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| First post | 2016-02-05 19:28 -0600 |
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We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 19:28 -0600
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-06 10:36 +0000
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-06 06:57 +0000
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 14:12 +0000
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 07:12 -0800
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 21:04 +0000
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 22:20 +0000
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 07:39 -0800
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 12:34 -0500
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 07:52 -0800
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 08:48 -0800
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 09:10 -0800
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 12:39 -0500
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 09:47 -0800
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 09:17 -0600
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 12:20 -0500
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 12:34 -0500
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-06 18:17 +0000
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 07:57 -0800
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 12:26 -0500
Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-07 18:37 +0000
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-05 19:28 -0600 |
| Subject | We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish |
| Message-ID | <I-SdnX9cBqna0SjLnZ2dnUU7-eWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish > http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/economics/we-have-to-announce-that-all-modern-physics-is-rubbish/ > Well, obviously it’s rubbish, eh? Because as Walter Heisenberg > pointed out we can’t even pin point the location of a particle using > physics. So, what’s the use of it, eh? We can know where an electron > is going, possibly even how fast, but not where it is. So, thus, > obviously, we need to take an entirely different approach to the > whole subject of trying to understand the physical world around us. > > At least, this would be so if we were to take Tim Garton Ash on > economics seriously: > -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | shan <shan@enterapps.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 10:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n94iag$1ht4$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #550806 |
Użytkownik Sam Wormley napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych: > We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish >> http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/economics/we-have-to-announce-that-all- modern-physics-is-rubbish/ > >> Well, obviously it’s rubbish, eh? Because as Walter Heisenberg pointed >> out we can’t even pin point the location of a particle using physics. >> So, what’s the use of it, eh? We can know where an electron is going, >> possibly even how fast, but not where it is. So, thus, >> obviously, we need to take an entirely different approach to the whole >> subject of trying to understand the physical world around us. >> At least, this would be so if we were to take Tim Garton Ash on >> economics seriously: You don't need to take that. Is been like that since 1920s. The proof for this is that the nazis won the war.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 06:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s2igoc-89r.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #550806 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your "posts". -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 14:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n94uvv$6ht$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #550884 |
jimp wrote: > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: >> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish > > Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your > "posts". Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 07:12 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <24e00f0b-ee3b-40e9-ad7f-2d99bbe2c735@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #550887 |
On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote: > jimp wrote: > > > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish > > > > Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your > > "posts". > > Ignorance is the driving force in physics. Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you? Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: What if no real people actually exist?”
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| From | Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 21:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n95n5g$1egi$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #550896 |
Mahipal wrote: > On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote: >> jimp wrote: >> >> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish >> > >> > Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your >> > "posts". >> >> Ignorance is the driving force in physics. > > Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you? > > Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much. You have it upside-down, once again. The danger in science is not the ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. Which applies for the majority around here. Especially for a boy named Gary.
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| From | Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 22:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n95rjc$1luk$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #550962 |
Éibhear wrote: > Mahipal wrote: > >> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote: >>> jimp wrote: >>> >>> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish >>> > >>> > Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your >>> > "posts". >>> >>> Ignorance is the driving force in physics. >> >> Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you? >> >> Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much. > > You have it upside-down, once again. The danger in science is not the > ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. Which applies for the majority > around here. Especially for a boy named Gary. And another boy named Potink
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-07 07:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1dca164c-c926-4307-86fb-1c314b413b2a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #550982 |
On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 5:20:35 PM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote: > Éibhear wrote: > > > Mahipal wrote: > > > >> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote: > >>> jimp wrote: > >>> > >>> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish > >>> > > >>> > Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your > >>> > "posts". > >>> > >>> Ignorance is the driving force in physics. > >> > >> Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you? > >> > >> Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much. > > > > You have it upside-down, once again. The danger in science is not the > > ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. Which applies for the majority > > around here. Especially for a boy named Gary. > > And another boy named Potink So you like that other people have names. That's cute. Ironic too. Do you know the story of the boy who cried wolf Wolf WOLF? He died. The flip side is, the boy who didn't cry wolf, also, later, died. It's a Death Trap, a suicide rap, 'cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run... that should be a song! I'll get on it immediately... As of late, there are merely 7.638+/- billion humans, all of them read this NG and ponder its poetically politically scientific correct contents. So, can you remember how many nyms you Éibhear have personally shifted? Don't get me wrong or think me rude, I mean in the last month alone? Liars, Lawyers, Politicians, False Accusations, Blind BlondeIshQ Witnesses, NymShiftingTrolls, JusticeFreeZones ... Ray Hope it's the Way Ja(y). Hop on bus Gus, don't need to discuss... much. Song again? Where's the Physics? Good question. Sit down, shut up, CALCULATE! You call that a CalQueueLator?! This, my Dost, is a CalcuLate(R)! -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: What's in a name? Thorns of a Rose?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3t9SfrfDZM done Done and DONE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298nld4Yfds damn I'm good, done too!
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-07 12:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7fLty.20027$2e1.18294@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #551056 |
On 02/07/2016 10:39 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 5:20:35 PM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote:
>> Éibhear wrote:
>>
>>> Mahipal wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote:
>>>>> jimp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your
>>>>>> "posts".
>>>>>
>>>>> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
>>>>
>>>> Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you?
