0400
        Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 10:40 -0400

#496727 — Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-05-31 08:54 -0400
SubjectRe: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?
Message-ID<mkf06t$t8r$1@dont-email.me>
On 5/31/2015 8:32 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already
>>
>> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of
>> astrobiological/SETI thinking. And while it might seem pretty
>> abstract and inconsequential to our day-to-day existence, within
>> Fermi's paradox there lies a terrible possibility that haunts the
>> fate of humanity.
>
>    Read this very good article at:
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already


An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward 
and Donald Brownlee.

And of course, Von Neumann did much speculative work in this area.


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HAIL HYDRA!
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#496757

FromHägar <hsahm@yahoo.com>
Date2015-05-31 08:30 -0700
Message-ID<1e037$556b29c1$453ebb0b$21220@EVERESTKC.NET>
In reply to#496727
"HVAC"  wrote in message news:mkf06t$t8r$1@dont-email.me...

On 5/31/2015 8:32 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already
>>
>> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of
>> astrobiological/SETI thinking. And while it might seem pretty
>> abstract and inconsequential to our day-to-day existence, within
>> Fermi's paradox there lies a terrible possibility that haunts the
>> fate of humanity.
>
>    Read this very good article at:
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already


An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward
and Donald Brownlee.

And of course, Von Neumann did much speculative work in this area.



*** Or perhaps they were here and read some of your posts,
HardBlow, and came to the conclusion that there is no ....
I'll let you figure out the rest ... 

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#496821

From"Trollnot2015" <notroll2015@charter.net>
Date2015-05-31 13:03 -0500
Message-ID<mkfie8$9i5$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#496757

"Hägar"  wrote in message 
news:1e037$556b29c1$453ebb0b$21220@EVERESTKC.NET...

"HVAC"  wrote in message news:mkf06t$t8r$1@dont-email.me...

On 5/31/2015 8:32 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already
>>
>> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of
>> astrobiological/SETI thinking. And while it might seem pretty
>> abstract and inconsequential to our day-to-day existence, within
>> Fermi's paradox there lies a terrible possibility that haunts the
>> fate of humanity.
>
>    Read this very good article at:
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already


An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward
and Donald Brownlee.

And of course, Von Neumann did much speculative work in this area.



*** Or perhaps they were here and read some of your posts,
HardBlow, and came to the conclusion that there is no ....
I'll let you figure out the rest ...

**************************
They are here residing in your trailer park where their strange appearance 
and unusual odor blend right in. 

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#496775

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-05-31 12:31 -0400
Message-ID<WHGax.24667$yP4.1183@fx04.iad>
In reply to#496727
On 05/31/2015 08:54 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 5/31/2015 8:32 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already
>>>
>>>
>>> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of
>>> astrobiological/SETI thinking. And while it might seem pretty
>>> abstract and inconsequential to our day-to-day existence, within
>>> Fermi's paradox there lies a terrible possibility that haunts the
>>> fate of humanity.
>>
>>    Read this very good article at:
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already
>>>
>
>
> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward
> and Donald Brownlee.
>
> And of course, Von Neumann did much speculative work in this area.
>
>
Any book recommended by HVAC is certainly wrong and probably propaganda. 
In other words PERFECT for Sam Wormley!

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#496822

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-05-31 14:04 -0400
Message-ID<mkficg$td3$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#496727
On 5/31/2015 9:36 AM, john wrote:
> "Sons of the Son" by Marcel Homet chronicles a 20,000 year old
> society in South America whose petroglyphs show that they had
> dealings with HUMANS who came from the sky.
>
>
> THOUSANDS of people have since spoken of, taken pictures of, and
> provided other evidence of these craft, but the EVIL that lives here
> brands all these people as kooks, liars and hoaxers


...And gay. Don't forget the gay part, John.



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Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
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#497801

From"a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com>
Date2015-06-04 11:49 -0700
Message-ID<mkq6md0286b@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#496727
"HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in message...
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already
>>> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of
>>> astrobiological/SETI thinking. --- 
>
> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and 
> Donald Brownlee.

Talk about serendipity!  I read this post.  Then last night
events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting
and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the
next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store).
There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by
Peter Ward  and Donald Brownlee.
I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it.
Thanks for the suggestion.

