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We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2016-02-05 19:28 -0600
Last post2016-02-07 18:37 +0000
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  We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 19:28 -0600
    Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-06 10:36 +0000
    Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-06 06:57 +0000
      Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 14:12 +0000
        Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 07:12 -0800
          Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 21:04 +0000
            Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 22:20 +0000
              Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 07:39 -0800
                Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 12:34 -0500
        Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 07:52 -0800
          Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 08:48 -0800
            Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 09:10 -0800
              Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 12:39 -0500
              Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 09:47 -0800
                Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 09:17 -0600
                  Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 12:20 -0500
          Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 12:34 -0500
        Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-06 18:17 +0000
          Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 07:57 -0800
            Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 12:26 -0500
            Re: We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-07 18:37 +0000

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#550806 — We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-05 19:28 -0600
SubjectWe have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
Message-ID<I-SdnX9cBqna0SjLnZ2dnUU7-eWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
> http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/economics/we-have-to-announce-that-all-modern-physics-is-rubbish/

> Well, obviously it’s rubbish, eh? Because as Walter Heisenberg
> pointed out we can’t even pin point the location of a particle using
> physics. So, what’s the use of it, eh? We can know where an electron
> is going, possibly even how fast, but not where it is. So, thus,
> obviously, we need to take an entirely different approach to the
> whole subject of trying to understand the physical world around us.
>
> At least, this would be so if we were to take Tim Garton Ash on
> economics seriously:
>

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#550857

Fromshan <shan@enterapps.org>
Date2016-02-06 10:36 +0000
Message-ID<n94iag$1ht4$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#550806
Użytkownik Sam Wormley napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:

> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
>> http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/economics/we-have-to-announce-that-all-
modern-physics-is-rubbish/
> 
>> Well, obviously it’s rubbish, eh? Because as Walter Heisenberg pointed
>> out we can’t even pin point the location of a particle using physics.
>> So, what’s the use of it, eh? We can know where an electron is going,
>> possibly even how fast, but not where it is. So, thus,
>> obviously, we need to take an entirely different approach to the whole
>> subject of trying to understand the physical world around us.
>> At least, this would be so if we were to take Tim Garton Ash on
>> economics seriously:

You don't need to take that. Is been like that since 1920s. The proof for 
this is that the nazis won the war.

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#550884

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-06 06:57 +0000
Message-ID<s2igoc-89r.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#550806
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish

Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your "posts".


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#550887

FromÉibhear <eibhear@no-email.net>
Date2016-02-06 14:12 +0000
Message-ID<n94uvv$6ht$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#550884
jimp wrote:

> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
> 
> Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your
> "posts".

Ignorance is the driving force in physics.

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#550896

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-06 07:12 -0800
Message-ID<24e00f0b-ee3b-40e9-ad7f-2d99bbe2c735@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#550887
On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote:
> jimp wrote:
> 
> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
> > 
> > Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your
> > "posts".
> 
> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.

Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you?

Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: What if no real people actually exist?”

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#550962

FromÉibhear <eibhear@no-email.net>
Date2016-02-06 21:04 +0000
Message-ID<n95n5g$1egi$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#550896
Mahipal wrote:

> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote:
>> jimp wrote:
>> 
>> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
>> > 
>> > Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your
>> > "posts".
>> 
>> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
> 
> Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you?
> 
> Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much.

You have it upside-down, once again. The danger in science is not the 
ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. Which applies for the majority 
around here. Especially for a boy named Gary.

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#550982

FromÉibhear <eibhear@no-email.net>
Date2016-02-06 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<n95rjc$1luk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#550962
Éibhear wrote:

> Mahipal wrote:
> 
>> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote:
>>> jimp wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
>>> > 
>>> > Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your
>>> > "posts".
>>> 
>>> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
>> 
>> Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you?
>> 
>> Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much.
> 
> You have it upside-down, once again. The danger in science is not the
> ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. Which applies for the majority
> around here. Especially for a boy named Gary.

