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| First post | 2015-11-22 20:41 -0600 |
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Re: Finding Gravity Waves Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 20:41 -0600
Re: Finding Gravity Waves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-23 06:15 +0000
Re: Finding Gravity Waves Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-23 14:06 -0800
Re: Finding Gravity Waves xxein1@att.net - 2015-11-23 19:50 -0800
Re: Finding Gravity Waves Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 07:53 -0600
Re: Finding Gravity Waves HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 07:22 -0800
Re: Finding Gravity Waves Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 09:26 -0600
Re: Finding Gravity Waves HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 07:45 -0800
Re: Finding Gravity Waves benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 13:56 -0500
Re: Finding Gravity Waves "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 15:15 -0800
Re: Finding Gravity Waves "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 17:52 -0800
Re: Finding Gravity Waves benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 13:54 -0500
Re: Finding Gravity Waves Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-24 13:57 -0800
Re: Finding Gravity Waves Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 07:47 -0600
Re: Finding Gravity Waves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-24 22:13 +0000
| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-22 20:41 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Finding Gravity Waves |
| Message-ID | <Gq2dnXOyj6t54c_LnZ2dnUU7-QOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
On 7/2/15 2:57 PM, Double-A wrote: > Everybody needs to make money. Everybody's got their gig. For Al > Gore it's global warming. For politicians it's elective office. For > con men it's some scam. For researchers it's some intriguing topic > they can get grant money to research. I speak as somebody who tried > to get along without money, and you know how that went. > > Double-A Science is funded by corporations, individuals, universities and governments. The funding is required to create the research instruments, fund the graduate students and researchers--moving forward in better understanding of physical principles. Without a good science backbone, things quickly deteriorate. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 06:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5hnaic-q1l.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #534689 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/2/15 2:57 PM, Double-A wrote: >> Everybody needs to make money. Everybody's got their gig. For Al >> Gore it's global warming. For politicians it's elective office. For >> con men it's some scam. For researchers it's some intriguing topic >> they can get grant money to research. I speak as somebody who tried >> to get along without money, and you know how that went. >> >> Double-A > > > Science is funded by corporations, individuals, universities and > governments. The funding is required to create the research > instruments, fund the graduate students and researchers--moving > forward in better understanding of physical principles. > > Without a good science backbone, things quickly deteriorate. It only took you 4 months to respond with this childish nonsense? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 14:06 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <eabe3963-a5bb-45e7-b9ea-36bcbf2dc428@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534689 |
On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 6:41:44 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 7/2/15 2:57 PM, Double-A wrote: > > Everybody needs to make money. Everybody's got their gig. For Al > > Gore it's global warming. For politicians it's elective office. For > > con men it's some scam. For researchers it's some intriguing topic > > they can get grant money to research. I speak as somebody who tried > > to get along without money, and you know how that went. > > > > Double-A > > > Science is funded by corporations, individuals, universities and > governments. The funding is required to create the research > instruments, fund the graduate students and researchers--moving > forward in better understanding of physical principles. > > Without a good science backbone, things quickly deteriorate. > It took you a while to read my post. I will agree that a "good science backbone" is good. Double-A
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| From | xxein1@att.net |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 19:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ec69c5a5-96a7-43d3-9d0d-fe41b5e4520c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534917 |
