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| Started by | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| First post | 2016-05-05 09:10 -0500 |
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Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-05 09:10 -0500
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-05-06 17:32 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 22:23 -0500
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-07 03:56 +0000
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-05-07 16:52 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-08 01:51 +0000
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 16:19 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 16:24 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 19:34 -0500
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-05-09 17:40 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 19:45 -0500
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-09 21:12 -0500
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-05-07 12:45 -0400
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-07 12:20 -0500
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 11:46 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 12:25 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-08 00:17 -0400
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 03:21 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-08 08:53 -0400
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 06:03 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-08 23:54 -0400
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 03:25 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-09 09:40 -0500
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-09 11:40 -0400
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 16:10 -0700
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-09 21:13 -0400
Re: Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-09 21:13 -0500
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-05 09:10 -0500 |
| Subject | Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds |
| Message-ID | <ngfk89$hgf$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds http://www.popsci.com/solar-power-towers-are-vaporizing-birds Rewire reports that during the test, operators fired up a third of the 110-megawatt facility’s mirrors, concentrating sunlight on a spot 1,200 feet off the ground. Over a six-hour period, biologists counted 130 "streamers," or trails of smoke and water left behind as birds ignited and plummeted to their deaths. Rewire’s anonymous source said that at least one of the birds "turned white hot and vaporized completely." Another solar power plant, Ivanpah, reportedly scorches one bird every two minutes. Both companies are trying to devise measures to keep birds out of the concentrated solar energy. It’s certainly a gruesome way to die.
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-06 17:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fc7d77ef-d7d7-44aa-a546-8c30c10353f3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #575710 |
On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 7:10:23 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote: > Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds > > http://www.popsci.com/solar-power-towers-are-vaporizing-birds > > > Rewire reports that during the test, operators fired up a third of the > 110-megawatt facility's mirrors, concentrating sunlight on a spot 1,200 > feet off the ground. Over a six-hour period, biologists counted 130 > "streamers," or trails of smoke and water left behind as birds ignited > and plummeted to their deaths. Rewire's anonymous source said that at > least one of the birds "turned white hot and vaporized completely." > > Another solar power plant, Ivanpah, reportedly scorches one bird every > two minutes. Both companies are trying to devise measures to keep birds > out of the concentrated solar energy. > > It's certainly a gruesome way to die. Shocking! Double-A
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-06 22:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <04ydndrWm41ewrDKnZ2dnUU7-VOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #576120 |
On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: > > > Shocking! > > Double-A > Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-05-07 03:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jj500d-ull.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #576133 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: >> >> >> Shocking! >> >> Double-A >> > > Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds. A lot of the birds ARE the predators. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-07 16:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <98923ea7-7b10-47de-a39b-c4d4435b9cc3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #576148 |
On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: > >> > >> > >> Shocking! > >> > >> Double-A > >> > > > > Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds. > > A lot of the birds ARE the predators. > > -- > Jim Pennino And most of those predatory birds are protected, so when they become the victims, the government will become very protective! Double-A
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-05-08 01:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lmi20d-h31.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #576333 |
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote: > On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Shocking! >> >> >> >> Double-A >> >> >> > >> > Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds. >> >> A lot of the birds ARE the predators. >> >> -- >> Jim Pennino > > > And most of those predatory birds are protected, so when they become > the victims, the government will become very protective! > > Double-A Except it is not; "green" power is getting a free pass for multiple killings, one of which would put an ordinary person in jail for years along with a huge fine. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-09 16:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b4b127c0-b69a-4e80-b8e7-bde09bd592c3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #576333 |
On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 4:53:01 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote: > On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Shocking! > > >> > > >> Double-A > > >> > > > > > > Quick and painless and compared to predators getting the birds. > > > > A lot of the birds ARE the predators. > > > > -- > > Jim Pennino > > > And most of those predatory birds are protected, so when they become the victims, the government will become very protective! > > Double-A I did a nice poem on singing birds.Its hanging in the Anaheim city hall,Senior center,and Fullerton's Civic Center.It gets to people's heart. Birds Sing because they are Free.I sing "God Bless America"and its way off in all of reality.America is now not free.Not for the people,and gives little happyness TreBert
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-09 16:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ac3a9aab-409d-4f60-b1d3-707a66bb2025@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #576872 |
reber g=emc^2 - show quoted text - I did a nice poem on singing birds.Its hanging in the Anaheim city hall,Senior center,and Fullerton's Civic Center.It gets to people's heart. Birds Sing because they are Free. ------------ Birds in cages sing. Just sayin
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-09 19:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ufqdnXocfO0CsazKnZ2dnUU7-fudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #576872 |
On 5/9/16 6:19 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > Birds Sing because they are Free No they don't. Go to the library and find out why birds have songs. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-09 17:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bba320a5-c2cf-4ef8-ba77-747ff4f4ab8c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #576898 |
On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 5:34:42 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 5/9/16 6:19 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > Birds Sing because they are Free > > > No they don't. Go to the library and find out why birds have songs. The crows around here talk to each other! Double-A
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-09 19:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ufqdnXYcfO2BsqzKnZ2dnUU7-fsAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #576903 |
On 5/9/16 7:40 PM, Double-A wrote: > On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 5:34:42 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: >> On 5/9/16 6:19 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: >>> Birds Sing because they are Free >> >> >> No they don't. Go to the library and find out why birds have songs. > > > The crows around here talk to each other! > > Double-A > Not because they are free. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-09 21:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ngrg31$5d7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #576910 |
On 5/9/2016 7:45 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 5/9/16 7:40 PM, Double-A wrote: >> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 5:34:42 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: >>> On 5/9/16 6:19 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: >>>> Birds Sing because they are Free >>> >>> >>> No they don't. Go to the library and find out why birds have songs. >> >> >> The crows around here talk to each other! >> >> Double-A >> > > Not because they are free. > songs birds sing are from their DNA.
