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  El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 17:17 -0500
    Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone Bobby Sifuentes <bobsif@academicinstitute.org> - 2015-10-29 22:22 +0000
    Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-29 23:00 +0000
      Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone Bobby Sifuentes <bobsif@academicinstitute.org> - 2015-10-29 23:27 +0000
        Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-29 17:43 -0700
          Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-10-30 00:52 +0000
            Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-29 19:06 -0700
        Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 22:05 -0400
          Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-29 19:22 -0700
            Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-10-30 02:49 +0000
              Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-29 21:19 -0700
                Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-10-30 04:48 +0000
                  Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 14:12 -0700
          Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone Bobby Sifuentes <bobsif@academicinstitute.org> - 2015-10-30 15:52 +0000
      Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 19:25 -0500
        Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 21:59 -0400
        Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 08:18 -0500
          Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-30 17:02 +0000
      Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-29 17:35 -0700
    Re: El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 17:14 -0700

#528982 — El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone

El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/el-nino-could-push-co2-above-milestone-19605

> Because of unabated manmade emissions, the levels of carbon dioxide
> in Earth’s atmosphere are rising every year, which is, in turn,
> driving up the planet’s temperature.
>
> Since measurements began atop Hawaii’s Mauna Loa volcano in 1958 (an
> effort begun by Keeling’s father, Charles Keeling), atmospheric CO2
> concentrations have risen from about 315 ppm to nearly 400 ppm. The
> graph showing that continuous uptick was dubbed the Keeling Curve.
> (Before the Industrial Revolution began, CO2 was around 280 ppm.)
>
> Embedded in the overall rise of CO2 on the graph are the annual
> wiggles that show the change of CO2 with the seasons. The rise and
> fall trails the spring bloom and fall die-off of plants in the
> Northern Hemisphere, as they suck up and then release CO2. Levels
> usually peak in May and bottom out in September.


> But man made emissions are continuously adding more CO2 to the
> atmosphere, and the plants can only suck up a finite amount. That
> leads to excess CO2 that then accumulates in the atmosphere, to the
> tune of about 2 ppm per year currently. (That rate has accelerated
> since the Mauna Loa record began, as emissions have ramped up over
> time. The yearly rise at the beginning of the record was only about
> 0.75 ppm.)
>
> Since the beginning of the 20th century, all that extra CO2 has lead
> to a global temperature rise of 1.6°F. Depending on if and when
> emissions are curtailed, the temperature rise by the end of this
> century could see another 3°F to 9°F of warming.
>
> The first time the Mauna Loa record saw a measurement above 400 ppm
> was in May 2013. Because of the yearly buildup, that mark was passed
> earlier in 2014, and CO2 levels stayed above it for longer — that
> April was the first month with an average above 400 ppm. This year,
> levels were above that value for six months before declining and
> bottoming out in September.
>
> Scientists like Keeling have been waiting for the year when they no
> longer drop below 400 ppm. He thinks that because of the influence of
> El Niño, this coming year will be the one.

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#528985

Sam Wormley wrote:

> El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/el-nino-could-push-co2-above-
milestone-19605

Just move that milestone.

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#528991

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone

Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
group where such would be appropriate.


>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/el-nino-could-push-co2-above-milestone-19605

Anyone wanting to be kept up to date can simply subscribe to a feed
from this site; no one needs you to cut and paste articles.


>> Because of unabated manmade emissions, the levels of carbon dioxide
>> in Earth?s atmosphere are rising every year, which is, in turn,
>> driving up the planet?s temperature.

Summary: Some outright lies.

>> Since measurements began atop Hawaii?s Mauna Loa volcano in 1958 (an
>> effort begun by Keeling?s father, Charles Keeling), atmospheric CO2
>> concentrations have risen from about 315 ppm to nearly 400 ppm. The
>> graph showing that continuous uptick was dubbed the Keeling Curve.
>> (Before the Industrial Revolution began, CO2 was around 280 ppm.)

Summary: CO2 levels rose to about 400 ppm and have stayed there.

>> Embedded in the overall rise of CO2 on the graph are the annual
>> wiggles that show the change of CO2 with the seasons. The rise and
>> fall trails the spring bloom and fall die-off of plants in the
>> Northern Hemisphere, as they suck up and then release CO2. Levels
>> usually peak in May and bottom out in September.

