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Review | Gradient

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2015-11-01 13:47 -0600
Last post2015-11-01 12:57 -0800
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  Review | Gradient Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 13:47 -0600
    Re: Review | Gradient "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 12:08 -0800
      Re: Review | Gradient Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 14:17 -0600
        Re: Review | Gradient "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 12:23 -0800
      Re: Review | Gradient Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-02 00:01 +0000
        Re: Review | Gradient "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 16:07 -0800
          Re: Review | Gradient Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-02 00:11 +0000
            Re: Review | Gradient "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 16:12 -0800
    Re: Review | Gradient jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-01 20:08 +0000
      Re: Review | Gradient Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-01 23:37 +0000
    Re: Review | Gradient Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-01 12:57 -0800

#529751 — Review | Gradient

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-01 13:47 -0600
SubjectReview | Gradient
Message-ID<8OadnZLPpr_M8avLnZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
Review | Gradient
> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Gradient.html

> The term "gradient" has several meanings in mathematics. The simplest
> is as a synonym for slope.
>
> The more general gradient, called simply "the" gradient in vector
> analysis, is a vector operator denoted del  and sometimes also called
> del or nabla. It is most often applied to a real function of three
> variables f(u_1,u_2,u_3), and may be denoted...


> The direction of del f is the orientation in which the directional
> derivative has the largest value and |del f| is the value of that
> directional derivative. Furthermore, if del f!=0, then the gradient
> is perpendicular to the level curve through (x_0,y_0) if z=f(x,y) and
> perpendicular to the level surface through (x_0,y_0,z_0) if
> F(x,y,z)=0.


   More from Wikipedia
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradient



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#529754

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-01 12:08 -0800
Message-ID<151b9627-64d0-4cb2-a9c7-a31be8b7d8ea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#529751
On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 11:47:33 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Review | Gradient
> > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Gradient.html
> 

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Infinity.html

"Yang-Mills gradient flow"

http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.00118

Notes interesting points and features of parallel 
transport vis-à-vis point, local, global, and total 
settings.

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#529757

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-01 14:17 -0600
Message-ID<8OadnYzPpr_q7qvLnZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#529754
On 11/1/15 2:08 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 11:47:33 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Review | Gradient
>>> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Gradient.html
>>
>
> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Infinity.html
>
> "Yang-Mills gradient flow"
>
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.00118
>
> Notes interesting points and features of parallel
> transport vis-à-vis point, local, global, and total
> settings.
>

   What is significant about the Yang-Mills gradient flow and
   renormalization, Ross?



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#529758

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-01 12:23 -0800
Message-ID<c8032343-1d05-42d1-a3c4-422b85a80781@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#529757
On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 11/1/15 2:08 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 11:47:33 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >> Review | Gradient
> >>> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Gradient.html
> >>
> >
> > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Infinity.html
> >
> > "Yang-Mills gradient flow"
> >
> > http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.00118
> >
> > Notes interesting points and features of parallel
> > transport vis-à-vis point, local, global, and total
> > settings.
> >
> 
>    What is significant about the Yang-Mills gradient flow and
>    renormalization, Ross?
> 
> 

Notes interesting points and features of parallel
transport vis-à-vis point, local, global, and total
settings.

Excuse me, I'm not a usual instructor in a post-graduate 
astronomical or cosmological setting.

I'm a usual instructor in unfettered modern mathematics.

Ah, for a mathematical physics:  those are the same thing.

That's part of a theoretical mathematical physics there 
with the conscientiously scientific setting and general 
survey and review of experimental data as in the high-energy 
physics.

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#529804

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-02 00:01 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.02.00.01.19@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#529754
On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 12:08:55 -0800, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:

> 
> "Yang-Mills gradient flow"
> 
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.00118
> 
> Notes interesting points and features of parallel 
> transport vis-à-vis point, local, global, and total 
> settings.
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

What prompts this disjoint blabber?  It serves no purpose other than
to state: "Look at me.  Look at what I can do."

Big effing deal.  It's the signature of an effing loser.