On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 5:06:25 PM UTC-5, Double-A wrote: > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 6:41:44 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 7/2/15 2:57 PM, Double-A wrote: > > > Everybody needs to make money. Everybody's got their gig. For Al > > > Gore it's global warming. For politicians it's elective office. For > > > con men it's some scam. For researchers it's some intriguing topic > > > they can get grant money to research. I speak as somebody who tried > > > to get along without money, and you know how that went. > > > > > > Double-A > > > > > > Science is funded by corporations, individuals, universities and > > governments. The funding is required to create the research > > instruments, fund the graduate students and researchers--moving > > forward in better understanding of physical principles. > > > > Without a good science backbone, things quickly deteriorate. > > > > It took you a while to read my post. I will agree that a "good science backbone" is good. > > Double-A xxein: You'll never find the true gravity if you rely on that "good science backbone" you think we have. How do I know? I found gravity and it's hardly anything like you could imagine with present science. And yet it is compatible with all you think it should be. And a little more - which, for present science, will be a lot.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 07:53 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <9uqdnTJxseZZ9snLnZ2dnUU7-V8AAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #534973 |
On 11/23/15 9:50 PM, xxein1@att.net wrote: > I found gravity and it's hardly anything like you could imagine with present science Some have a harder time than others. Newton's gravitational law (pretty dang excellent BTW) is fairly easy for most students to grasp. Einstein's gravity is harder for students to warp their minds around, but is a better model of how nature behaves. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 07:22 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <cc4c904c-695f-4c72-84cd-8bd0c53a7918@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #535028 |
Almost every major scientific idea is at its heart, simple and beautiful. Yet it is this very simplicity that makes it anathema to kooks here. BJ, John and others simply can and will not accept reality. Why? Because reality and science don't include their kooky beliefs and notions. Let's start with the kooks belief in ghosts. BJ is positive they are real, but gets mad because science demands evidence. There is absolutely zero evidence for ghosts. Matter of fact, there is no modality in which consciousness can exist after brain death. Why do kooks love such things?
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 09:26 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ZNednTyr64sIHMnLnZ2dnUU7-f2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #535057 |
On 11/24/15 9:22 AM, HVAC wrote: > Almost every major scientific idea is at its heart, simple and > beautiful. Yet it is this very simplicity that makes it anathema to > kooks here. BJ, John and others simply can and will not accept > reality. Why? Because reality and science don't include their kooky > beliefs and notions. You make BJ, John and Boit sound like the three stooges! I keep them in my ploncker's cellar -- outta sight -- outta mind > > Let's start with the kooks belief in ghosts. BJ is positive they are > real, but gets mad because science demands evidence. There is > absolutely zero evidence for ghosts. Matter of fact, there is no > modality in which consciousness can exist after brain death. > > Why do kooks love such things? >
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 07:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <290d57ee-5a95-4a3e-b7f6-016a80a75367@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #535059 |
Âs Moderator I am tasked with monitoring every post.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 13:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <Fp25y.105413$ij2.452@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #535062 |
On 11/24/2015 10:45 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Âs Moderator I am tasked with monitoring every post.
>
Just as I said! Today must be Thursday! So he thinks he's Moderator.
Tomorrow he'll be Napoleon.
What a nutjob! Is there ANYONE here ignorant enough to believe anything
this kook says?
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 15:15 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6164c8de-5cec-4b30-a417-858e7b80bb2c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #535059 |
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 7:26:17 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 11/24/15 9:22 AM, HVAC wrote: > > Almost every major scientific idea is at its heart, simple and > > beautiful. Yet it is this very simplicity that makes it anathema to > > kooks here. BJ, John and others simply can and will not accept > > reality. Why? Because reality and science don't include their kooky > > beliefs and notions. > > You make BJ, John and Boit sound like the three stooges! I keep them > in my ploncker's cellar -- outta sight -- outta mind > > > > > Let's start with the kooks belief in ghosts. BJ is positive they are > > real, but gets mad because science demands evidence. There is > > absolutely zero evidence for ghosts. Matter of fact, there is no > > modality in which consciousness can exist after brain death. > > > > Why do kooks love such things? > > Lots of time and money for 100 years went trying to detect gravity waves. What went wrong? How close did they come? What went wrong with LIGO? What has LIGO cost so far? How long can it last? Is it screwed up and Mafia GOPer NASA covering it up? Their experts on that. Who is keeping the books? Did they copy any of Rube Goldberg's comic engineering? I think a hearing should be done on LIGO to clear the air. Don't the taxpayers have any say? TreBert