Summery: Shit happens.

>> But man made emissions are continuously adding more CO2 to the
>> atmosphere, and the plants can only suck up a finite amount. That
>> leads to excess CO2 that then accumulates in the atmosphere, to the
>> tune of about 2 ppm per year currently. (That rate has accelerated
>> since the Mauna Loa record began, as emissions have ramped up over
>> time. The yearly rise at the beginning of the record was only about
>> 0.75 ppm.)

Summary: More outright lies and a bunch of arm waving.

>> Since the beginning of the 20th century, all that extra CO2 has lead
>> to a global temperature rise of 1.6?F. Depending on if and when
>> emissions are curtailed, the temperature rise by the end of this
>> century could see another 3?F to 9?F of warming.

Summary: Listen to us or the world is doomed.

>> The first time the Mauna Loa record saw a measurement above 400 ppm
>> was in May 2013. Because of the yearly buildup, that mark was passed
>> earlier in 2014, and CO2 levels stayed above it for longer ? that
>> April was the first month with an average above 400 ppm. This year,
>> levels were above that value for six months before declining and
>> bottoming out in September.

Summary: Not much is realling happening but be worried anyway.

>> Scientists like Keeling have been waiting for the year when they no
>> longer drop below 400 ppm. He thinks that because of the influence of
>> El Ni?o, this coming year will be the one.

Summary: Shit happens. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#528994

jimp wrote:

> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
> 
> Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
> group where such would be appropriate.

Give a rat co2 and to another rat o2, same quantities along a period of 
time. The one receiving o2 will be dead sooner than the one receiving co2. 
Draw your own conclusion.

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#529035

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 7:27:31 PM UTC-4, Bobby Sifuentes wrote:
> jimp wrote:
> 
> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
> > 
> > Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
> > group where such would be appropriate.
> 
> Give a rat co2 and to another rat o2, same quantities along a period of 
> time. The one receiving o2 will be dead sooner than the one receiving co2. 
> Draw your own conclusion.

xxein:  Warfarin makes rats dead too and yet directly saves many human lives.  Your science logic leaves much to be desired.

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#529036 — Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone

xxein1@att.net wrote:
> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 7:27:31 PM UTC-4, Bobby Sifuentes wrote:
>> jimp wrote:
>> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
>> > Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
>> > group where such would be appropriate.
>> Give a rat co2 and to another rat o2, same quantities along a period of 
>> time. The one receiving o2 will be dead sooner than the one receiving co2. 
>> Draw your own conclusion.
> xxein:  Warfarin makes rats dead too and yet directly saves many human lives.  Your science logic leaves much to be desired.


Madeline needs to give up Harry Potter or the heavy drinking.

--
<http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/23092918/
co2_time_series_through_april2012_v5_nomap_w_no_equations_w_credits-638x486.jpg>
A chart comparing atmospheric CO2 to measured seawater CO2 and pH.
-- Credit: NOAA PMEL

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#529056 — Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 9:04:13 PM UTC-4, Kym Horsell wrote:
> xxein1@att.net wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 7:27:31 PM UTC-4, Bobby Sifuentes wrote:
> >> jimp wrote:
> >> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
> >> > Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
> >> > group where such would be appropriate.
> >> Give a rat co2 and to another rat o2, same quantities along a period of 
> >> time. The one receiving o2 will be dead sooner than the one receiving co2. 
> >> Draw your own conclusion.
> > xxein:  Warfarin makes rats dead too and yet directly saves many human lives.  Your science logic leaves much to be desired.
> 
> 
> Madeline needs to give up Harry Potter or the heavy drinking.
> 
> --
> <http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/23092918/
> co2_time_series_through_april2012_v5_nomap_w_no_equations_w_credits-638x486.jpg>
> A chart comparing atmospheric CO2 to measured seawater CO2 and pH.
> -- Credit: NOAA PMEL

xxein:  It's not nice to try to fool Mother Nature, is it?  On the other hand, Venus is doing just fine.  ???

