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| Started by | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| First post | 2015-08-15 07:46 +0200 |
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Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-15 07:46 +0200
Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 23:00 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:26 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-15 18:26 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-15 23:37 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-15 18:55 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-16 01:09 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-16 09:50 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-16 09:21 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-16 04:22 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-15 21:39 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:47 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-16 07:12 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-16 00:34 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-16 21:17 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-16 18:35 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 00:09 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 17:46 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-17 04:19 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 23:24 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) Checkmate <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-08-16 20:41 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:56 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) Checkmate <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-08-16 20:56 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 03:43 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-16 23:28 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 05:03 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah ) Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-08-17 09:26 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah #2 ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-17 09:20 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah #2 ) Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-08-17 10:28 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah #2 ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-17 09:37 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah #2 ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 17:38 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah #2 ) Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-08-17 17:41 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah #2 ) Checkmate <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-08-17 08:04 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( Checkmated checkmate ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-17 10:26 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( Checkmated checkmate ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 17:39 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( Checkmated checkmate ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 16:43 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah #2 ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 16:43 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah #2 ) Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-08-17 19:46 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( to Sarah #2 ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 17:35 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 04:56 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-17 08:09 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE Perimeter Walls ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-17 06:48 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE Perimeter Walls ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-17 17:05 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE credentials ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-17 10:23 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE credentials ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-17 19:27 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE is a complete idiot ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-17 12:45 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE is a complete idiot ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-18 05:00 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-18 11:17 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-18 17:10 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-18 14:27 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-18 18:37 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-19 10:34 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-19 16:35 +0100
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-19 18:14 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-19 17:53 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-19 17:33 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 18:05 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-20 00:07 +0100
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-21 14:15 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-21 19:55 +0100
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-21 16:05 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 16:17 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-21 21:31 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-21 23:51 +0100
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( jim + seismographs ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-19 23:07 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-18 15:07 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( TVfolery ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-18 18:07 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( TVfolery ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-18 23:28 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( TVfolery ) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-19 08:25 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( TVfolery ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-19 17:55 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( TVfolery ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 18:05 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( TVfoolery ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-19 09:21 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( TVfoolery ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-19 17:57 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( TVfolery ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 04:06 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-19 08:07 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:25 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-19 09:46 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-19 09:15 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-19 16:37 +0100
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-19 17:59 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 14:11 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 18:05 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-19 19:51 -0400
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 04:06 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-19 04:16 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-19 08:32 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE has to subtract 14 ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-19 17:35 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE credentials ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 17:42 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE credentials ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 16:39 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE avoided the Perimeter Walls ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE avoided the Perimeter Walls ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 20:58 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE avoided the Perimeter Walls ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-17 16:17 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE avoided the Perimeter Walls ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 23:00 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE avoided the Perimeter Walls ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 16:40 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE avoided the Perimeter Walls ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-18 07:22 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE avoided the Perimeter Walls ) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-18 07:05 +0200
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( FNVWE Perimeter Walls ) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-17 17:41 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 04:17 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... (laughing at FNVWE) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-16 09:14 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... (laughing at FNVWE) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 12:53 -0500
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... (laughing at FNVWE) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-16 21:17 +0200
yo, dOOds noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:41 -0700
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-16 05:52 +0000
Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 08:35 -0500
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 07:46 +0200 |
| Subject | Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... |
| Message-ID | <c4c9512323b4a035cd577f770cf21c1b@dizum.com> |
The mass-energy equivalency concept proves that the EMP experienced at the WTC sites was a result of a chemical explosion, not a nuclear one. There is a quantifiable loss of mass converted to energy (other than the energy released via the chemical reaction), to the tune of approximately 0.47e-10 kg per original kg of TNT, which is able to be stated thusly: "In all interactions, there is a loss of mass, equal to 1/c2 times the amount of energy released." Note that the above quote says "In ALL interactions". ALL. Every release of energy is subject to the mass-energy equivalency concept. This relates to Einstein's mass-energy equivalency equation: E^2 = P^2 * c^2 + m^2 * c^4 The 15,000 gallons of jet fuel dumped into the WTC towers during the crash would have released 10^12 joules of energy over the 56 and 104 minutes the fires burned prior to collapse, giving an ongoing EMP of 47000 joules total. Or only ~27 joules for the initial explosions, which would likely have taken place over approximately 4 seconds, or 2.7^-8 watts for the initial explosion. Not nearly enough to blow out IC chips, but enough to temporarily disrupt the video. A few watts are sufficient to destroy most ICs, when delivered in a few nanoseconds (as would happen in an instantaneous nuclear explosion). 