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  Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:22 -0400
    Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 01:58 -0700
      Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 05:32 -0700
        Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 06:04 -0700
          Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 07:36 -0700
            Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:03 -0700
              Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:56 -0700
                Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 10:14 -0700
                  Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-24 16:40 -0400
                  Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:43 -0700
              Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-24 16:29 -0400
          Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-24 16:18 -0400
        Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 06:17 -0700
          Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 07:05 -0700
            Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:20 -0700
              Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:15 -0700
                Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-24 20:25 -0400
                  benj again admits being a lying troll jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-04-25 00:36 +0000
                    Re: benj again admits being a lying troll benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 17:04 -0400
                      Re: benj again admits being a lying troll jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-04-25 22:00 +0000
                        Re: benj again admits being a lying troll benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 19:09 -0400
                          Re: benj again admits being a lying troll jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-04-26 00:06 +0000
                  Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 18:19 -0700
                    Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-04-25 01:47 +0000
                      Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 17:09 -0400
                        Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-04-25 22:01 +0000
                          Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 19:10 -0400
                            Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-04-26 00:06 +0000
                    Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-04-24 22:53 -0500
                    Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 17:05 -0400
                  Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 17:13 -0700
                    Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 21:07 -0400
                      Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 02:36 -0700
                        Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 06:02 -0700
                          Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 06:21 -0700
                            Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 08:09 -0700
                              Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 08:36 -0700
                                Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 09:30 -0700
                                  Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 11:54 -0700
                              Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 18:08 -0400
                                Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 16:04 -0700
                                  Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-04-26 23:37 +0000
                                    Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 20:00 -0400
                                      Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-04-27 00:11 +0000
                                  Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 19:50 -0400
                                  Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 19:56 -0400
                          Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 07:58 -0700
                            Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 18:06 -0400
                              Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 17:43 -0700
                        Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 18:03 -0400
                      Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 16:56 -0700
                        Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 20:43 -0400
                          Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 07:19 -0700
                            Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 05:01 -0700
                              Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 05:40 -0700
        Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-24 16:17 -0400
      Re: Kooks Have To Suck On This benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-24 16:03 -0400

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#630801

BJ quacked
Use English much? I day that you've never seen a BH and ligo is pure 
Bullshit just like the BB. 
----------

So let me sum up. You say that the big bang, black holes and LIGO are 'bullshit', yet you steadfastly believe in ghosts, aliens, esp, etc.

Ok gotcha

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#630809

HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Use English much? I day that you've never seen a BH and ligo is pure 
> Bullshit just like the BB. 
> ----------
> 
> So let me sum up. You say that the big bang, black holes and LIGO are 'bullshit', yet you steadfastly believe in ghosts, aliens, esp, etc.
> 
> Ok gotcha

Don't forget he also said "Sorry, Looperji, but while I do love to troll
and lie..." which makes everything he posts worthless.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#630814

On 4/26/2017 7:37 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>> BJ quacked
>> Use English much? I day that you've never seen a BH and ligo is pure
>> Bullshit just like the BB.
>> ----------
>>
>> So let me sum up. You say that the big bang, black holes and LIGO are 'bullshit', yet you steadfastly believe in ghosts, aliens, esp, etc.
>>
>> Ok gotcha
>
> Don't forget he also said "Sorry, Looperji, but while I do love to troll
> and lie..." which makes everything he posts worthless.
>
AS usual, Chimp has trouble thinking. He is so uneducated and dumb he 
can't tell the lies from the science. So Chimp just denies all science 
and goes with HVAC fantasies. They have such a nice cosy little warm 
world together. So if I say I believe in ghosts then that means 
according to you that this must be a lie, hence HVAC is lying about me 
believing in ghosts. Right? Can your senile brain follow that one?

