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Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests

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First post2018-08-15 14:58 -0700
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  Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-08-15 14:58 -0700
    Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 15:57 -0700
      Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-15 16:37 -0700
    Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-08-15 22:58 +0000
      Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-08-16 06:38 +0200
        Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-08-16 05:14 +0000
          Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-08-16 08:01 +0200
            Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-08-16 16:49 +0000
          Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-08-16 08:06 +0200
            Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-08-16 16:52 +0000
    Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 16:32 -0700
    Re:Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-08-16 06:36 +0200
    Re: Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-16 08:43 -0700

#698617 — Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests

Fromsam.wormley@gmail.com
Date2018-08-15 14:58 -0700
SubjectTheoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
Message-ID<9e28abdc-d4cd-4ca5-9b39-1a01814b5378@googlegroups.com>
Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests

No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.

Sam Wormley

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#698625

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-15 15:57 -0700
Message-ID<d6d38ef6-b0b7-4f80-8c7d-246fbbe19255@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#698617
On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 7:58:06 AM UTC+10, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
>     https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests
> 
> No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.

True that no Nobel Prizes were given for relativity, but Nobel Prizes have been given for quantum theory which is simply wrong, but even as a wrong theory finds some use.
> 
> Sam Wormley

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#698631

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-08-15 16:37 -0700
Message-ID<cdcb0360-15c8-4154-b096-28cc58cdf658@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#698625
On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 3:57:22 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 7:58:06 AM UTC+10, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
> >     https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests
> > 
> > No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.
> 
> True that no Nobel Prizes were given for relativity, but Nobel Prizes have been given for quantum theory which is simply wrong, but even as a wrong theory finds some use.
> > 
> > Sam Wormley

Quantum theory has been a philosophy. Observer Created Reality
is the one thing Einstein couldn't go along with the most.

He didn't like it. He is validated now. The Two Slit Experiment
only works if some order from the past can be changed in the future.
That the future can change what has already happened is not
science. Einstein knew this...

The new phenomenon of light collapsing the wave function (at light speed)
replaced the absurd Copenhagen Philosophy... it wasn't science.

Einstein needed the opportunity to say that OCR wasn't science.

If you go away from order you are not doing science...
Going away from causality by future changing the past
the absurd that is not real scientific order... OCR
is replaced by a real scientific order phenomenon
that validates Einstein position to his very end.
No one has to doubt that Einstein won that argument...
The world of science might want you to.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#698626

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2018-08-15 22:58 +0000
Message-ID<4qne4f-i66.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#698617
sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
> Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
>     https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests
> 
> No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.
> 
> Sam Wormley

Obama got a Peace Prize while the country was embroiled in war.

It is not unusual for a Nobel Prize choice to be assailed as pliticized,
parochial or just misguided.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#698679

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-08-16 06:38 +0200
Message-ID<pl2v4o$4p1$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#698626
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Wrote in message:
> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>> Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
>>     https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests
>> 
>> No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.
>> 
>> Sam Wormley
> 
> Obama got a Peace Prize while the country was embroiled in war.
> 
> It is not unusual for a Nobel Prize choice to be assailed as pliticized,
> parochial or just misguided.
> 

It depends on which one.
The above is comparing apples with cars.


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#698682

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2018-08-16 05:14 +0000
Message-ID<hqdf4f-n88.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#698679
Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@capitalsgmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Wrote in message:
>> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
>>>     https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests
>>> 
>>> No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.
>>> 
>>> Sam Wormley
>> 
>> Obama got a Peace Prize while the country was embroiled in war.
>> 
>> It is not unusual for a Nobel Prize choice to be assailed as pliticized,
>> parochial or just misguided.
>> 
> 
> It depends on which one.

While such is less prevelant in the hard sciences, it does happen.

Why was there all that internal Nobel hand-wringing over giving Einstein
the Nobel in 1921 for his explaination of the photoelectric effect and
why nothing for anything else he did?

http://discovermagazine.com/2006/sep/einstein-nobel-prize/

> The above is comparing apples with cars.