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#529806

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-01 16:07 -0800
Message-ID<29c8f86a-74a0-4aa1-90fd-ccb9059bb9c1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#529804
On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:01:31 PM UTC-8, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 12:08:55 -0800, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > "Yang-Mills gradient flow"
> > 
> > http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.00118
> > 
> > Notes interesting points and features of parallel 
> > transport vis-à-vis point, local, global, and total 
> > settings.
> >
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
> 
> What prompts this disjoint blabber?  It serves no purpose other than
> to state: "Look at me.  Look at what I can do."
> 
> Big effing deal.  It's the signature of an effing loser.

Notes interesting points and features of parallel 
transport vis-à-vis point, local, global, and total 
settings. 

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#529807

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-02 00:11 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.02.00.11.25@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#529806
On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 16:07:51 -0800, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:

> 
> Notes interesting points and features of parallel 
> transport vis-à-vis point, local, global, and total 
> settings.
>

Echolalia and echopraxia.  Classic signs of dementia.

You got it, bub.

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#529808

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-01 16:12 -0800
Message-ID<21f597e5-9c65-4402-b402-d8e390f5a011@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#529807
On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:11:32 PM UTC-8, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 16:07:51 -0800, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Notes interesting points and features of parallel 
> > transport vis-à-vis point, local, global, and total 
> > settings.
> >
> 
> Echolalia and echopraxia.  Classic signs of dementia.
> 
> You got it, bub.

Are you a physicist or a would-be psychologist?

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#529756

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-11-01 20:08 +0000
Message-ID<i38igc-3qm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#529751
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Review | Gradient
>> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Gradient.html
> 
>> The term "gradient" has several meanings in mathematics. The simplest
>> is as a synonym for slope.
>>
>> The more general gradient, called simply "the" gradient in vector
>> analysis, is a vector operator denoted del  and sometimes also called
>> del or nabla. It is most often applied to a real function of three
>> variables f(u_1,u_2,u_3), and may be denoted...
> 
> 
>> The direction of del f is the orientation in which the directional
>> derivative has the largest value and |del f| is the value of that
>> directional derivative. Furthermore, if del f!=0, then the gradient
>> is perpendicular to the level curve through (x_0,y_0) if z=f(x,y) and
>> perpendicular to the level surface through (x_0,y_0,z_0) if
>> F(x,y,z)=0.
> 
> 
>   More from Wikipedia
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradient

Oh whoopdee fucking doo; mathmatics to a physics group. 
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#529798

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-01 23:37 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.01.23.36.03@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#529756
On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 20:08:50 +0000, jimp wrote:

> 
> Oh whoopdee fucking doo; mathmatics to a physics group.
>

Actually, the concept of gradient is fundamentally important
to physics.  For one thing, it defines the relation between
force and potential, and it is the idea of potential that
unifies nearly all physical laws.

But the gradient should already so familiar to physicists that
it would hardly need mentioning.

I suppose that Wormley has just discovered it.

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#529766

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-11-01 12:57 -0800
Message-ID<9f082c97-64cf-4053-b4b4-ce2563ad3578@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#529751
On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 11:47:33 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Review | Gradient
> > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Gradient.html
> 
> > The term "gradient" has several meanings in mathematics. The simplest
> > is as a synonym for slope.
> >
> > The more general gradient, called simply "the" gradient in vector
> > analysis, is a vector operator denoted del  and sometimes also called
> > del or nabla. It is most often applied to a real function of three
> > variables f(u_1,u_2,u_3), and may be denoted...
> 
> 
> > The direction of del f is the orientation in which the directional
> > derivative has the largest value and |del f| is the value of that
> > directional derivative. Furthermore, if del f!=0, then the gradient
> > is perpendicular to the level curve through (x_0,y_0) if z=f(x,y) and
> > perpendicular to the level surface through (x_0,y_0,z_0) if
> > F(x,y,z)=0.
> 
> 
>    More from Wikipedia
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradient


What about the divergence and the curl?

Double-A

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