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Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-05-31 08:54 -0400
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-31 08:30 -0700
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? "Trollnot2015" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-05-31 13:03 -0500
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-31 12:31 -0400
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-05-31 14:04 -0400
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? "a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2015-06-04 11:49 -0700
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-04 20:49 -0400
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 06:09 -0400
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:51 -0400
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 08:55 -0400
Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 10:40 -0400
| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-05-31 08:54 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? |
| Message-ID | <mkf06t$t8r$1@dont-email.me> |
On 5/31/2015 8:32 AM, Sam Wormley wrote: > Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? >> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already >> >> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of >> astrobiological/SETI thinking. And while it might seem pretty >> abstract and inconsequential to our day-to-day existence, within >> Fermi's paradox there lies a terrible possibility that haunts the >> fate of humanity. > > Read this very good article at: >> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee. And of course, Von Neumann did much speculative work in this area. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-05-31 08:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1e037$556b29c1$453ebb0b$21220@EVERESTKC.NET> |
| In reply to | #496727 |
"HVAC" wrote in message news:mkf06t$t8r$1@dont-email.me... On 5/31/2015 8:32 AM, Sam Wormley wrote: > Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? >> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already >> >> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of >> astrobiological/SETI thinking. And while it might seem pretty >> abstract and inconsequential to our day-to-day existence, within >> Fermi's paradox there lies a terrible possibility that haunts the >> fate of humanity. > > Read this very good article at: >> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee. And of course, Von Neumann did much speculative work in this area. *** Or perhaps they were here and read some of your posts, HardBlow, and came to the conclusion that there is no .... I'll let you figure out the rest ...
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| From | "Trollnot2015" <notroll2015@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2015-05-31 13:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mkfie8$9i5$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #496757 |
"Hägar" wrote in message news:1e037$556b29c1$453ebb0b$21220@EVERESTKC.NET... "HVAC" wrote in message news:mkf06t$t8r$1@dont-email.me... On 5/31/2015 8:32 AM, Sam Wormley wrote: > Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? >> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already >> >> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of >> astrobiological/SETI thinking. And while it might seem pretty >> abstract and inconsequential to our day-to-day existence, within >> Fermi's paradox there lies a terrible possibility that haunts the >> fate of humanity. > > Read this very good article at: >> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee. And of course, Von Neumann did much speculative work in this area. *** Or perhaps they were here and read some of your posts, HardBlow, and came to the conclusion that there is no .... I'll let you figure out the rest ... ************************** They are here residing in your trailer park where their strange appearance and unusual odor blend right in.
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-05-31 12:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <WHGax.24667$yP4.1183@fx04.iad> |
| In reply to | #496727 |
On 05/31/2015 08:54 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 5/31/2015 8:32 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already?
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already
>>>
>>>
>>> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of
>>> astrobiological/SETI thinking. And while it might seem pretty
>>> abstract and inconsequential to our day-to-day existence, within
>>> Fermi's paradox there lies a terrible possibility that haunts the
>>> fate of humanity.
>>
>> Read this very good article at:
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already
>>>
>
>
> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward
> and Donald Brownlee.
>
> And of course, Von Neumann did much speculative work in this area.
>
>
Any book recommended by HVAC is certainly wrong and probably propaganda.
In other words PERFECT for Sam Wormley!
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-05-31 14:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mkficg$td3$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #496727 |
On 5/31/2015 9:36 AM, john wrote: > "Sons of the Son" by Marcel Homet chronicles a 20,000 year old > society in South America whose petroglyphs show that they had > dealings with HUMANS who came from the sky. > > > THOUSANDS of people have since spoken of, taken pictures of, and > provided other evidence of these craft, but the EVIL that lives here > brands all these people as kooks, liars and hoaxers ...And gay. Don't forget the gay part, John. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | "a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 11:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mkq6md0286b@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #496727 |
"HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in message... > Sam Wormley wrote: >> Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? >>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already >>> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of >>> astrobiological/SETI thinking. --- > > An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and > Donald Brownlee. Talk about serendipity! I read this post. Then last night events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store). There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee. I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it. Thanks for the suggestion.