More like apples and pears.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#698685

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-08-16 08:01 +0200
Message-ID<pl340p$p1q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#698682
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@capitalsgmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Wrote in message:
>>> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
>>>>     https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests
>>>> 
>>>> No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.
>>>> 
>>>> Sam Wormley
>>> 
>>> Obama got a Peace Prize while the country was embroiled in war.
>>> 
>>> It is not unusual for a Nobel Prize choice to be assailed as pliticized,
>>> parochial or just misguided.
>>> 
>> 
>> It depends on which one.
> 
> While such is less prevelant in the hard sciences, it does happen.
> 
> Why was there all that internal Nobel hand-wringing over giving Einstein
> the Nobel in 1921 for his explaination of the photoelectric effect and
> why nothing for anything else he did?

Indecisive yet results on ToR tests and strong opposition of
 German  physicists.

-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

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Miloš Forman


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#698727

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2018-08-16 16:49 +0000
Message-ID<lhmg4f-fgc.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#698685
Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@capitalsgmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Wrote in message:
>> Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@capitalsgmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Wrote in message:
>>>> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
>>>>>     https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests
>>>>> 
>>>>> No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sam Wormley
>>>> 
>>>> Obama got a Peace Prize while the country was embroiled in war.
>>>> 
>>>> It is not unusual for a Nobel Prize choice to be assailed as pliticized,
>>>> parochial or just misguided.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> It depends on which one.
>> 
>> While such is less prevelant in the hard sciences, it does happen.
>> 
>> Why was there all that internal Nobel hand-wringing over giving Einstein
>> the Nobel in 1921 for his explaination of the photoelectric effect and
>> why nothing for anything else he did?
> 
> Indecisive yet results on ToR tests and strong opposition of
>  German  physicists.

In other words, Einstein was a Jew and the Germans were not about to give
prizes to a Jew. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#698687

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-08-16 08:06 +0200
Message-ID<pl348l$qas$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#698682
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Wrote in message:

>> The above is comparing apples with cars.
> 
> More like apples and pears.
>  
Well, peace is to science as cars to fruits. The peace price
 decision is driven mainly by politics, the price for sciences is
 not.



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#698728

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2018-08-16 16:52 +0000
Message-ID<vmmg4f-fgc.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#698687
Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@capitalsgmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Wrote in message:
> 
>>> The above is comparing apples with cars.
>> 
>> More like apples and pears.
>>  
> Well, peace is to science as cars to fruits. The peace price
>  decision is driven mainly by politics, the price for sciences is
>  not.
 
Nonsense; if Einstein hadn't been a Jew, there would have been no controversy
over awarding him a Nobel and likely he would have been awarded several. 
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#698629

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-15 16:32 -0700
Message-ID<4b04762f-f129-4b72-a1bf-b898b1299084@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#698617
Sam
“Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests ”
I theorize that orbitals may be explained by synchronized orthogonal pathways.
I experiment with various combinations of these.
I find a nice one to explain the S orbital.

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#698676

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-08-16 06:36 +0200
Message-ID<pl2v19$4p1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#698617
sam.wormley@gmail.com Wrote in message:
> Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
>     https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests
> 
> No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.
> 
Yes, but the second half of the truth is, the experiments are
 pointless without theoretical physics.

-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


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#698721

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-08-16 08:43 -0700
Message-ID<4cc65a5c-fdef-4389-847c-0767ff5d07e8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#698617
On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 12:58:06 AM UTC+3, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> Theoretical Physics Is Pointless without Experimental Tests
>     https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/theoretical-physics-is-pointless-without-experimental-tests
> 
> No Nobel Prizes were ever awarded for an unverified theory.
> 
> Sam Wormley
========================
(:-)
sammi 
'God particle ' by Higgs the magic particle that'' gives mass to particles''
while any partilce has mass!!the only mass 
because that is how God created it ??
does not raise big questions ???!
====
Y.P
==============


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