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#630816

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 4/26/2017 7:37 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> BJ quacked
>>> Use English much? I day that you've never seen a BH and ligo is pure
>>> Bullshit just like the BB.
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> So let me sum up. You say that the big bang, black holes and LIGO are 'bullshit', yet you steadfastly believe in ghosts, aliens, esp, etc.
>>>
>>> Ok gotcha
>>
>> Don't forget he also said "Sorry, Looperji, but while I do love to troll
>> and lie..." which makes everything he posts worthless.
>>

<snip benj troll babble>

Nothing left.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#630810

On 4/26/2017 7:04 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Use English much? I day that you've never seen a BH and ligo is pure
> Bullshit just like the BB.
> ----------
>
> So let me sum up. You say that the big bang, black holes and LIGO are 'bullshit', yet you steadfastly believe in ghosts, aliens, esp, etc.
>
> Ok gotcha
>
Lessee. You worship black holes, Big Band, Ligo,

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#630813

On 4/26/2017 7:04 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked Use English much? I day that you've never seen a BH and
> ligo is pure Bullshit just like the BB. ----------
>
> So let me sum up. You say that the big bang, black holes and LIGO are
> 'bullshit', yet you steadfastly believe in ghosts, aliens, esp, etc.
>
> Ok gotcha
>
You worship black holes, Big Bang, Ligo, Ghosts, vampires, werewolves 
and government bureaurats, but are so embarrassed by it you have to lie 
and accuse everyone else of believing in the ghosts that you secretly 
worship? You are one sick dude.

PS. Probability says ESP and Aliens are real. Oh wait, You don't believe 
in probability in science. Gotcha.

Here, let me do YOUR kind of science: HVAC Believes in Big Bang, Black 
holes, LIGO, ghosts, vampires and Werewolves, but I say they don't exist 
and I am the sword of truth so my word is ALL The proof anyone needs 
that anyone who believes in these things is an insane Kook.

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#630738

Loopy says
Pretentious HVAC's 25 years, and still counting, posting his insane 
gay boy nonsense.  I'll bet, in your HVACuous Utopia everybody is gay. 
Stop salivating, HVAC. Gay heaven awaits you. Follow the light... 
-----------

You shouldn't make fun of homos

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#630788

On 4/26/2017 10:58 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Loopy says
> Pretentious HVAC's 25 years, and still counting, posting his insane
> gay boy nonsense.  I'll bet, in your HVACuous Utopia everybody is gay.
> Stop salivating, HVAC. Gay heaven awaits you. Follow the light...
> -----------
>
> You shouldn't make fun of homos
>
HVAC is part of the GLBTQAXYZ community, MyPalji and is VERY sensitive 
because he's not out of the closet yet. That's why he's anonymous. HVAC 
AKA "Harlow" is the name he uses when he's out in gay bars.

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#630819

On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:07:47 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 4/26/2017 10:58 AM, HVAC wrote:
> > Loopy says
> >> Pretentious HVAC's 25 years, and still counting, posting his insane
> >> gay boy nonsense.  I'll bet, in your HVACuous Utopia everybody is gay.
> >> Stop salivating, HVAC. Gay heaven awaits you. Follow the light...
> > -----------
> >
> > You shouldn't make fun of homos

Who said I was making fun of homos? I was making fun of you, HVAC!

> HVAC is part of the GLBTQAXYZ community, MyPalji and is VERY sensitive 
> because he's not out of the closet yet. That's why he's anonymous. HVAC 
> AKA "Harlow" is the name he uses when he's out in gay bars.

Hey hey HEY... I know there's a negation missing in there regards me. 

Sure... Guys have been trying to shove me into the closet since way back
in high school.  Recently when I went to bars in NYC, it got worse. Bad!
I'd go home alone pondering: Why don't that many girls hit on me?! Sad!

Reason? The girls must think I'm too cute to be hetro. O(y)e...

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल ... "My Pal" or "Maple"... as in Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. 

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#630786

On 4/26/2017 5:36 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Ah, the good old days! Hey, I remember BEFORE there was loud music from
> small groups. Hell! I was THERE when Moon Dog invented rock and roll.
> About now is when Chimp and other uninformed Luddites start screaming
> that I'm producing babbling gibberish. YOU, of course know better and of
> what I speak.
> ---------------
>
> Of course! Loopy pretends to understand your 'babbling gibberish' because you are the only one here who appreciates his favorite gay boy band.
>
HVAC is gay.

