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  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 20:23 -0700
    Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 21:27 -0700
      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 06:41 -0700
        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 07:25 -0700
          Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-14 19:15 -0400
            Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 04:16 -0700
        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 04:14 -0700
          Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 07:28 -0700
            Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 09:13 -0700
              Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 13:49 -0700
                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-15 17:13 -0700
                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 05:08 -0700
                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-07-16 13:16 -0700
                  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 20:36 +0000
                    Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 01:06 -0400
                      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 22:50 -0700
                        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 01:58 -0400
                          Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 23:30 -0700
                      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-17 16:48 +0000
                        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-17 18:24 -0400
                          Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-17 23:57 +0000
                            Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 17:38 -0700
                  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 17:07 -0700
                    Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-07-17 14:36 -0700
              Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 18:03 -0700
                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 03:45 -0700
                  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 07:01 -0700
                    Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 08:09 -0700
              Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 23:50 -0700
          Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 07:56 -0700
    Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 03:03 -0700
      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-13 06:02 -0500
        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 04:40 -0700
        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 05:41 -0700
      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-14 18:59 -0400

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#640094 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 20:23 -0700
SubjectRe: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea
Message-ID<53b37ffc-5896-41fd-9684-a810a015d0b9@googlegroups.com>
On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 4:38:20 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:31:38 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:35:26 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:47:31 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 11:34:09 PM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> 
> <trim>
> 
> > > > > Look on The Dark Side, you end up saving bozos like HVAC! He he...
> > > > 
> > > > He too has his purpose in the world. The concept of Light cannot
> > > > exist without the Dark.  For serenity and peace, the Dark should be
> > > > a memory, and not a reality.
> > > 
> > > Ever hear the poem/song Ek Andhera Lakh Sitare (== One Darkness, Millions of Stars)?
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyfxAzIWxFo Ek==One Andhera==Darkness... so great!
> > > I've posted this song/link before, but not too many learned Hindus here. O(y)e...
> > 
> > I will look into this. If one had an eye as big as the Sun one could see no 
> > space at all but all the stars in the universe in one solid mass of brilliance.
> > Heavenly! 
> 
> That reads like you're extrapolating/interpeting the song. Poem's just so deep/good.

Actually I had not heard that song when I wrote the above. It came more from
the metaphysical experience narrated in my book "The Son of Hiranyaksh" in the
chapter "The Birth of Ganesha". (Seems to have been a bit too much for the
hvac entity, :-) )
I heard the song just now, twice. This is new to me. Rajesh Khanna was the last person with a heart in Hindi movies. Smita Patil too had a heart and it shows.
The good die young. Real people - not mobile cardboard cutouts - do not exist
these days in the film world.
This song is evidently about rejection, with an implied plea. It reminded me
of Tagore's "gohdulilogonay meghay dhekechilo tara" which I translated a long
time ago.
Very fortunately I do not relate to these rejection songs, such is my fortune
far beyond the worth of Mr Gates, that I relate to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF1yskvcrDQ

ae husn pari chehra...

O lady of angelic countenance
you are so full of kindness!
Of all the things in the world
you mean the absolute most to me.

> IndeevarJi is like one of my five top most favourite Poets/Lyricists. I adore Indeevar.

The good ones are all so good, difficult to choose. The wonder is how and why
the modern crop is SO bad. A gentleman who knows said that it has to do with
the way they do the music now - it is all created in different places and put
together artificially. No creativity, just manipulation. We should be thankful
for whatever has been done in the past. Enough to keep us going for keeps!
> 
> > > > > > As for going on with it, indeed I will and I do hope to get all the support
> > > > > > I need from the good people of the world.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, that's asking for too much. In reality, it's The Anti-Social-Media.
> > > > 
> > > > Don't I know it. To these heartless and soulless sell-outs, the sneeze of a 
> > > > popular celebrity is a million times more important than anything I do.
> > > 
> > > That's true the whole Earth over. Celebrities are mass marketed products.
> > > Marketing Majors are the greatest liars of all, even greater than Politicians.
> > > Even greater liars the whole Earth over? Glad you asked, The TrumpETs all!
> > > The real question is: Why do liars with short ADD, think we all suffer it?
> > > 
> > > ADD? Attention Deficit Disorder. In case I/You/We/Them/... just forgot.
> > 
> > Good question. My answer is, that in our history at one stage learned people
> > in power and authority were automatically respected. The masses are following
> > blind habit by idolising the pumped-up celebs. There is not much difference
> > between sheep and people. All the head honchos of organised religions know this
> > basic fact. Repeat any lie repeatedly, decorate it with buildings, make 
> > bearded figures say it impressively, then it becomes supreme truth for which
> > they will not just give their lives but also their money. In a secular age,
> > the pop merchants have replaced the beardos.
> 
> They're not always bearded. Besides, who had razors for shaving thousands of years ago?
> I'm a clean shaved Sikh. My MomJi hates it when I don't shave. No beards for you!
> She also says I'm gaining weight. Then she says I don't eat enough! O(y)e...
> 
> It is a good question and everyone should be asking it daily. Why do
> stupid people think we're all stupid? USA's TrumpET: I love Stupid People.

You had to be a Sikh! In this world of lies, run by liars, who can one depend
upon except the good old Sardarji? I have had mixed luck with Sikhs, though.
I still bear scar marks from my battles with Sikh twins, who were at the least
trying to blind me with calendar-knives, way back in 1966. Then there was my
dear, dear, dear Mr Singh the Khalistani terrorist with whom I had many an
exchange in usenet. On the other hand, Sikhs have supported me wonderfully at
my work, encouraged me to do MTech in CS, emgigrate to Australia... 
> 
> > It does not work on everyone, but those few who do not buy their nonsenses are
> > of course too few in number, disorganised, poor, etc. so they can be ignored
> > and discreetly persecuted as necessary. Good ideas from them are not welcome 
> > as they will show up the ruling ideologues as nincompoops if not criminals.
> 
> Do criminals know they're criminals? Of course they do.
> Do insurance salesmen know they're politicians? Of course they do.  
> Do politicians know they're hideous insurance salesmen? Of course they do.  
> Do lawyers know they're lying within/above the laws' limits? Of course they do.
> I could go on and On and ON! Moral? Jag Choro Ka Hai Dera (Bhagavad Gita==Song).
> TAN MAN DHAN sab hai tera, BIN Tere... No no NO HVAC, those are not acronyms.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3as3GN_GJ2Q tan man dhan sab hai tera
> 
> > Such is the situation as I find it, and the way the world works, it should 
> > last indefinitely. However the world does change fast - no one in 1913 thought
> > there would be two world wars coming up. One great mishap could be all that 
> > takes to upset the apple cart.
> 
> Hey, no one thought the Iran/Iraq/USA/... wars would last longer than
> the duration of WW1+WWII combined! It's GMICK at work 24/7. We need WAR!

The last US President who said that war was needed but against poverty etc. 
could not be tolerated, and so he was murdered. 
> 
> > > > At present I am watching a TV show on the last 100 days of Diana. How badly
> > > > the media hounded her, how her popularity in Australia led to her divorce with
> > > > the envious Charles, etc. Sad. The last decent person in the West, she could
> > > > not be allowed to exist, what.
> > > 
> > > I remember the day Diana died. In a billionaire's car crash, in a French tunnel.
> > > I still find the accident story by a alleged drunk chauffeur very suspicious/fishy.
> > 
> > Yes. Dodi's father thinks so, too. 
> 
> Diana died in a car. JFK killed in a car. Venus Williams killed a man by a car...
> I nearly got killed by a car. Man, I've got to learn to stay away from and out of cars!

In 1987 I was almost killed by a car as soon as I stepped on the road in USA,
as I looked the wrong way while trying to cross the road. 
> 
> <trim>
> 
> > I did think when I joined Usenet that there were millions of lurkers around who
> > lapped up every written word by the few players. I got that impression when
> > I read the terms and conditions that clearly stated that whatever we write can
> > be read by millions for all time to come and we should remember this. So have
> > the millions of possible lurkers never there to begin with, or have they 
> > suddenly been born to live in the non-usenet cyberworld like fb and twitter?
> > Some data will be welcome here.
> 
> All data would be, has been, FakeData! FakeBigData@# (TM, SM, and BMW).
> There are lurkers and sharks in every NG. Just mention Rambo and note
> how Usenet influences news media, for example. Sharks are here to steal...
> I'm living proof that many people steal ideas from us all writing here.

Yes, I would think that all the zero-creative media types and their hangers-on
look upon the ngs as vampires desiring fresh blood. They must have a secret or
underhand network operation going. Steal ideas without making any payment, pay
only to their own inner circle, and thus keep the show on. I bet, that the 
conferences are also part of that trick - getting new ideas for free and in fact
making the suckers pay to give them away... the hope for the sucker is that he
may perhaps enter the charmed closed circle of vampires and then participate in
their bloodsucking activities.
> 
> People do read here, they just never ever mention non-existent Usenet. Never. 
> Obviously, people do write here. Twitter, Facebook... get lots of mentions both!

Yes, usenet is a big no-no for the media, academia, etc. But it is the only
place to get fresh ideas for free. A problem for them is copyright. So far they
have not been able to steal brazenly.
> 
> > > Hey HVAC, did you go fishing when you went to college? Again, where?
> > > Illuminati then do the car driving dramatically dance... Angels & Demons... 
> 
> Angels & Demons, with Tom Hanks and Ambigrams, gets funnier with each rewatch.
> It's such a goofy movie, all said and done. It's got anti-matter, Italians, 
> Vatican, yoga, female physicist, books, ... I'm gonna start a thread about A&D.
> 
> <trim>
> 
> > > For like my 7+ years of study, I had a habit of writing ENME-###
> > > to identify which course the notes applied to. ENME is UMCP speak
> > > for ENgineeringMEchanical. For EE, it was/is ENEE, and so on...
> > > http://www.enme.umd.edu is UMCP's current/latest/greatest website.
> > > I know nobody on UMCP's current ENME staff listing. I wonder why?
> > 
> > I had to get a job after doing my BTech from IITKgP and then did MTEch in CS
> > part time from IITD. I did PhD studies for 3.5 years at RMIT, but could not
> > complete due to matters I'd better not discuss in public. Anyway, that 
> > study was not wasted, for it was useful to make some video films showing off
> > my ideas about energy and motion that I have been talking about for the last
> > 18 years. But I suppose you know this, for I have given out the links for the
> > videos on youtube on this and other ngs. I need to do a few more experiments
> > before I try to get support from the established institutions. There is a small
> > chance they the IFE may be practical at lower currents, not in the order of
> > millions of amps as is the present state.
> 
> Good luck! Btw, that's too many rare acronyms for me to be familiar with.

Thanks, and don't worry. CS is Computer Science, RMIT is Australia's largest 
university, IIT KgP and IIT D are Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur and 
Delhi respectively.

> I most always try to define/identify the acronyms I sometimes use.
> I've worked for USA corporate and governMental agencies, I despise acronyms!
> NSA, CIA, D-Day, Enola GAY, ... what else do I have to SAY?! FIRE Billy Joel!
> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=FIRE+Billy+Joel it's just so out there...
> 
> > > Time's greatest conspiracy against humanity: All==We Must Die (WMD)?!
> > > 
> > > ENME now sounds like ENME(y) to me. I recently rewatched an original
> > > William Shatner as Captain Kirk in Star Trek reruns titled “The Enemy
> > > Within.” Great episode.  Due to a transporter malfunction, Kirk gets
> > > split into two selves, one evil and one good. Still, this time I kept
> > > thinking, why not just land a shuttle on the frozen planet to go pick
> > > up the stranded crew?! So what if the transporter is busted?! Drama?
> > 
> > Laziness? I don't like the transporter stuff as that is really unscientific.
> > Star Trek would be much better without the e=mcc crap.
> 
> Remember that fictional Star Trek had the 3D printing of food contraptions.
> Which came first, the Science or the Science Fiction? I want my Orgasmatron! 
> Sleeper (1973). Woody Allen. Written by Allen and Marshall Brickman.
> 
> Well, e=mcc is not crap. 

It is. The correct formula linking mass and energy in the kinetic and non-
destructive manner is as I found out in 1999 is
e=0.5mVVN(N-k) 
a formula which can be derived in a few lines
and which explains all explosions from matches to nukes
and shows how to make ships to travel at speeds beyond light easily
with internal force if it can be done by technology
and that technology is possible and easily possible as shown by my video films
which the deluded or criminal world does not want to see
or try to ignore as your friend benj does with hand-waving
which is sad
but not unpredicted
so I have to do a lot better and maybe I will one day
but if I do not
someone someday will do so.

> It's fusion, photosynthesis. 

Fusion does not happen to create extra energy. If it did they would have made
fusion reactors by now. The H bomb is most probably a fission bomb amplified
by heavy water acting as a catalyst for making the blast much bigger.
Fusion cannot be the cause of the Sun's energy, for the Sun must have a very
strong and continuously circulating superconducting current for the existence
of its very strong magnetic field. And so, the Sun's core, like that of the 
Earth, must be very cold.

I don't know how e=mcc relates to biological effects. The concept of internal
force naturally applies to biological effects.

>OneStone plagiarized e=mcc.

He made a brilliant bungle and extended the consequences. His bungling was
in making the assumption that the speed of light does not vary with the speed
of the emitter. Actually the MMI experiment proves that the speed of light 
does vary with the speed of the emitter.

His main thrust was against Maxwellian electrodynamics. 
The problem is that the whole of electrical engineering is based upon 
electromagnetic field theory.
While the physicists hold following Einstein, Feynman, etc. that quantum 
mechanics or particle physics is correct.
My experiments prove that Maxwellian electrodynamics is correct, as the 
Lorenz force does not have an opposite reaction, as predicted by the Lorenz
relation.