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#529054

On 10/29/2015 07:27 PM, Bobby Sifuentes wrote:
> jimp wrote:
>
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
>>
>> Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
>> group where such would be appropriate.
>
> Give a rat co2 and to another rat o2, same quantities along a period of
> time. The one receiving o2 will be dead sooner than the one receiving co2.
> Draw your own conclusion.
>
Sammy does not draw conclusions, Bobby. Sammy only repeats what others 
have told him. (Usually ignorant journalists who flunked all science 
courses they ever came near)

-- 
         ___           ___           ___            ___
        /\  \         /\  \         /\__\          /\  \
       /::\  \       /::\  \       /::|  |         \:\  \
      /:/\:\  \     /:/\:\  \     /:|:|  |     ___ /::\__\
     /::\~\:\__\   /::\~\:\  \   /:/|:|  |__  /\  /:/\/__/
    /:/\:\ \:|__| /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\ \:\/:/  /
    \:\~\:\/:/  / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/  /  \::/  /
     \:\ \::/  /   \:\ \:\__\       |:/:/  /    \/__/
      \:\/:/  /     \:\ \/__/       |::/  /
       \_:/__/       \:\__\         /:/  /
                      \/__/         \/__/

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#529062

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:05:29 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 10/29/2015 07:27 PM, Bobby Sifuentes wrote:
> > jimp wrote:
> >
> >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
> >>
> >> Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
> >> group where such would be appropriate.
> >
> > Give a rat co2 and to another rat o2, same quantities along a period of
> > time. The one receiving o2 will be dead sooner than the one receiving co2.
> > Draw your own conclusion.
> >
> Sammy does not draw conclusions, Bobby. Sammy only repeats what others 
> have told him. (Usually ignorant journalists who flunked all science 
> courses they ever came near)
> 
> -- 
>          ___           ___           ___            ___
>         /\  \         /\  \         /\__\          /\  \
>        /::\  \       /::\  \       /::|  |         \:\  \
>       /:/\:\  \     /:/\:\  \     /:|:|  |     ___ /::\__\
>      /::\~\:\__\   /::\~\:\  \   /:/|:|  |__  /\  /:/\/__/
>     /:/\:\ \:|__| /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\ \:\/:/  /
>     \:\~\:\/:/  / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/  /  \::/  /
>      \:\ \::/  /   \:\ \:\__\       |:/:/  /    \/__/
>       \:\/:/  /     \:\ \/__/       |::/  /
>        \_:/__/       \:\__\         /:/  /
>                       \/__/         \/__/

xxein:  Below even normal jackals (benj).

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#529067 — Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone

xxein1@att.net wrote:
> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:05:29 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
>> On 10/29/2015 07:27 PM, Bobby Sifuentes wrote:
>> > jimp wrote:
>> >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
>> >> Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
>> >> group where such would be appropriate.
>> > Give a rat co2 and to another rat o2, same quantities along a period of
>> > time. The one receiving o2 will be dead sooner than the one receiving co2.
>> > Draw your own conclusion.
>> Sammy does not draw conclusions, Bobby. Sammy only repeats what others 
>> have told him. (Usually ignorant journalists who flunked all science 
>> courses they ever came near)
>> -- 
>>          ___           ___           ___            ___
>>         /\  \         /\  \         /\__\          /\  \
>>        /::\  \       /::\  \       /::|  |         \:\  \
>>       /:/\:\  \     /:/\:\  \     /:|:|  |     ___ /::\__\
>>      /::\~\:\__\   /::\~\:\  \   /:/|:|  |__  /\  /:/\/__/
>>     /:/\:\ \:|__| /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\ \:\/:/  /
>>     \:\~\:\/:/  / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/  /  \::/  /
>>      \:\ \::/  /   \:\ \:\__\       |:/:/  /    \/__/
>>       \:\/:/  /     \:\ \/__/       |::/  /
>>        \_:/__/       \:\__\         /:/  /
>>                       \/__/         \/__/
> xxein:  Below even normal jackals (benj).