10^-1 Joules over 10^-8 seconds = 10 watts. A small (~1 kiloton) nuclear device can deliver this amount of instantaneous power to destroy IC chips in the immediate vicinity. A jet fuel explosion is slow enough (time span of seconds) that it would release enough EMP to disrupt video cameras, whereas the instantaneous explosion (time span of nanoseconds) and thus sharp EMP spike of a nuclear weapon would damage electronics. A 150 kt nuclear device would burn out electronics for miles around. If there'd been a nuke explosion at the WTC site, there would be no video of the immediate aftermath. All the cameras would have been burned out. Educate yourself, you idiot: http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2 Kook. LOL -- Kadaitcha Man (aka HalfADickRick Mather) is an AUK veteran from way back. He was actually stupid enough to try to hook up with that AUK pass-around girl Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries (aka Rhonda Russo), but ended up booting her to the curb because she's just a cunt hair away from being that nucking futs cat lady dragging a folding cart filled with recyclables so she can afford to buy cat food for herself and her dozen cats. He dodged a bullet, given that she now looks like a reject from a zombie slasher flick, has cancer, hypothyroidism, bulging neck goiters, rotting gums, missing teeth, thinning hair, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Autism and is just plumb nutz. HalfADickRick lost his better half in a motorcycle accident, so even if he had hooked up with Rhondumb, he'd have to get a surrogate to bed her. He's got growling menacingly down to a science, but toothless old dogs have had plenty of time to practice. He has first-hand experience with gaiety, given that his oldest son wasn't raised right and turned out to be light in the loafers... which limits HalfADickRick's trolling abilities and precludes him laughing at the sissies. So he lost half his dick *and* now has no balls for trolling. "Big things are made out of little things." HalfADickRick Mather's Grand Unified Theory of the Universe. Message-ID: <d7419da693ffc53a544d5e1569ac9bfc@dizum.com> "all matter appeared simultaneously in all places at once (i.e. everywhere at the same time)" Delusional fuckwit HalfADickRick denying nucleosynthesis, nuclear transmutation, universal expansion, hydrogen consisting of most universal mass, cosmic background radiation, 21 cm radiation, the very means by which matter came to be formed from energy after the big bang, and most importantly, reality. Message-ID: <9eb660cc06ece30da6a8e7a947a65dfb@dizum.com> HalfADickRick believes these two statements mean the same thing... he's too stupid to realize the contradiction within the statements: 1) "When you touch something, you don't actually touch it because the negative charge of the electrons in all matter repel each other." 2) "everything you experience is experienced only within your consciousness. That is, there is no reality apart from consciousness." MID: <269e51973939871be9eeaaef420f8a6c@dizum.com> "Who said it's your eyes that see?" HalfADickRick, yet again displaying his unfathomable stupidity. "The Turing test is overrated anyway." HalfADickRick, mad because he's too stupid to pass the Turing test. "The now you experience now simply moves to this now." HalfADickRick's excuse for living in the past. Message-ID: <2e6f960b0b8c4a738b1116b41865cb35@dizum.com> HalfADickRick projects what he thinks of himself: "A fairyboy with an inadequate penis." Message-ID: <d4e79c0adde0074ee812eba8d9023f97@dizum.com> HalfADickRick tried blaming his own screediness on a Visual Basic bot he programmed, k'laming it's artificially intelligent and able to hold contextually-relevant conversations without any assistance... when challenged to put Fred Tehbot to work producing 5000 intelligent and contextually relevant replies per day to random posts, an easy task for a machine, HalfADickRick started backpedaling, evading and hurling insults. In actuality, he was assisting his tardbot by screeding right alongside it to lend it the appearance of intelligence (but only the appearance, because HalfADickRick's pretty retarded LOL). Spanked to tears yet again by reality, he plonked and ran away, tears streaming, fright-piss flowing, a plaintive "WHHHHAAAAAAA!" issuing from his otherwise-dumbstruck mouth. <snicker>
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 23:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <203c048d-9347-46e2-8a41-7480c7fb9ac7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #513795 |
Saw the stupid name. Didn't read a word :)
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 16:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0860ba2a-f035-4cde-9214-3f69c192cda7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #513795 |
I always forget the longform, but it's nice to see how much fuel is required for the transcontinental flight of a 757 > E^2 = P^2 * c^2 + m^2 * c^4 > > The 15,000 gallons of jet fuel dumped into the WTC towers during > the crash would have released 10^12 joules of energy over the 56 > and 104 minutes the fires burned prior to collapse, giving an > ongoing EMP of 47000 joules total. Or only ~27 joules for the > initial explosions, which would likely have taken place over > approximately 4 seconds, or 2.7^-8 watts for the initial > explosion. Not nearly enough to blow out IC chips, but enough to > temporarily disrupt the video. > > A few watts are sufficient to destroy most ICs, when delivered in > a few nanoseconds (as would happen in an instantaneous nuclear > explosion). 10^-1 Joules over 10^-8 seconds = 10 watts. A small > (~1 kiloton) nuclear device can deliver this amount of > instantaneous power to destroy IC chips in the immediate > vicinity. > > A jet fuel explosion is slow enough (time span of seconds) that > it would release enough EMP to disrupt video cameras, whereas the > instantaneous explosion (time span of nanoseconds) and thus sharp > EMP spike of a nuclear weapon would damage electronics. > > A 150 kt nuclear device would burn out electronics for miles > around. If there'd been a nuke explosion at the WTC site, there > would be no video of the immediate aftermath. All the cameras > would have been burned out. > > Educate yourself, you idiot: > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2 > > Kook. LOL > > -- > > Kadaitcha Man (aka HalfADickRick Mather) is an AUK veteran from > way back. He was actually stupid enough to try to hook up with > that AUK pass-around girl Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries (aka Rhonda > Russo), but ended up booting her to the curb because she's just a > cunt hair away from being that nucking futs cat lady dragging a > folding cart filled with recyclables so she can afford to buy cat > food for herself and her dozen cats. He dodged a bullet, given > that she now looks like a reject from a zombie slasher flick, has > cancer, hypothyroidism, bulging neck goiters, rotting gums, > missing teeth, thinning hair, Dissociative Identity Disorder, > Autism and is just plumb nutz. HalfADickRick lost his better half > in a motorcycle accident, so even if he had hooked up with > Rhondumb, he'd have to get a surrogate to bed her. He's got > growling menacingly down to a science, but toothless old dogs > have had plenty of time to practice. He has first-hand experience > with gaiety, given that his oldest son wasn't raised right and > turned out to be light in the loafers... which limits > HalfADickRick's trolling abilities and precludes him laughing at > the sissies. So he lost half his dick *and* now has no balls for > trolling. > > "Big things are made out of little things." > HalfADickRick Mather's Grand Unified Theory of the Universe. > > Message-ID: <d7419da693ffc53a544d5e1569ac9bfc@dizum.com> > "all matter appeared simultaneously in all places at once (i.e. > everywhere at the same time)" > Delusional fuckwit HalfADickRick denying nucleosynthesis, nuclear > transmutation, universal expansion, hydrogen consisting of most > universal mass, cosmic background radiation, 21 cm radiation, the > very means by which matter came to be formed from energy after > the big bang, and most importantly, reality. > > Message-ID: <9eb660cc06ece30da6a8e7a947a65dfb@dizum.com> > HalfADickRick believes these two statements mean the same > thing... he's too stupid to realize the contradiction within the > statements: > 1) "When you touch something, you don't actually touch it because > the negative charge of the electrons in all matter repel each > other." > 2) "everything you experience is experienced only within your > consciousness. That is, there is no reality apart from > consciousness." > > MID: <269e51973939871be9eeaaef420f8a6c@dizum.com> > "Who said it's your eyes that see?" > HalfADickRick, yet again displaying his unfathomable stupidity. > > "The Turing test is overrated anyway." > HalfADickRick, mad because he's too stupid to pass the Turing > test. > > "The now you experience now simply moves to this now." > HalfADickRick's excuse for living in the past. > > Message-ID: <2e6f960b0b8c4a738b1116b41865cb35@dizum.com> > HalfADickRick projects what he thinks of himself: > "A fairyboy with an inadequate penis." > > Message-ID: <d4e79c0adde0074ee812eba8d9023f97@dizum.com> > HalfADickRick tried blaming his own screediness on a Visual Basic > bot he programmed, k'laming it's artificially intelligent and > able to hold contextually-relevant conversations without any > assistance... when challenged to put Fred Tehbot to work > producing 5000 intelligent and contextually relevant replies per > day to random posts, an easy task for a machine, HalfADickRick > started backpedaling, evading and hurling insults. In actuality, > he was assisting his tardbot by screeding right alongside it to > lend it the appearance of intelligence (but only the appearance, > because HalfADickRick's pretty retarded LOL). Spanked to tears > yet again by reality, he plonked and ran away, tears streaming, > fright-piss flowing, a plaintive "WHHHHAAAAAAA!" issuing from his > otherwise-dumbstruck mouth. > > <snicker>
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 18:26 -0500 |
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"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote in message news:c4c9512323b4a035cd577f770cf21c1b@dizum.com... > The mass-energy equivalency concept proves that the EMP > experienced at the WTC sites was a result of a chemical > explosion, not a nuclear one. Then why was there a 12 second delay from when the ground shook and the EMP to when the top part of the Twin Towers crushed the vaporized part? And why can't you quote NIST instead of someone else who might had an interested in lying for the government? Rocky
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 23:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <63v4ac-u3s.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
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In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote: > Then why was there a 12 second delay from when the ground shook and the EMP > to when the top part of the Twin Towers crushed the vaporized part? Something that has been vaporized can not be then crushed, kook. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 18:55 -0500 |
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| In reply to | #514032 |
<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message news:63v4ac-u3s.ln1@mail.specsol.com... > In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote: > >> Then why was there a 12 second delay from when the ground shook and the >> EMP >> to when the top part of the Twin Towers crushed the vaporized part? > > Something that has been vaporized can not be then crushed, kook. Ok, so appeared to crush the vaporized part and there you go again with your nitpicking. You really should listen to Bast instead of doing your best to avoid her by refusing to post on alt.astronomy. Rocky
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 01:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lf45ac-cks.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #514034 |
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote: > > <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message > news:63v4ac-u3s.ln1@mail.specsol.com... >> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote: >> >>> Then why was there a 12 second delay from when the ground shook and the >>> EMP >>> to when the top part of the Twin Towers crushed the vaporized part? >> >> Something that has been vaporized can not be then crushed, kook. > > Ok, so appeared to crush the vaporized part and there you go again with your > nitpicking. Something that has been vaporized can not be then crushed, kook. <snip remaining kook babble> -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 09:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqq4bl$ge3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #514034 |
Rocky wrote: > <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message > news:63v4ac-u3s.ln1@mail.specsol.com... >> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote: >> >>> Then why was there a 12 second delay from when the ground shook and >>> the EMP >>> to when the top part of the Twin Towers crushed the vaporized part? >> >> Something that has been vaporized can not be then crushed, kook. > > Ok, so appeared to crush the vaporized part and there you go again with > your nitpicking. > > You really should listen to Bast instead of doing your best to avoid > her by refusing to post on alt.astronomy. > > Rocky PLEASE,....The last thing I want is for an idiot like that to be one of my followers. He's the reason why sane people end up getting restraining orders, and have to lock our doors at night. Besides,....He and the rest of the 9/11 official fairytalers, are the best advertising the 9/11 truth movement could ever have. ...And let's not ever tell them the truth about Santa, and the Easter bunny.....Or what the economy is REALLY like.