> Italian physicists wrote/discovered e=mcc many years before OneStone claimed it.
> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=italian+physicists+e%3Dmc2 read away!

I will do that. 

> When I write 2 c me, it's a play on e=mcc. Play it backwards again, Sam. Cheers!
> Obvious Casablanca reference. For U slutty lurking sharks, this is (TM, SM, and BMW).
> 
> > It may be that I have to take to scifi writing to make my new ideas in 
> > physics popular.
> > Not a bad idea, that.
> 
> Most all science ideas seem to get out only through science fiction writings.
> But physics died with OneStone. Around 1913. Coincidence? Physics is now a 
> Liberal Arts course/degree at most colleges/universites. Physics For Poets...

Poetry has taken as big a hit as physics since Einstein et al. Inertia kept it
going for a while, but now both poetry and physics have come to a full stop.
On the other hand, we have CGI, video games, etc. Virtual reality. Seems to
work, and make money. Nobody seems to miss physics and poetry. Now maths is 
going to be crushed. There is a guy here doing his best to rubbish geometry.
They don't teach geometry as a subject in Australian schools these days.
> 
> > > You're correct about thereHere being Einsteinian vipers! I call EinStein OneStone.
> > > These days most people are tired of the myth of OneStone being the smartest ever!
> > 
> > Thank goodness. Here Tesla is making a huge comeback. There is one Elon Musk
> > who had made a Tesla car and my children's generation are very keen about that.
> 
> Tesla was/is a genius! When I worked in NYC, I ought have visited his hotel room.

No doubt. A great man, and a great inspiration. The last of the titans!

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
> 
> <trim>
> 
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> 
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-12 21:27 -0700
Message-ID<0eee954a-6316-4184-bdbb-1be8d4a28514@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640094
On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:23:24 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 4:38:20 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:31:38 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:35:26 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:47:31 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 11:34:09 PM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > 
> > <trim>
> > 
> > > > > > Look on The Dark Side, you end up saving bozos like HVAC! He he...
> > > > > 
> > > > > He too has his purpose in the world. The concept of Light cannot
> > > > > exist without the Dark.  For serenity and peace, the Dark should be
> > > > > a memory, and not a reality.
> > > > 
> > > > Ever hear the poem/song Ek Andhera Lakh Sitare (== One Darkness, Millions of Stars)?
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyfxAzIWxFo Ek==One Andhera==Darkness... so great!
> > > > I've posted this song/link before, but not too many learned Hindus here. O(y)e...
> > > 
> > > I will look into this. If one had an eye as big as the Sun one could see no 
> > > space at all but all the stars in the universe in one solid mass of brilliance.
> > > Heavenly! 
> > 
> > That reads like you're extrapolating/interpeting the song. Poem's just so deep/good.
> 
> Actually I had not heard that song when I wrote the above. It came more from
> the metaphysical experience narrated in my book "The Son of Hiranyaksh" in the
> chapter "The Birth of Ganesha". (Seems to have been a bit too much for the
> hvac entity, :-) )

Ok, that's even better Sir BanerjeeJi! Btw, I pretend not to be too religious.

> I heard the song just now, twice. This is new to me. Rajesh Khanna
> was the last person with a heart in Hindi movies. Smita Patil too
> had a heart and it shows.  The good die young. Real people - not
> mobile cardboard cutouts - do not exist these days in the film
> world.  This song is evidently about rejection, with an implied
> plea. It reminded me of Tagore's "gohdulilogonay meghay dhekechilo
> tara" which I translated a long time ago.

Rejection? Perhaps. I hear it as life is shitty/futile, let's compromise?!
Rajesh ended up marrying that actress Tina. Baby Baby let me sleep on it...

When I was a teenager 1970s in India, my MomJi and DadJi were in USA, I'd write 
letters to them. I'd often sign them as I'm Rajesh Khanna. Parents still laugh!
Last and first time I actually saw RajeshJi Khanna was at The Kennedy Center in DC.
No, I did not get close enough to get Rajesh's autograph or a Namaste. Life sucks!

I really need to invest more time reading Poet Rabindranath Tagore's works. 
Realistically, my life time is limited and poems are limitless. Life sucks!
Why so? Three minutes per song/poem. A hundred years life span. By the Math, EOS.

> Very fortunately I do not relate to these rejection songs, such is my fortune
> far beyond the worth of Mr Gates, that I relate to:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF1yskvcrDQ
> 
> ae husn pari chehra...
> 
> O lady of angelic countenance
> you are so full of kindness!
> Of all the things in the world
> you mean the absolute most to me.
> 
> > IndeevarJi is like one of my five top most favourite Poets/Lyricists. I adore Indeevar.
> 
> The good ones are all so good, difficult to choose. The wonder is how and why
> the modern crop is SO bad. A gentleman who knows said that it has to do with
> the way they do the music now - it is all created in different places and put
> together artificially. No creativity, just manipulation. We should be thankful
> for whatever has been done in the past. Enough to keep us going for keeps!

I hate the modern music industry! Good music never makes it to peoples' ears.
My friends and family complain I'm stuck in the 1960s. They yell/bitch at me! 
Then they start playing songs or doing their karaoke nonsense. Rich drunks.
Guess what songs/music they want hear themselves sing?! Hello?! WTFU!

WTFU == Wake The Fuck Up. Also please do pardon my profanity. It's funny!
My daughter used WTF at dinner with me once. I'm like, don't say that.
She's like, Dad you use words like FUCK all the time. Then... I had to laugh.

Occasionally there's good new music these days. It's too rare to be significant.
We're all drowning in feigned as great Abundance(y). Thank God I'll die someday!
The only measure of success seems to be how many likes/followers one has. O(y)e.

<trim>

> > It is a good question and everyone should be asking it daily. Why do
> > stupid people think we're all stupid? USA's TrumpET: I love Stupid People.
> 
> You had to be a Sikh! In this world of lies, run by liars, who can one depend
> upon except the good old Sardarji? I have had mixed luck with Sikhs, though.
> I still bear scar marks from my battles with Sikh twins, who were at the least
> trying to blind me with calendar-knives, way back in 1966. Then there was my
> dear, dear, dear Mr Singh the Khalistani terrorist with whom I had many an
> exchange in usenet. On the other hand, Sikhs have supported me wonderfully at
> my work, encouraged me to do MTech in CS, emgigrate to Australia... 

I'm not sure if I had to be a Sikh, it's just by birth that I am. Wahe GuruJi!
I love being Punjabi! I love Poet Sahir Ludhianvi. I grew up in Ludhiana. Coincidence?
Can a penguin change its colours? If so, then how? I just want to know what to wear.

Not all Indians are good people, just a vast majority are. Thank U India... Alanis.

> > > It does not work on everyone, but those few who do not buy their nonsenses are
> > > of course too few in number, disorganised, poor, etc. so they can be ignored
> > > and discreetly persecuted as necessary. Good ideas from them are not welcome 
> > > as they will show up the ruling ideologues as nincompoops if not criminals.
> > 
> > Do criminals know they're criminals? Of course they do.
> > Do insurance salesmen know they're politicians? Of course they do.  
> > Do politicians know they're hideous insurance salesmen? Of course they do.  
> > Do lawyers know they're lying within/above the laws' limits? Of course they do.
> > I could go on and On and ON! Moral? Jag Choro Ka Hai Dera (Bhagavad Gita==Song).
> > TAN MAN DHAN sab hai tera, BIN Tere... No no NO HVAC, those are not acronyms.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3as3GN_GJ2Q tan man dhan sab hai tera
> > 
> > > Such is the situation as I find it, and the way the world works, it should 
> > > last indefinitely. However the world does change fast - no one in 1913 thought
> > > there would be two world wars coming up. One great mishap could be all that 
> > > takes to upset the apple cart.
> > 
> > Hey, no one thought the Iran/Iraq/USA/... wars would last longer than
> > the duration of WW1+WWII combined! It's GMICK at work 24/7. We need WAR!

Ftr... GMICK == GovernMental Military Industrial Complex Kooks. 

> The last US President who said that war was needed but against poverty etc. 
> could not be tolerated, and so he was murdered. 

There's a deep dark moral in that lesson: What if we all humans were equally rich?
Men like TrumpET have small hands so their wallets feel bigger. Believe me! 2017.

> > > > > At present I am watching a TV show on the last 100 days of Diana. How badly
> > > > > the media hounded her, how her popularity in Australia led to her divorce with
> > > > > the envious Charles, etc. Sad. The last decent person in the West, she could
> > > > > not be allowed to exist, what.
> > > > 
> > > > I remember the day Diana died. In a billionaire's car crash, in a French tunnel.
> > > > I still find the accident story by a alleged drunk chauffeur very suspicious/fishy.
> > > 
> > > Yes. Dodi's father thinks so, too. 
> > 
> > Diana died in a car. JFK killed in a car. Venus Williams killed a man by a car...
> > I nearly got killed by a car. Man, I've got to learn to stay away from and out of cars!
> 
> In 1987 I was almost killed by a car as soon as I stepped on the road in USA,
> as I looked the wrong way while trying to cross the road. 

He he... If one can drive/handle cars in India, one can handle cars the world over!
What else better explains why taxi drivers the Earth over are Indians?! Duh!

> > <trim>
> > 
> > > I did think when I joined Usenet that there were millions of lurkers around who
> > > lapped up every written word by the few players. I got that impression when
> > > I read the terms and conditions that clearly stated that whatever we write can
> > > be read by millions for all time to come and we should remember this. So have
> > > the millions of possible lurkers never there to begin with, or have they 
> > > suddenly been born to live in the non-usenet cyberworld like fb and twitter?
> > > Some data will be welcome here.
> > 
> > All data would be, has been, FakeData! FakeBigData@# (TM, SM, and BMW).
> > There are lurkers and sharks in every NG. Just mention Rambo and note
> > how Usenet influences news media, for example. Sharks are here to steal...
> > I'm living proof that many people steal ideas from us all writing here.
> 
> Yes, I would think that all the zero-creative media types and their hangers-on
> look upon the ngs as vampires desiring fresh blood. They must have a secret or
> underhand network operation going. Steal ideas without making any payment, pay
> only to their own inner circle, and thus keep the show on. I bet, that the 
> conferences are also part of that trick - getting new ideas for free and in fact
> making the suckers pay to give them away... the hope for the sucker is that he
> may perhaps enter the charmed closed circle of vampires and then participate in
> their bloodsucking activities.

It is kind of nice when you/I write something here and a week later it turns 
into a HULU Superbowl 2009 commercial with Alec Baldwin. No money 4Me though.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=HULU+Superbowl+commercial+with+Alec+Baldwin
The useless lying Lawyer I hired for copyright infringement said I had no case.
In the Big Biggest Picture, I'm always going to write what and how I feel.

> > People do read here, they just never ever mention non-existent Usenet. Never. 
> > Obviously, people do write here. Twitter, Facebook... get lots of mentions both!
> 
> Yes, usenet is a big no-no for the media, academia, etc. But it is the only
> place to get fresh ideas for free. A problem for them is copyright. So far they
> have not been able to steal brazenly.

Usenet does not exist! Period. Crazy? Yes. But true? Yes. Yes yes YES!
Imagine Meg Ryan in Harry Did Sally her great faking orgasm scene. Too good!
Consequence? You want consequence?! Since then, most women prefer fake orgasms!

If you don't know me m(y) history, know this: I think I'm being funny!
No! Never! Never ever Ever EVER! Never will I resort to using Emoticons.

> > > > Hey HVAC, did you go fishing when you went to college? Again, where?
> > > > Illuminati then do the car driving dramatically dance... Angels & Demons... 
> > 
> > Angels & Demons, with Tom Hanks and Ambigrams, gets funnier with each rewatch.
> > It's such a goofy movie, all said and done. It's got anti-matter, Italians, 
> > Vatican, yoga, female physicist, books, ... I'm gonna start a thread about A&D.
> > 
> > <trim>
> > 
> > > > For like my 7+ years of study, I had a habit of writing ENME-###
> > > > to identify which course the notes applied to. ENME is UMCP speak
> > > > for ENgineeringMEchanical. For EE, it was/is ENEE, and so on...
> > > > http://www.enme.umd.edu is UMCP's current/latest/greatest website.
> > > > I know nobody on UMCP's current ENME staff listing. I wonder why?
> > > 
> > > I had to get a job after doing my BTech from IITKgP and then did MTEch in CS
> > > part time from IITD. I did PhD studies for 3.5 years at RMIT, but could not
> > > complete due to matters I'd better not discuss in public. Anyway, that 
> > > study was not wasted, for it was useful to make some video films showing off
> > > my ideas about energy and motion that I have been talking about for the last
> > > 18 years. But I suppose you know this, for I have given out the links for the
> > > videos on youtube on this and other ngs. I need to do a few more experiments
> > > before I try to get support from the established institutions. There is a small
> > > chance they the IFE may be practical at lower currents, not in the order of
> > > millions of amps as is the present state.
> > 
> > Good luck! Btw, that's too many rare acronyms for me to be familiar with.
> 
> Thanks, and don't worry. CS is Computer Science, RMIT is Australia's largest 
> university, IIT KgP and IIT D are Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur and 
> Delhi respectively.

I did know/recognize IIT. We're talking here, so too many acronyms is confusing.
Maybe it's a style thing, or just me. I mean no harm/disrespect, BanerjeeJi.