Is *that* what that monogram is. I thought until now it was

	BRICK M Z PENIS


-- 
[W]hoever came up with the phrase "greenhouse gasses" didn't
understand how a greenhouse works.
-- jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com, 1 Nov 2011 16:43 -0000

[A] real greenhouse has solid walls which do not allow the internal 
air to mix with the ambient air, which could be well
below freezing, has nothing to do with it and the vents on real greenhouses
that are used to provide regulation of the internal temperature don't exist.
-- jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 

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#529077 — Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:49:39 PM UTC-4, Kym Horsell wrote:
> xxein1@att.net wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:05:29 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> >> On 10/29/2015 07:27 PM, Bobby Sifuentes wrote:
> >> > jimp wrote:
> >> >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
> >> >> Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
> >> >> group where such would be appropriate.
> >> > Give a rat co2 and to another rat o2, same quantities along a period of
> >> > time. The one receiving o2 will be dead sooner than the one receiving co2.
> >> > Draw your own conclusion.
> >> Sammy does not draw conclusions, Bobby. Sammy only repeats what others 
> >> have told him. (Usually ignorant journalists who flunked all science 
> >> courses they ever came near)
> >> -- 
> >>          ___           ___           ___            ___
> >>         /\  \         /\  \         /\__\          /\  \
> >>        /::\  \       /::\  \       /::|  |         \:\  \
> >>       /:/\:\  \     /:/\:\  \     /:|:|  |     ___ /::\__\
> >>      /::\~\:\__\   /::\~\:\  \   /:/|:|  |__  /\  /:/\/__/
> >>     /:/\:\ \:|__| /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\ \:\/:/  /
> >>     \:\~\:\/:/  / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/  /  \::/  /
> >>      \:\ \::/  /   \:\ \:\__\       |:/:/  /    \/__/
> >>       \:\/:/  /     \:\ \/__/       |::/  /
> >>        \_:/__/       \:\__\         /:/  /
> >>                       \/__/         \/__/
> > xxein:  Below even normal jackals (benj).
> 
> Is *that* what that monogram is. I thought until now it was
> 
> 	BRICK M Z PENIS
> 
> 
> -- 
> [W]hoever came up with the phrase "greenhouse gasses" didn't
> understand how a greenhouse works.
> -- jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com, 1 Nov 2011 16:43 -0000
> 
> [A] real greenhouse has solid walls which do not allow the internal 
> air to mix with the ambient air, which could be well
> below freezing, has nothing to do with it and the vents on real greenhouses
> that are used to provide regulation of the internal temperature don't exist.
> -- jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com

xxein:  That was jimp?  Wow!  I guess his third grade class had a wonderful see and tell outing.

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#529079 — Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone

xxein1@att.net wrote:
> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:49:39 PM UTC-4, Kym Horsell wrote:
>> xxein1@att.net wrote:
>> > On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:05:29 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
>> >> On 10/29/2015 07:27 PM, Bobby Sifuentes wrote:
>> >> > jimp wrote:
>> >> >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
...
>>>[benj's coded fan message for One Direction].
>> -- 
>> [W]hoever came up with the phrase "greenhouse gasses" didn't
>> understand how a greenhouse works.
>> -- jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com, 1 Nov 2011 16:43 -0000
>> [A] real greenhouse has solid walls which do not allow the internal 
>> air to mix with the ambient air, which could be well
>> below freezing, has nothing to do with it and the vents on real greenhouses
>> that are used to provide regulation of the internal temperature don't exist.
>> -- jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
> xxein:  That was jimp?  Wow!  I guess his third grade class had a 
wonderful see and tell outing.

You can see why his standards for science content are so damn high.

-- 
Already, there is evidence that the winds of some storms may be changing. A 
study based on more than two decades of satellite altimeter data (measuring 
sea surface height) showed that hurricanes intensify significantly faster 
now than they did 25 years ago. Specifically, researchers found that storms 
attain Category 3 wind speeds nearly nine hours faster than they did in the 
1980s. Another satellite-based study found that global wind speeds had 
increased by an average of 5 percent over the past two decades.
There is also evidence that extra water vapor in the atmosphere is making 
storms wetter. During the past 25 years, satellites have measured a 4 
percent rise in water vapor in the air column. In ground-based records, 
about 76 percent of weather stations in the United States have seen 
increases in extreme precipitation since 1948. One analysis found that 
extreme downpours are happening 30 percent more often. Another study found 
that the largest storms now produce 10 percent more precipitation.
-- http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/ClimateStorms/page2.php