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 09:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8-adncMshLETAU3InZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #514259 |
"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote in message news:mqq4bl$ge3$1@dont-email.me... > > > Rocky wrote: >> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message >> news:63v4ac-u3s.ln1@mail.specsol.com... >>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Then why was there a 12 second delay from when the ground shook and >>>> the EMP >>>> to when the top part of the Twin Towers crushed the vaporized part? >>> >>> Something that has been vaporized can not be then crushed, kook. >> >> Ok, so appeared to crush the vaporized part and there you go again with >> your nitpicking. >> >> You really should listen to Bast instead of doing your best to avoid >> her by refusing to post on alt.astronomy. >> >> Rocky > > > > > > > PLEASE,....The last thing I want is for an idiot like that to be one of my > followers. > He's the reason why sane people end up getting restraining orders, and > have to lock our doors at night. > > Besides,....He and the rest of the 9/11 official fairytalers, are the > best advertising the 9/11 truth movement could ever have. > ...And let's not ever tell them the truth about Santa, and the Easter > bunny.....Or what the economy is REALLY like. :)
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 04:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <6b45c726d40c2a4a4edb3b9954a737cf@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #514023 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Rocky, in <news:MpednVQcrcJDV1LInZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> > wrote in message news:c4c9512323b4a035cd577f770cf21c1b@dizum.com... >> The mass-energy equivalency concept proves that the EMP >> experienced at the WTC sites was a result of a chemical >> explosion, not a nuclear one. Still snipping out all that evidence that you're a delusional retard too stupid to understand simple physics? LOL Fixored: >> The mass-energy equivalency concept proves that the EMP >> experienced at the WTC sites was a result of a chemical >> explosion, not a nuclear one. >> >> There is a quantifiable loss of mass converted to energy (other >> than the energy released via the chemical reaction), to the tune >> of approximately 0.47e-10 kg per original kg of TNT, which is >> able to be stated thusly: >> >> "In all interactions, there is a loss of mass, equal to 1/c2 >> times the amount of energy released." >> >> Note that the above quote says "In ALL interactions". ALL. Every >> release of energy is subject to the mass-energy equivalency >> concept. >> >> This relates to Einstein's mass-energy equivalency equation: >> E^2 = P^2 * c^2 + m^2 * c^4 >> >> The 15,000 gallons of jet fuel dumped into the WTC towers during >> the crash would have released 10^12 joules of energy over the 56 >> and 104 minutes the fires burned prior to collapse, giving an >> ongoing EMP of 47000 joules total. Or only ~27 joules for the >> initial explosions, which would likely have taken place over >> approximately 4 seconds, or 2.7^-8 watts for the initial >> explosion. Not nearly enough to blow out IC chips, but enough to >> temporarily disrupt the video. >> >> A few watts are sufficient to destroy most ICs, when delivered in >> a few nanoseconds (as would happen in an instantaneous nuclear >> explosion). 10^-1 Joules over 10^-8 seconds = 10 watts. A small >> (~1 kiloton) nuclear device can deliver this amount of >> instantaneous power to destroy IC chips in the immediate >> vicinity. >> >> A jet fuel explosion is slow enough (time span of seconds) that >> it would release enough EMP to disrupt video cameras, whereas the >> instantaneous explosion (time span of nanoseconds) and thus sharp >> EMP spike of a nuclear weapon would damage electronics. >> >> A 150 kt nuclear device would burn out electronics for miles >> around. If there'd been a nuke explosion at the WTC site, there >> would be no video of the immediate aftermath. All the cameras >> would have been burned out. >> >> Educate yourself, you idiot: >> http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2 >> >> Kook. LOL > Then why was there a 12 second delay from when the ground shook and the EMP > to when the top part of the Twin Towers crushed the vaporized part? The EMP took place, if you'll refer back to the link to the video *you* provided, when the planes hit the towers and exploded, *not* when the towers collapsed, you idiotic dipshit. LOL Here's the video *you* referenced when you tried to k'lame that no jet engine noise could be heard (although it's clearly audible in the video), and when you were trying to k'lame that the EMP was nuclear in nature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVEmAWaKoYQ The above camera was affected by the EMP. You'll note the EMP affected the camera at 21 seconds (right when the plane hit the building at 8:46:30 AM), then the sound of the crash, traveling slower, arrived at 23 seconds. That two second difference is important. We can assume the speed of light (at which the EMP traveled) meant the EMP arrived essentially instantaneously at the camera. The speed of sound (1125.6 feet per second at the 67 degrees F temperature at the time of the attack), and the fact that the first plane hit at 1162 feet from the base of the tower (and thus calculating the length of the legs of the triangle comprising the impact site, the bottom of the tower and the location of the camera) means the camera was approximately 1930 feet away from the twin towers, or 0.3655 miles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFiEgwLQVJk You'll note this camera, at a distance of a couple miles, wasn't affected by the EMP... if it'd been a nuke, it would have been burned out by the EMP. Thus, that weak EMP, which didn't burn out any cameras, only reached out to ~0.4 miles. Had it been a nuke, cameras (and all electronics) within a few dozen mile radius of the blast would have been burned out. Thus, the EMP was caused by the interaction of the plane hitting the building, and the fuel exploding. The lower intensity, longer duration (seconds time frame) EMP, so long you can see it as it persists in the video, was a result of a conventional explosion, not a nuclear one. Had it been a nuclear EMP, the short (nanoseconds time frame) but strong spike would have been the last thing you saw from that camera before it blew out all its electronics. And that's not even mentioning that the EMP took place when the planes hit the towers, not when the towers fell, as can be seen in the link to the video *you* provided, you moronic slackjaw. Kook. LOL > And why can't you quote NIST instead of someone else who might had an > interested in lying for the government? I don't have to quote anyone else. Reality is what reality is, and reality is controlled by physics. That you cannot comprehend even simple physics means you're one of those fat nose-picking retards who believes every stupid thing they read, no matter how implausible or impossible it might be. Kook. LOL > Rocky Kook. LOL -- Kadaitcha Man (aka HalfADickRick Mather) is an AUK veteran from way back. He was actually stupid enough to try to hook up with that AUK pass-around girl Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries (aka Rhonda Russo), but ended up booting her to the curb because she's just a cunt hair away from being that nucking futs cat lady dragging a folding cart filled with recyclables so she can afford to buy cat food for herself and her dozen cats. He dodged a bullet, given that she now looks like a reject from a zombie slasher flick, has cancer, hypothyroidism, bulging neck goiters, rotting gums, missing teeth, thinning hair, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Autism and is just plumb nutz. HalfADickRick lost his better half in a motorcycle accident, so even if he had hooked up with Rhondumb, he'd have to get a surrogate to bed her. He's got growling menacingly down to a science, but toothless old dogs have had plenty of time to practice. He has first-hand experience with gaiety, given that his oldest son wasn't raised right and turned out to be light in the loafers... which limits HalfADickRick's trolling abilities and precludes him laughing at the sissies. So he lost half his dick *and* now has no balls for trolling. "Big things are made out of little things." HalfADickRick Mather's Grand Unified Theory of the Universe. Message-ID: <d7419da693ffc53a544d5e1569ac9bfc@dizum.com> "all matter appeared simultaneously in all places at once (i.e. everywhere at the same time)" Delusional fuckwit HalfADickRick denying nucleosynthesis, nuclear transmutation, universal expansion, hydrogen consisting of most universal mass, cosmic background radiation, 21 cm radiation, the very means by which matter came to be formed from energy after the big bang, and most importantly, reality. Message-ID: <9eb660cc06ece30da6a8e7a947a65dfb@dizum.com> HalfADickRick believes these two statements mean the same thing... he's too stupid to realize the contradiction within the statements: 1) "When you touch something, you don't actually touch it because the negative charge of the electrons in all matter repel each other." 2) "everything you experience is experienced only within your consciousness. That is, there is no reality apart from consciousness." MID: <269e51973939871be9eeaaef420f8a6c@dizum.com> "Who said it's your eyes that see?" HalfADickRick, yet again displaying his unfathomable stupidity. "The Turing test is overrated anyway." HalfADickRick, mad because he's too stupid to pass the Turing test. "The now you experience now simply moves to this now." HalfADickRick's excuse for living in the past. Message-ID: <2e6f960b0b8c4a738b1116b41865cb35@dizum.com> HalfADickRick projects what he thinks of himself: "A fairyboy with an inadequate penis." Message-ID: <d4e79c0adde0074ee812eba8d9023f97@dizum.com> HalfADickRick tried blaming his own screediness on a Visual Basic bot he programmed, k'laming it's artificially intelligent and able to hold contextually-relevant conversations without any assistance... when challenged to put Fred Tehbot to work producing 5000 intelligent and contextually relevant replies per day to random posts, an easy task for a machine, HalfADickRick started backpedaling, evading and hurling insults. In actuality, he was assisting his tardbot by screeding right alongside it to lend it the appearance of intelligence (but only the appearance, because HalfADickRick's pretty retarded LOL). Spanked to tears yet again by reality, he plonked and ran away, tears streaming, fright-piss flowing, a plaintive "WHHHHAAAAAAA!" issuing from his otherwise-dumbstruck mouth. <snicker>
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 21:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <9e2dnSynY8CSZVLInZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #514077 |