> > I most always try to define/identify the acronyms I sometimes use.
> > I've worked for USA corporate and governMental agencies, I despise acronyms!
> > NSA, CIA, D-Day, Enola GAY, ... what else do I have to SAY?! FIRE Billy Joel!
> > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=FIRE+Billy+Joel it's just so out there...
> > 
> > > > Time's greatest conspiracy against humanity: All==We Must Die (WMD)?!
> > > > 
> > > > ENME now sounds like ENME(y) to me. I recently rewatched an original
> > > > William Shatner as Captain Kirk in Star Trek reruns titled “The Enemy
> > > > Within.” Great episode.  Due to a transporter malfunction, Kirk gets
> > > > split into two selves, one evil and one good. Still, this time I kept
> > > > thinking, why not just land a shuttle on the frozen planet to go pick
> > > > up the stranded crew?! So what if the transporter is busted?! Drama?
> > > 
> > > Laziness? I don't like the transporter stuff as that is really unscientific.
> > > Star Trek would be much better without the e=mcc crap.
> > 
> > Remember that fictional Star Trek had the 3D printing of food contraptions.
> > Which came first, the Science or the Science Fiction? I want my Orgasmatron! 
> > Sleeper (1973). Woody Allen. Written by Allen and Marshall Brickman.
> > 
> > Well, e=mcc is not crap. 
> 
> It is. The correct formula linking mass and energy in the kinetic and non-
> destructive manner is as I found out in 1999 is
> e=0.5mVVN(N-k) 
> a formula which can be derived in a few lines
> and which explains all explosions from matches to nukes
> and shows how to make ships to travel at speeds beyond light easily
> with internal force if it can be done by technology
> and that technology is possible and easily possible as shown by my video films
> which the deluded or criminal world does not want to see
> or try to ignore as your friend benj does with hand-waving
> which is sad
> but not unpredicted
> so I have to do a lot better and maybe I will one day
> but if I do not
> someone someday will do so.

Well, I admit, most all mathematical formulas are crap. Axiomatically.
Some formulas are very Very VERY useful. TEA==Taylor's Expansion Approximation.
But that's a whole entirely endless discussion. I've got proofs and opinions!

> > It's fusion, photosynthesis. 
> 
> Fusion does not happen to create extra energy. If it did they would have made
> fusion reactors by now. The H bomb is most probably a fission bomb amplified
> by heavy water acting as a catalyst for making the blast much bigger.
> Fusion cannot be the cause of the Sun's energy, for the Sun must have a very
> strong and continuously circulating superconducting current for the existence
> of its very strong magnetic field. And so, the Sun's core, like that of the 
> Earth, must be very cold.

Extra energy? No such thing as extra energy. Just energy transformations. 
Me m(y) thermodynamics professor used to say over and over again, lecturing year
after year, since I was his teaching assistant, so I heard it a lot: You can
forget your name but never ever forget The First Law of Thermodynamics!

I miss him, Dr. M.E. Talaat. Such a great professor/teacher/advisor!

So lovable! When I'd go meet him at his office, walking with my girlfriend, like
to pick up graded homework or exams, he was more interested in my girlfriend!

> I don't know how e=mcc relates to biological effects. The concept of internal
> force naturally applies to biological effects.

I can't answer that with a one-liner, but I'll try. In a word: Leibniz.

German Gottfried Wilhelm LeibnizJi formulated Vis viva (from the Latin
for "living force") is a historical term used for the first (known)
description of what we now call kinetic energy in an early formulation
of the principle of conservation of energy.

Reference? Tough Crowd! Sure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vis_viva

> >OneStone plagiarized e=mcc.
> 
> He made a brilliant bungle and extended the consequences. His bungling was
> in making the assumption that the speed of light does not vary with the speed
> of the emitter. Actually the MMI experiment proves that the speed of light 
> does vary with the speed of the emitter.

Bungle? Sometimes I wonder: How did OneStone know what to actually plagiarize?!

I've heard the c-limit argument both ways. For we all know, there can only be
two sides. Especially to coins! Sadly, from where I sit, I can only
rely on what gets publically published. You know, the greatest/latest
best physics happen only behind closed topSpin classified doors. O(y)e...
Lesson? A Security Clearance is more valuable/important than any education.

> His main thrust was against Maxwellian electrodynamics. 
> The problem is that the whole of electrical engineering is based upon 
> electromagnetic field theory.
> While the physicists hold following Einstein, Feynman, etc. that quantum 
> mechanics or particle physics is correct.
> My experiments prove that Maxwellian electrodynamics is correct, as the 
> Lorenz force does not have an opposite reaction, as predicted by the Lorenz
> relation.

Lorenz==Lorentz force is F=q(E + v X B). Even being an ENME, I had
to work with it when writing my thesis on MPD (MagnetoPlasmaDynamics).

> > Italian physicists wrote/discovered e=mcc many years before OneStone claimed it.
> > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=italian+physicists+e%3Dmc2 read away!
> 
> I will do that. 

Enjoy it! Mass Media will emphasize/reinforce the meaning of it you already hold.
There's a silent refrain everywhere, only out loud, Jesus ChristNa was Jewish?! WTF?!

I stumbled on that Italian revelation only through Usenet, this NG. 
From good wise people like Sir hansonJi. Nobody in the Mass Media
Press, journals, colleges, ... are allowed to point to such facts. 
Ever watch your professors get monitored/gauged by the Rulers of The
Realm? I did. I didn't care for it. Lots of need to worry. Why worry?

Well, the last job I lost was because my Jewish boss hired his son. Nepotism.
Contract, it's fixed price. I got my son to hire, just fire Mahipal. Hey?!
Two weeks after his son showed up to work, I got an email stating my
corporate dropbox access had been canceled. The funny part, the
Nepotismistic Xboss, didn't know I already knew I was out, while he
was politely offering to buy me a Monday morning coffee. I refused the
coffee. Handed him the corporate laptop. Walked out. Never looked back, 
Never cried... In the year of '39 don't you hear me calling you? Queen.

Bye bye Miss American Pie... Don McLean. You can all kiss/kill me m(y) ass...
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Bye+bye+Miss+American+Pie...+Don+McLean

Mass Media in USA? All you get is that six million Jews were killed by one
Germanic Hitler. Nevermind the actual historical fact that more than 56 million
humans were killed in WWII alone! We==USA only care about them six?!

> > When I write 2 c me, it's a play on e=mcc. Play it backwards again, Sam. Cheers!
> > Obvious Casablanca reference. For U slutty lurking sharks, this is (TM, SM, and BMW).
> > 
> > > It may be that I have to take to scifi writing to make my new ideas in 
> > > physics popular.
> > > Not a bad idea, that.
> > 
> > Most all science ideas seem to get out only through science fiction writings.
> > But physics died with OneStone. Around 1913. Coincidence? Physics is now a 
> > Liberal Arts course/degree at most colleges/universites. Physics For Poets...
> 
> Poetry has taken as big a hit as physics since Einstein et al. Inertia kept it
> going for a while, but now both poetry and physics have come to a full stop.
> On the other hand, we have CGI, video games, etc. Virtual reality. Seems to
> work, and make money. Nobody seems to miss physics and poetry. Now maths is 
> going to be crushed. There is a guy here doing his best to rubbish geometry.
> They don't teach geometry as a subject in Australian schools these days.

Yes, same here in the USA. India/UK too. Even the new movies are plain dumb.
Here's how CS study works: Why study CS, you're just going to outsource it to India!

> > > > You're correct about thereHere being Einsteinian vipers! I call EinStein OneStone.
> > > > These days most people are tired of the myth of OneStone being the smartest ever!
> > > 
> > > Thank goodness. Here Tesla is making a huge comeback. There is one Elon Musk
> > > who had made a Tesla car and my children's generation are very keen about that.
> > 
> > Tesla was/is a genius! When I worked in NYC, I ought have visited his hotel room.
> 
> No doubt. A great man, and a great inspiration. The last of the titans!

Sadly, Sir Nikola TeslaJi got abused/screwed by the business bozos, Edison+Westinghouse.

> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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#640446