And another boy named Potink

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#551056

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-07 07:39 -0800
Message-ID<1dca164c-c926-4307-86fb-1c314b413b2a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#550982
On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 5:20:35 PM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote:
> Éibhear wrote:
> 
> > Mahipal wrote:
> > 
> >> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote:
> >>> jimp wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
> >>> > 
> >>> > Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your
> >>> > "posts".
> >>> 
> >>> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
> >> 
> >> Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you?
> >> 
> >> Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much.
> > 
> > You have it upside-down, once again. The danger in science is not the
> > ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. Which applies for the majority
> > around here. Especially for a boy named Gary.
> 
> And another boy named Potink

So you like that other people have names. That's cute. Ironic too.

Do you know the story of the boy who cried wolf Wolf WOLF? He died.
The flip side is, the boy who didn't cry wolf, also, later, died.
It's a Death Trap, a suicide rap, 'cause tramps like us, baby we were
born to run... that should be a song! I'll get on it immediately...

As of late, there are merely 7.638+/- billion humans, all of them read
this NG and ponder its poetically politically scientific correct contents. 
So, can you remember how many nyms you Éibhear have personally shifted? 
Don't get me wrong or think me rude, I mean in the last month alone?

Liars, Lawyers, Politicians, False Accusations, Blind BlondeIshQ
Witnesses, NymShiftingTrolls, JusticeFreeZones ... Ray Hope it's the
Way Ja(y). Hop on bus Gus, don't need to discuss... much. Song again?

Where's the Physics? Good question. Sit down, shut up, CALCULATE!
You call that a CalQueueLator?! This, my Dost, is a CalcuLate(R)!

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: What's in a name? Thorns of a Rose?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3t9SfrfDZM done Done and DONE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298nld4Yfds damn I'm good, done too!

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#551073

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-07 12:34 -0500
Message-ID<7fLty.20027$2e1.18294@fx15.iad>
In reply to#551056
On 02/07/2016 10:39 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 5:20:35 PM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote:
>> Éibhear wrote:
>>
>>> Mahipal wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-5, Éibhear wrote:
>>>>> jimp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your
>>>>>> "posts".
>>>>>
>>>>> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
>>>>
>>>> Nym-shifted Éibhear, Got Equation?! For this driving force, do you?
>>>>
>>>> Ignorance is curable as Bliss, while stupidity, not so much.
>>>
>>> You have it upside-down, once again. The danger in science is not the
>>> ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. Which applies for the majority
>>> around here. Especially for a boy named Gary.
>>
>> And another boy named Potink
>
> So you like that other people have names. That's cute. Ironic too.
>
> Do you know the story of the boy who cried wolf Wolf WOLF? He died.
> The flip side is, the boy who didn't cry wolf, also, later, died.
> It's a Death Trap, a suicide rap, 'cause tramps like us, baby we were
> born to run... that should be a song! I'll get on it immediately...
>
> As of late, there are merely 7.638+/- billion humans, all of them read
> this NG and ponder its poetically politically scientific correct contents.
> So, can you remember how many nyms you Éibhear have personally shifted?
> Don't get me wrong or think me rude, I mean in the last month alone?
>
> Liars, Lawyers, Politicians, False Accusations, Blind BlondeIshQ
> Witnesses, NymShiftingTrolls, JusticeFreeZones ... Ray Hope it's the
> Way Ja(y). Hop on bus Gus, don't need to discuss... much. Song again?
>
> Where's the Physics? Good question. Sit down, shut up, CALCULATE!
> You call that a CalQueueLator?! This, my Dost, is a CalcuLate(R)!

Nice writing job Maple Loops! Too bad that pro writers here never bother 
anymore. Long live Uncle Al.


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#550897

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-06 07:52 -0800
Message-ID<745f74e3-b6f7-41f3-af76-bac91922fa1b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#550887
Ignorance is the driving force in physics. 
----------

Ignorance is the driving force in all scientific endeavors. 

We don't know something + we want to find out logically = a scientific endeavor

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#550907

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-06 08:48 -0800
Message-ID<135bbb09-7820-4ea8-a89d-793909af8aed@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#550897
When I see something weird, I put it
in a mental "that's weird" folder.
After many years, more and more
match up with later observations. Sometimes 
a shoe drops.