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 17:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <79c22488-1329-4b61-8cb4-6ac33f5061bf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #535234 |
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 3:15:35 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 7:26:17 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 11/24/15 9:22 AM, HVAC wrote: > > > Almost every major scientific idea is at its heart, simple and > > > beautiful. Yet it is this very simplicity that makes it anathema to > > > kooks here. BJ, John and others simply can and will not accept > > > reality. Why? Because reality and science don't include their kooky > > > beliefs and notions. > > > > You make BJ, John and Boit sound like the three stooges! I keep them > > in my ploncker's cellar -- outta sight -- outta mind > > > > > > > > Let's start with the kooks belief in ghosts. BJ is positive they are > > > real, but gets mad because science demands evidence. There is > > > absolutely zero evidence for ghosts. Matter of fact, there is no > > > modality in which consciousness can exist after brain death. > > > > > > Why do kooks love such things? > > > > > Lots of time and money for 100 years went trying to detect gravity waves. What went wrong? How close did they come? What went wrong with LIGO? What has LIGO cost so far? How long can it last? Is it screwed up and Mafia GOPer NASA covering it up? Their experts on that. Who is keeping the books? Did they copy any of Rube Goldberg's comic engineering? I think a hearing should be done on LIGO to clear the air. Don't the taxpayers have any say? TreBert This Treb just came up with."How can a particle(graviton) have no mass" and still have a wave going for it? Maybe Sam can answer that.O Ya TreBert
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 13:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <Ln25y.105412$ij2.93530@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #535057 |
On 11/24/2015 10:22 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Almost every major scientific idea is at its heart, simple and
> beautiful. Yet it is this very simplicity that makes it anathema to
> kooks here. BJ, John and others simply can and will not accept
> reality. Why? Because reality and science don't include their kooky
> beliefs and notions.
>
> Let's start with the kooks belief in ghosts. BJ is positive they are
> real, but gets mad because science demands evidence. There is
> absolutely zero evidence for ghosts. Matter of fact, there is no
> modality in which consciousness can exist after brain death.
>
> Why do kooks love such things?
>
We have FROTH! Spin, Kook, SPIN!
H&V just hums along in his own little fantasy world where he uses his
superpowers to "know" what everyone believes. He can't find out any
other way because he knows too little science to actually discuss a
scientific subject. On Thursdays he thinks he NewsGroup moderator, and
on Fridays he "knows" he's Napoleon! Nutjob!
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 13:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <4e10fc00-1619-4711-899a-8ca2d33eacd2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534973 |
On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 7:50:54 PM UTC-8, xxe...@att.net wrote: > On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 5:06:25 PM UTC-5, Double-A wrote: > > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 6:41:44 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > On 7/2/15 2:57 PM, Double-A wrote: > > > > Everybody needs to make money. Everybody's got their gig. For Al > > > > Gore it's global warming. For politicians it's elective office. For > > > > con men it's some scam. For researchers it's some intriguing topic > > > > they can get grant money to research. I speak as somebody who tried > > > > to get along without money, and you know how that went. > > > > > > > > Double-A > > > > > > > > > Science is funded by corporations, individuals, universities and > > > governments. The funding is required to create the research > > > instruments, fund the graduate students and researchers--moving > > > forward in better understanding of physical principles. > > > > > > Without a good science backbone, things quickly deteriorate. > > > > > > > It took you a while to read my post. I will agree that a "good science backbone" is good. > > > > Double-A > > xxein: You'll never find the true gravity if you rely on that "good science backbone" you think we have. How do I know? I found gravity and it's hardly anything like you could imagine with present science. And yet it is compatible with all you think it should be. And a little more - which, for present science, will be a lot. I eagerly await your paper on the subject! Double-A
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 07:47 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <9uqdnTNxsebv98nLnZ2dnUU7-V-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #534917 |
On 11/23/15 4:06 PM, Double-A wrote: > I will agree that a "good science backbone" is good. Thanks. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 22:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i04fic-sve.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #535025 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/23/15 4:06 PM, Double-A wrote: >> I will agree that a "good science backbone" is good. > > > Thanks. Good lord, you are dense. -- Jim Pennino
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