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-14 06:41 -0700
Message-ID<59c7c2b9-1915-4516-a740-9fe1a23f56c9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640267
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 2:27:54 PM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:23:24 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 4:38:20 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:31:38 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:35:26 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:47:31 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 11:34:09 PM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > 
> > > <trim>
> > > 
> > > > > > > Look on The Dark Side, you end up saving bozos like HVAC! He he...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > He too has his purpose in the world. The concept of Light cannot
> > > > > > exist without the Dark.  For serenity and peace, the Dark should be
> > > > > > a memory, and not a reality.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ever hear the poem/song Ek Andhera Lakh Sitare (== One Darkness, Millions of Stars)?
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyfxAzIWxFo Ek==One Andhera==Darkness... so great!
> > > > > I've posted this song/link before, but not too many learned Hindus here. O(y)e...
> > > > 
> > > > I will look into this. If one had an eye as big as the Sun one could see no 
> > > > space at all but all the stars in the universe in one solid mass of brilliance.
> > > > Heavenly! 
> > > 
> > > That reads like you're extrapolating/interpeting the song. Poem's just so deep/good.
> > 
> > Actually I had not heard that song when I wrote the above. It came more from
> > the metaphysical experience narrated in my book "The Son of Hiranyaksh" in the
> > chapter "The Birth of Ganesha". (Seems to have been a bit too much for the
> > hvac entity, :-) )
> 
> Ok, that's even better Sir BanerjeeJi! Btw, I pretend not to be too religious.
> 
> > I heard the song just now, twice. This is new to me. Rajesh Khanna
> > was the last person with a heart in Hindi movies. Smita Patil too
> > had a heart and it shows.  The good die young. Real people - not
> > mobile cardboard cutouts - do not exist these days in the film
> > world.  This song is evidently about rejection, with an implied
> > plea. It reminded me of Tagore's "gohdulilogonay meghay dhekechilo
> > tara" which I translated a long time ago.
> 
> Rejection? Perhaps. I hear it as life is shitty/futile, let's compromise?!
> Rajesh ended up marrying that actress Tina. Baby Baby let me sleep on it...
> 
> When I was a teenager 1970s in India, my MomJi and DadJi were in USA, I'd write 
> letters to them. I'd often sign them as I'm Rajesh Khanna. Parents still laugh!
> Last and first time I actually saw RajeshJi Khanna was at The Kennedy Center in DC.
> No, I did not get close enough to get Rajesh's autograph or a Namaste. Life sucks!
> 
> I really need to invest more time reading Poet Rabindranath Tagore's works. 
> Realistically, my life time is limited and poems are limitless. Life sucks!
> Why so? Three minutes per song/poem. A hundred years life span. By the Math, EOS.
> 
> > Very fortunately I do not relate to these rejection songs, such is my fortune
> > far beyond the worth of Mr Gates, that I relate to:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF1yskvcrDQ
> > 
> > ae husn pari chehra...
> > 
> > O lady of angelic countenance
> > you are so full of kindness!
> > Of all the things in the world
> > you mean the absolute most to me.
> > 
> > > IndeevarJi is like one of my five top most favourite Poets/Lyricists. I adore Indeevar.
> > 
> > The good ones are all so good, difficult to choose. The wonder is how and why
> > the modern crop is SO bad. A gentleman who knows said that it has to do with
> > the way they do the music now - it is all created in different places and put
> > together artificially. No creativity, just manipulation. We should be thankful
> > for whatever has been done in the past. Enough to keep us going for keeps!
> 
> I hate the modern music industry! Good music never makes it to peoples' ears.
> My friends and family complain I'm stuck in the 1960s. They yell/bitch at me! 
> Then they start playing songs or doing their karaoke nonsense. Rich drunks.
> Guess what songs/music they want hear themselves sing?! Hello?! WTFU!
> 
> WTFU == Wake The Fuck Up. Also please do pardon my profanity. It's funny!
> My daughter used WTF at dinner with me once. I'm like, don't say that.
> She's like, Dad you use words like FUCK all the time. Then... I had to laugh.
> 
> Occasionally there's good new music these days. It's too rare to be significant.
> We're all drowning in feigned as great Abundance(y). Thank God I'll die someday!
> The only measure of success seems to be how many likes/followers one has. O(y)e.
> 
> <trim>
> 
> > > It is a good question and everyone should be asking it daily. Why do
> > > stupid people think we're all stupid? USA's TrumpET: I love Stupid People.
> > 
> > You had to be a Sikh! In this world of lies, run by liars, who can one depend
> > upon except the good old Sardarji? I have had mixed luck with Sikhs, though.
> > I still bear scar marks from my battles with Sikh twins, who were at the least
> > trying to blind me with calendar-knives, way back in 1966. Then there was my
> > dear, dear, dear Mr Singh the Khalistani terrorist with whom I had many an
> > exchange in usenet. On the other hand, Sikhs have supported me wonderfully at
> > my work, encouraged me to do MTech in CS, emgigrate to Australia... 
> 
> I'm not sure if I had to be a Sikh, it's just by birth that I am. Wahe GuruJi!
> I love being Punjabi! I love Poet Sahir Ludhianvi. I grew up in Ludhiana. Coincidence?
> Can a penguin change its colours? If so, then how? I just want to know what to wear.
> 
> Not all Indians are good people, just a vast majority are. Thank U India... Alanis.
> 
> > > > It does not work on everyone, but those few who do not buy their nonsenses are
> > > > of course too few in number, disorganised, poor, etc. so they can be ignored
> > > > and discreetly persecuted as necessary. Good ideas from them are not welcome 
> > > > as they will show up the ruling ideologues as nincompoops if not criminals.
> > > 
> > > Do criminals know they're criminals? Of course they do.
> > > Do insurance salesmen know they're politicians? Of course they do.  
> > > Do politicians know they're hideous insurance salesmen? Of course they do.  
> > > Do lawyers know they're lying within/above the laws' limits? Of course they do.
> > > I could go on and On and ON! Moral? Jag Choro Ka Hai Dera (Bhagavad Gita==Song).
> > > TAN MAN DHAN sab hai tera, BIN Tere... No no NO HVAC, those are not acronyms.
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3as3GN_GJ2Q tan man dhan sab hai tera
> > > 
> > > > Such is the situation as I find it, and the way the world works, it should 
> > > > last indefinitely. However the world does change fast - no one in 1913 thought
> > > > there would be two world wars coming up. One great mishap could be all that 
> > > > takes to upset the apple cart.
> > > 
> > > Hey, no one thought the Iran/Iraq/USA/... wars would last longer than
> > > the duration of WW1+WWII combined! It's GMICK at work 24/7. We need WAR!
> 
> Ftr... GMICK == GovernMental Military Industrial Complex Kooks. 
> 
> > The last US President who said that war was needed but against poverty etc. 
> > could not be tolerated, and so he was murdered. 
> 
> There's a deep dark moral in that lesson: What if we all humans were equally rich?
> Men like TrumpET have small hands so their wallets feel bigger. Believe me! 2017.
> 
> > > > > > At present I am watching a TV show on the last 100 days of Diana. How badly
> > > > > > the media hounded her, how her popularity in Australia led to her divorce with
> > > > > > the envious Charles, etc. Sad. The last decent person in the West, she could
> > > > > > not be allowed to exist, what.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I remember the day Diana died. In a billionaire's car crash, in a French tunnel.
> > > > > I still find the accident story by a alleged drunk chauffeur very suspicious/fishy.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes. Dodi's father thinks so, too. 
> > > 
> > > Diana died in a car. JFK killed in a car. Venus Williams killed a man by a car...
> > > I nearly got killed by a car. Man, I've got to learn to stay away from and out of cars!
> > 
> > In 1987 I was almost killed by a car as soon as I stepped on the road in USA,
> > as I looked the wrong way while trying to cross the road. 
> 
> He he... If one can drive/handle cars in India, one can handle cars the world over!
> What else better explains why taxi drivers the Earth over are Indians?! Duh!
> 
> > > <trim>
> > > 
> > > > I did think when I joined Usenet that there were millions of lurkers around who
> > > > lapped up every written word by the few players. I got that impression when
> > > > I read the terms and conditions that clearly stated that whatever we write can
> > > > be read by millions for all time to come and we should remember this. So have
> > > > the millions of possible lurkers never there to begin with, or have they 
> > > > suddenly been born to live in the non-usenet cyberworld like fb and twitter?
> > > > Some data will be welcome here.
> > > 
> > > All data would be, has been, FakeData! FakeBigData@# (TM, SM, and BMW).
> > > There are lurkers and sharks in every NG. Just mention Rambo and note
> > > how Usenet influences news media, for example. Sharks are here to steal...
> > > I'm living proof that many people steal ideas from us all writing here.
> > 
> > Yes, I would think that all the zero-creative media types and their hangers-on
> > look upon the ngs as vampires desiring fresh blood. They must have a secret or
> > underhand network operation going. Steal ideas without making any payment, pay
> > only to their own inner circle, and thus keep the show on. I bet, that the 
> > conferences are also part of that trick - getting new ideas for free and in fact
> > making the suckers pay to give them away... the hope for the sucker is that he
> > may perhaps enter the charmed closed circle of vampires and then participate in
> > their bloodsucking activities.
> 
> It is kind of nice when you/I write something here and a week later it turns 
> into a HULU Superbowl 2009 commercial with Alec Baldwin. No money 4Me though.
> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=HULU+Superbowl+commercial+with+Alec+Baldwin
> The useless lying Lawyer I hired for copyright infringement said I had no case.
> In the Big Biggest Picture, I'm always going to write what and how I feel.
> 
> > > People do read here, they just never ever mention non-existent Usenet. Never. 
> > > Obviously, people do write here. Twitter, Facebook... get lots of mentions both!
> > 
> > Yes, usenet is a big no-no for the media, academia, etc. But it is the only
> > place to get fresh ideas for free. A problem for them is copyright. So far they
> > have not been able to steal brazenly.
> 
> Usenet does not exist! Period. Crazy? Yes. But true? Yes. Yes yes YES!
> Imagine Meg Ryan in Harry Did Sally her great faking orgasm scene. Too good!
> Consequence? You want consequence?! Since then, most women prefer fake orgasms!
> 
> If you don't know me m(y) history, know this: I think I'm being funny!
> No! Never! Never ever Ever EVER! Never will I resort to using Emoticons.
> 
> > > > > Hey HVAC, did you go fishing when you went to college? Again, where?
> > > > > Illuminati then do the car driving dramatically dance... Angels & Demons... 
> > > 
> > > Angels & Demons, with Tom Hanks and Ambigrams, gets funnier with each rewatch.
> > > It's such a goofy movie, all said and done. It's got anti-matter, Italians, 
> > > Vatican, yoga, female physicist, books, ... I'm gonna start a thread about A&D.
> > > 
> > > <trim>
> > > 
> > > > > For like my 7+ years of study, I had a habit of writing ENME-###
> > > > > to identify which course the notes applied to. ENME is UMCP speak
> > > > > for ENgineeringMEchanical. For EE, it was/is ENEE, and so on...
> > > > > http://www.enme.umd.edu is UMCP's current/latest/greatest website.
> > > > > I know nobody on UMCP's current ENME staff listing. I wonder why?
> > > > 
> > > > I had to get a job after doing my BTech from IITKgP and then did MTEch in CS
> > > > part time from IITD. I did PhD studies for 3.5 years at RMIT, but could not
> > > > complete due to matters I'd better not discuss in public. Anyway, that 
> > > > study was not wasted, for it was useful to make some video films showing off
> > > > my ideas about energy and motion that I have been talking about for the last
> > > > 18 years. But I suppose you know this, for I have given out the links for the
> > > > videos on youtube on this and other ngs. I need to do a few more experiments
> > > > before I try to get support from the established institutions. There is a small
> > > > chance they the IFE may be practical at lower currents, not in the order of
> > > > millions of amps as is the present state.
> > > 
> > > Good luck! Btw, that's too many rare acronyms for me to be familiar with.
> > 
> > Thanks, and don't worry. CS is Computer Science, RMIT is Australia's largest 
> > university, IIT KgP and IIT D are Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur and 
> > Delhi respectively.
> 
> I did know/recognize IIT. We're talking here, so too many acronyms is confusing.
> Maybe it's a style thing, or just me. I mean no harm/disrespect, BanerjeeJi.
> 
> > > I most always try to define/identify the acronyms I sometimes use.
> > > I've worked for USA corporate and governMental agencies, I despise acronyms!
> > > NSA, CIA, D-Day, Enola GAY, ... what else do I have to SAY?! FIRE Billy Joel!
> > > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=FIRE+Billy+Joel it's just so out there...
> > > 
> > > > > Time's greatest conspiracy against humanity: All==We Must Die (WMD)?!
> > > > > 
> > > > > ENME now sounds like ENME(y) to me. I recently rewatched an original
> > > > > William Shatner as Captain Kirk in Star Trek reruns titled “The Enemy
> > > > > Within.” Great episode.  Due to a transporter malfunction, Kirk gets
> > > > > split into two selves, one evil and one good. Still, this time I kept
> > > > > thinking, why not just land a shuttle on the frozen planet to go pick
> > > > > up the stranded crew?! So what if the transporter is busted?! Drama?
> > > > 
> > > > Laziness? I don't like the transporter stuff as that is really unscientific.
> > > > Star Trek would be much better without the e=mcc crap.
> > > 
> > > Remember that fictional Star Trek had the 3D printing of food contraptions.
> > > Which came first, the Science or the Science Fiction? I want my Orgasmatron! 
> > > Sleeper (1973). Woody Allen. Written by Allen and Marshall Brickman.
> > > 
> > > Well, e=mcc is not crap. 
> > 
> > It is. The correct formula linking mass and energy in the kinetic and non-
> > destructive manner is as I found out in 1999 is
> > e=0.5mVVN(N-k) 
> > a formula which can be derived in a few lines
> > and which explains all explosions from matches to nukes
> > and shows how to make ships to travel at speeds beyond light easily
> > with internal force if it can be done by technology
> > and that technology is possible and easily possible as shown by my video films
> > which the deluded or criminal world does not want to see
> > or try to ignore as your friend benj does with hand-waving
> > which is sad
> > but not unpredicted
> > so I have to do a lot better and maybe I will one day
> > but if I do not
> > someone someday will do so.
> 
> Well, I admit, most all mathematical formulas are crap. Axiomatically.
> Some formulas are very Very VERY useful. TEA==Taylor's Expansion Approximation.
> But that's a whole entirely endless discussion. I've got proofs and opinions!

I made my entire living and whatever fortune I have from mathematical modelling
of electronic systems.

It started with my being a new engineer for Bharat Electronics, Ghaziabad.

They had a project going to convert USSR IFF radar from their low frequency to
the standard IFF frequency. 

They grabbed me, brilliant student that I was fresh from IIT KgP to do the job
which they had failed for one year. It was a life or death situation for the
nation, they said. Pakistan had F16 and they would use it in the next war.
We needed to have a great air defence. Without IFF the radars would shoot down
our own aircraft. The Egyptians had done just that, in their war against 
Israel. 

So I gave up whatever fancy notions of doing whatever great and good for the
world, and gave all I had to making the IFF antenna work for the P15 radar. I 
soon found that no one knew anything about antennas, even though they had PhDs
 in the subject. Studying the subject deeply, I solved the problem and I 
understand that the radars I worked on in the period 1978-89 are still in
service today. Such is their success, that my boss and my colleague both 
became Chairman and Managing Directors of BEL! And the nation was safe from
Pakistani attack. 

How did I do all the work so well? Mathematical formualas. Going deep into the
basics of the design, making a very complex mathematical model, so much that
it was necessary to use computer programming to work out how it would work,
then having made the model, tweak it to get the optimum results. Then use these
results to make the prototype. And then as I found, the complex antenna
system would behave very well, meet all the specs, from the very beginning. I 
got it first time right, simply because I had been so thorough with the basics
of the electromagnetics involved.

Later on, in Australia, I would use the same strategy in other directions, in
Telstra Research Labs. But this is another long story.  It is also mixed with
software for research, with logic etc. as opposed to pure number crunching.

Well, this is just to say that when the math formula is NOT based upon silly
assumptions such as the invariance of light speed, but instead upon sound
experimental evidence (such as Biot Savart formula) then we can get from those
formulas remarkable insights into how the complex system will work - and we
can build our prototype with confidence.


> 
> > > It's fusion, photosynthesis. 
> > 
> > Fusion does not happen to create extra energy. If it did they would have made
> > fusion reactors by now. The H bomb is most probably a fission bomb amplified
> > by heavy water acting as a catalyst for making the blast much bigger.
> > Fusion cannot be the cause of the Sun's energy, for the Sun must have a very
> > strong and continuously circulating superconducting current for the existence
> > of its very strong magnetic field. And so, the Sun's core, like that of the 
> > Earth, must be very cold.
> 
> Extra energy? No such thing as extra energy. Just energy transformations. 
> Me m(y) thermodynamics professor used to say over and over again, lecturing year
> after year, since I was his teaching assistant, so I heard it a lot: You can
> forget your name but never ever forget The First Law of Thermodynamics!
> 
> I miss him, Dr. M.E. Talaat. Such a great professor/teacher/advisor!

Unfortunately this is just the idea we must get rid of. I understand you have
done your PhD in thermodynamics, so this is a cherished idea for you. But it
goes against practical evidence, as seen from Nature, like the continuous 
energy emitted from the Sun, Earth, and even the Moon. The larger the body,
the greater the energy created from it. And destroyed by radiation into space.
Energy is always getting created and destroyed. Entropy is a mathematical
concept to uphold the law of conservation of energy - what is lost as heat is
actually energy destroyed. 

Thus my experiments to violate the First and Third Laws of Motion, using the
rail gun.

When I trap the heavy armature accelerated by electricity I violate the 
First Law of Motion as the whole system moves forward with electricity and had
there been no friction would have kept on moving. I violate the third law
with the pendulum experiment - the armature while going out with a higher
velocity in the current case does not push back as it should.

Since internal force is there with electrical effects, it can create energy.
In the Sun, the magnetic field acts upon the charges to create force, which
create energy with mutual collisions. This creates the heat and light which is
given out as radiation all over the infinite universe. The Western mind is very
limited so it tries to limit, anyhow. The idea of an infinite universe is
very frightening, and their meanness is reflected in their understanding of 
physics. Nature is very bountiful, but the Western elites are extremely mean.
This is shown in their physics.

Check out the video films, in the links below:
Do see IFE-3 and IFE-4 where I do the experiments to prove the above points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBfwAClVlg
IFE - 1 Ground Experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9eGq4Oiv9s
IFE - 2 Experimental setups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hC48BMrno
IFE - 3 Pendulum experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws
IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU
IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc
IFE - 6 Spaceship Design

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA
IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9LUwqMhxY
IFE - 8 New Physics


> So lovable! When I'd go meet him at his office, walking with my girlfriend, like
> to pick up graded homework or exams, he was more interested in my girlfriend!

!

> > I don't know how e=mcc relates to biological effects. The concept of internal
> > force naturally applies to biological effects.
> 
> I can't answer that with a one-liner, but I'll try. In a word: Leibniz.
> 
> German Gottfried Wilhelm LeibnizJi formulated Vis viva (from the Latin
> for "living force") is a historical term used for the first (known)
> description of what we now call kinetic energy in an early formulation
> of the principle of conservation of energy.