Apology accepted

I"m sure you have no idea who Moon Dog is and I'll bet Looperji does. 
One more proof that you know nothing, have no education and know even 
less about life than Chimp. MyPalji, has an education, knows science, 
understands what I'm saying and sees through your silly act.

What college did you study in the Eddington Wing again?

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#630812

On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 9:08:20 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 4/25/2017 8:13 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 8:28:14 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> >> On 4/24/2017 7:15 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 12:20:04 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:

<trim>

> >>> OTOH ... First of all, BenjJi was a student of Dr. Yang, of Yang-Mills fame.
> >>> BenjJi discusses Physics very cogently, insightfully. He does make jokes too!
> >>> BenjJi recently shared three physics articles, pdfs, he himself wrote.
> >>
> >> Sorry, Looperji, but while I do love to troll and lie to the clowns and
> >> kooks here like Chimp and HVAC, I must correct your error of fact. Yes,
> >> I was a student of Dr. Yang, but not THAT Dr. Yang. I was indeed a
> >> student of Dr. Mills of Yang-Mills fame. I was told at that time by
> >> other students that the Yang in question was the brother of that Dr.
> >> Yang. However Odd has "proved" that this could not be true. So Yang must
> >> have been SOME kind of relative. But no matter, Yes, Mills was THAT
> >> Mills and it was 3 quarters of graduate level QM OK? Anybody got better
> >> QM credentials? Didn't think so.  Hey, you know I can also pull rank and
> >> show I studied under a Nobel laureate as well. Got Nobel? I constantly
> >> warn HVAC about trying to get into a credential war with me, but he just
> >> lives in his own little fantasy world.
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification, BenjJi. I got a minor detail wrong. O well.
> > When I was writing that, I was recalling, was it Yang or Mills? I went Yang.
> > Since I got that detail wrong, I now recant anything nice I said of you. Adieu!
> >
> > I love QM/QED/QCD. I have never earned money off of said knowledge. Rusty now.
> > Stuff like: The probability of an electron being really anywhere is finite.
> > Dr. JAW: All the electrons in the Universe is just one electron. Moving very fast!
> 
> It was Professor Mills who got me convinced that QM is the science of 
> ignorance (my expression) Basically nothing is known and the best you 
> can do is calculate some probabilities. No wonder it drove Einstein 
> nuts! But everyone pretends like everything is known.

Well QM is due to Planck, not the OneStone. E=hf. Isn't it a historical
fact that the probability math of QM was developed after Einstein had died?

I could be mistaken, but per Wikipedia: Quantum probability was developed
in the 1980s as a noncommutative analog of the Kolmogorovian theory of
stochastic processes.

They pretend everything is known until the annual funding by grants time.

> >>> If anyone can handle Usenet Abuse, BenjJi has done so very well.
> >>> Also, I'm not going to stand idly by, watching someone else get bullied.
> >>
> >> Hey, I told you all I'm a pro! Hide like a rhinoceros! Other pros like
> >> HVAC and I understand each other perfectly. We are just doing a little
> >> sparing and having some fun. Unfortunately it's a little much for some
> >> civilians to understand and they get appalled at what they
> >> see/hear/read. Not our problem.
> >
> > He he... Ok.
> > Then why not go spar in secret somewhere, you CloakedGuys?!
> > Get a room! Both of you, remember to keep your clothes on at all times.
> 
> EEEEW! You are creating disgusting images in myh mind, Looperji!

Sorry, BenjJi. It was more horrific writing it than others having to read it!