"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote in message news:6b45c726d40c2a4a4edb3b9954a737cf@dizum.com... > > The EMP took place, if you'll refer back to the link to the video > *you* provided, when the planes hit the towers and exploded, > *not* when the towers collapsed, you idiotic dipshit. LOL Now wait a second. The link I use to support the fact EMPs were recorded in Nuke York City is: http://youtu.be/Jxpc6DBHeFA?t=3m30s And the EMP recorded by WCBS is recorded at the exact same time the ground shook as proven by a camera on the ground. And I can find that video too if you want to see it. Now if you are going to lie about my post I'll have no option but to ignore you along with Jim, Kent, dmaster and %. And do not forget the bottom line which is only Nuclear Controlled Demolitions can leave "Surviving Corners" when the deep underground nukes are detonated under an adjacent building as was the case with both the Twin Towers. See: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5090/1289/1600/Ground%20Zero%20on%209111.jpg
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| From | "%" <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 19:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8mlit5.fqp.17.1@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #514084 |
Rocky wrote: > "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" > <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote in message > news:6b45c726d40c2a4a4edb3b9954a737cf@dizum.com... >> >> The EMP took place, if you'll refer back to the link to the video >> *you* provided, when the planes hit the towers and exploded, >> *not* when the towers collapsed, you idiotic dipshit. LOL > > Now wait a second. The link I use to support the fact EMPs were > recorded in Nuke York City is: > http://youtu.be/Jxpc6DBHeFA?t=3m30s > > And the EMP recorded by WCBS is recorded at the exact same time the > ground shook as proven by a camera on the ground. And I can find > that video too if you want to see it. > > Now if you are going to lie about my post I'll have no option but to > ignore you along with Jim, Kent, dmaster and %. > > And do not forget the bottom line which is only Nuclear Controlled > Demolitions can leave "Surviving Corners" when the deep underground > nukes are detonated under an adjacent building as was the case with both > the Twin Towers. See: > http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5090/1289/1600/Ground%20Zero%20on%209111.jpg everything you say is wrong
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 07:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1087c0b89cb5fc3c07f44c1a14ed458c@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #514084 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Rocky, in <news:9e2dnSynY8CSZVLInZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> > wrote in message news:6b45c726d40c2a4a4edb3b9954a737cf@dizum.com... >> The EMP took place, if you'll refer back to the link to the video >> *you* provided, when the planes hit the towers and exploded, >> *not* when the towers collapsed, you idiotic dipshit. LOL > Now wait a second. The link I use to support the fact EMPs were recorded in > Nuke York City is: > http://youtu.be/Jxpc6DBHeFA?t=3m30s Bwahahaha! That wasn't an EMP, you clueless goof. That was satellite uplink interference. It happens from time to time. It likely was caused by so many news teams trying to uplink at the same time. Educate yourself, you brainless moron: <http://www.unidir.ch/files/conferences/pdfs/harmful-interference-regional-security-consequences-en-1-933.pdf> Like it happened at 0:47 seconds, and at 0:55 seconds, and at 1:06, 1:08, 1:18, 1:35, 1:41, 1:47, 1:51, 2:00, 2:03, 2:39, 2:40, 2:58, 3:16, 3:30, 3:38, 3:48, and 3:50 in that very video. LOL That long interference lasting from 3:38 to 3:44 wasn't an EMP from a nuke. Nuclear EMPs last on the order of nanoseconds, and they blow out electronic equipment *because* of their short duration, high intensity EMP spike, you retard. If it'd been a nuclear EMP, the *last* thing you would have seen from that camera would have been the EMP. Kook. LOL > And the EMP recorded by WCBS is recorded at the exact same time the ground > shook as proven by a camera on the ground. And I can find that video too if > you want to see it. That would be because the building was buckling and starting to fall, the vibrations traveling down the central support column to the ground. It was recorded on seismometers. Do you believe 1.5 million *tons* of steel and concrete just starts dropping immediately? The inertia of that much mass, combined with the supporting column still supporting some of the weight (despite it being weakened by the fire) means the building took a bit to get moving. It didn't start falling until 3:52, meaning your "12 seconds" calculation was off by two seconds, necessitating your "buried nukes" be buried even *deeper* (1/6th deeper) than the 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* (it would be 43.493 to 113.085 miles) below the WTC towers (a depth we can't even drill to today, let alone in 1968). LOL Besides, just how is anything supposed to survive the heat at that depth? The *reason* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al Shaheen oil well in Qatar is because it gets so fucking hot things start *melting* down there. Which means your "12 seconds" calculation is completely off. Little wonder, your entire grasping-at-straws conspiracy theory is completely off. Kook. LOL > Now if you are going to lie about my post I'll have no option but to ignore > you along with Jim, Kent, dmaster and %. Ah, is the kook going to run away from reality again? LOL > And do not forget the bottom line which is only Nuclear Controlled > Demolitions can leave "Surviving Corners" Bullshit. A nuke doesn't discriminate. If it's strong enough to "vaporize" (your word) a building, it's strong enough to reach all four corners of that building and utterly demolish it. The twin towers fell as they did (at a slight angle) because the planes slammed into them on one side. That caused one side to fail sooner than the other side, and the building fell away from the direction of your "Surviving Corner, Surviving Wall and Surviving Staircase". That there *was* a "Surviving Corner, Surviving Wall and Surviving Staircase" proves there was no controlled demolition, and it most certainly proves there was no nuke... not even taking into account the 5 reasons I gave you as to why a nuke could not have been detonated on that day: 1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to today, let alone back in 1968. 2) The EMP pulse (that wasn't an EMP pulse, but was satellite uplink interference) wasn't of sufficient intensity (because it was a chemical explosion and thus of longer duration and lower intensity) to do more than slightly disrupt the camera's video. If it'd been a nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused the camera's electronics to have burned out. No amount of shielding would have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for dozens of miles radius. 3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of radioactivity for decades. It was most likely depleted uranium, used as counterweight in airplanes. So either the planes were switched for 747s, or Boeing lied and was using DU instead of tungsten in the 767s in question. Or the Americium in the smoke detectors was scattered so finely that it was able to quickly decay to a level below background radiation levels, but that'd be beta radiation... you didn't specify what type of radiation was experienced, and I doubt you're smart or educated enough to even know what types of radiation there are. 4) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed, from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take something on the order of 2 MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were buried. 5) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron source. It naturally decays over time, and its decay byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any sort of nuclear chain reaction. Kook. LOL > when the deep underground nukes Which didn't exist, and couldn't have existed. And most certainly couldn't have existed for 33 years and still remain viable. > are detonated under an adjacent building as was the case with both the Twin > Towers. See: > http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5090/1289/1600/Ground%20Zero%20on%209111.jpg That looks like a huge fucking pile of rubble, and proof that the towers fell away from your "Surviving Corner, Surviving Wall and Surviving Staircase", sparing the lives of the people there. Which means that no nuke could have been detonated. Kook. LOL -- Kadaitcha Man (aka HalfADickRick Mather) is an AUK veteran from way back. He was actually stupid enough to try to hook up with that AUK pass-around girl Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries (aka Rhonda Russo), but ended up booting her to the curb because she's just a cunt hair away from being that nucking futs cat lady dragging a folding cart filled with recyclables so she can afford to buy cat food for herself and her dozen cats. He dodged a bullet, given that she now looks like a reject from a zombie slasher flick, has cancer, hypothyroidism, bulging neck goiters, rotting gums, missing teeth, thinning hair, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Autism and is just plumb nutz. HalfADickRick lost his better half in a motorcycle accident, so even if he had hooked up with Rhondumb, he'd have to get a surrogate to bed her. He's got growling menacingly down to a science, but toothless old dogs have had plenty of time to practice. He has first-hand experience with gaiety, given that his oldest son wasn't raised right and turned out to be light in the loafers... which limits HalfADickRick's trolling abilities and precludes him laughing at the sissies. So he lost half his dick *and* now has no balls for trolling. "Big things are made out of little things." HalfADickRick Mather's Grand Unified Theory of the Universe. Message-ID: <d7419da693ffc53a544d5e1569ac9bfc@dizum.com> "all matter appeared simultaneously in all places at once (i.e. everywhere at the same time)" Delusional fuckwit HalfADickRick denying nucleosynthesis, nuclear transmutation, universal expansion, hydrogen consisting of most universal mass, cosmic background radiation, 21 cm radiation, the very means by which matter came to be formed from energy after the big bang, and most importantly, reality. Message-ID: <9eb660cc06ece30da6a8e7a947a65dfb@dizum.com> HalfADickRick believes these two statements mean the same thing... he's too stupid to realize the contradiction within the statements: 1) "When you touch something, you don't actually touch it because the negative charge of the electrons in all matter repel each other." 2) "everything you experience is experienced only within your consciousness. That is, there is no reality apart from consciousness." MID: <269e51973939871be9eeaaef420f8a6c@dizum.com> "Who said it's your eyes that see?" HalfADickRick, yet again displaying his unfathomable stupidity. "The Turing test is overrated anyway." HalfADickRick, mad because he's too stupid to pass the Turing test. "The now you experience now simply moves to this now." HalfADickRick's excuse for living in the past. Message-ID: <2e6f960b0b8c4a738b1116b41865cb35@dizum.com> HalfADickRick projects what he thinks of himself: "A fairyboy with an inadequate penis." Message-ID: <d4e79c0adde0074ee812eba8d9023f97@dizum.com> HalfADickRick tried blaming his own screediness on a Visual Basic bot he programmed, k'laming it's artificially intelligent and able to hold contextually-relevant conversations without any assistance... when challenged to put Fred Tehbot to work producing 5000 intelligent and contextually relevant replies per day to random posts, an easy task for a machine, HalfADickRick started backpedaling, evading and hurling insults. In actuality, he was assisting his tardbot by screeding right alongside it to lend it the appearance of intelligence (but only the appearance, because HalfADickRick's pretty retarded LOL). Spanked to tears yet again by reality, he plonked and ran away, tears streaming, fright-piss flowing, a plaintive "WHHHHAAAAAAA!" issuing from his otherwise-dumbstruck mouth. <snicker>
