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I've known about this misconception for 25 years now

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2016-02-23 18:25 -0800
Last post2016-02-25 16:37 -0600
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  I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 18:25 -0800
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 02:45 +0000
      Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 13:26 -0800
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 22:53 +0000
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-23 18:53 -0800
      Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 06:33 +0100
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 08:09 -0600
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 07:21 -0800
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-23 21:47 -0600
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 23:21 -0600
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 09:07 -0800
      Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-24 11:24 -0600
      Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 11:33 -0600
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 18:34 +0000
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 12:02 -0800
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-24 14:28 -0600
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 20:36 +0000
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 13:11 -0800
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 22:58 +0000
              Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 17:26 -0800
                Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-25 02:18 +0000
      Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 18:30 +0000
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 13:30 -0800
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-24 15:39 -0600
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 23:00 +0000
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 17:28 -0800
              Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-25 02:23 +0000
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 15:33 -0800
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 17:32 -0800
              Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-25 02:24 +0000
              Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 19:14 -0800
              5/2 decades of noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 14:16 -0800
              Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-25 16:37 -0600

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#556390

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-25 02:18 +0000
Message-ID<ht42qc-ejn.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#556373
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 3:01:07 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> > How is it that you know that now but you didn't know that yesterday? 
>> > Were you not, yesterday, claiming that the clarity of clear, moist air
>> > is evidence that confirms that the moisture therein is gaseous?  Or
>> > do I have you confused with somebody else?  
>> 
>> I'm afraid you have everything confused.
> 
> Apparently not.

Yes, you do.

>> Note that saying a particular thing is not proof is not the same thing
>> as saying there is no proof.
> 
> You can't unring a bell.

Irrelevant babble.

You obviously did NOT understand the following:

Note that saying a particular thing is not proof is not the same thing
as saying there is no proof.

Let me explain it terms a 10 year old can understand.

Saying that experiment A does not prove a particular thing means 
experiment A is false but says NOTHING about experiments B, C, D, E, F...


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#556253

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-24 18:30 +0000
Message-ID<rf91qc-5lk.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#556228
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:25:07 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> 
> We can ask the same question here.  Can any of you explain why your
> ambient temperature, gaseous H2O does not show up under laboratory
> conditions?  Does it not like laboratories?  

They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
experiments on your own.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#556317

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-24 13:30 -0800
Message-ID<40fbcdf1-0f2b-4eb4-bf49-760a87d3e4c0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#556253
On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:25:07 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > 
> > We can ask the same question here.  Can any of you explain why your
> > ambient temperature, gaseous H2O does not show up under laboratory
> > conditions?  Does it not like laboratories?  
> 
> They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
> experiments on your own.

Does this "literature," exist in the real world?  Or just your imagination?  

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#556320

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-02-24 15:39 -0600
Message-ID<nal7vh$n0c$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#556317
On 2/24/2016 3:30 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:25:07 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>>>
>>> We can ask the same question here.  Can any of you explain why your
>>> ambient temperature, gaseous H2O does not show up under laboratory
>>> conditions?  Does it not like laboratories?
>>
>> They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
>> experiments on your own.
>

I hang my wet shirt out to dry on the clothesline after an hour it is
completely dry.

there was no wet spot under the shirt.

how did the water get out ?

No smoke came off it at all.

did my shirt out-gas ?


what kind of gas ?

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#556340

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-24 23:00 +0000
Message-ID<t9p1qc-mbm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#556317
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:25:07 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>> > 
>> > We can ask the same question here.  Can any of you explain why your
>> > ambient temperature, gaseous H2O does not show up under laboratory
>> > conditions?  Does it not like laboratories?  
>> 
>> They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
>> experiments on your own.
> 
> Does this "literature," exist in the real world?  Or just your imagination?  

It is blazingly obvious to everyone but you that the literature of thousands
of people over hundreds of years exists, and I even gave you a pointer
to a few.

Just how much spoon feeding do you require?

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#556375

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-24 17:28 -0800
Message-ID<d2ad54d6-674e-4288-a076-1d8d127ae236@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#556340
On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 3:01:07 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> >> They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
> >> experiments on your own.
> > 
> > Does this "literature," exist in the real world?  Or just your imagination?  
> 
> It is blazingly obvious to everyone

It's regrettable "everyone" isn't help you find direct reference to your imaginary literature.

> but you that the literature of thousands

One will suffice.  Keep working on it.

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#556391

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-25 02:23 +0000
Message-ID<7552qc-gmn.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#556375
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 3:01:07 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> >> They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
>> >> experiments on your own.
>> > 
>> > Does this "literature," exist in the real world?  Or just your imagination?  
>> 
>> It is blazingly obvious to everyone
> 
> It's regrettable "everyone" isn't help you find direct reference to your

Learn how to format text.

