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Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions

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First post2016-01-27 12:22 -0600
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  Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 12:22 -0600
    Re: Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-27 18:54 +0000
      Re: Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions boB <boB@theresnoplacelikehome.com> - 2016-01-28 17:55 -0800
        Re: Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-29 02:17 +0000
    Re: Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-28 22:37 -0600

#548584 — Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-27 12:22 -0600
SubjectStudy: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions
Message-ID<g6GdnSAq0LZElzTLnZ2dnUU7-RsAAAAA@giganews.com>
Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions
> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/new-gird-renewables-key-cutting-emissions-19953


> Carbon dioxide emissions from generating electricity could be cut by
> 78 percent within the next 15 years if the country makes the same
> Herculean effort to expand solar and wind technology that it did to
> build the Interstate Highway System.
>
> That’s the conclusion of a National Oceanic and Atmospheric
> Administration (NOAA) study published Monday in Nature Climate
> Change, which shows that a new system of transcontinental
> transmission lines connected to wind and solar farms nationwide is
> the key to dramatically reducing emissions from the nation’s power
> plants.


   We would all breath easier.


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#548608

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-01-27 18:54 +0000
Message-ID<scgnnc-mmd.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#548584
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions
>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/new-gird-renewables-key-cutting-emissions-19953
> 
> 
>> Carbon dioxide emissions from generating electricity could be cut by
>> 78 percent within the next 15 years if the country makes the same
>> Herculean effort to expand solar and wind technology that it did to
>> build the Interstate Highway System.
>>
>> That?s the conclusion of a National Oceanic and Atmospheric
>> Administration (NOAA) study published Monday in Nature Climate
>> Change, which shows that a new system of transcontinental
>> transmission lines connected to wind and solar farms nationwide is
>> the key to dramatically reducing emissions from the nation?s power
>> plants.
> 
> 
>   We would all breath easier.
 
Obvious nonsense.

The areas where the grids are interconnected are already huge and further
interconnections will not generate any more energy.

The Interstate Highway System had an immediate and real payback to the
national GDP as well as to the general standard of living.

Wind and solar farms are money pits with no real payback to placate
hysterical Chicken Littles.

If wind and solar farms were not subsidized, there wouldn't be any.

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#548955

FromboB <boB@theresnoplacelikehome.com>
Date2016-01-28 17:55 -0800
Message-ID<khhlab5mkl964rnfa0s3dhpm5e323vq453@4ax.com>
In reply to#548608
On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 18:54:52 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions
>>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/new-gird-renewables-key-cutting-emissions-19953
>> 
>> 
>>> Carbon dioxide emissions from generating electricity could be cut by
>>> 78 percent within the next 15 years if the country makes the same
>>> Herculean effort to expand solar and wind technology that it did to
>>> build the Interstate Highway System.
>>>
>>> That?s the conclusion of a National Oceanic and Atmospheric
>>> Administration (NOAA) study published Monday in Nature Climate
>>> Change, which shows that a new system of transcontinental
>>> transmission lines connected to wind and solar farms nationwide is
>>> the key to dramatically reducing emissions from the nation?s power
>>> plants.
>> 
>> 
>>   We would all breath easier.
> 
>Obvious nonsense.
>
>The areas where the grids are interconnected are already huge and further
>interconnections will not generate any more energy.
>
>The Interstate Highway System had an immediate and real payback to the
>national GDP as well as to the general standard of living.
>
>Wind and solar farms are money pits with no real payback to placate
>hysterical Chicken Littles.
>
>If wind and solar farms were not subsidized, there wouldn't be any.
>
> 


Does that also mean that if oil companies weren't' subsidised that
there wouldn't be any gasoline ?  Or less of it ?

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#548965

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-01-29 02:17 +0000
Message-ID<knuqnc-voo.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#548955
boB <boB@theresnoplacelikehome.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 18:54:52 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions
>>>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/new-gird-renewables-key-cutting-emissions-19953
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Carbon dioxide emissions from generating electricity could be cut by
>>>> 78 percent within the next 15 years if the country makes the same
>>>> Herculean effort to expand solar and wind technology that it did to
>>>> build the Interstate Highway System.
>>>>
>>>> That?s the conclusion of a National Oceanic and Atmospheric
>>>> Administration (NOAA) study published Monday in Nature Climate
>>>> Change, which shows that a new system of transcontinental
>>>> transmission lines connected to wind and solar farms nationwide is
>>>> the key to dramatically reducing emissions from the nation?s power
>>>> plants.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   We would all breath easier.
>> 
>>Obvious nonsense.
>>
>>The areas where the grids are interconnected are already huge and further
>>interconnections will not generate any more energy.
>>
>>The Interstate Highway System had an immediate and real payback to the
>>national GDP as well as to the general standard of living.
>>
>>Wind and solar farms are money pits with no real payback to placate
>>hysterical Chicken Littles.
>>
>>If wind and solar farms were not subsidized, there wouldn't be any.
> 
> 
> Does that also mean that if oil companies weren't' subsidised that
> there wouldn't be any gasoline ?  Or less of it ?

No.

Ever heard of "windfall profits tax"?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#548988

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-01-28 22:37 -0600
Message-ID<n8eq9r$170c$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#548584
On 1/27/2016 12:22 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Study: Grid For Renewables Key to Cutting Emissions
>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/new-gird-renewables-key-cutting-emissions-19953
>>
>
>
>> Carbon dioxide emissions from generating electricity could be cut by
>> 78 percent within the next 15 years if the country makes the same
>> Herculean effort to expand solar and wind technology that it did to
>> build the Interstate Highway System.
>>
>> That’s the conclusion of a National Oceanic and Atmospheric
>> Administration (NOAA) study published Monday in Nature Climate
>> Change, which shows that a new system of transcontinental
>> transmission lines connected to wind and solar farms nationwide is
>> the key to dramatically reducing emissions from the nation’s power
>> plants.
>
>
>    We would all breath easier.
>
>

one has to replace all the  solar and wind facilities every 30 years as 
they corrode, decay, loose effeciency, and dammage

what is the total cost of such ?  100 trillion dollors

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