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 00:34 -0500 |
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"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote in message news:1087c0b89cb5fc3c07f44c1a14ed458c@dizum.com... > Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> > > Rocky, in <news:9e2dnSynY8CSZVLInZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@giganews.com> > did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > >> "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> >> wrote in message news:6b45c726d40c2a4a4edb3b9954a737cf@dizum.com... > >>> The EMP took place, if you'll refer back to the link to the video >>> *you* provided, when the planes hit the towers and exploded, >>> *not* when the towers collapsed, you idiotic dipshit. LOL > >> Now wait a second. The link I use to support the fact EMPs were recorded >> in >> Nuke York City is: >> http://youtu.be/Jxpc6DBHeFA?t=3m30s > > Bwahahaha! That wasn't an EMP, you clueless goof. That was > satellite uplink interference. It happens from time to time. It > likely was caused by so many news teams trying to uplink at the > same time. riiight that just happened at the exact same times that they needed nukes to go off to do what was done to the North Tower. You are too funny and your bullshit is sickening at the same time. Rocky
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 21:17 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4a5747b722c6584f0c857d36c83e8efd@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #514140 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Rocky, in <news:KqednYgMy49kvU3InZ2dnUU7-UOdnZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> > wrote in message news:1087c0b89cb5fc3c07f44c1a14ed458c@dizum.com... >> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> >> >> Rocky, in <news:9e2dnSynY8CSZVLInZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@giganews.com> >> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: >>> "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> >>> wrote in message news:6b45c726d40c2a4a4edb3b9954a737cf@dizum.com... >>>> The EMP took place, if you'll refer back to the link to the video >>>> *you* provided, when the planes hit the towers and exploded, >>>> *not* when the towers collapsed, you idiotic dipshit. LOL >>> Now wait a second. The link I use to support the fact EMPs were recorded >>> in Nuke York City is: >>> http://youtu.be/Jxpc6DBHeFA?t=3m30s >> Bwahahaha! That wasn't an EMP, you clueless goof. That was >> satellite uplink interference. It happens from time to time. It >> likely was caused by so many news teams trying to uplink at the >> same time. Yet again snipping out all that evidence that you're a delusional idiot? Fixored: >> Bwahahaha! That wasn't an EMP, you clueless goof. That was >> satellite uplink interference. It happens from time to time. It >> likely was caused by so many news teams trying to uplink at the >> same time. >> >> Educate yourself, you brainless moron: >> <http://www.unidir.ch/files/conferences/pdfs/harmful-interference-regional-security-consequences-en-1-933.pdf> >> >> Like it happened at 0:47 seconds, and at 0:55 seconds, and at >> 1:06, 1:08, 1:18, 1:35, 1:41, 1:47, 1:51, 2:00, 2:03, 2:39, 2:40, >> 2:58, 3:16, 3:30, 3:38, 3:48, and 3:50 in that very video. LOL >> >> That long interference lasting from 3:38 to 3:44 wasn't an EMP >> from a nuke. Nuclear EMPs last on the order of nanoseconds, and >> they blow out electronic equipment *because* of their short >> duration, high intensity EMP spike, you retard. >> >> If it'd been a nuclear EMP, the *last* thing you would have seen >> from that camera would have been the EMP. >> >> Kook. LOL > riiight that just happened at the exact same times that they needed nukes to > go off to do what was done to the North Tower. No one "needed nukes to go off". I patiently explained to your retarded ass just a couple days ago how the buildings were unintentionally designed such that in just this scenario, they *would* fall. I'm not the only one who saw it, the building designers had received warnings about the building not being able to withstand an aircraft strike and subsequent fire from as far back as 1971, but they ignored those warnings. And as I patiently explained to your retarded ass immediately above, the satellite uplink interference you saw several times on the video wasn't EMP, most especially from a nuke. A nuclear device explodes so quickly (time frame of nanoseconds) that its EMP spike is very short, but very strong. Thus the last thing you would have seen from that camera would have been it burning out from the EMP. There wouldn't have been any footage of the tower falling. No amount of shielding would protect the delicate electronics in the camera. Nuclear test sites use cameras in a virgin borated polyethylene and lead-lined room fed by fiber optics to get the picture to the camera. Besides, here's a camera that got a video of the collapse from much closer, and didn't experience *any* EMP: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo> You'll note the vibration 13 seconds before the collapse, which was the central support column buckling and 1.4 million tons of building beginning to move. But you'll note from this very, very close camera that *no* EMP was evident. Had there been a nuke EMP, that camera would be burned out so quickly we wouldn't even have gotten a chance to see the vibration prior to the collapse, let alone the collapse itself. Here's a camera *inside* the WTC tower *while* *it* *was* *collapsing*... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo> You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP. Those two pieces of evidence alone completely destroy your kook konspiracy theory. How many different ways has your kooky theory been torn apart? Eight? Kook. > You are too funny and your bullshit is sickening at the same time. You're projecting, Kook. > Rocky Kook. LOL -- Kadaitcha Man (aka HalfADickRick Mather) is an AUK veteran from way back. He was actually stupid enough to try to hook up with that AUK pass-around girl Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries (aka Rhonda Russo), but ended up booting her to the curb because she's just a cunt hair away from being that nucking futs cat lady dragging a folding cart filled with recyclables so she can afford to buy cat food for herself and her dozen cats. He dodged a bullet, given that she now looks like a reject from a zombie slasher flick, has cancer, hypothyroidism, bulging neck goiters, rotting gums, missing teeth, thinning hair, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Autism and is just plumb nutz. HalfADickRick lost his better half in a motorcycle accident, so even if he had hooked up with Rhondumb, he'd have to get a surrogate to bed her. He's got growling menacingly down to a science, but toothless old dogs have had plenty of time to practice. He has first-hand experience with gaiety, given that his oldest son wasn't raised right and turned out to be light in the loafers... which limits HalfADickRick's trolling abilities and precludes him laughing at the sissies. So he lost half his dick *and* now has no balls for trolling. "Big things are made out of little things." HalfADickRick Mather's Grand Unified Theory of the Universe. Message-ID: <d7419da693ffc53a544d5e1569ac9bfc@dizum.com> "all matter appeared simultaneously in all places at once (i.e. everywhere at the same time)" Delusional fuckwit HalfADickRick denying nucleosynthesis, nuclear transmutation, universal expansion, hydrogen consisting of most universal mass, cosmic background radiation, 21 cm radiation, the very means by which matter came to be formed from energy after the big bang, and most importantly, reality. Message-ID: <9eb660cc06ece30da6a8e7a947a65dfb@dizum.com> HalfADickRick believes these two statements mean the same thing... he's too stupid to realize the contradiction within the statements: 1) "When you touch something, you don't actually touch it because the negative charge of the electrons in all matter repel each other." 2) "everything you experience is experienced only within your consciousness. That is, there is no reality apart from consciousness." MID: <269e51973939871be9eeaaef420f8a6c@dizum.com> "Who said it's your eyes that see?" HalfADickRick, yet again displaying his unfathomable stupidity. "The Turing test is overrated anyway." HalfADickRick, mad because he's too stupid to pass the Turing test. "The now you experience now simply moves to this now." HalfADickRick's excuse for living in the past. Message-ID: <2e6f960b0b8c4a738b1116b41865cb35@dizum.com> HalfADickRick projects what he thinks of himself: "A fairyboy with an inadequate penis." Message-ID: <d4e79c0adde0074ee812eba8d9023f97@dizum.com> HalfADickRick tried blaming his own screediness on a Visual Basic bot he programmed, k'laming it's artificially intelligent and able to hold contextually-relevant conversations without any assistance... when challenged to put Fred Tehbot to work producing 5000 intelligent and contextually relevant replies per day to random posts, an easy task for a machine, HalfADickRick started backpedaling, evading and hurling insults. In actuality, he was assisting his tardbot by screeding right alongside it to lend it the appearance of intelligence (but only the appearance, because HalfADickRick's pretty retarded LOL). Spanked to tears yet again by reality, he plonked and ran away, tears streaming, fright-piss flowing, a plaintive "WHHHHAAAAAAA!" issuing from his otherwise-dumbstruck mouth. <snicker>
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 18:35 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) |
