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Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds

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  Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-05 09:10 -0500
    Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-05-06 17:32 -0700
      Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 22:23 -0500
        Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-07 03:56 +0000
          Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-05-07 16:52 -0700
            Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-08 01:51 +0000
            Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 16:19 -0700
              Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 16:24 -0700
              Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 19:34 -0500
                Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-05-09 17:40 -0700
                  Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 19:45 -0500
                    Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-09 21:12 -0500
        Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-05-07 12:45 -0400
          Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-07 12:20 -0500
            Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 11:46 -0700
              Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 12:25 -0700
              Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-08 00:17 -0400
                Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 03:21 -0700
                  Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-08 08:53 -0400
                    Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 06:03 -0700
                      Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-08 23:54 -0400
                        Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 03:25 -0700
                          Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-09 09:40 -0500
                          Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-09 11:40 -0400
    Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 16:10 -0700
      Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-09 21:13 -0400
        Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-09 21:13 -0500

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#575710 — Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-05-05 09:10 -0500
SubjectSolar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds
Message-ID<ngfk89$hgf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds

http://www.popsci.com/solar-power-towers-are-vaporizing-birds


Rewire reports that during the test, operators fired up a third of the 
110-megawatt facility’s mirrors, concentrating sunlight on a spot 1,200 
feet off the ground. Over a six-hour period, biologists counted 130 
"streamers," or trails of smoke and water left behind as birds ignited 
and plummeted to their deaths. Rewire’s anonymous source said that at 
least one of the birds "turned white hot and vaporized completely."

Another solar power plant, Ivanpah, reportedly scorches one bird every 
two minutes. Both companies are trying to devise measures to keep birds 
out of the concentrated solar energy.

It’s certainly a gruesome way to die.

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#576120

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-05-06 17:32 -0700
Message-ID<fc7d77ef-d7d7-44aa-a546-8c30c10353f3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#575710
On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 7:10:23 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds
> 
> http://www.popsci.com/solar-power-towers-are-vaporizing-birds
> 
> 
> Rewire reports that during the test, operators fired up a third of the 
> 110-megawatt facility's mirrors, concentrating sunlight on a spot 1,200 
> feet off the ground. Over a six-hour period, biologists counted 130 
> "streamers," or trails of smoke and water left behind as birds ignited 
> and plummeted to their deaths. Rewire's anonymous source said that at 
> least one of the birds "turned white hot and vaporized completely."
> 
> Another solar power plant, Ivanpah, reportedly scorches one bird every 
> two minutes. Both companies are trying to devise measures to keep birds 
> out of the concentrated solar energy.
> 
> It's certainly a gruesome way to die.


Shocking!

Double-A

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#576133

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-06 22:23 -0500
Message-ID<04ydndrWm41ewrDKnZ2dnUU7-VOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#576120
On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
> Shocking!
>
> Double-A
>

   Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds.

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#576148

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-05-07 03:56 +0000
Message-ID<jj500d-ull.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#576133
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>
>>
>> Shocking!
>>
>> Double-A
>>
> 
>   Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds.

A lot of the birds ARE the predators. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#576333

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-05-07 16:52 -0700
Message-ID<98923ea7-7b10-47de-a39b-c4d4435b9cc3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#576148
On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Shocking!
> >>
> >> Double-A
> >>
> > 
> >   Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds.
> 
> A lot of the birds ARE the predators. 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino


And most of those predatory birds are protected, so when they become the victims, the government will become very protective!