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 20:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mkqrjg$sjm$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #497801 |
On 6/4/2015 2:49 PM, a425couple wrote: > "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in message... >> Sam Wormley wrote: >>> Why Aren't The Aliens Here Already? >>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/27/409670639/why-arent-the-aliens-here-already >>>> >>>> This question, known as "Fermi's paradox," is now a staple of >>>> astrobiological/SETI thinking. --- >> >> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward >> and Donald Brownlee. > > Talk about serendipity! I read this post. Then last night > events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting > and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the > next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store). > There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by > Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee. > I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it. > Thanks for the suggestion. It's a cold slap of reality. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-13 06:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mlgvcd$hii$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #497801 |
On 6/12/2015 7:47 PM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote: > >>> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and >>> Donald Brownlee. >> >> Talk about serendipity! I read this post. Then last night >> events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting >> and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the >> next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store). >> There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by >> Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee. >> I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it. >> Thanks for the suggestion. > > > Aliens came and went.Earth is a microbe planet,and the aliens had no > way of copping . They were in their space suits when out of their > spaceship. Also their planet had the gravity of Saturn. They did show > cave men how to build big and heavy stuff.How to bake bread .How to > grow corn,and make beer. Bert Kill me now -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-13 13:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <d4_ex.72034$7M3.47842@fx06.iad> |
| In reply to | #499762 |
On 06/13/2015 06:09 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 6/12/2015 7:47 PM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote:
>>
>>>> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter
>>>> Ward and
>>>> Donald Brownlee.
>>>
>>> Talk about serendipity! I read this post. Then last night
>>> events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting
>>> and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the
>>> next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store).
>>> There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by
>>> Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee.
>>> I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it.
>>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>
> >
>> Aliens came and went.Earth is a microbe planet,and the aliens had no
>> way of copping . They were in their space suits when out of their
>> spaceship. Also their planet had the gravity of Saturn. They did show
>> cave men how to build big and heavy stuff.How to bake bread .How to
>> grow corn,and make beer. Bert
>
>
> Kill me now
>
Amen! (Sorry for the religious word, Harlow...you'll just have to suck
it up)
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-14 08:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mljthh$pk5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #499762 |
On 6/14/2015 8:04 AM, nuny@bid.nes wrote: > On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 3:08:29 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote: >> On 6/12/2015 7:47 PM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote: >>> >>>>> An excellent read on this topic is the book 'Rare Earth' by Peter Ward and >>>>> Donald Brownlee. >>>> >>>> Talk about serendipity! I read this post. Then last night >>>> events turned out that I arrived early for a dinner meeting >>>> and decided to spend the extra half hour looking in the >>>> next door Value Village (a donation driven 2nd hand store). >>>> There in the book section I saw the book 'Rare Earth' by >>>> Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee. >>>> I bought it, and look forward to reading more in it. >>>> Thanks for the suggestion. > > Just a rehash of the Drake equation. We haven't nailed down the values of many of its factors well enough (some, at all) to seriously plan on building a defense against alien invasion or anything. Yet. Oh, you read it? >> Kill me now > > Relax, it's no worse than Scientology. You survived knowing about that. Scientology is exactly as kooky as any other religion. No more, no less. Just that it's more of a sci-fi religion than some of the others which are based upon horror stories, human sacrifice, and cannibalism. > Ever notice how many religions and cults are about how stupid humans are, and how ET(s)/deity/deities either created us stupid, or found us and decided to enslave and/or elevate us while still leaving us stupid? > > Religious types have a paradoxical humility problem; they have a low opinion of "arrogant" humanity in general but a high opinion of themselves because they're In On the real Truth. > > Me, I think we're all, every one of us, partly genius and the rest idiot. I mean, look at the world. On the one hand some of us are constantly pushing to understand more and build a better world, and some of us are STILL trying to forcibly share ancient circumscribed belief systems based on fear. > > We have anti-gay politicians being busted for child molestation, we have hackers blowing whistles on governments. > > Obviously, if anyone's sekritly in charge, they're completely incompetent. > > > Mark L. Fergerson Interesting -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-14 10:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mlk3ld$foh$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #499762 |
On 6/14/2015 9:35 AM, benj wrote: > >> Obviously, if anyone's sekritly in charge, they're completely >> incompetent. > > Harlow been teaching you tradecraft again? Yeah, that's right. All > anyone knows is what they read in the papers. Those in charge are > incompetent and dumb. Economics is too boring to be worthwhile. Yada > Yada Yada. Obviously you are either lying or have never met any of those > "sekritly" in charge. Aka: Overlords -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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