<trim>

> >> A science "norm" is free access to all science information. Charging for
> >> journals goes directly against science and civilization and using that
> >> position to censor all information is even worse. This is slowly
> >> improving, though.
> >
> > Closed Networks, Small Cliques, ..., Secret Societies, Freemasons' 33. O(y)e.
> 
> Business as usual...
> 
> > Once at University of Pennsylvania, my girlfriend and I were walking to dinner.
> > Suddenly, this elderly Orthodox Jew came running out and asked for help.
> > Excitedly he pointed out, it's the Sabbath (Saturday) and we can't do
> > any work. Please help. Sure, I agreed. He walked us into a long dinner
> > hall full of 30+ others all in black dresses, the men with beards.
> >
> > Over back there, he said. We think there's a gas leak and this whole
> > building's gonna blow! Help. I spoke, so you thought, it was ok for
> > you to risk mine and my girlfriend's life because it's against your
> > religion to do any work from Friday night through Sabbath Saturday?!
> > I tried to give a physics lesson, hey you know running is work?
> > He didn't laugh. Not even a condescending Orthodox smirk. Fix gas leak, please.
> >
> > I went into this dark basement, alone. Checked around. There was no
> > gas leak. My then girlfriend did start calling me MacGyver after that.
> > Now she doesn't call me for time of day. Whatever will be, will be...
> 
> Imaginary Jewish gas leak? Oye. Truly strange story. Once upon a time I 
> worked in area 10. (and you thought there was only area 51, right?) one 
> of the guys in the group was Jewish. He was sort of big jovial guy who 
> kind of reminded you of Schultz on Hogan's Heroes (yeah I know it's a 
> weird analogy) Anyway he just came back from Israel and was complaining 
> about orthodox practices (he wasn't very religious) and naturally we all 
> got around to the subject of work on the Sabbath. In particular, how one 
> can take a healthy dump on the Sabbath and wipe your own butt. He 
> explained that no, they did not have goy ass-wipes there for the 
> orthodox, BUT Friday evening he said they'd come round and tear off 
> lengths of toilet paper and place them in baskets in the bathrooms. 
> Obviously some physics lessons were needed.  I guess you'll need to 
> query Hanson for more information.

Absolutely true events! Philadelphian Orthodox Jew's imaginary gas leak story.
Well, I have embellished the dialogue a slight bit, in retrospect. Sue me.
They could've asked me and my girlfriend to stay for dinner?! But no. Get OUT!

Schultz: I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nothing, I am nothing! Food, where?

Given your story/feedback, I'll put on my forensics hat for a second.
It could be the elderly guy was just smelling his own gas emissions.
He's wearing this long thick black cloak/robe which basically went from
his neck-to-toe. His own odors had nowhere to go but up and into his nose. 

Others at the dinner table made and smelled the same odors. Ergo, he
runs out to the street to get some fresh air! Quickly concocts some,
as haHaHA hansonJi would say, some Yiddisher street corner act, and
cons me into sniffing at the floor, in the dark, under the furnace.

The Old CYA: It wasn't me, I swear! The furnace is leaking and kaBoom gonna happen!

Ftr... no fires or explosions were reported in that neighbourhood.

HansonJi is a little bit less interactive these days.

> >>> Recently I ordered a guidance book for entrepreneurs. After it arrived,
> >>> I Googled for it, its author. I found a free pdf version in no time.
> >>
> >> Hint: Download free pdf version BEFORE ordering the paper copy.
> >
> > Now you tell me, BenjJi! Ever think of going into Monday Morning Quarterbacking?!
> >
> > There really is no sane reason why every book can't be available in digital form.
> 
> Yes there is. There is just something special about a REAL book. One you 
> can snuggle up with and learn the secrets of the Mills conjecture or 
> something. A computer, even a tablet is just not the same. Just call me 
> a sensitive liberal!

My computer screen is like 50+ inches HDTV, makes reading very easy for me.
The only thing special about real paper books is the need for reading glasses.
Afterall, we all, want for the message, not the medium it's transmitted by.

I download ShakeHisSpeare's works from the digital internet/WWW to read them.
I doubt the greatest works of literature were published just last year.