Double-A

 

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#576352

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-05-08 01:51 +0000
Message-ID<lmi20d-h31.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#576333
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Shocking!
>> >>
>> >> Double-A
>> >>
>> > 
>> >   Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds.
>> 
>> A lot of the birds ARE the predators. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jim Pennino
> 
> 
> And most of those predatory birds are protected, so when they become
> the victims, the government will become very protective!
> 
> Double-A

Except it is not; "green" power is getting a free pass for multiple
killings, one of which would put an ordinary person in jail for years
along with a huge fine.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#576872

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-09 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<b4b127c0-b69a-4e80-b8e7-bde09bd592c3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#576333
On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 4:53:01 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Shocking!
> > >>
> > >> Double-A
> > >>
> > > 
> > >   Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds.
> > 
> > A lot of the birds ARE the predators. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jim Pennino
> 
> 
> And most of those predatory birds are protected, so when they become the victims, the government will become very protective!
> 
> Double-A

I did a nice poem on singing birds.Its hanging in the Anaheim city hall,Senior center,and Fullerton's Civic Center.It gets to people's heart. Birds Sing because they are Free.I sing "God Bless America"and its way off in all of reality.America is now not free.Not for the people,and gives little happyness  TreBert

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#576875

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-09 16:24 -0700
Message-ID<ac3a9aab-409d-4f60-b1d3-707a66bb2025@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#576872
reber g=emc^2
- show quoted text -
I did a nice poem on singing birds.Its hanging in the Anaheim city hall,Senior center,and Fullerton's Civic Center.It gets to people's heart. Birds Sing because they are Free.
------------

Birds in cages sing. Just sayin

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#576898

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-09 19:34 -0500
Message-ID<ufqdnXocfO0CsazKnZ2dnUU7-fudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#576872
On 5/9/16 6:19 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Birds Sing because they are Free


   No they don't. Go to the library and find out why birds have songs.



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#576903

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-05-09 17:40 -0700
Message-ID<bba320a5-c2cf-4ef8-ba77-747ff4f4ab8c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#576898
On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 5:34:42 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/9/16 6:19 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > Birds Sing because they are Free
> 
> 
>    No they don't. Go to the library and find out why birds have songs.


The crows around here talk to each other!

Double-A

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#576910

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-09 19:45 -0500
Message-ID<ufqdnXYcfO2BsqzKnZ2dnUU7-fsAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#576903
On 5/9/16 7:40 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 5:34:42 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 5/9/16 6:19 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>> Birds Sing because they are Free
>>
>>
>>    No they don't. Go to the library and find out why birds have songs.
>
>
> The crows around here talk to each other!
>
> Double-A
>

   Not because they are free.

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#576943

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-05-09 21:12 -0500
Message-ID<ngrg31$5d7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#576910
On 5/9/2016 7:45 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/9/16 7:40 PM, Double-A wrote:
>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 5:34:42 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 5/9/16 6:19 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> Birds Sing because they are Free
>>>
>>>
>>>    No they don't. Go to the library and find out why birds have songs.
>>
>>
>> The crows around here talk to each other!
>>
>> Double-A
>>
>
>   Not because they are free.
>

songs birds sing are from their DNA.

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#576212

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2016-05-07 12:45 -0400
Message-ID<po6sibp8429o09e5g98ksdsdqsjkcsdhgc@4ax.com>
In reply to#576133
On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

>On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>
>>
>> Shocking!
>>
>> Double-A
>>
>
>   Quick and painless 

You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how?

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#576229

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-05-07 12:20 -0500
Message-ID<ngl853$vdr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#576212
On 5/7/2016 11:45 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>> On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Shocking!
>>>
>>> Double-A
>>>
>>
>>   Quick and painless
>
> You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how?
>

>
good point,

they don't go "poof" in the air and they are gone,

they are burned so badly their feathers catch fire, and they fall to 
earth smoking hot in a mass of pain, a black soot so foul is emmitted as 
they die an agonizing death on the ground. However on the positive side, 
this enhances flavor, and these birds are collected, throughly cooked 
and served up at the local restaraunt, called "Foul Streamer".