This is USENET and real news readers don't handle line lengths longer
than 78 characters well and also refuse to post responses with more
than a few lines longer than 78 characters.

That means I have to waste additional time on your delusional posts hand
editing the line lengths.


> 
>> but you that the literature of thousands
> 
> One will suffice.  Keep working on it.

As I already said, I have given you several.

How much spoon feeding do you require? 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#556352

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2016-02-24 15:33 -0800
Message-ID<06f3e878-93c6-47d7-9041-2ca19b4def5b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#556317
On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> > They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
> > experiments on your own.
> 
> Does this "literature," exist in the real world?  Or just your imagination?

Does any literature exist in the real world that proves your position that humid air is heavier than dry air? There is no such proof, and I, too, have $100,000 that says it is just your imagination. Prove me wrong, if you can. But you can't, and you won't.

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#556376

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-24 17:32 -0800
Message-ID<a4989060-0078-43ae-8312-8b380f1d2a55@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#556352
On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 3:33:26 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
> > > They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
> > > experiments on your own.
> > 
> > Does this "literature," exist in the real world?  Or just your imagination?
> 
> Does any literature exist in the real world that proves your position that humid air is heavier than dry air?

No it does not.  But the steam tables do indicate that water does not turn to gas at ambient temperatures.  So I am inferring from that.  

Do you have any information that water can be a gas at ambient temperatures?  Keep in mind that your imagination is not evidence.  Answer my question you evasive twit.

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#556392

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-25 02:24 +0000
Message-ID<0852qc-gmn.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#556376
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 3:33:26 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>> > > They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
>> > > experiments on your own.
>> > 
>> > Does this "literature," exist in the real world?  Or just your imagination?
>> 
>> Does any literature exist in the real world that proves your position that humid air is heavier than dry air?
> 
> No it does not.  But the steam tables do indicate that water does not


Learn how to format text.

This is USENET and real news readers don't handle line lengths longer
than 78 characters well and also refuse to post responses with more
than a few lines longer than 78 characters.

That means I have to waste additional time on your delusional posts hand
editing the line lengths.

> 
> Do you have any information that water can be a gas at ambient temperatures?

Learn how to format text.

This is USENET and real news readers don't handle line lengths longer
than 78 characters well and also refuse to post responses with more
than a few lines longer than 78 characters.

That means I have to waste additional time on your delusional posts hand
editing the line lengths.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#556404

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2016-02-24 19:14 -0800
Message-ID<aefd0ca0-8981-4b82-b1f3-dfde18300306@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#556376
On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 5:32:53 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 3:33:26 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > 
> > > > They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to do any
> > > > experiments on your own.
> > > 
> > > Does this "literature," exist in the real world?  Or just your imagination?
> > 
> > Does any literature exist in the real world that proves your position that humid air is heavier than dry air?
> 
> No it does not.

That's what I thought. 

Loser.

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#556666 — 5/2 decades of

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-25 14:16 -0800
Subject5/2 decades of
Message-ID<57c97a03-c9f8-444a-a7d0-31c1febf6529@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#556376
just learn the measurement of partial pressures;
do some thing that takes a tiny effort

> No it does not.  But the steam tables do indicate that water does not turn to gas at ambient temperatures.  So I am inferring from that.  
> 
> Do you have any information that water can be a gas at ambient temperatures?  Keep in mind that your imagination is not evidence.  Answer my question you evasive twit.

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#556674

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-02-25 16:37 -0600
Message-ID<nanvno$154a$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#556376
On 2/24/2016 7:32 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 3:33:26 PM UTC-8,
> pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-8, James McGinn
>> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-8,
>>> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>> They do but you refuse to look at the literature and refuse to
>>>> do any experiments on your own.
>>>
>>> Does this "literature," exist in the real world?  Or just your
>>> imagination?
>>
>> Does any literature exist in the real world that proves your
>> position that humid air is heavier than dry air?
>
> No it does not.

so you admit you lied.


> But the steam tables do indicate that water does not
> turn to gas at ambient temperatures.

liar.


> So I am inferring from that.

your inferring outta you ass. You woudn't know a steam table if someone 
cooked you on it.


> Do you have any information that water can be a gas at ambient
> temperatures?

you say there is not, prove it.

I hang my wet shirt out to dry on the clothesline after an hour it is
completely dry.  there was no wet spot under the shirt at all.

how did the water get out ?

No "smoke" came off it at all.

did my shirt out-gas ?  did the water come out as a gas ?

water gas ?  Water Vapor ?  Humidity ?


so How can that happen when you say there is no such thing on earth ?

a counter example you refuse to answer ?

did you make a mistake ?

It blows a HUGE hole in you.

> Keep in mind that your imagination is not evidence.
> Answer my question you evasive twit.
>

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