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-07 12:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <po6sibp8429o09e5g98ksdsdqsjkcsdhgc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #576133 |
On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: >On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: >> >> >> Shocking! >> >> Double-A >> > > Quick and painless You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how? Remember ... sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-07 12:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ngl853$vdr$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #576212 |
On 5/7/2016 11:45 AM, Wally W. wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: >>> >>> >>> Shocking! >>> >>> Double-A >>> >> >> Quick and painless > > You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how? > > good point, they don't go "poof" in the air and they are gone, they are burned so badly their feathers catch fire, and they fall to earth smoking hot in a mass of pain, a black soot so foul is emmitted as they die an agonizing death on the ground. However on the positive side, this enhances flavor, and these birds are collected, throughly cooked and served up at the local restaraunt, called "Foul Streamer".
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-07 11:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9dc5a926-65b9-4003-91c9-652d93b7f0d1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #576229 |
Sergio On 5/7/2016 11:45 AM, Wally W. wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: >>> >>> >>> Shocking! >>> >>> Double-A >>> >> >> Quick and painless > > You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how? > > good point, they don't go "poof" in the air and they are gone, they are burned so badly their feathers catch fire, and they fall to earth smoking hot in a mass of pain, a black soot so foul is emmitted as they die an agonizing death on the ground. However on the positive side, this enhances flavor, and these birds are collected, throughly cooked and served up at the local restaraunt, called "Foul Streamer". ------------ I see. So, sort of a 'green' roadkill
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-07 12:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ef3c6080-7302-4321-a2ae-14ada19ac995@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #576241 |
On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 11:46:57 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote: > Sergio > On 5/7/2016 11:45 AM, Wally W. wrote: > > On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > >> On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Shocking! > >>> > >>> Double-A > >>> > >> > >> Quick and painless > > > > You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how? > > > > > > good point, > > they don't go "poof" in the air and they are gone, > > they are burned so badly their feathers catch fire, and they fall to > earth smoking hot in a mass of pain, a black soot so foul is emmitted as > they die an agonizing death on the ground. However on the positive side, > this enhances flavor, and these birds are collected, throughly cooked > and served up at the local restaraunt, called "Foul Streamer". > ------------ > > I see. So, sort of a 'green' roadkill Needs a new name. Skykill? It would work for windfarms too. Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | benj <nobodyxx@gmail> |
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| Date | 2016-05-08 00:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <572ebdd5$0$48738$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #576241 |
On 05/07/2016 02:46 PM, HVAC wrote: > Sergio > On 5/7/2016 11:45 AM, Wally W. wrote: >> On Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:47 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >>> On 5/6/16 7:32 PM, Double-A wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Shocking! >>>> >>>> Double-A >>>> >>> >>> Quick and painless >> >> You know their feathers heating and catching fire is painless ... how? >> > >> > good point, > > they don't go "poof" in the air and they are gone, > > they are burned so badly their feathers catch fire, and they fall to > earth smoking hot in a mass of pain, a black soot so foul is emmitted as > they die an agonizing death on the ground. However on the positive side, > this enhances flavor, and these birds are collected, throughly cooked > and served up at the local restaraunt, called "Foul Streamer". > ------------ > > I see. So, sort of a 'green' roadkill > Great description of vile pain and suffering. You just made HVAC smile!
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-08 03:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8db90ddf-69e3-4563-b888-a945df10d994@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #576367 |
BJ quacked Great description of vile pain and suffering. You just made HVAC smile! --------- As an outdoorsman and a hunter, I take no pleasure in seeing animals suffer.... Now, *people* are a different story altogether. Can I get an Amen?
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| From | benj <nobodyxx@gmail> |
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| Date | 2016-05-08 08:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <572f36ca$0$2876$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #576414 |
On 05/08/2016 06:21 AM, HVAC drooled: > BJ observed: Great description of vile pain and suffering. You just > made HVAC smile! --------- > > As an outdoorsman and a hunter, I take no pleasure in seeing animals > suffer.... Now, *people* are a different story altogether. > > Can I get an Amen? Well, obviously HVAC does really enjoy killing all living things, still, it is hard to argue with his logic that there are certain people who definitely "need killing". It's just that most of us don't agree with HVAC as to just who those people are.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-08 06:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <53a50c12-c853-4854-81d8-b74ae31df7f2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #576434 |
Well, obviously HVAC does really enjoy killing all living things, still, it is hard to argue with his logic that there are certain people who definitely "need killing". It's just that most of us don't agree with HVAC as to just who those people are. ------------ As I was discussing with one of my sons the other day, the only reason other people exist on this planet is for OUR entertainment. As such, I only favor the elimination of the very worse. And even then, we eradicate them not out of anger or hatred... But out of pity and the safety of the general population. I'm sure everyone agrees
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