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#529234 — Re: El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone

that is why is it gOOd to mulch,
both for drought & flood ... eLNino is coming

> There is also evidence that extra water vapor in the atmosphere is making 
> storms wetter. During the past 25 years, satellites have measured a 4 
> percent rise in water vapor in the air column. In ground-based records, 
> about 76 percent of weather stations in the United States have seen 
> increases in extreme precipitation since 1948. One analysis found that 
> extreme downpours are happening 30 percent more often. Another study found 
> that the largest storms now produce 10 percent more precipitation.
> -- http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/ClimateStorms/page2.php

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#529142

benj wrote:

>>> Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
>>> group where such would be appropriate.
>>
>> Give a rat co2 and to another rat o2, same quantities along a period of
>> time. The one receiving o2 will be dead sooner than the one receiving
>> co2.
>> Draw your own conclusion.
>>
> Sammy does not draw conclusions, Bobby. Sammy only repeats what others
> have told him. (Usually ignorant journalists who flunked all science
> courses they ever came near)

Thanks, but is worse than that. I strongly suspect that they co2 instead 
of o2, just because the Average Joe connects o2 to something good an 
healthy. However, co2 is connected to carbon monoxide which is toxic. 

See it now, they are not stupid.

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#529021

   El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/el-nino-could-push-co2-above-milestone-19605

 > Because of unabated manmade emissions, the levels of carbon dioxide
 > in Earth’s atmosphere are rising every year, which is, in turn,
 > driving up the planet’s temperature.
 >
 > Since measurements began atop Hawaii’s Mauna Loa volcano in 1958 (an
 > effort begun by Keeling’s father, Charles Keeling), atmospheric CO2
 > concentrations have risen from about 315 ppm to nearly 400 ppm. The
 > graph showing that continuous uptick was dubbed the Keeling Curve.
 > (Before the Industrial Revolution began, CO2 was around 280 ppm.)
 >
 > Embedded in the overall rise of CO2 on the graph are the annual
 > wiggles that show the change of CO2 with the seasons. The rise and
 > fall trails the spring bloom and fall die-off of plants in the
 > Northern Hemisphere, as they suck up and then release CO2. Levels
 > usually peak in May and bottom out in September.


 > But man made emissions are continuously adding more CO2 to the
 > atmosphere, and the plants can only suck up a finite amount. That
 > leads to excess CO2 that then accumulates in the atmosphere, to the
 > tune of about 2 ppm per year currently. (That rate has accelerated
 > since the Mauna Loa record began, as emissions have ramped up over
 > time. The yearly rise at the beginning of the record was only about
 > 0.75 ppm.)
 >
 > Since the beginning of the 20th century, all that extra CO2 has lead
 > to a global temperature rise of 1.6°F. Depending on if and when
 > emissions are curtailed, the temperature rise by the end of this
 > century could see another 3°F to 9°F of warming.
 >
 > The first time the Mauna Loa record saw a measurement above 400 ppm
 > was in May 2013. Because of the yearly buildup, that mark was passed
 > earlier in 2014, and CO2 levels stayed above it for longer — that
 > April was the first month with an average above 400 ppm. This year,
 > levels were above that value for six months before declining and
 > bottoming out in September.
 >
 > Scientists like Keeling have been waiting for the year when they no
 > longer drop below 400 ppm. He thinks that because of the influence of
 > El Niño, this coming year will be the one.


-- 

sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
community, and physics-related social issues.