What a disaster that was. Newton had no use for the conservation of energy. To
him the universe was a place of infinite mystery, and he was picking up shiny
pebbles by its ocean of the unknown. 
> 
> Reference? Tough Crowd! Sure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vis_viva
> 
> > >OneStone plagiarized e=mcc.
> > 
> > He made a brilliant bungle and extended the consequences. His bungling was
> > in making the assumption that the speed of light does not vary with the speed
> > of the emitter. Actually the MMI experiment proves that the speed of light 
> > does vary with the speed of the emitter.
> 
> Bungle? Sometimes I wonder: How did OneStone know what to actually plagiarize?!

You have to give him credit for his brilliant bungling. Your Italian reference
was one of conjecture pure and simple. But Einstein took up the bungled analysis
of the MMI experiment to create a veritable mountain range of scientific
falsehood which is hallowed to this day by the establishments.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
> 
> I've heard the c-limit argument both ways. For we all know, there can only be
> two sides. Especially to coins! Sadly, from where I sit, I can only
> rely on what gets publically published. You know, the greatest/latest
> best physics happen only behind closed topSpin classified doors. O(y)e...
> Lesson? A Security Clearance is more valuable/important than any education.
> 
> > His main thrust was against Maxwellian electrodynamics. 
> > The problem is that the whole of electrical engineering is based upon 
> > electromagnetic field theory.
> > While the physicists hold following Einstein, Feynman, etc. that quantum 
> > mechanics or particle physics is correct.
> > My experiments prove that Maxwellian electrodynamics is correct, as the 
> > Lorenz force does not have an opposite reaction, as predicted by the Lorenz
> > relation.
> 
> Lorenz==Lorentz force is F=q(E + v X B). Even being an ENME, I had
> to work with it when writing my thesis on MPD (MagnetoPlasmaDynamics).
> 
> > > Italian physicists wrote/discovered e=mcc many years before OneStone claimed it.
> > > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=italian+physicists+e%3Dmc2 read away!
> > 
> > I will do that. 
> 
> Enjoy it! Mass Media will emphasize/reinforce the meaning of it you already hold.
> There's a silent refrain everywhere, only out loud, Jesus ChristNa was Jewish?! WTF?!
> 
> I stumbled on that Italian revelation only through Usenet, this NG. 
> From good wise people like Sir hansonJi. Nobody in the Mass Media
> Press, journals, colleges, ... are allowed to point to such facts. 
> Ever watch your professors get monitored/gauged by the Rulers of The
> Realm? I did. I didn't care for it. Lots of need to worry. Why worry?
> 
> Well, the last job I lost was because my Jewish boss hired his son. Nepotism.
> Contract, it's fixed price. I got my son to hire, just fire Mahipal. Hey?!
> Two weeks after his son showed up to work, I got an email stating my
> corporate dropbox access had been canceled. The funny part, the
> Nepotismistic Xboss, didn't know I already knew I was out, while he
> was politely offering to buy me a Monday morning coffee. I refused the
> coffee. Handed him the corporate laptop. Walked out. Never looked back, 
> Never cried... In the year of '39 don't you hear me calling you? Queen.
> 
> Bye bye Miss American Pie... Don McLean. You can all kiss/kill me m(y) ass...
> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Bye+bye+Miss+American+Pie...+Don+McLean
> 
> Mass Media in USA? All you get is that six million Jews were killed by one
> Germanic Hitler. Nevermind the actual historical fact that more than 56 million
> humans were killed in WWII alone! We==USA only care about them six?!
> 
> > > When I write 2 c me, it's a play on e=mcc. Play it backwards again, Sam. Cheers!
> > > Obvious Casablanca reference. For U slutty lurking sharks, this is (TM, SM, and BMW).
> > > 
> > > > It may be that I have to take to scifi writing to make my new ideas in 
> > > > physics popular.
> > > > Not a bad idea, that.
> > > 
> > > Most all science ideas seem to get out only through science fiction writings.
> > > But physics died with OneStone. Around 1913. Coincidence? Physics is now a 
> > > Liberal Arts course/degree at most colleges/universites. Physics For Poets...
> > 
> > Poetry has taken as big a hit as physics since Einstein et al. Inertia kept it
> > going for a while, but now both poetry and physics have come to a full stop.
> > On the other hand, we have CGI, video games, etc. Virtual reality. Seems to
> > work, and make money. Nobody seems to miss physics and poetry. Now maths is 
> > going to be crushed. There is a guy here doing his best to rubbish geometry.
> > They don't teach geometry as a subject in Australian schools these days.
> 
> Yes, same here in the USA. India/UK too. Even the new movies are plain dumb.
> Here's how CS study works: Why study CS, you're just going to outsource it to India!
> 
> > > > > You're correct about thereHere being Einsteinian vipers! I call EinStein OneStone.
> > > > > These days most people are tired of the myth of OneStone being the smartest ever!
> > > > 
> > > > Thank goodness. Here Tesla is making a huge comeback. There is one Elon Musk
> > > > who had made a Tesla car and my children's generation are very keen about that.
> > > 
> > > Tesla was/is a genius! When I worked in NYC, I ought have visited his hotel room.
> > 
> > No doubt. A great man, and a great inspiration. The last of the titans!
> 
> Sadly, Sir Nikola TeslaJi got abused/screwed by the business bozos, Edison+Westinghouse.
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> 
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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#640449

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-14 07:25 -0700
Message-ID<fde02c2e-2525-4b83-8397-49be1f21a07b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640446
Adrian Banjo says
Thus my experiments to violate the First and Third Laws of Motion, using the 
rail gun. 

When I trap the heavy armature accelerated by electricity I violate the 
First Law of Motion as the whole system moves forward with electricity and had 
there been no friction would have kept on moving. I violate the third law 
with the pendulum experiment - the armature while going out with a higher 
velocity in the current case does not push back as it should. 
--------------

You obviously have an issue with drug abuse. Please down the pipe son

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#640545

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-14 19:15 -0400
Message-ID<59695092$0$60312$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#640449
On 7/14/2017 10:25 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Adrian Banjo says
> Thus my experiments to violate the First and Third Laws of Motion, using the
> rail gun.
> 
> When I trap the heavy armature accelerated by electricity I violate the
> First Law of Motion as the whole system moves forward with electricity and had
> there been no friction would have kept on moving. I violate the third law
> with the pendulum experiment - the armature while going out with a higher
> velocity in the current case does not push back as it should.
> --------------
> 
> You obviously have an issue with drug abuse. Please down the pipe son
> 
You are obviously a western devil who is simply trying to promote your 
failed ideas of relativity. Shame on you. The Gods and Goddesses spit on 
you.

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#640610

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-15 04:16 -0700
Message-ID<836bffa0-15d8-47c9-883f-e6498d6e31fc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640545
On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:35:26 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> On 7/14/2017 10:25 AM, HVAC wrote:
> > Adrian Banjo says
> > Thus my experiments to violate the First and Third Laws of Motion, using the
> > rail gun.
> > 
> > When I trap the heavy armature accelerated by electricity I violate the
> > First Law of Motion as the whole system moves forward with electricity and had
> > there been no friction would have kept on moving. I violate the third law
> > with the pendulum experiment - the armature while going out with a higher
> > velocity in the current case does not push back as it should.
> > --------------
> > 
> > You obviously have an issue with drug abuse. Please down the pipe son
> > 
> You are obviously a western devil who is simply trying to promote your 
> failed ideas of relativity. Shame on you. The Gods and Goddesses spit on 
> you.

They need not bother. The vicious devils, after a suitable painful interval in
Hell, will be reborn as worms, spiders, toads, etc. Karma works like that.

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#640609

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-15 04:14 -0700
Message-ID<3b7bc5c4-1d9d-4ca5-8a8a-6fba4e9ec53a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640446
On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 11:41:42 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 2:27:54 PM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:23:24 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 4:38:20 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:31:38 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:35:26 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:47:31 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 11:34:09 PM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > <trim>
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Look on The Dark Side, you end up saving bozos like HVAC! He he...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > He too has his purpose in the world. The concept of Light cannot
> > > > > > > exist without the Dark.  For serenity and peace, the Dark should be
> > > > > > > a memory, and not a reality.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ever hear the poem/song Ek Andhera Lakh Sitare (== One Darkness, Millions of Stars)?
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyfxAzIWxFo Ek==One Andhera==Darkness... so great!
> > > > > > I've posted this song/link before, but not too many learned Hindus here. O(y)e...
> > > > > 
> > > > > I will look into this. If one had an eye as big as the Sun one could see no 
> > > > > space at all but all the stars in the universe in one solid mass of brilliance.
> > > > > Heavenly! 
> > > > 
> > > > That reads like you're extrapolating/interpeting the song. Poem's just so deep/good.
> > > 
> > > Actually I had not heard that song when I wrote the above. It came more from
> > > the metaphysical experience narrated in my book "The Son of Hiranyaksh" in the
> > > chapter "The Birth of Ganesha". (Seems to have been a bit too much for the
> > > hvac entity, :-) )
> > 
> > Ok, that's even better Sir BanerjeeJi! Btw, I pretend not to be too religious.
> > 
> > > I heard the song just now, twice. This is new to me. Rajesh Khanna
> > > was the last person with a heart in Hindi movies. Smita Patil too
> > > had a heart and it shows.  The good die young. Real people - not
> > > mobile cardboard cutouts - do not exist these days in the film
> > > world.  This song is evidently about rejection, with an implied
> > > plea. It reminded me of Tagore's "gohdulilogonay meghay dhekechilo
> > > tara" which I translated a long time ago.
> > 
> > Rejection? Perhaps. I hear it as life is shitty/futile, let's compromise?!
> > Rajesh ended up marrying that actress Tina. Baby Baby let me sleep on it...
> > 
> > When I was a teenager 1970s in India, my MomJi and DadJi were in USA, I'd write 
> > letters to them. I'd often sign them as I'm Rajesh Khanna. Parents still laugh!
> > Last and first time I actually saw RajeshJi Khanna was at The Kennedy Center in DC.
> > No, I did not get close enough to get Rajesh's autograph or a Namaste. Life sucks!
> > 
> > I really need to invest more time reading Poet Rabindranath Tagore's works. 
> > Realistically, my life time is limited and poems are limitless. Life sucks!
> > Why so? Three minutes per song/poem. A hundred years life span. By the Math, EOS.
> > 
> > > Very fortunately I do not relate to these rejection songs, such is my fortune
> > > far beyond the worth of Mr Gates, that I relate to:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF1yskvcrDQ
> > > 
> > > ae husn pari chehra...
> > > 
> > > O lady of angelic countenance
> > > you are so full of kindness!
> > > Of all the things in the world
> > > you mean the absolute most to me.
> > > 
> > > > IndeevarJi is like one of my five top most favourite Poets/Lyricists. I adore Indeevar.
> > > 
> > > The good ones are all so good, difficult to choose. The wonder is how and why
> > > the modern crop is SO bad. A gentleman who knows said that it has to do with
> > > the way they do the music now - it is all created in different places and put
> > > together artificially. No creativity, just manipulation. We should be thankful
> > > for whatever has been done in the past. Enough to keep us going for keeps!
> > 
> > I hate the modern music industry! Good music never makes it to peoples' ears.
> > My friends and family complain I'm stuck in the 1960s. They yell/bitch at me! 
> > Then they start playing songs or doing their karaoke nonsense. Rich drunks.
> > Guess what songs/music they want hear themselves sing?! Hello?! WTFU!
> > 
> > WTFU == Wake The Fuck Up. Also please do pardon my profanity. It's funny!
> > My daughter used WTF at dinner with me once. I'm like, don't say that.
> > She's like, Dad you use words like FUCK all the time. Then... I had to laugh.
> > 
> > Occasionally there's good new music these days. It's too rare to be significant.
> > We're all drowning in feigned as great Abundance(y). Thank God I'll die someday!
> > The only measure of success seems to be how many likes/followers one has. O(y)e.

I suppose that US is like that, in terms of profanity. A popular book "Love
Story" was full of profanity. A way of life, rather like that of the sister-
referencing people of certain parts of North India. Gives relief.

> > <trim>
> > 
> > > > It is a good question and everyone should be asking it daily. Why do
> > > > stupid people think we're all stupid? USA's TrumpET: I love Stupid People.
> > > 
> > > You had to be a Sikh! In this world of lies, run by liars, who can one depend
> > > upon except the good old Sardarji? I have had mixed luck with Sikhs, though.
> > > I still bear scar marks from my battles with Sikh twins, who were at the least
> > > trying to blind me with calendar-knives, way back in 1966. Then there was my
> > > dear, dear, dear Mr Singh the Khalistani terrorist with whom I had many an
> > > exchange in usenet. On the other hand, Sikhs have supported me wonderfully at
> > > my work, encouraged me to do MTech in CS, emgigrate to Australia... 
> > 
> > I'm not sure if I had to be a Sikh, it's just by birth that I am. Wahe GuruJi!
> > I love being Punjabi! I love Poet Sahir Ludhianvi. I grew up in Ludhiana. Coincidence?
> > Can a penguin change its colours? If so, then how? I just want to know what to wear.
> > 
> > Not all Indians are good people, just a vast majority are. Thank U India... Alanis.

If by "good" you mean patient, long-suffering, gullible, tolerant then yes.

I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace
is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics
which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be 
cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new 
physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force
Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively. 