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#550909

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-06 09:10 -0800
Message-ID<b423af21-6eca-4990-8654-5953c78315bd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#550907
john
When I see something weird, I put it 
in a mental "that's weird" folder. 
----------

I truly cannot even imagine what YOU find weird john.

PS- Have you had any experiences with ghosts?

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#550923

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-06 12:39 -0500
Message-ID<idqty.313822$Gc6.165183@fx08.iad>
In reply to#550909
On 02/06/2016 12:10 PM, HVAC wrote:
> john
> When I see something weird, I put it
> in a mental "that's weird" folder.
> ----------
>
> I truly cannot even imagine what YOU find weird john.
>
> PS- Have you had any experiences with ghosts?
>
HVAC is particularly worried about the "GOOK GHOSTS" (tm) he sees at the 
foot of his bed every night.

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#550926

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-06 09:47 -0800
Message-ID<031a4358-3f11-4dd5-9264-4bdc7c49c795@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#550909
I have had lucid dreams where I was
hanging out with my father, knowing full well 
that he was dead and that I was dreaming.
Does that count?

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#551242

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-08 09:17 -0600
Message-ID<n9abhl$1pjm$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#550926
On 2/6/2016 11:47 AM, john wrote:
> I have had lucid dreams where I was
> hanging out with my father, knowing full well
> that he was dead and that I was dreaming.
> Does that count?
>

Count as what? Paranormal communication? John, are you kidding me?


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#551283

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-08 12:20 -0500
Message-ID<_74uy.348103$8V1.321392@fx28.iad>
In reply to#551242
On 02/08/2016 10:17 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 2/6/2016 11:47 AM, john wrote:
>> I have had lucid dreams where I was
>> hanging out with my father, knowing full well
>> that he was dead and that I was dreaming.
>> Does that count?
>>
>
> Count as what? Paranormal communication? John, are you kidding me?
>

Count as "persistence of consciousness"?

Dreams for a number of reasons (lucid or otherwise) are not an 
especially good place to find reliable paranormal data.

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#550921

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-06 12:34 -0500
Message-ID<j8qty.450843$Cg1.57790@fx10.iad>
In reply to#550897
On 02/06/2016 10:52 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
> ----------
>
> Ignorance is the driving force in all scientific endeavors.
>
> We don't know something + we want to find out logically = a scientific endeavor
>
Luckily HVAC doesn't need to understand science because he knows 
everything already and hence has no need for science.

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#550938

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-06 18:17 +0000
Message-ID<lvphoc-g52.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#550887
Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> wrote:
> jimp wrote:
> 
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We have to announce that all modern physics is rubbish
>> 
>> Well, perhaps not all modern physics, but certainly most of your
>> "posts".
> 
> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.

Only in this newgroup; in the real world it is enlightened curiosity.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#551057

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-07 07:57 -0800
Message-ID<b2171dc6-10e5-495e-a4a3-cc9a84a1e71c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#550938
> Ignorance is the driving force in physics. 

Only in this newgroup; in the real world it is enlightened curiosity.
--------------

I don't know about you but I see amazing levels of ignorance in the real world on a daily basis.

It's part of the reason I don't typically carry concealed when I mingle with the unwashed masses.

My 'lessons' are a bit harsh.

However, this group does seem to be a nexus for scientific ignorance as you stated

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#551071

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-07 12:26 -0500
Message-ID<n7Lty.48185$kh1.7303@fx16.iad>
In reply to#551057
On 02/07/2016 10:57 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> Ignorance is the driving force in physics.
>
> Only in this newgroup; in the real world it is enlightened curiosity.
> --------------
>
> I don't know about you but I see amazing levels of ignorance in the real world on a daily basis.
>
> It's part of the reason I don't typically carry concealed when I mingle with the unwashed masses.
>
> My 'lessons' are a bit harsh.
>
> However, this group does seem to be a nexus for scientific ignorance as you stated
>
Led by himself, natch.

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