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#576241

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-07 11:46 -0700
Message-ID<9dc5a926-65b9-4003-91c9-652d93b7f0d1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#576229
Sergio
On 5/7/2016 11:45 AM, Wally W. wrote: 
> On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: 
> 
>> On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shocking! 
>>> 
>>> Double-A 
>>> 
>> 
>>   Quick and painless 
> 
> You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how? 
> 

> 
good point, 

they don't go "poof" in the air and they are gone, 

they are burned so badly their feathers catch fire, and they fall to 
earth smoking hot in a mass of pain, a black soot so foul is emmitted as 
they die an agonizing death on the ground. However on the positive side, 
this enhances flavor, and these birds are collected, throughly cooked 
and served up at the local restaraunt, called "Foul Streamer". 
------------

I see. So, sort of a 'green'  roadkill

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#576242

From"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-07 12:25 -0700
Message-ID<ef3c6080-7302-4321-a2ae-14ada19ac995@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#576241
On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 11:46:57 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
> Sergio
> On 5/7/2016 11:45 AM, Wally W. wrote: 
> > On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: 
> > 
> >> On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Shocking! 
> >>> 
> >>> Double-A 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>   Quick and painless 
> > 
> > You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how? 
> > 
> 
> > 
> good point, 
> 
> they don't go "poof" in the air and they are gone, 
> 
> they are burned so badly their feathers catch fire, and they fall to 
> earth smoking hot in a mass of pain, a black soot so foul is emmitted as 
> they die an agonizing death on the ground. However on the positive side, 
> this enhances flavor, and these birds are collected, throughly cooked 
> and served up at the local restaraunt, called "Foul Streamer". 
> ------------
> 
> I see. So, sort of a 'green'  roadkill

  Needs a new name.

  Skykill? It would work for windfarms too.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#576367

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-05-08 00:17 -0400
Message-ID<572ebdd5$0$48738$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#576241
On 05/07/2016 02:46 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Sergio
> On 5/7/2016 11:45 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shocking!
>>>>
>>>> Double-A
>>>>
>>>
>>>    Quick and painless
>>
>> You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how?
>>
>
>>
> good point,
>
> they don't go "poof" in the air and they are gone,
>
> they are burned so badly their feathers catch fire, and they fall to
> earth smoking hot in a mass of pain, a black soot so foul is emmitted as
> they die an agonizing death on the ground. However on the positive side,
> this enhances flavor, and these birds are collected, throughly cooked
> and served up at the local restaraunt, called "Foul Streamer".
> ------------
>
> I see. So, sort of a 'green'  roadkill
>
Great description of vile pain and suffering. You just made HVAC smile!

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#576414

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-08 03:21 -0700
Message-ID<8db90ddf-69e3-4563-b888-a945df10d994@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#576367
BJ quacked
Great description of vile pain and suffering. You just made HVAC smile! 
---------

As an outdoorsman and a hunter, I take no pleasure in seeing animals suffer.... Now, *people* are a different story altogether.

Can I get an Amen?

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#576434

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-05-08 08:53 -0400
Message-ID<572f36ca$0$2876$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#576414
On 05/08/2016 06:21 AM, HVAC drooled:
> BJ observed: Great description of vile pain and suffering. You just
> made HVAC smile! ---------
>
> As an outdoorsman and a hunter, I take no pleasure in seeing animals
> suffer.... Now, *people* are a different story altogether.
>
> Can I get an Amen?

Well, obviously HVAC does really enjoy killing all living things, still, 
it is hard to argue with his logic that there are certain people who 
definitely "need killing". It's just that most of us don't agree with 
HVAC as to just who those people are.

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#576442

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-08 06:03 -0700
Message-ID<53a50c12-c853-4854-81d8-b74ae31df7f2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#576434
Well, obviously HVAC does really enjoy killing all living things, still, 
it is hard to argue with his logic that there are certain people who 
definitely "need killing". It's just that most of us don't agree with 
HVAC as to just who those people are. 
------------

As I was discussing with one of my sons the other day, the only reason other people exist on this planet is for OUR entertainment. As such, I only favor the elimination of the very worse. And even then, we eradicate them not out of anger or hatred... But out of pity and the safety of the general population.

I'm sure everyone agrees

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