Also I like to think that I am correct in thinking the above. Let us see! Like
the rest of the world, the Modi govt. has no use for my ideas. Sad. But, the
good people in the world have no power. Only the bad people have power.

We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said,
"Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature. Thus
the path of the worthy householder is much more difficult than that of the 
sanyasi who chooses the equally valid path of renunciation."
> > 
> > > > > It does not work on everyone, but those few who do not buy their nonsenses are
> > > > > of course too few in number, disorganised, poor, etc. so they can be ignored
> > > > > and discreetly persecuted as necessary. Good ideas from them are not welcome 
> > > > > as they will show up the ruling ideologues as nincompoops if not criminals.
> > > > 
> > > > Do criminals know they're criminals? Of course they do.
> > > > Do insurance salesmen know they're politicians? Of course they do.  
> > > > Do politicians know they're hideous insurance salesmen? Of course they do.  
> > > > Do lawyers know they're lying within/above the laws' limits? Of course they do.
> > > > I could go on and On and ON! Moral? Jag Choro Ka Hai Dera (Bhagavad Gita==Song).
> > > > TAN MAN DHAN sab hai tera, BIN Tere... No no NO HVAC, those are not acronyms.
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3as3GN_GJ2Q tan man dhan sab hai tera
> > > > 
> > > > > Such is the situation as I find it, and the way the world works, it should 
> > > > > last indefinitely. However the world does change fast - no one in 1913 thought
> > > > > there would be two world wars coming up. One great mishap could be all that 
> > > > > takes to upset the apple cart.
> > > > 
> > > > Hey, no one thought the Iran/Iraq/USA/... wars would last longer than
> > > > the duration of WW1+WWII combined! It's GMICK at work 24/7. We need WAR!
> > 
> > Ftr... GMICK == GovernMental Military Industrial Complex Kooks. 
> > 
> > > The last US President who said that war was needed but against poverty etc. 
> > > could not be tolerated, and so he was murdered. 
> > 
> > There's a deep dark moral in that lesson: What if we all humans were equally rich?
> > Men like TrumpET have small hands so their wallets feel bigger. Believe me! 2017.
> > 
> > > > > > > At present I am watching a TV show on the last 100 days of Diana. How badly
> > > > > > > the media hounded her, how her popularity in Australia led to her divorce with
> > > > > > > the envious Charles, etc. Sad. The last decent person in the West, she could
> > > > > > > not be allowed to exist, what.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I remember the day Diana died. In a billionaire's car crash, in a French tunnel.
> > > > > > I still find the accident story by a alleged drunk chauffeur very suspicious/fishy.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes. Dodi's father thinks so, too. 
> > > > 
> > > > Diana died in a car. JFK killed in a car. Venus Williams killed a man by a car...
> > > > I nearly got killed by a car. Man, I've got to learn to stay away from and out of cars!
> > > 
> > > In 1987 I was almost killed by a car as soon as I stepped on the road in USA,
> > > as I looked the wrong way while trying to cross the road. 
> > 
> > He he... If one can drive/handle cars in India, one can handle cars the world over!
> > What else better explains why taxi drivers the Earth over are Indians?! Duh!
> > 
> > > > <trim>
> > > > 
> > > > > I did think when I joined Usenet that there were millions of lurkers around who
> > > > > lapped up every written word by the few players. I got that impression when
> > > > > I read the terms and conditions that clearly stated that whatever we write can
> > > > > be read by millions for all time to come and we should remember this. So have
> > > > > the millions of possible lurkers never there to begin with, or have they 
> > > > > suddenly been born to live in the non-usenet cyberworld like fb and twitter?
> > > > > Some data will be welcome here.
> > > > 
> > > > All data would be, has been, FakeData! FakeBigData@# (TM, SM, and BMW).
> > > > There are lurkers and sharks in every NG. Just mention Rambo and note
> > > > how Usenet influences news media, for example. Sharks are here to steal...
> > > > I'm living proof that many people steal ideas from us all writing here.
> > > 
> > > Yes, I would think that all the zero-creative media types and their hangers-on
> > > look upon the ngs as vampires desiring fresh blood. They must have a secret or
> > > underhand network operation going. Steal ideas without making any payment, pay
> > > only to their own inner circle, and thus keep the show on. I bet, that the 
> > > conferences are also part of that trick - getting new ideas for free and in fact
> > > making the suckers pay to give them away... the hope for the sucker is that he
> > > may perhaps enter the charmed closed circle of vampires and then participate in
> > > their bloodsucking activities.
> > 
> > It is kind of nice when you/I write something here and a week later it turns 
> > into a HULU Superbowl 2009 commercial with Alec Baldwin. No money 4Me though.
> > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=HULU+Superbowl+commercial+with+Alec+Baldwin
> > The useless lying Lawyer I hired for copyright infringement said I had no case.
> > In the Big Biggest Picture, I'm always going to write what and how I feel.
> > 
> > > > People do read here, they just never ever mention non-existent Usenet. Never. 
> > > > Obviously, people do write here. Twitter, Facebook... get lots of mentions both!
> > > 
> > > Yes, usenet is a big no-no for the media, academia, etc. But it is the only
> > > place to get fresh ideas for free. A problem for them is copyright. So far they
> > > have not been able to steal brazenly.
> > 
> > Usenet does not exist! Period. Crazy? Yes. But true? Yes. Yes yes YES!
> > Imagine Meg Ryan in Harry Did Sally her great faking orgasm scene. Too good!
> > Consequence? You want consequence?! Since then, most women prefer fake orgasms!

Indeed so far as the rest of the universe is concerned usenet does not exist
for they cannot control it absolutely like they control everything else.
With their stooges they have managed to scare off anyone with independent 
thought that really matters. I am the only exception to this rule and have
paid a heavy price for this. But, it is worth it. I like to believe in the 
goodness of people and that truth will triumph, sataymeva jayate. Today good
people are weak and cowardly mainly because they are poor and powerless. But
when they become a bit better off, unite, then they may reconsider their 
options, be less scared of the powers that be. 
> > 
> > If you don't know me m(y) history, know this: I think I'm being funny!
> > No! Never! Never ever Ever EVER! Never will I resort to using Emoticons.
> > 
> > > > > > Hey HVAC, did you go fishing when you went to college? Again, where?
> > > > > > Illuminati then do the car driving dramatically dance... Angels & Demons... 
> > > > 
> > > > Angels & Demons, with Tom Hanks and Ambigrams, gets funnier with each rewatch.
> > > > It's such a goofy movie, all said and done. It's got anti-matter, Italians, 
> > > > Vatican, yoga, female physicist, books, ... I'm gonna start a thread about A&D.

Do so.
> > > > 
> > > > <trim>
> > > > 
> > > > > > For like my 7+ years of study, I had a habit of writing ENME-###
> > > > > > to identify which course the notes applied to. ENME is UMCP speak
> > > > > > for ENgineeringMEchanical. For EE, it was/is ENEE, and so on...
> > > > > > http://www.enme.umd.edu is UMCP's current/latest/greatest website.
> > > > > > I know nobody on UMCP's current ENME staff listing. I wonder why?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I had to get a job after doing my BTech from IITKgP and then did MTEch in CS
> > > > > part time from IITD. I did PhD studies for 3.5 years at RMIT, but could not
> > > > > complete due to matters I'd better not discuss in public. Anyway, that 
> > > > > study was not wasted, for it was useful to make some video films showing off
> > > > > my ideas about energy and motion that I have been talking about for the last
> > > > > 18 years. But I suppose you know this, for I have given out the links for the
> > > > > videos on youtube on this and other ngs. I need to do a few more experiments
> > > > > before I try to get support from the established institutions. There is a small
> > > > > chance they the IFE may be practical at lower currents, not in the order of
> > > > > millions of amps as is the present state.
> > > > 
> > > > Good luck! Btw, that's too many rare acronyms for me to be familiar with.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, and don't worry. CS is Computer Science, RMIT is Australia's largest 
> > > university, IIT KgP and IIT D are Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur and 
> > > Delhi respectively.
> > 
> > I did know/recognize IIT. We're talking here, so too many acronyms is confusing.
> > Maybe it's a style thing, or just me. I mean no harm/disrespect, BanerjeeJi.
> > 
> > > > I most always try to define/identify the acronyms I sometimes use.
> > > > I've worked for USA corporate and governMental agencies, I despise acronyms!
> > > > NSA, CIA, D-Day, Enola GAY, ... what else do I have to SAY?! FIRE Billy Joel!
> > > > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=FIRE+Billy+Joel it's just so out there...
> > > > 
> > > > > > Time's greatest conspiracy against humanity: All==We Must Die (WMD)?!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ENME now sounds like ENME(y) to me. I recently rewatched an original
> > > > > > William Shatner as Captain Kirk in Star Trek reruns titled “The Enemy
> > > > > > Within.” Great episode.  Due to a transporter malfunction, Kirk gets
> > > > > > split into two selves, one evil and one good. Still, this time I kept
> > > > > > thinking, why not just land a shuttle on the frozen planet to go pick
> > > > > > up the stranded crew?! So what if the transporter is busted?! Drama?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Laziness? I don't like the transporter stuff as that is really unscientific.
> > > > > Star Trek would be much better without the e=mcc crap.
> > > > 
> > > > Remember that fictional Star Trek had the 3D printing of food contraptions.
> > > > Which came first, the Science or the Science Fiction? I want my Orgasmatron! 
> > > > Sleeper (1973). Woody Allen. Written by Allen and Marshall Brickman.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, e=mcc is not crap. 
> > > 
> > > It is. The correct formula linking mass and energy in the kinetic and non-
> > > destructive manner is as I found out in 1999 is
> > > e=0.5mVVN(N-k) 
> > > a formula which can be derived in a few lines
> > > and which explains all explosions from matches to nukes
> > > and shows how to make ships to travel at speeds beyond light easily
> > > with internal force if it can be done by technology
> > > and that technology is possible and easily possible as shown by my video films
> > > which the deluded or criminal world does not want to see
> > > or try to ignore as your friend benj does with hand-waving
> > > which is sad
> > > but not unpredicted
> > > so I have to do a lot better and maybe I will one day
> > > but if I do not
> > > someone someday will do so.
> > 
> > Well, I admit, most all mathematical formulas are crap. Axiomatically.
> > Some formulas are very Very VERY useful. TEA==Taylor's Expansion Approximation.
> > But that's a whole entirely endless discussion. I've got proofs and opinions!
> 
> I made my entire living and whatever fortune I have from mathematical modelling
> of electronic systems.
> 
> It started with my being a new engineer for Bharat Electronics, Ghaziabad.
> 
> They had a project going to convert USSR IFF radar from their low frequency to
> the standard IFF frequency. 
> 
> They grabbed me, brilliant student that I was fresh from IIT KgP to do the job
> which they had failed for one year. It was a life or death situation for the
> nation, they said. Pakistan had F16 and they would use it in the next war.
> We needed to have a great air defence. Without IFF the radars would shoot down
> our own aircraft. The Egyptians had done just that, in their war against 
> Israel. 
> 
> So I gave up whatever fancy notions of doing whatever great and good for the
> world, and gave all I had to making the IFF antenna work for the P15 radar. I 
> soon found that no one knew anything about antennas, even though they had PhDs
>  in the subject. Studying the subject deeply, I solved the problem and I 
> understand that the radars I worked on in the period 1978-89 are still in
> service today. Such is their success, that my boss and my colleague both 
> became Chairman and Managing Directors of BEL! And the nation was safe from
> Pakistani attack. 
> 
> How did I do all the work so well? Mathematical formualas. Going deep into the
> basics of the design, making a very complex mathematical model, so much that
> it was necessary to use computer programming to work out how it would work,
> then having made the model, tweak it to get the optimum results. Then use these
> results to make the prototype. And then as I found, the complex antenna
> system would behave very well, meet all the specs, from the very beginning. I 
> got it first time right, simply because I had been so thorough with the basics
> of the electromagnetics involved.
> 
> Later on, in Australia, I would use the same strategy in other directions, in
> Telstra Research Labs. But this is another long story.  It is also mixed with
> software for research, with logic etc. as opposed to pure number crunching.
> 
> Well, this is just to say that when the math formula is NOT based upon silly
> assumptions such as the invariance of light speed, but instead upon sound
> experimental evidence (such as Biot Savart formula) then we can get from those
> formulas remarkable insights into how the complex system will work - and we
> can build our prototype with confidence.
> 
> 
> > 
> > > > It's fusion, photosynthesis. 
> > > 
> > > Fusion does not happen to create extra energy. If it did they would have made
> > > fusion reactors by now. The H bomb is most probably a fission bomb amplified
> > > by heavy water acting as a catalyst for making the blast much bigger.
> > > Fusion cannot be the cause of the Sun's energy, for the Sun must have a very
> > > strong and continuously circulating superconducting current for the existence
> > > of its very strong magnetic field. And so, the Sun's core, like that of the 
> > > Earth, must be very cold.
> > 
> > Extra energy? No such thing as extra energy. Just energy transformations. 
> > Me m(y) thermodynamics professor used to say over and over again, lecturing year
> > after year, since I was his teaching assistant, so I heard it a lot: You can
> > forget your name but never ever forget The First Law of Thermodynamics!
> > 
> > I miss him, Dr. M.E. Talaat. Such a great professor/teacher/advisor!
> 
> Unfortunately this is just the idea we must get rid of. I understand you have
> done your PhD in thermodynamics, so this is a cherished idea for you. But it
> goes against practical evidence, as seen from Nature, like the continuous 
> energy emitted from the Sun, Earth, and even the Moon. The larger the body,
> the greater the energy created from it. And destroyed by radiation into space.
> Energy is always getting created and destroyed. Entropy is a mathematical
> concept to uphold the law of conservation of energy - what is lost as heat is
> actually energy destroyed. 
> 
> Thus my experiments to violate the First and Third Laws of Motion, using the
> rail gun.
> 
> When I trap the heavy armature accelerated by electricity I violate the 
> First Law of Motion as the whole system moves forward with electricity and had
> there been no friction would have kept on moving. I violate the third law
> with the pendulum experiment - the armature while going out with a higher
> velocity in the current case does not push back as it should.
> 
> Since internal force is there with electrical effects, it can create energy.
> In the Sun, the magnetic field acts upon the charges to create force, which
> create energy with mutual collisions. This creates the heat and light which is
> given out as radiation all over the infinite universe. The Western mind is very
> limited so it tries to limit, anyhow. The idea of an infinite universe is
> very frightening, and their meanness is reflected in their understanding of 
> physics. Nature is very bountiful, but the Western elites are extremely mean.
> This is shown in their physics.
> 
> Check out the video films, in the links below:
> Do see IFE-3 and IFE-4 where I do the experiments to prove the above points.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBfwAClVlg
> IFE - 1 Ground Experiments
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9eGq4Oiv9s
> IFE - 2 Experimental setups
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hC48BMrno
> IFE - 3 Pendulum experiments
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws
> IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU
> IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc
> IFE - 6 Spaceship Design
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA
> IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9LUwqMhxY
> IFE - 8 New Physics
> 
> 
> > So lovable! When I'd go meet him at his office, walking with my girlfriend, like
> > to pick up graded homework or exams, he was more interested in my girlfriend!
> 
> !
> 
> > > I don't know how e=mcc relates to biological effects. The concept of internal
> > > force naturally applies to biological effects.
> > 
> > I can't answer that with a one-liner, but I'll try. In a word: Leibniz.
> > 
> > German Gottfried Wilhelm LeibnizJi formulated Vis viva (from the Latin
> > for "living force") is a historical term used for the first (known)
> > description of what we now call kinetic energy in an early formulation
> > of the principle of conservation of energy.
> 
> What a disaster that was. Newton had no use for the conservation of energy. To
> him the universe was a place of infinite mystery, and he was picking up shiny
> pebbles by its ocean of the unknown. 
> > 
> > Reference? Tough Crowd! Sure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vis_viva
> > 
> > > >OneStone plagiarized e=mcc.
> > > 
> > > He made a brilliant bungle and extended the consequences. His bungling was
> > > in making the assumption that the speed of light does not vary with the speed
> > > of the emitter. Actually the MMI experiment proves that the speed of light 
> > > does vary with the speed of the emitter.
> > 
> > Bungle? Sometimes I wonder: How did OneStone know what to actually plagiarize?!
> 
> You have to give him credit for his brilliant bungling. Your Italian reference
> was one of conjecture pure and simple. But Einstein took up the bungled analysis
> of the MMI experiment to create a veritable mountain range of scientific
> falsehood which is hallowed to this day by the establishments.
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> > 
> > I've heard the c-limit argument both ways. For we all know, there can only be
> > two sides. Especially to coins! Sadly, from where I sit, I can only
> > rely on what gets publically published. You know, the greatest/latest
> > best physics happen only behind closed topSpin classified doors. O(y)e...
> > Lesson? A Security Clearance is more valuable/important than any education.
> > 
> > > His main thrust was against Maxwellian electrodynamics. 
> > > The problem is that the whole of electrical engineering is based upon 
> > > electromagnetic field theory.
> > > While the physicists hold following Einstein, Feynman, etc. that quantum 
> > > mechanics or particle physics is correct.
> > > My experiments prove that Maxwellian electrodynamics is correct, as the 
> > > Lorenz force does not have an opposite reaction, as predicted by the Lorenz
> > > relation.
> > 
> > Lorenz==Lorentz force is F=q(E + v X B). Even being an ENME, I had
> > to work with it when writing my thesis on MPD (MagnetoPlasmaDynamics).