<trim>

> >> Oh whine, whine! (no offense) Look Grasshopper, you either work hourly,
> >> or you work salary. Hourly, at 6:00 you go home. Goodbye. Salary you get
> >> paid a fixed (large) amount to get the job done. It's up to you to
> >> deliver. Stay up all night if it takes it. What the company gets for
> >> your work is irrelevant to you. Million dollar patent and you get one
> >> dollar. You agreed to it so shut up. If you don't know what your work is
> >> worth then find a nice hourly warehouse job.
> >
> > I remember working at/under NASA GSFC. The first week, they insisted
> > we all sign a legal contract, assigning NASA all rights to any inventions
> > we might make. Else, you're on the street in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, ... seconds.
> > What's it gonna be boy|girl? Yes or No? I can wait ten seconds. Sign!
> 
> Yup, but that is expected. when it gets bad is when patents are applied 
> for and the people who invented it aren't on it, just the bosses.

It's fucking crazy, even to ask that contract of anyone else! Yet so it is.

Microsoft acquired WhatsApp, Skype, linkedin, ... and pretends it invented 
all these sub-services. Google, now rebranded Alphabet, does the same with
all its owned acquisitions/mergers.  Dog eats other dogs' meatWorld...

> > I prefer the word diatribe, not whine. I'm just highlighting a fact.
> > It's inhumane to work people like machines. I was really glad when I
> > was let go and found a job that paid the same and I had to do near
> > nothing. I could watch and advise. But no computer access was granted
> > to me while waiting for the GMICKs to complete their background
> > security clearance checks of me. They did actually interview my
> > neighbours, who I hardly knew. Or they I. What could they say? His
> > name is Mahipal, did not know that. He does work on his yard a lot.
> 
> So did uou get it? It's important because of your previous complaint 
> about needing current clearance. If you had it before it's a snap to get 
> it again ...IF they want you.

Nope, that was for the one USVISIT (== United States Visitor and Immigrant
Status Indicator Technology) job. Have never sought a job that requires 
a security clearance since. Once bit, twice I'd have to be nuts!

<trim>

> >>>> yes hvac does but here he started off on a good foot.
> >>>
> >>> No HVAC did not. His opening word in the title of this thread is Kooks.
> >>> Some of us have to read it, for he mentions a few specific names daily.
> >>
> >> What is amazing about propaganda is the gullibility of civilians. HVAC
> >> has lied and fabricated all manner of fantasies but the lurkers just
> >> soak it all in and then next thing you know they are repeating it as
> >> truth, even if you pointedly asked them if they thought HVAC was telling
> >> the truth, and they'd say "no". They just forget where they herd that
> >> HVAC was so wonderful and everyone else was so kooky.
> >
> > Hey BenjJi, you're going to have to be way more coherent than that if
> > you're hoping to outperform a random phrase generator! He he...
> 
> Well, KCIR is pretty stiff competition!

I have never ever even opened to read KCIR. Maybe once by clicking accident.

> >>> You are new here Ed. This NG has a much longer history. With many regulars.
> >>> I never tell anyone who to read or who not to read. Their freedom/choice.
> >>
> >> Telling people what to read and what to believe is the job of our
> >> moderator, HVAC. He's really good at that.
> >
> > Sometimes I tell my kids to listen to certain songs. They often do.
> > I never tell them what not to listen to, well not directly. Also,
> > modern kids listen to music via private headphones. Not like the good
> > old days, when we'd blast the music on maximum volume of loud speakers.
> 
> Ah, the good old days! Hey, I remember BEFORE there was loud music from 
> small groups. Hell! I was THERE when Moon Dog invented rock and roll. 
> About now is when Chimp and other uninformed Luddites start screaming 
> that I'm producing babbling gibberish. YOU, of course know better and of 
> what I speak.

Cool, Moondog! Very interesting. He is new to me, I have to admit.
Moondog, a blind man making music! Amazing. Will make time to listen.
Still, not as challenging as Beethoven composing music while deaf. No?

> >>>> He and benj should just both back off for a while.
> >>>
> >>> Sure they should. How can BenjJi back-off when HVAC mentions him in just
> >>> about every subject line HVAC initiates? Know the Victim from the Stalker.
> >>
> >> Civilians! War games are just games, not war. Dig?
> >
> > Them WarMongers work for us Civilians! O wait... was I duped, AGAIN?! USA!
> 
> Yup.