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#529051

On 10/29/2015 08:25 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>    El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/el-nino-could-push-co2-above-milestone-19605
>>
>
>  > Because of unabated manmade emissions, the levels of carbon dioxide
>  > in Earth’s atmosphere are rising every year, which is, in turn,
>  > driving up the planet’s temperature.
>  >
>  > Since measurements began atop Hawaii’s Mauna Loa volcano in 1958 (an
>  > effort begun by Keeling’s father, Charles Keeling), atmospheric CO2
>  > concentrations have risen from about 315 ppm to nearly 400 ppm. The
>  > graph showing that continuous uptick was dubbed the Keeling Curve.
>  > (Before the Industrial Revolution began, CO2 was around 280 ppm.)
>  >
>  > Embedded in the overall rise of CO2 on the graph are the annual
>  > wiggles that show the change of CO2 with the seasons. The rise and
>  > fall trails the spring bloom and fall die-off of plants in the
>  > Northern Hemisphere, as they suck up and then release CO2. Levels
>  > usually peak in May and bottom out in September.
>
>
>  > But man made emissions are continuously adding more CO2 to the
>  > atmosphere, and the plants can only suck up a finite amount. That
>  > leads to excess CO2 that then accumulates in the atmosphere, to the
>  > tune of about 2 ppm per year currently. (That rate has accelerated
>  > since the Mauna Loa record began, as emissions have ramped up over
>  > time. The yearly rise at the beginning of the record was only about
>  > 0.75 ppm.)
>  >
>  > Since the beginning of the 20th century, all that extra CO2 has lead
>  > to a global temperature rise of 1.6°F. Depending on if and when
>  > emissions are curtailed, the temperature rise by the end of this
>  > century could see another 3°F to 9°F of warming.
>  >
>  > The first time the Mauna Loa record saw a measurement above 400 ppm
>  > was in May 2013. Because of the yearly buildup, that mark was passed
>  > earlier in 2014, and CO2 levels stayed above it for longer — that
>  > April was the first month with an average above 400 ppm. This year,
>  > levels were above that value for six months before declining and
>  > bottoming out in September.
>  >
>  > Scientists like Keeling have been waiting for the year when they no
>  > longer drop below 400 ppm. He thinks that because of the influence of
>  > El Niño, this coming year will be the one.

I know you warmists are "idea men" and don't do quantity, but added CO2 
from man has not been shown to be significant. Nor has it been shown to 
cause warming. CO2 has gone up and climate has cooled down (1940-1970) 
CO2 continues to go up but warming is ZERO for 17 years. Maybe Keeling 
would have better CO2 measurements if he weren't doing them on an active 
volcano?



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#529116

On 10/30/15 12:17 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Where is your discussion you claim to embrace, spamming shit head?
>


   The poor jump is having trouble finding people to discuss stuff with
   him. Maybe it's his breath, or his bullying or inappropriate language.
   He huffs and puffs, with no progress.

   Name callers like jimp, can greatly benefit from these anger
   management classes.
 > http://yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   El Niño Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/el-nino-could-push-co2-above-milestone-19605

 > Because of unabated manmade emissions, the levels of carbon dioxide
 > in Earth’s atmosphere are rising every year, which is, in turn,
 > driving up the planet’s temperature.
 >
 > Since measurements began atop Hawaii’s Mauna Loa volcano in 1958 (an
 > effort begun by Keeling’s father, Charles Keeling), atmospheric CO2
 > concentrations have risen from about 315 ppm to nearly 400 ppm. The
 > graph showing that continuous uptick was dubbed the Keeling Curve.
 > (Before the Industrial Revolution began, CO2 was around 280 ppm.)
 >
 > Embedded in the overall rise of CO2 on the graph are the annual
 > wiggles that show the change of CO2 with the seasons. The rise and
 > fall trails the spring bloom and fall die-off of plants in the
 > Northern Hemisphere, as they suck up and then release CO2. Levels
 > usually peak in May and bottom out in September.


 > But man made emissions are continuously adding more CO2 to the
 > atmosphere, and the plants can only suck up a finite amount. That
 > leads to excess CO2 that then accumulates in the atmosphere, to the
 > tune of about 2 ppm per year currently. (That rate has accelerated
 > since the Mauna Loa record began, as emissions have ramped up over
 > time. The yearly rise at the beginning of the record was only about
 > 0.75 ppm.)
 >
 > Since the beginning of the 20th century, all that extra CO2 has lead
 > to a global temperature rise of 1.6°F. Depending on if and when
 > emissions are curtailed, the temperature rise by the end of this
 > century could see another 3°F to 9°F of warming.
 >
 > The first time the Mauna Loa record saw a measurement above 400 ppm
 > was in May 2013. Because of the yearly buildup, that mark was passed
 > earlier in 2014, and CO2 levels stayed above it for longer — that
 > April was the first month with an average above 400 ppm. This year,
 > levels were above that value for six months before declining and
 > bottoming out in September.
 >
 > Scientists like Keeling have been waiting for the year when they no
 > longer drop below 400 ppm. He thinks that because of the influence of
 > El Niño, this coming year will be the one.