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#497868

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-04 20:49 -0400
Message-ID<mkqrjg$sjm$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#497801
On 6/4/2015 2:49 PM, a425couple wrote:
> "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in message...
>> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?
>>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already
>>>>
>>>> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of
>>>> astrobiological/SETI thinking. ---
>>
>> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward
>> and Donald Brownlee.
>
> Talk about serendipity!  I read this post.  Then last night
> events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting
> and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the
> next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store).
> There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by
> Peter Ward  and Donald Brownlee.
> I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it.
> Thanks for the suggestion.


It's a cold slap of reality.


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#499762

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-13 06:09 -0400
Message-ID<mlgvcd$hii$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#497801
On 6/12/2015 7:47 PM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote:
>
>>> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and
>>> Donald Brownlee.
>>
>> Talk about serendipity!  I read this post.  Then last night
>> events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting
>> and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the
>> next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store).
>> There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by
>> Peter Ward  and Donald Brownlee.
>> I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it.
>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>
 >
> Aliens came and went.Earth is a microbe planet,and the aliens had no
> way of copping . They were in their space suits when out of their
> spaceship. Also their planet had the gravity of Saturn. They did show
> cave men how to build big and heavy stuff.How to bake bread .How to
> grow corn,and make beer. Bert


Kill me now



-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#499807

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-13 13:51 -0400
Message-ID<d4_ex.72034$7M3.47842@fx06.iad>
In reply to#499762
On 06/13/2015 06:09 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 6/12/2015 7:47 PM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote:
>>
>>>> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter
>>>> Ward and
>>>> Donald Brownlee.
>>>
>>> Talk about serendipity!  I read this post.  Then last night
>>> events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting
>>> and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the
>>> next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store).
>>> There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by
>>> Peter Ward  and Donald Brownlee.
>>> I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it.
>>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>  >
>> Aliens came and went.Earth is a microbe planet,and the aliens had no
>> way of copping . They were in their space suits when out of their
>> spaceship. Also their planet had the gravity of Saturn. They did show
>> cave men how to build big and heavy stuff.How to bake bread .How to
>> grow corn,and make beer. Bert
>
>
> Kill me now
>

Amen! (Sorry for the religious word, Harlow...you'll just have to suck 
it up)






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#499934

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-14 08:55 -0400
Message-ID<mljthh$pk5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#499762
On 6/14/2015 8:04 AM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 3:08:29 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
>> On 6/12/2015 7:47 PM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote:
>>>
>>>>> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and
>>>>> Donald Brownlee.
>>>>
>>>> Talk about serendipity!  I read this post.  Then last night
>>>> events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting
>>>> and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the
>>>> next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store).
>>>> There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by
>>>> Peter Ward  and Donald Brownlee.
>>>> I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it.
>>>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>
>    Just a rehash of the Drake equation. We haven't nailed down the values of many of its factors well enough (some, at all) to seriously plan on building a defense against alien invasion or anything. Yet.


Oh, you read it?


>> Kill me now
>
>    Relax, it's no worse than Scientology. You survived knowing about that.


Scientology is exactly as kooky as any other religion.
No more, no less.

Just that it's more of a sci-fi religion than some of the others which 
are based upon horror stories, human sacrifice, and cannibalism.



>    Ever notice how many religions and cults are about how stupid humans are, and how ET(s)/deity/deities either created us stupid, or found us and decided to enslave and/or elevate us while still leaving us stupid?
>
>    Religious types have a paradoxical humility problem; they have a low opinion of "arrogant" humanity in general but a high opinion of themselves because they're In On the real Truth.
>
>    Me, I think we're all, every one of us, partly genius and the rest idiot. I mean, look at the world. On the one hand some of us are constantly pushing to understand more and build a better world, and some of us are STILL trying to forcibly share ancient circumscribed belief systems based on fear.
>
>    We have anti-gay politicians being busted for child molestation, we have hackers blowing whistles on governments.
>
>    Obviously, if anyone's sekritly in charge, they're completely incompetent.
>
>
>    Mark L. Fergerson


Interesting



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Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
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#499961

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-14 10:40 -0400
Message-ID<mlk3ld$foh$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#499762
On 6/14/2015 9:35 AM, benj wrote:
>
>> Obviously, if anyone's sekritly in charge, they're completely
>> incompetent.
>
> Harlow been teaching you tradecraft again?  Yeah, that's right. All
> anyone knows is what they read in the papers. Those in charge are
> incompetent and dumb. Economics is too boring to be worthwhile. Yada
> Yada Yada. Obviously you are either lying or have never met any of those
> "sekritly" in charge.


Aka: Overlords


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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