<trim>

> >> Not like you'll find anyone to discuss physics/math in this group either
> >> except perhaps by accident.
> >
> > That's too frightening! But I gather your gist, BenjJi. Physics is a
> > niche market, small audience. Pop TV physics is just CGI. Atoms, gas
> > clouds, strings, explosions, lots of KaBooms, wildAssClaims, spinning
> > black holes, floating clouds of random inapplicable equations...
> > overblown hype of persistently worshipping of ...youKnow, The OneStone.
> >
> > I still watch. Much like gas, Time's gotta pass. S(y)ndrome.
> > This leads to me m(y) latest new theory: Time Is Gaseous (TM, SM, and BMW).
> 
> Time is GAs theory? Wow! That's right on the money! Sounds like maybe 
> one or two Nobels! I how the Eddinton wing asks you for a lecture!

I'm going to take that as a compliment, since Time Is Gaseous! It is written.
I'm trying envision what kind of CGI might capture that idea. Life is to laugh.

> > Example of wildAssClaims: It's amazing how well we know what happened
> > 3 seconds after the Big Bang! It's so exciting, I can't contain myself!
> > Yet I have no fashion sense and can't ever find matching socks to wear.
> >
> > Used to be a time, most authors had *.edu email addresses. The good old days.
> > Nobody expects a dissertation detail to be discussed here. Most physcists
> > are too paranoid to do that anyway, worried Mahipal will steal their formulas.
> 
> Yep, and of course they have experience that they will.
> 
> >>> I did make friends with a Math Professor in Jersey City, at a tavern.
> >>> He'd buy me drinks, I'd buy him drinks the next time. Rarely, I mean
> >>> rarely, did we discuss Math. What, am I supposed to sign up for his
> >>> classes to discuss Math with him?! Overall, a very nice guy.
> >>
> >> Hey want to discuss math? I want to prove NP=P. Working on the TSP to
> >> show NP complete = P. Hey grasshopper, you are a SW dude. So give me
> >> some insight. Last time I brought this up here all I got was hiss in the
> >> band. I was sure Rolf at least would have a comment or HVAC show us how
> >> he wrote that math textbook he says he "coauthored". Place filled with
> >> nothing but phonies. Million bucks waiting for the NP=P solution. No
> >> need for unemployment checks then.
> >
> > Nondeterministic polynomial (NP) time versus polynomial time (P)...
> > That NP=P kind of math problem is above my skill level. I think it was
> > discussed a lot in my CFD class. I shrugged it off as ...interesting.
> 
> Oh maple looperji! You are so self-defeating. Grasshopper, remember that 
> quote from "the art of war" where all battles are won in the minds of 
> the combatants before the battle ever starts. Now retract that "above my 
> skill level" nonsense. Fermat could just about solve his in the margin 
> of his book. All it ever takes is one good idea. training and other crap 
> make center the mind but it doesn't give the answer. YOu need ESP for that.

Well there are arguments for my self-inflicted self-defeating thoughts/attitude.
Accept your limits, and they become yours. Something like that.
A simple Google search quickly found the exact quote...

“Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours.”
-- Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah. Richard Bach.

> > Just like FLT (Fermat's Last Theorem), that Dr. Andrew Wiles resolved back in
> > the day I was a graduate student at Princeton. MathHeads were thrilled!
> > No, not because I was there, because of Dr. Wiles's proof. Be real, not silly.
> > I never did get to attend any seminar/lecture Dr. Wiles might have held.
> > To this day, I wonder if there have been any practical applications of FLT's proof.
> 
> Too bad Wiles did it wrong the first time and had to go back and fix it. 
> Still was way to complex. Not at all what Fermat had in mind. That one 
> is still out there in the aether.

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-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Grasshopper Mode...”