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#529156

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/30/15 12:17 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Where is your discussion you claim to embrace, spamming shit head?
>>
> 
> 
>   The poor jump is having trouble finding people to discuss stuff with

It is now blazingly obvious your cut and pastes are not deemed worth
discussing by anyone, shit head.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#529032

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 7:01:09 PM UTC-4, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> > El Ni?o Could Push CO2 Permanently Above Milestone
> 
> Weather speculation posted to a physics group yet not to any of the
> group where such would be appropriate.
> 
> 
> >> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/el-nino-could-push-co2-above-milestone-19605
> 
> Anyone wanting to be kept up to date can simply subscribe to a feed
> from this site; no one needs you to cut and paste articles.
> 
> 
> >> Because of unabated manmade emissions, the levels of carbon dioxide
> >> in Earth?s atmosphere are rising every year, which is, in turn,
> >> driving up the planet?s temperature.
> 
> Summary: Some outright lies.
> 
> >> Since measurements began atop Hawaii?s Mauna Loa volcano in 1958 (an
> >> effort begun by Keeling?s father, Charles Keeling), atmospheric CO2
> >> concentrations have risen from about 315 ppm to nearly 400 ppm. The
> >> graph showing that continuous uptick was dubbed the Keeling Curve.
> >> (Before the Industrial Revolution began, CO2 was around 280 ppm.)
> 
> Summary: CO2 levels rose to about 400 ppm and have stayed there.
> 
> >> Embedded in the overall rise of CO2 on the graph are the annual
> >> wiggles that show the change of CO2 with the seasons. The rise and
> >> fall trails the spring bloom and fall die-off of plants in the
> >> Northern Hemisphere, as they suck up and then release CO2. Levels
> >> usually peak in May and bottom out in September.
> 
> Summery: Shit happens.
> 
> >> But man made emissions are continuously adding more CO2 to the
> >> atmosphere, and the plants can only suck up a finite amount. That
> >> leads to excess CO2 that then accumulates in the atmosphere, to the
> >> tune of about 2 ppm per year currently. (That rate has accelerated
> >> since the Mauna Loa record began, as emissions have ramped up over
> >> time. The yearly rise at the beginning of the record was only about
> >> 0.75 ppm.)
> 
> Summary: More outright lies and a bunch of arm waving.
> 
> >> Since the beginning of the 20th century, all that extra CO2 has lead
> >> to a global temperature rise of 1.6?F. Depending on if and when
> >> emissions are curtailed, the temperature rise by the end of this
> >> century could see another 3?F to 9?F of warming.
> 
> Summary: Listen to us or the world is doomed.
> 
> >> The first time the Mauna Loa record saw a measurement above 400 ppm
> >> was in May 2013. Because of the yearly buildup, that mark was passed
> >> earlier in 2014, and CO2 levels stayed above it for longer ? that
> >> April was the first month with an average above 400 ppm. This year,
> >> levels were above that value for six months before declining and
> >> bottoming out in September.
> 
> Summary: Not much is realling happening but be worried anyway.
> 
> >> Scientists like Keeling have been waiting for the year when they no
> >> longer drop below 400 ppm. He thinks that because of the influence of
> >> El Ni?o, this coming year will be the one.
> 
> Summary: Shit happens. 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

xxein:  Hey, jimp.  So?  Just why are YOU here?  All you do is deny any science anyway.  You're too ignorant to participate in any meaningful way, aren't you?

You belong in alt.moron.insult.

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#529014

OCO is bad (or, don't exhale that.

eLNino is oming;
mulch that patch of bareness

> > Scientists like Keeling have been waiting for the year when they no
> > longer drop below 400 ppm. He thinks that because of the influence of
> > El Niño, this coming year will be the one.
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

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