>>>>
>>>> Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much.
>>>
>>> You have it upside-down, once again. The danger in science is not the
>>> ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. Which applies for the majority
>>> around here. Especially for a boy named Gary.
>>
>> And another boy named Potink
>
> So you like that other people have names. That's cute. Ironic too.
>
> Do you know the story of the boy who cried wolf Wolf WOLF? He died.
> The flip side is, the boy who didn't cry wolf, also, later, died.
> It's a Death Trap, a suicide rap, 'cause tramps like us, baby we were
> born to run... that should be a song! I'll get on it immediately...
>
> As of late, there are merely 7.638+/- billion humans, all of them read
> this NG and ponder its poetically politically scientific correct contents.
> So, can you remember how many nyms you Éibhear have personally shifted?
> Don't get me wrong or think me rude, I mean in the last month alone?
>
> Liars, Lawyers, Politicians, False Accusations, Blind BlondeIshQ
> Witnesses, NymShiftingTrolls, JusticeFreeZones ... Ray Hope it's the
> Way Ja(y). Hop on bus Gus, don't need to discuss... much. Song again?
>
> Where's the Physics? Good question. Sit down, shut up, CALCULATE!
> You call that a CalQueueLator?! This, my Dost, is a CalcuLate(R)!
Nice writing job Maple Loops! Too bad that pro writers here never bother
anymore. Long live Uncle Al.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 07:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <745f74e3-b6f7-41f3-af76-bac91922fa1b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #550887 |
Ignorance is the driving force in physics. ---------- Ignorance is the driving force in all scientific endeavors. We don't know something + we want to find out logically = a scientific endeavor
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 08:48 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <135bbb09-7820-4ea8-a89d-793909af8aed@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #550897 |
When I see something weird, I put it in a mental "that's weird" folder. After many years, more and more match up with later observations. Sometimes a shoe drops.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 09:10 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b423af21-6eca-4990-8654-5953c78315bd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #550907 |
john When I see something weird, I put it in a mental "that's weird" folder. ---------- I truly cannot even imagine what YOU find weird john. PS- Have you had any experiences with ghosts?
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 12:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <idqty.313822$Gc6.165183@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #550909 |
On 02/06/2016 12:10 PM, HVAC wrote:
> john
> When I see something weird, I put it
> in a mental "that's weird" folder.
> ----------
>
> I truly cannot even imagine what YOU find weird john.
>
> PS- Have you had any experiences with ghosts?
>
HVAC is particularly worried about the "GOOK GHOSTS" (tm) he sees at the
foot of his bed every night.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 09:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <031a4358-3f11-4dd5-9264-4bdc7c49c795@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #550909 |
I have had lucid dreams where I was hanging out with my father, knowing full well that he was dead and that I was dreaming. Does that count?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-08 09:17 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n9abhl$1pjm$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #550926 |
On 2/6/2016 11:47 AM, john wrote: > I have had lucid dreams where I was > hanging out with my father, knowing full well > that he was dead and that I was dreaming. > Does that count? > Count as what? Paranormal communication? John, are you kidding me? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-08 12:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <_74uy.348103$8V1.321392@fx28.iad> |
| In reply to | #551242 |
On 02/08/2016 10:17 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 2/6/2016 11:47 AM, john wrote:
>> I have had lucid dreams where I was
>> hanging out with my father, knowing full well
>> that he was dead and that I was dreaming.
>> Does that count?
>>
>
> Count as what? Paranormal communication? John, are you kidding me?
>
Count as "persistence of consciousness"?
Dreams for a number of reasons (lucid or otherwise) are not an
especially good place to find reliable paranormal data.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 12:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <j8qty.450843$Cg1.57790@fx10.iad> |
| In reply to | #550897 |
On 02/06/2016 10:52 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
> ----------
>
> Ignorance is the driving force in all scientific endeavors.
>
> We don't know something + we want to find out logically = a scientific endeavor
>
Luckily HVAC doesn't need to understand science because he knows
everything already and hence has no need for science.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-06 18:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lvphoc-g52.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #550887 |
Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> wrote: > jimp wrote: > >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish >> >> Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your >> "posts". > > Ignorance is the driving force in physics. Only in this newgroup; in the real world it is enlightened curiosity. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-07 07:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b2171dc6-10e5-495e-a4a3-cc9a84a1e71c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #550938 |
> Ignorance is the driving force in physics. Only in this newgroup; in the real world it is enlightened curiosity. -------------- I don't know about you but I see amazing levels of ignorance in the real world on a daily basis. It's part of the reason I don't typically carry concealed when I mingle with the unwashed masses. My 'lessons' are a bit harsh. However, this group does seem to be a nexus for scientific ignorance as you stated
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-07 12:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n7Lty.48185$kh1.7303@fx16.iad> |
| In reply to | #551057 |
On 02/07/2016 10:57 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
>
> Only in this newgroup; in the real world it is enlightened curiosity.
> --------------
>
> I don't know about you but I see amazing levels of ignorance in the real world on a daily basis.
>
> It's part of the reason I don't typically carry concealed when I mingle with the unwashed masses.
>
> My 'lessons' are a bit harsh.
>
> However, this group does seem to be a nexus for scientific ignorance as you stated
>
Led by himself, natch.
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