| Message-ID | <s5adncBzLesXg0zInZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #514426 |
"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote in message news:4a5747b722c6584f0c857d36c83e8efd@dizum.com... > Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Thanks for your input but now you have some other issues to address. >>> If it'd been a nuclear EMP, the *last* thing you would have seen >>> from that camera would have been the EMP. There were quite a few digital devices at Ground Zero that quit working and if someone knows there is a possible EMP in the area from a deep underground nuke all they had to do is enclose the electronics in a faraday cage since there is also a lot of rock in the way. >> riiight that just happened at the exact same times that they needed nukes >> to >> go off to do what was done to the North Tower. > > No one "needed nukes to go off". I patiently explained to your > retarded ass just a couple days ago how the buildings were > unintentionally designed such that in just this scenario, they > *would* fall. I'm not the only one who saw it, the building > designers had received warnings about the building not being able > to withstand an aircraft strike and subsequent fire from as far > back as 1971, but they ignored those warnings. And yet the steel in the outside walls was still twice as thick as that on the front end of a tank so why would someone say such a thing? BTW I've heard the exact opposite so someone is lying. > And as I patiently explained to your retarded ass immediately > above, the satellite uplink interference you saw several times on > the video wasn't EMP, most especially from a nuke. A nuclear > device explodes so quickly (time frame of nanoseconds) that its > EMP spike is very short, but very strong. That might be true for airborne nukes but what do you really know about EMPs from deep underground nukes? > Thus the last thing you > would have seen from that camera would have been it burning out > from the EMP. There wouldn't have been any footage of the tower > falling. No amount of shielding would protect the delicate > electronics in the camera. Nuclear test sites use cameras in a > virgin borated polyethylene and lead-lined room fed by fiber > optics to get the picture to the camera. Yes, I've seen that they use a hell of a lot of fiber obtic cables when they film underground nukes. But why don't we ever get to see any of those videos and why aren't we told what they learned? <G> From the very sparse remains of the Twin Towers the people that did all the testing of underground nukes knew how to make them appear as if the Twin Towers were not brought down by nukes but part of their trick was to film the top of the Twin Towers when the nuke goes off way undergroud. > Besides, here's a camera that got a video of the collapse from > much closer, and didn't experience *any* EMP: > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo> > > You'll note the vibration 13 seconds before the collapse, which > was the central support column buckling and 1.4 million tons of > building beginning to move. ROTFLMAO because you are trying to tell me the building began to move, stopped and then started again in 12-13 seconds at a 66% freefall all the way down to the ground? And just how do you get 66% of freefall all the way down to the ground with spotty damage? That does not make sense either. But then again, what I'm more interested in is why there were so many different helicopters in the area that filmed the North Tower without filming some of the other helicopters? It was like the background was fake and who knows what else was fake. ----------------------------- The other possibility is that the ground shaking coincides with when the deep underground nuke was detonated and it took 12 seconds to work through all the rock it was under. Then it only vaporized up to the alleged impact area to make people blame the 66% of freefall on a CGI. <G> And given that the CGIs didn't have any crash dynamics whatsoever who knows what other bs we were given about the deep underground nukes going off at "Ground Zero." More about this in the second video listed below. And given that people that added the CGIs to videos also left the synchronization flash in the videos why should we believe the CGIs were real? Especially after seeing right through the bullshit we were given about the Pentagon and Pranksville, PA. Also see: 9/11 no planes compilation - interesting! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BswpAgwBNEw and 07 - The Key ( time indexed to start with the CGI ) https://youtu.be/Rml2TL5N8ds?t=30m35s > But you'll note from this very, very > close camera that *no* EMP was evident. Had there been a nuke > EMP, that camera would be burned out so quickly we wouldn't even > have gotten a chance to see the vibration prior to the collapse, > let alone the collapse itself. It is very obvious to me you are confusing airborne nukes with deep underground nukes so why can't you point out the difference? > Here's a camera *inside* the WTC tower *while* *it* *was* > *collapsing*... > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo> > You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column > buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No > amount of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP. ROTFLMAO because if that came from the Naudet Brothers documentary that documentary shows clear evidence of being manipulated on a close of up the first CGI. They knew the cutout in the North Tower was too short for the alleged 767 that was supposed to have rammed it so they extended the cutout. . > Those two pieces of evidence alone completely destroy your kook > konspiracy theory. How many different ways has your kooky theory > been torn apart? Eight? Your story about the start and stop and restart of the collapse is questionable and your story about EMPs doesn't take into account the nukes detonated way underground in solid rock. Plus you have never even tried to address how two 110 story buildings could leave so little debris on the ground and yet leave walls that didn't have anything supporting them and stood from 6 to 8 stories tall. And yes, I've looked at your photos in another post and they don't really compare to the Twin Towers. As for the other EMPs recorded in the video by WCBS. Those could also have been from the much smaller nukes they used to cutout a hole in WTC6 and in other areas. See: Surreal Pictures Inside WTC 6 Destroys 9/11 Cover Story For Ever ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4FkO5ry1uo Rocky
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 00:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) |
| Message-ID | <kbl7ac-hgf.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #514494 |
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote: > There were quite a few digital devices at Ground Zero that quit working and > if someone knows there is a possible EMP in the area from a deep underground > nuke all they had to do is enclose the electronics in a faraday cage since > there is also a lot of rock in the way. No one knew anything about an EMP, kook. The facts are some airliners were hijacked. Two of them crashed into the World Trade Center towers, starting fires which weakened the central support columns and the buildings collapesed almost 2 hours later. One of them crashed into the Pentagon causing a partial collapse of the western side and one of them crashed into a field in Pennsylvania. Everything else is kook babble. That there were nuclear exposives involved is kook babble. That there is missing rubble is kook babble. That there has ever been a nuclear building demolition is kook babble. That part of the buildings were vaporized is kook babble. That part of a building was left standing proves there were nuclear devices is kook babble. That there was an EMP is kook babble. That nuclear devices could be detonated underground and yet were not seen by every eismograph in the world is kook babble. That a failed US Government project that ended in 1973 has anything to do with what happened is kook babble. That the scene was radioactive is kook babble. That there is any simularity between New York and either Hiroshima or Nagasaki is kook babble. That the area was called ground zero proves the event was nuclear is kook babble. That a nuclear bomb can be buried for decades without maintenance and still be expected to work is kook babble. That non-government entities can obtain not one, but multiple nuclear bombs is kook babble. That there were not thousands of eyewitnesses who heard and saw the airplanes hit the towers is kook babble. That all the video was CGI is kook babble. That the exterior walls were designed to deflect airplanes is kook babble. That two of the aircraft landed somewhere else is kook babble. Capitalizing things that shouldn't be capitalized is kook babble. <snip remaining kook babble> -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 17:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) |
| Message-ID | <1614b6c6-68e0-467e-a1e6-6e60f1cdceb1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #514494 |
On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 4:36:46 PM UTC-7, Rocky wrote: > "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> > wrote in message news:4a5747b722c6584f0c857d36c83e8efd@dizum.com... > > Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> > > Thanks for your input but now you have some other issues to address. > > > >>> If it'd been a nuclear EMP, the *last* thing you would have seen > >>> from that camera would have been the EMP. > > There were quite a few digital devices at Ground Zero that quit working and > if someone knows there is a possible EMP in the area from a deep underground > nuke all they had to do is enclose the electronics in a faraday cage since > there is also a lot of rock in the way. You have yet to explain how the "vaporization zone" of a nuke can exist anywhere other than centered on the nuke. > And yet the steel in the outside walls was still twice as thick as that on > the front end of a tank so why would someone say such a thing? What fool says that? What's their evidence? > > And as I patiently explained to your retarded ass immediately > > above, the satellite uplink interference you saw several times on > > the video wasn't EMP, most especially from a nuke. A nuclear > > device explodes so quickly (time frame of nanoseconds) that its > > EMP spike is very short, but very strong. > > That might be true for airborne nukes but what do you really know about EMPs > from deep underground nukes? > And given that people that added the CGIs to videos also left the > synchronization flash in the videos Right- the CIA/whoever that made these videos to "fool everyone" were so INCOMPETENT that they left your so-called synch flash in? > Your story about the start and stop and restart of the collapse is > questionable and your story about EMPs doesn't take into account the nukes > detonated way underground in solid rock. All of the solid rock that would neatly contain the "vaporization zone"? That solid rock? By the way; why didn't your alleged deeply buried nukes create huge caverns that then collapsed afterward JUST LIKE ALL OF THE UNDERGROUND TESTS IN NEVADA? Oh, the rock was too solid? To a nuke there is no such thing as "solid rock"- there's only stuff that will turn to plasma, melt, or shatter. Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 04:19 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) |