Another expression of the Lorenz force is F=BiL, where B is the field strength
acting at right angles to current i flowing in length of conductor L.
Note that there is no reaction force implied with this equation.
And this is just what bothered Einstein.
In the earlier Ampereian equations, F was a function of i1 and i2. That is
current i1 in a conductor impacted upon the conductor carrying i2 and vice versa
and this satisfied the first law of motion. There were equal and opposite
force from the i1 and i2 being present in the force equation.
But, Lorenz relation discovered actually by Sir JJ Thomson and elaborated 
in vector form by Oliver Heaviside has only a single i term. Where is the 
reaction?
I researched this intensely full time for 4 years and am still continuing.
My conclusion is that the Lorenz force does not have an equal and opposite
reaction.
> > 
> > > > Italian physicists wrote/discovered e=mcc many years before OneStone claimed it.
> > > > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=italian+physicists+e%3Dmc2 read away!
> > > 
> > > I will do that. 
> > 
> > Enjoy it! Mass Media will emphasize/reinforce the meaning of it you already hold.
> > There's a silent refrain everywhere, only out loud, Jesus ChristNa was Jewish?! WTF?!

I did see the site you pointed out. Looks like the Italian guy was only
conjecturing that mass and energy were interchangeable. So e=mcc was not a 
new idea. Einstein made it into something respectable with a lot of mumbo-jumbo
based upon the results of the MMI experiment which led him (wrongly) to proclaim
that light speed was invariant with respect to the speed of the emitter.

We have to give Einstein credit for this abuse of maths and logic to come to
extraordinary conclusions that have literally distorted our perception of the
universe. Then he followed up with some palmjob. Using the natural optical
lensing effect to declare that the Sun was twisting light as per his huger
nonsense of general relativity.

As for the first law, there was consternation with the discovery of radio-
activity. Energy was getting generated out of nothing. Now, e=mcc was used to
explain that, as well as the energy from the Sun, with fusion, etc. Very 
shoddy science, this. But it lasts to this day.

Radio-activity of course happens with internal force, that no one denies. It 
is a natural phenomenon abused to make nukes, with the wrong e=mcc used to 
instil fear in the masses and thus get their money.
> > 
> > I stumbled on that Italian revelation only through Usenet, this NG. 
> > From good wise people like Sir hansonJi. Nobody in the Mass Media
> > Press, journals, colleges, ... are allowed to point to such facts. 
> > Ever watch your professors get monitored/gauged by the Rulers of The
> > Realm? I did. I didn't care for it. Lots of need to worry. Why worry?

Yes, they need their tenure and for that funds are required and funds are 
provided by those who appreciate the good done unto them.
> > 
> > Well, the last job I lost was because my Jewish boss hired his son. Nepotism.
> > Contract, it's fixed price. I got my son to hire, just fire Mahipal. Hey?!
> > Two weeks after his son showed up to work, I got an email stating my
> > corporate dropbox access had been canceled. The funny part, the
> > Nepotismistic Xboss, didn't know I already knew I was out, while he
> > was politely offering to buy me a Monday morning coffee. I refused the
> > coffee. Handed him the corporate laptop. Walked out. Never looked back, 
> > Never cried... In the year of '39 don't you hear me calling you? Queen.

I am sorry. I too have been persecuted openly by what I call the bigJew-gujJew
Einstein-Gandi two for the price of one, buy one get one free combo pack. They 
truly are 
ruling the world. Unless you bow down and grovel before them you have no chance
of success, just manage to survive somehow. And that only because I would not
give up on my new ideas in physics. I have nothing against Jews but they feel
that respect for their god Einstein will go down if I get any lift from anywhere
so their animosity. 

The real problem here is that in their great effort to retain absolute 
supremacy they are destroying new opportunities that will benefit everyone
including themselves. Probably they have worked out their chances, but as the
adage goes, the best laid plans of mice and men oft gang awry. 

So, there is always hope.
> > 
> > Bye bye Miss American Pie... Don McLean. You can all kiss/kill me m(y) ass...
> > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Bye+bye+Miss+American+Pie...+Don+McLean
> > 
> > Mass Media in USA? All you get is that six million Jews were killed by one
> > Germanic Hitler. Nevermind the actual historical fact that more than 56 million
> > humans were killed in WWII alone! We==USA only care about them six?!

Now that is the prerogative of the winning side. Who cares about 3-4 million
unfortunate Bengalis starved to death by Churchill! 

> > > > When I write 2 c me, it's a play on e=mcc. Play it backwards again, Sam. Cheers!
> > > > Obvious Casablanca reference. For U slutty lurking sharks, this is (TM, SM, and BMW).
> > > > 
> > > > > It may be that I have to take to scifi writing to make my new ideas in 
> > > > > physics popular.
> > > > > Not a bad idea, that.
> > > > 
> > > > Most all science ideas seem to get out only through science fiction writings.
> > > > But physics died with OneStone. Around 1913. Coincidence? Physics is now a 
> > > > Liberal Arts course/degree at most colleges/universites. Physics For Poets...
> > > 
> > > Poetry has taken as big a hit as physics since Einstein et al. Inertia kept it
> > > going for a while, but now both poetry and physics have come to a full stop.
> > > On the other hand, we have CGI, video games, etc. Virtual reality. Seems to
> > > work, and make money. Nobody seems to miss physics and poetry. Now maths is 
> > > going to be crushed. There is a guy here doing his best to rubbish geometry.
> > > They don't teach geometry as a subject in Australian schools these days.
> > 
> > Yes, same here in the USA. India/UK too. Even the new movies are plain dumb.
> > Here's how CS study works: Why study CS, you're just going to outsource it to India!

After I lost my research job with Telstra, I worked in IT till they found out
that they could get much cheaper hires from India. No more contracts, thus, and
well that was good in that I could work full time with my new inventions. Let
us see what happens, the future is full of mystery! 

> > > > > > You're correct about thereHere being Einsteinian vipers! I call EinStein OneStone.
> > > > > > These days most people are tired of the myth of OneStone being the smartest ever!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank goodness. Here Tesla is making a huge comeback. There is one Elon Musk
> > > > > who had made a Tesla car and my children's generation are very keen about that.
> > > > 
> > > > Tesla was/is a genius! When I worked in NYC, I ought have visited his hotel room.
> > > 
> > > No doubt. A great man, and a great inspiration. The last of the titans!
> > 
> > Sadly, Sir Nikola TeslaJi got abused/screwed by the business bozos, Edison+Westinghouse.
> > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> > 
> > -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
> > Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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#640622

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-15 07:28 -0700
Message-ID<1b8ec437-9206-4775-ba57-b1dab32806d9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640609
Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace 
is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics 
which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be 
cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new 
physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force 
Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively. 
------------

Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook. 



We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said, 
"Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
--------

This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.

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#640631

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-15 09:13 -0700
Message-ID<bd916481-5172-4924-9be3-6e7bb233f5d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640622
On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
>> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace 
>> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics 
>> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be 
>> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new 
>> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force 
>> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively. 
> ------------
> 
> Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook. 

HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.

Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...

>> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said, 
>> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
> --------
> 
> This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
> is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.

Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
"You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#640668

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-15 13:49 -0700
Message-ID<6f94b251-79d4-42de-82cd-fe2226d3cd5a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640631
On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:
> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> > Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
> >> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace 
> >> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics 
> >> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be 
> >> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new 
> >> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force 
> >> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively. 
> > ------------
> > 
> > Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook. 
> 
> HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
> Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.
> 
> Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...
> 
> >> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said, 
> >> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
> > --------
> > 
> > This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
> > is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.
> 
> Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
> Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
> "You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...
> 
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

Rome burned because of lead plates.Wars with H-Bombs will burn and melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats  TreBert

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#640698

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-07-15 17:13 -0700
Message-ID<okeass$8pj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#640668
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
<snipped Glazierola>
>
Glazier, you should have posted what you just said in 
your <http://tinyurl.com/Blog-of-2-fecal-kikes-Mar2017>
as what your wrote merely shows you to be a Face Shitter
& <http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal>.
and
Rocket Scientist Virdy "Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, you reber are an idiot. Glazier, you are babbling
desperately. Is it sympathy or pity you're grasping for?
Stop it, either way

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#640775

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-16 05:08 -0700
Message-ID<5473034c-3204-4981-a643-c146f6d54c51@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640668
On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 4:49:30 PM UTC-4, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:

<trim>

> Rome burned because of lead plates.Wars with H-Bombs will burn and
> melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats
> TreBert

Bullets are made of lead. DeadByLead! Coincidence? Silver bullets also kill ...youKnow.

History repeats? Prove History repeats. I'll wait right here to hear/read.  
Speaking of history, what more than your one-liner will anyone have to read?!
Believe me, I got all night to read any one-liner. Go ahead, impress me.

History repeats itself? It's just a tautology from the tautologists.
I taught/thought I saw a puss(y) cat and then I just grabbed it. Warm Kitt(y)...

History repeats? Prove History repeats. I'll wait right here to hear/read. 
History repeats? Prove History repeats. I'll wait right here to hear/read. 
History repeats? Prove History repeats. I'll wait right here to hear/read. 
...
History repeats? Prove History repeats. I'll wait right here to hear/read. 

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#640869

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2017-07-16 13:16 -0700
Message-ID<34eb0c85-7084-4d31-9877-ffd0c01992cd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640668
On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> > > Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
> > >> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace 
> > >> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics 
> > >> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be 
> > >> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new 
> > >> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force 
> > >> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively. 
> > > ------------
> > > 
> > > Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook. 
> > 
> > HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
> > Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.
> > 
> > Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...
> > 
> > >> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said, 
> > >> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
> > > --------
> > > 
> > > This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
> > > is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.
> > 
> > Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
> > Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
> > "You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...
> > 
> > -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
> > Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> 
> Rome burned because of lead plates.