| Message-ID | <a990909152ffc20d67bb56b180d7eb8b@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #514494 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Rocky, in <news:s5adncBzLesXg0zInZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> > wrote in message news:4a5747b722c6584f0c857d36c83e8efd@dizum.com... >> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> > Thanks for your input but now you have some other issues to address. You've not addressed any of the issues I've brought up... you know, that your kooky conspiracy theory violates the laws of physics, thus making your account of events an impossibility. Kook. LOL >>>> If it'd been a nuclear EMP, the *last* thing you would have seen >>>> from that camera would have been the EMP. > There were quite a few digital devices at Ground Zero that quit working and Yeah, because they got crushed, you fucking nong. Not because of an EMP. LOL > if someone knows there is a possible EMP in the area from a deep underground > nuke all they had to do is enclose the electronics in a faraday cage since > there is also a lot of rock in the way. Not true at all. You have no concept of how a Faraday cage works. If you did, you'd realize you've yet again embarrassed yourself with your stupidity. The wideband energy spike from a nuclear EMP would require a Faraday cage with holes smaller than the shortest wavelength RF in that EMP in order to effectively block the energy... and with such a wideband energy signature, there would effectively be *no* holes through which video could be taken. That's *why* nuclear test sites put their cameras in virgin borated polyethylene and lead-lined rooms with fiber optic feeds. Even a microwave oven's 1 millimeter holes will only block RF from ~24 GHz to ~300 GHz, whereas a nuclear EMP is called "DC to daylight" for a reason... it's extremely wide in frequency, and thus extremely difficult to block effectively. It's akin to trying to build a Faraday cage to block Zero Point Energy... a practical impossibility due to the extraordinarily wide range of frequencies which must be blocked, necessitating a Faraday cage with holes so small it might as well be a metal box with multiple layers of metal at various spacing to block all frequencies... in which case no video could be taken anyway. And it certainly wouldn't be portable enough to carry around. A subterranean nuclear explosion (especially one at depths of from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the WTC towers, as you k'lame in your kook conspiracy scenario) would produce a very large cone of EMP through the non-conductive rock, with only minimal attenuation from conductive topsoil. It'd be akin to a nuclear device detonated at that distance *above* the ground. Given that there was no conductive topsoil above the WTC site (the buildings sat on bedrock) and given that the building's basements were concrete (and thus would also not attenuate the EMP), if there had been any nuclear detonation at the WTC site, the EMP would have caused widespread outages of both electrical power and all electronic devices. The firefighter and police communication systems would have stopped working, the helicopters would have fallen out of the air, the lights in large portions of the city would have gone out as power substations burned out. Yet again, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about, you're spewing complete gibberish as though you knew what you were talking about, and you're making a fool of yourself in doing so. Kook. LOL >>> riiight that just happened at the exact same times that they needed nukes >>> to go off to do what was done to the North Tower. >> No one "needed nukes to go off". I patiently explained to your >> retarded ass just a couple days ago how the buildings were >> unintentionally designed such that in just this scenario, they >> *would* fall. I'm not the only one who saw it, the building >> designers had received warnings about the building not being able >> to withstand an aircraft strike and subsequent fire from as far >> back as 1971, but they ignored those warnings. > And yet the steel in the outside walls was still twice as thick as that on > the front end of a tank No, it wasn't. In the upper floors, the truss frame surround was as thin as 1/4". I've already discussed this twice. If you'd stop snipping out all the evidence of your insanity and actually review the evidence that you're badly in need of meds, you wouldn't have missed it twice. Kook. LOL > so why would someone say such a thing? BTW I've > heard the exact opposite so someone is lying. >> And as I patiently explained to your retarded ass immediately >> above, the satellite uplink interference you saw several times on >> the video wasn't EMP, most especially from a nuke. A nuclear >> device explodes so quickly (time frame of nanoseconds) that its >> EMP spike is very short, but very strong. > That might be true for airborne nukes but what do you really know about EMPs > from deep underground nukes? I've already discussed this once. If you'd stop snipping out the evidence that your whacko conspiracy theory is an impossibility, you'd not have missed it the first time. Yet again, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about, yet you blather on as though you do... and in the process you prove yourself to be a deeply psychologically troubled and severely mentally retarded individual. Kook. LOL >> Thus the last thing you >> would have seen from that camera would have been it burning out >> from the EMP. There wouldn't have been any footage of the tower >> falling. No amount of shielding would protect the delicate >> electronics in the camera. Nuclear test sites use cameras in a >> virgin borated polyethylene and lead-lined room fed by fiber >> optics to get the picture to the camera. > Yes, I've seen that they use a hell of a lot of fiber obtic cables when they > film underground nukes. But why don't we ever get to see any of those > videos and why aren't we told what they learned? <G> Because you have no need to know. Makes you wonder how *I* know, eh? Kook. LOL > From the very sparse remains of the Twin Towers You mean the 5 levels of the underground parking garage filled, along with approximately 15 stories of rubble piled on top of that? <http://911encyclopedia.com/wiki/index.php/World_Trade_Center_Debris_Pile_Mass_and_Volume> Kook. LOL > the people that did all the > testing of underground nukes knew how to make them appear as if the Twin > Towers were not brought down by nukes but part of their trick was to film > the top of the Twin Towers when the nuke goes off way undergroud. Except for all those private citizens who were also filming, who didn't experience any EMP on their cameras. Except for that camera *inside* the WTC tower *as* *it* *collapsed* that didn't experience any EMP. It only takes one such example to prove your "nuclear detonation" kook theory wrong, and there are several such examples. Do you believe the fireman carrying that camera inside the WTC was lugging it around in a heavy Faraday cage with holes so small that no video could be taken anyway? Kook. LOL >> Besides, here's a camera that got a video of the collapse from >> much closer, and didn't experience *any* EMP: >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo> >> >> You'll note the vibration 13 seconds before the collapse, which >> was the central support column buckling and 1.4 million tons of >> building beginning to move. > ROTFLMAO because you are trying to tell me the building began to move, > stopped and then started again in 12-13 seconds at a 66% freefall all the > way down to the ground? No, I'm telling you the perimeter supports failed due to the viscoelastic dampers burning up, the floor spars drooped and bent the central support column, the central support column started falling (which can be seen in the communications mast structure falling first), then as the central support column's support was removed as it fell, the rest of the truss frame surround buckled under the increased load and the floors fell. But good of you to admit the building didn't fall at freefall speed, as so many other conspiracy theory whackos do. Kook. LOL > And just how do you get 66% of freefall all the way down to the ground with > spotty damage? That does not make sense either. I made no mention of the speed of descent of the building, Kook, you did. Kook. LOL > But then again, what I'm more interested in is why there were so many > different helicopters in the area that filmed the North Tower without > filming some of the other helicopters? It was like the background was fake > and who knows what else was fake. The presence of those law enforcement helicopters, which showed up after the planes hit the towers, are proof positive that no nuclear EMP took place. Had we seen them all fall out of the sky at the same time, then you'd have a point, but they didn't... making your kooky conspiracy theory an impossibility. > ----------------------------- > > The other possibility is that the ground shaking coincides with when the > deep underground nuke There was no deep underground nuke because there were no nukes. This has been proven several different ways. That you persist in your delusion means your broken brain needs meds. All you are doing in persisting with your delusion is reinforcing the fact that you desperately need meds, nothing more. Kook. LOL > was detonated and it took 12 seconds to work through > all the rock it was under. Which would place it from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface... a depth to which we don't even have the technology to dig today, let alone in 1968. Which makes your kooky conspiracy theory an impossibility. Kook. LOL > Then it only vaporized up to the alleged impact > area to make people blame the 66% of freefall on a CGI. <G> > > And given that the CGIs There were no CGIs, your broken brain is just feeding you badly distorted data. Get back on your meds. Kook. LOL > didn't have any crash dynamics whatsoever who knows > what other bs we were given about the deep underground nukes going off at > "Ground Zero." More about this in the second video listed below. > > And given that people that added the CGIs to videos There were no CGIs, your broken brain is just feeding you badly distorted data. Get back on your meds. Kook. LOL > also left the > synchronization flash in the videos why should we believe the CGIs were > real? There were no CGIs, your broken brain is just feeding you badly distorted data. Get back on your meds. Kook. LOL > Especially after seeing right through the bullshit we were given > about the Pentagon and Pranksville, PA. Also see: > > 9/11 no planes compilation - interesting! > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BswpAgwBNEw > > and > > 07 - The Key > ( time indexed to start with the CGI ) > https://youtu.be/Rml2TL5N8ds?t=30m35s What meds are you supposed to be taking that you are not taking, Kook? LOL >> But you'll note from this very, very >> close camera that *no* EMP was evident. Had there been a nuke >> EMP, that camera would be burned out so quickly we wouldn't even >> have gotten a chance to see the vibration prior to the collapse, >> let alone the collapse itself. > It is very obvious to me you are confusing airborne nukes with deep > underground nukes so why can't you point out the difference? I did above, Kook. But you'll run away from the fact that you're speaking with someone who knows for a fact that your gibberish is complete and utter bullshit, and has proven it several different ways, just as you've run away from all that proof that your broken brain has led you to believe every implausible and impossible thing you read because you're too crazy and stupid to discern fantasy from reality. Kook. LOL >> Here's a camera *inside* the WTC tower *while* *it* *was* >> *collapsing*... >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo> >> You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column >> buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No >> amount of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP. > ROTFLMAO because if that came from the Naudet Brothers documentary that > documentary shows clear evidence of being manipulated on a close of up the > first CGI. They knew the cutout in the North Tower was too short for the > alleged 767 that was supposed to have rammed it so they extended the cutout. That was a video taken by a fireman at the scene, Kook. Proof positive that there was *no* EMP. Your kooky konspiracy theory has been utterly deconstructed, now what will you do? Kook. LOL >> Those two pieces of evidence alone completely destroy your kook >> konspiracy theory. How many different ways has your kooky theory >> been torn apart? Eight? > Your story about the start and stop and restart of the collapse I said nothing about "the start and stop and restart of the collapse", Ko0k, you did. Your lying about it doesn't make it so. Kook. LOL > is > questionable and your story about EMPs doesn't take into account the nukes > detonated way underground in solid rock. And solid rock would not attenuate an EMP because it cannot conduct electricity, and thus would not act as a Faraday cage, you moron. Conductive topsoil does act to attenuate EMP, but there was none of that at the WTC site, the buildings sat on bedrock. Kook. LOL > Plus you have never even tried to address how two 110 story buildings could > leave so little debris on the ground I've addressed that repeatedly by providing photos showing a 22 story hotel, with rubble piled three-fourths of the way up it. I've also provided photos showing the enormity of the rubble pile in relation to large equipment. Kook. LOL > and yet leave walls that didn't have > anything supporting them and stood from 6 to 8 stories tall. That has been addressed, as well. The buildings fell much as a tree does when it's chopped down, it falls in the direction it's cut. Thus, the buildings fell at a slight angle, leaving the wall at the back portion of the 'fall shadow' still standing. Kook. LOL > And yes, I've > looked at your photos in another post and they don't really compare to the > Twin Towers. So rather than accept that many other buildings have fallen in uncontrolled collapse and left intact walls, you run away from reality again. What about the 6 buildings of steel frame construction greater than 20 stories in height from 1970 to 2002 that collapsed as a result of fire-caused structural weakening? Each and every one of them had surviving sections of the buildings still standing. Kook. LOL > As for the other EMPs recorded in the video by WCBS. You're referring to this: Message-ID: <1087c0b89cb5fc3c07f44c1a14ed458c@dizum.com> ========================================== Bwahahaha! That wasn't an EMP, you clueless goof. That was satellite uplink interference. It happens from time to time. It likely was caused by so many news teams trying to uplink at the same time. Educate yourself, you brainless moron: <http://www.unidir.ch/files/conferences/pdfs/harmful-interference-regional-security-consequences-en-1-933.pdf> Like it happened at 0:47 seconds, and at 0:55 seconds, and at 1:06, 1:08, 1:18, 1:35, 1:41, 1:47, 1:51, 2:00, 2:03, 2:39, 2:40, 2:58, 3:16, 3:30, 3:38, 3:48, and 3:50 in that very video. LOL That long interference lasting from 3:38 to 3:44 wasn't an EMP from a nuke. Nuclear EMPs last on the order of nanoseconds, and they blow out electronic equipment *because* of their short duration, high intensity EMP spike, you retard. If it'd been a nuclear EMP, the *last* thing you would have seen from that camera would have been the EMP. Kook. LOL ========================================== There were no EMPs except for the very small EMP recorded on camera when the planes hit the buildings and the fuel exploded. A nuke EMP would have thrown most of the city into darkness and burned out all the cameras. That we see video of the immediate aftermath from several sources proves that no nuclear EMP took place. Thus your kooky conspiracy theory scenario is impossible. Kook. LOL > Those could also have > been from the much smaller nukes they used to cutout a hole in WTC6 and in > other areas. See: Ah, so now there weren't just three nukes, there were 19 of them... is that what you're now k'laming? LOL Your insanity is leading you into more and more implausible scenarios as your broken brain squirms like a trapped rat. Kook. LOL > Surreal Pictures Inside WTC 6 Destroys 9/11 Cover Story For Ever ! > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4FkO5ry1uo > > Rocky Kook. LOL -- Kadaitcha Man (aka HalfADickRick Mather) is an AUK veteran from way back. He was actually stupid enough to try to hook up with that AUK pass-around girl Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries (aka Rhonda Russo), but ended up booting her to the curb because she's just a cunt hair away from being that nucking futs cat lady dragging a folding cart filled with recyclables so she can afford to buy cat food for herself and her dozen cats. He dodged a bullet, given that she now looks like a reject from a zombie slasher flick, has cancer, hypothyroidism, bulging neck goiters, rotting gums, missing teeth, thinning hair, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Autism and is just plumb nutz. HalfADickRick lost his better half in a motorcycle accident, so even if he had hooked up with Rhondumb, he'd have to get a surrogate to bed her. He's got growling menacingly down to a science, but toothless old dogs have had plenty of time to practice. He has first-hand experience with gaiety, given that his oldest son wasn't raised right and turned out to be light in the loafers... which limits HalfADickRick's trolling abilities and precludes him laughing at the sissies. So he lost half his dick *and* now has no balls for trolling. "Big things are made out of little things." HalfADickRick Mather's Grand Unified Theory of the Universe. Message-ID: <d7419da693ffc53a544d5e1569ac9bfc@dizum.com> "all matter appeared simultaneously in all places at once (i.e. everywhere at the same time)" Delusional fuckwit HalfADickRick denying nucleosynthesis, nuclear transmutation, universal expansion, hydrogen consisting of most universal mass, cosmic background radiation, 21 cm radiation, the very means by which matter came to be formed from energy after the big bang, and most importantly, reality. Message-ID: <9eb660cc06ece30da6a8e7a947a65dfb@dizum.com> HalfADickRick believes these two statements mean the same thing... he's too stupid to realize the contradiction within the statements: 1) "When you touch something, you don't actually touch it because the negative charge of the electrons in all matter repel each other." 2) "everything you experience is experienced only within your consciousness. That is, there is no reality apart from consciousness." MID: <269e51973939871be9eeaaef420f8a6c@dizum.com> "Who said it's your eyes that see?" HalfADickRick, yet again displaying his unfathomable stupidity. "The Turing test is overrated anyway." HalfADickRick, mad because he's too stupid to pass the Turing test. "The now you experience now simply moves to this now." HalfADickRick's excuse for living in the past. Message-ID: <2e6f960b0b8c4a738b1116b41865cb35@dizum.com> HalfADickRick projects what he thinks of himself: "A fairyboy with an inadequate penis." Message-ID: <d4e79c0adde0074ee812eba8d9023f97@dizum.com> HalfADickRick tried blaming his own screediness on a Visual Basic bot he programmed, k'laming it's artificially intelligent and able to hold contextually-relevant conversations without any assistance... when challenged to put Fred Tehbot to work producing 5000 intelligent and contextually relevant replies per day to random posts, an easy task for a machine, HalfADickRick started backpedaling, evading and hurling insults. In actuality, he was assisting his tardbot by screeding right alongside it to lend it the appearance of intelligence (but only the appearance, because HalfADickRick's pretty retarded LOL). Spanked to tears yet again by reality, he plonked and ran away, tears streaming, fright-piss flowing, a plaintive "WHHHHAAAAAAA!" issuing from his otherwise-dumbstruck mouth. <snicker>
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Here, Rocky... prove yourself wrong... ( more 4 FNVWE ) |
| Message-ID | <GYSdnW2kw__J0kzInZ2dnUU7-K-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #514523 |
"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote in message news:a990909152ffc20d67bb56b180d7eb8b@dizum.com... > > Kook. LOL Kook? And yet it was you who was caught lying about the disappearing wing on the alleged Flight 175. > No, it wasn't. In the upper floors, the truss frame surround was > as thin as 1/4". The truss frame is what went between the core columns and the outside wall and I don't care about the truss frame I care about the thickness of the outside wall. I also stated you would have to provide a link because after your remark about the disappearing wing your "credibility is waning." And the cool thing about deleting your comments is I don't have to see you play an Internet Doctor with no credentials. Could it be what I'm really seeing is another meltdown just like what happened with Jim Pennino? And talking about Jim it was obvious he was losing it when he would refuse to post to alt.astronomy where Bast could help him. <G> Rocky
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