Rome burned because Nero wanted some dramatic accompaniment to his music.  Lead cups, casks, and pipes had more to do with their short lives.


> Wars with H-Bombs will burn and melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats  TreBert


Lead lubricates the piston rings. 

Double-A

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#640879

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-16 20:36 +0000
Message-ID<lbvs3e-3g8.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#640869
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:
>> > On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
>> > > Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
>> > >> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace 
>> > >> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics 
>> > >> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be 
>> > >> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new 
>> > >> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force 
>> > >> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively. 
>> > > ------------
>> > > 
>> > > Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook. 
>> > 
>> > HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
>> > Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.
>> > 
>> > Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...
>> > 
>> > >> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said, 
>> > >> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
>> > > --------
>> > > 
>> > > This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
>> > > is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.
>> > 
>> > Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
>> > Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
>> > "You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...
>> > 
>> > -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
>> > Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
>> 
>> Rome burned because of lead plates.
> 
> 
> Rome burned because Nero wanted some dramatic accompaniment to his music.  Lead cups, casks, and pipes had more to do with their short lives.
> 
> 
>> Wars with H-Bombs will burn and melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats  TreBert
> 
> 
> Lead lubricates the piston rings. 
> 
> Double-A
> 

Lead raises the octane rating which allows compression to be raised which
results in increased performance and also prevents microwelding between
exhaust valves and seats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead#In_motor_fuel

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#640979

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-17 01:06 -0400
Message-ID<596c45dc$0$18977$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#640879
On 07/16/2017 04:36 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
>>>>> Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
>>>>>> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace
>>>>>> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics
>>>>>> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be
>>>>>> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new
>>>>>> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force
>>>>>> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively.
>>>>> ------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook.
>>>>
>>>> HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
>>>> Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.
>>>>
>>>> Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...
>>>>
>>>>>> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said,
>>>>>> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
>>>>> --------
>>>>>
>>>>> This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
>>>>> is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.
>>>>
>>>> Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
>>>> Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
>>>> "You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...
>>>>
>>>> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”
>>>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
>>>
>>> Rome burned because of lead plates.
>>
>>
>> Rome burned because Nero wanted some dramatic accompaniment to his music.  Lead cups, casks, and pipes had more to do with their short lives.
>>
>>
>>> Wars with H-Bombs will burn and melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats  TreBert
>>
>>
>> Lead lubricates the piston rings.
>>
>> Double-A
>>
>
> Lead raises the octane rating which allows compression to be raised which
> results in increased performance and also prevents microwelding between
> exhaust valves and seats.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead#In_motor_fuel
>
And also lead in gasoline poisons everyone in the country which explains 
Bert and his "theories". And also explains why it's illegal to put it in 
gasoline (Bert thinks Henry Ford is still putting it in)

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#640989

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-16 22:50 -0700
Message-ID<a418aafa-505d-40be-86b3-dae083405f84@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640979
On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 3:10:09 PM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> On 07/16/2017 04:36 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> >> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> >>>>> Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
> >>>>>> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace
> >>>>>> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics
> >>>>>> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be
> >>>>>> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new
> >>>>>> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force
> >>>>>> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively.
> >>>>> ------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook.
> >>>>
> >>>> HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
> >>>> Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...
> >>>>
> >>>>>> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said,
> >>>>>> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
> >>>>> --------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
> >>>>> is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.
> >>>>
> >>>> Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
> >>>> Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
> >>>> "You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”
> >>>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> >>>
> >>> Rome burned because of lead plates.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rome burned because Nero wanted some dramatic accompaniment to his music.  Lead cups, casks, and pipes had more to do with their short lives.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Wars with H-Bombs will burn and melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats  TreBert
> >>
> >>
> >> Lead lubricates the piston rings.
> >>
> >> Double-A
> >>
> >
> > Lead raises the octane rating which allows compression to be raised which
> > results in increased performance and also prevents microwelding between
> > exhaust valves and seats.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead#In_motor_fuel
> >
> And also lead in gasoline poisons everyone in the country which explains 
> Bert and his "theories". And also explains why it's illegal to put it in 
> gasoline (Bert thinks Henry Ford is still putting it in)

Lead in bullets destroyed the US confederacy, Nazi regime, stone age peoples,
etc. Dangerous element, Lead. Rail gun bullets won't use it.

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#640991

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-17 01:58 -0400
Message-ID<596c5217$0$60308$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#640989
On 07/17/2017 01:50 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 3:10:09 PM UTC+10, benj wrote:
>> On 07/16/2017 04:36 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
>>>>>>> Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
>>>>>>>> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace
>>>>>>>> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics
>>>>>>>> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be
>>>>>>>> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new
>>>>>>>> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force
>>>>>>>> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively.
>>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
>>>>>> Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said,
>>>>>>>> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
>>>>>>> is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
>>>>>> Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
>>>>>> "You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”
>>>>>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rome burned because of lead plates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rome burned because Nero wanted some dramatic accompaniment to his music.  Lead cups, casks, and pipes had more to do with their short lives.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Wars with H-Bombs will burn and melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats  TreBert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lead lubricates the piston rings.
>>>>
>>>> Double-A
>>>>
>>>
>>> Lead raises the octane rating which allows compression to be raised which
>>> results in increased performance and also prevents microwelding between
>>> exhaust valves and seats.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead#In_motor_fuel
>>>
>> And also lead in gasoline poisons everyone in the country which explains
>> Bert and his "theories". And also explains why it's illegal to put it in
>> gasoline (Bert thinks Henry Ford is still putting it in)
>
> Lead in bullets destroyed the US confederacy, Nazi regime, stone age peoples,
> etc. Dangerous element, Lead. Rail gun bullets won't use it.
>
Lead is heavy, so a lead roller will fly right down your pendulum 
without even any electricity. Not THAT is a genius space drive.

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#640993

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-16 23:30 -0700
Message-ID<f8f22452-5a52-4904-9fdb-a34dd714a815@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640991
On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 4:06:31 PM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> On 07/17/2017 01:50 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 3:10:09 PM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> >> On 07/16/2017 04:36 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >>> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:
> >>>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> >>>>>>> Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
> >>>>>>>> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace
> >>>>>>>> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics
> >>>>>>>> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be
> >>>>>>>> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new
> >>>>>>>> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force
> >>>>>>>> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively.
> >>>>>>> ------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
> >>>>>> Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said,
> >>>>>>>> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
> >>>>>>> --------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
> >>>>>>> is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
> >>>>>> Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
> >>>>>> "You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”
> >>>>>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rome burned because of lead plates.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Rome burned because Nero wanted some dramatic accompaniment to his music.  Lead cups, casks, and pipes had more to do with their short lives.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Wars with H-Bombs will burn and melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats  TreBert
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Lead lubricates the piston rings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Double-A
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Lead raises the octane rating which allows compression to be raised which
> >>> results in increased performance and also prevents microwelding between
> >>> exhaust valves and seats.
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead#In_motor_fuel
> >>>
> >> And also lead in gasoline poisons everyone in the country which explains
> >> Bert and his "theories". And also explains why it's illegal to put it in
> >> gasoline (Bert thinks Henry Ford is still putting it in)
> >
> > Lead in bullets destroyed the US confederacy, Nazi regime, stone age peoples,
> > etc. Dangerous element, Lead. Rail gun bullets won't use it.
> >
> Lead is heavy, so a lead roller will fly right down your pendulum 
> without even any electricity. Not THAT is a genius space drive.

My roller is not lead it is brass. It goes faster with 
electricity and that is the first point. Which is, I have made a working model
of a rail gun which fires heavy bullets at low speed. From the difference in
the speed in the two cases - first the non-current case where only gravity is
causing the acceleration, and second the current case where both gravity and
electricity are causing the increased acceleration, we can find the extra
acceleration caused by electricity alone. 

The second point is that by knowing this acceleration of the bullet by
electricity alone, and multiplying that with the mass of the bullet, we can
know the electric force upon the bullet.

By Newton's third law, there has to be an equal and opposite force to this
electrical force.

So the third and crucial point is, the whole model rail gun is mounted as a 
bob on the pendulum. It is fired in two cases, one after the other. The first is
for the noncurrent case and the swingback is noted. Then just after that the
current is put on and the rail gun is fired with increased velocity as a result
and the swingback is noted. And the crucial point is, that the swingback 
between the two cases is nearly 0% whereas as per the mathematical calculations
it should be 28& had there been an opposite force.

Thus the law of conservation of momentum is definitely violated, this is a
definite conclusion that anyone can reach after repeating my experiments. With
better equipment, the discrepancy could easily be shown to be 50%. However the
28% value of discrepancy that I got is certainly scientific and proved by
experiment.

The obvious reason for the above is that the Lorenz force does not have an
opposite reaction as indeed predicted by the Lorenz relation F=BiL which 
shows simply that a magnetic field will exert a force upon a current carrying
conductor. It does NOT indicate where the reaction force to that will be.

My experiment proves what was theoretically evident. This is a truly stunning
discovery, the greatest breakthrough since the discovery of fire and the wheel.

To further consolidate the above, the armature was trapped for both the 
non-current and the current cases. It was found that the system went further
with the current case than for the non-current case, and the distance difference
increased with the magnitude of the current. This is a violation of the First
Law, and happens as there is no reaction to the Lorenz force. 

So, using this new effect, in a cyclic manner, a two stroke engine can be
made which will be a reactionless electric motor that will make jet engines
and rockets obsolete.

Video is a very powerful medium of expression, especially in a hostile
pseudo-scientific world run by unscrupulous people who survive by fooling the 
masses with fear of nukes and mathematical mumbo jumbo. Knowing this, I have
made the following eight video films that substantiate my above claims:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBfwAClVlg 
IFE - 1 Ground Experiments 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9eGq4Oiv9s 
IFE - 2 Experimental setups 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hC48BMrno 
IFE - 3 Pendulum experiments 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws 
IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU 
IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc 
IFE - 6 Spaceship Design 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA 
IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9LUwqMhxY 
IFE - 8 New Physics

It will be a exercise to make text versions of the videos. I will do it in due
course.  Let us hope that the thrust of my new ideas penetrate the heads of 
honest and intelligent people with the videos which they should see as
lecture-demonstrations, of the type popular in the 19th century.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#641061

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-17 16:48 +0000
Message-ID<1c6v3e-s4g.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#640979
benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/16/2017 04:36 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
>>>>>> Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
>>>>>>> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace
>>>>>>> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics
>>>>>>> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be
>>>>>>> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new
>>>>>>> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force
>>>>>>> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively.
>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook.
>>>>>
>>>>> HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
>>>>> Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said,
>>>>>>> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
>>>>>> is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
>>>>> Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
>>>>> "You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”
>>>>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
>>>>
>>>> Rome burned because of lead plates.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rome burned because Nero wanted some dramatic accompaniment to his music.  Lead cups, casks, and pipes had more to do with their short lives.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wars with H-Bombs will burn and melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats  TreBert
>>>
>>>
>>> Lead lubricates the piston rings.
>>>
>>> Double-A
>>>
>>
>> Lead raises the octane rating which allows compression to be raised which
>> results in increased performance and also prevents microwelding between
>> exhaust valves and seats.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead#In_motor_fuel
>>
> And also lead <snip>

The troll continues to seek attention.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#641122

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-17 18:24 -0400
Message-ID<596d393c$0$53051$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#641061
On 7/17/2017 12:48 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 07/16/2017 04:36 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7, Mahipal wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
>>>>>>> Adrian 'Deliverance' Banjo says
>>>>>>>> I like to think that their resistance to getting modernity at a galloping pace
>>>>>>>> is due to their deep-down realisation, that modernity, based upon wrong physics
>>>>>>>> which is destructive and soul-killing as a result, is not something to be
>>>>>>>> cherished. Progress must be based upon correct physics, that is, my new
>>>>>>>> physics that will provide unlimited speed and energy, with the Internal Force
>>>>>>>> Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network, respectively.
>>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did I call it or what? This Banjo dude is a fucking freakshow level kook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HVAC, you always call it. It's always the same tune. 'Deliverance'?! Seriously?
>>>>>> Torture! Just another sick/degenerate movie no one should waste time watching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey HVAC, ever travel through West Virginia? Rocky mountain high... John Denver...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We cannot lose our trust in the goodness of people. As Swami Vivekananda said,
>>>>>>>> "Be cheated a thousand times but never lose your faith in human nature".
>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This Salami Vendetta, or whatever the fuck his unpronounceable name
>>>>>>> is, is a retarded moron. "You live, you learn" is far better advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vivekananda unpronounceable? Wrong again, assWipeHVAC. Got college?
>>>>>> Swami Vivekananda is on the easier scale of pronunciation, actually.
>>>>>> "You live, you die" is the far better truth... let us pray...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”
>>>>>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rome burned because of lead plates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rome burned because Nero wanted some dramatic accompaniment to his music.  Lead cups, casks, and pipes had more to do with their short lives.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Wars with H-Bombs will burn and melt the soil.  Lead in gas makes it burn hotter.History repeats  TreBert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lead lubricates the piston rings.
>>>>
>>>> Double-A
>>>>
>>>
>>> Lead raises the octane rating which allows compression to be raised which
>>> results in increased performance and also prevents microwelding between
>>> exhaust valves and seats.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead#In_motor_fuel
>>>
>> And also lead <snip>
> 
> The troll continues to seek attention.
> 
Not talking to you. Quit using my fame to try to seek attention for 
yourself.

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