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#630818

On 4/26/2017 7:56 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 9:08:20 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
>> On 4/25/2017 8:13 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 8:28:14 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
>>>> On 4/24/2017 7:15 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 12:20:04 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>
> <trim>
>
>>>>> OTOH ... First of all, BenjJi was a student of Dr. Yang, of Yang-Mills fame.
>>>>> BenjJi discusses Physics very cogently, insightfully. He does make jokes too!
>>>>> BenjJi recently shared three physics articles, pdfs, he himself wrote.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, Looperji, but while I do love to troll and lie to the clowns and
>>>> kooks here like Chimp and HVAC, I must correct your error of fact. Yes,
>>>> I was a student of Dr. Yang, but not THAT Dr. Yang. I was indeed a
>>>> student of Dr. Mills of Yang-Mills fame. I was told at that time by
>>>> other students that the Yang in question was the brother of that Dr.
>>>> Yang. However Odd has "proved" that this could not be true. So Yang must
>>>> have been SOME kind of relative. But no matter, Yes, Mills was THAT
>>>> Mills and it was 3 quarters of graduate level QM OK? Anybody got better
>>>> QM credentials? Didn't think so.  Hey, you know I can also pull rank and
>>>> show I studied under a Nobel laureate as well. Got Nobel? I constantly
>>>> warn HVAC about trying to get into a credential war with me, but he just
>>>> lives in his own little fantasy world.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification, BenjJi. I got a minor detail wrong. O well.
>>> When I was writing that, I was recalling, was it Yang or Mills? I went Yang.
>>> Since I got that detail wrong, I now recant anything nice I said of you. Adieu!
>>>
>>> I love QM/QED/QCD. I have never earned money off of said knowledge. Rusty now.
>>> Stuff like: The probability of an electron being really anywhere is finite.
>>> Dr. JAW: All the electrons in the Universe is just one electron. Moving very fast!
>>
>> It was Professor Mills who got me convinced that QM is the science of
>> ignorance (my expression) Basically nothing is known and the best you
>> can do is calculate some probabilities. No wonder it drove Einstein
>> nuts! But everyone pretends like everything is known.
>
> Well QM is due to Planck, not the OneStone. E=hf. Isn't it a historical
> fact that the probability math of QM was developed after Einstein had died?

Schrödinger developed the equation by locking himself in a remote cabin 
in 1925. Einstein died in April 1955. YOu lose. Bet HVAC knew this. He 
knows almost all science.

> I could be mistaken, but per Wikipedia: Quantum probability was developed
> in the 1980s as a noncommutative analog of the Kolmogorovian theory of
> stochastic processes.

That's just jargon for math fantasy, namely noncommutative probability 
space, which is obviously one of those fantasy ghost things that HVAC 
believes in. Simple fact is that solutions to the complex Schroedinger 
wave equation times their complex conjugate is probability density and 
always has been since 1925. You don't really care, do you?

> They pretend everything is known until the annual funding by grants time.
>
>>>>> If anyone can handle Usenet Abuse, BenjJi has done so very well.
>>>>> Also, I'm not going to stand idly by, watching someone else get bullied.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I told you all I'm a pro! Hide like a rhinoceros! Other pros like
>>>> HVAC and I understand each other perfectly. We are just doing a little
>>>> sparing and having some fun. Unfortunately it's a little much for some
>>>> civilians to understand and they get appalled at what they
>>>> see/hear/read. Not our problem.
>>>
>>> He he... Ok.
>>> Then why not go spar in secret somewhere, you CloakedGuys?!
>>> Get a room! Both of you, remember to keep your clothes on at all times.
>>
>> EEEEW! You are creating disgusting images in myh mind, Looperji!
>
> Sorry, BenjJi. It was more horrific writing it than others having to read it!

I feel your pain!

> <trim>
>
>>>> A science "norm" is free access to all science information. Charging for
>>>> journals goes directly against science and civilization and using that
>>>> position to censor all information is even worse. This is slowly
>>>> improving, though.
>>>
>>> Closed Networks, Small Cliques, ..., Secret Societies, Freemasons' 33. O(y)e.
>>
>> Business as usual...
>>
>>> Once at University of Pennsylvania, my girlfriend and I were walking to dinner.
>>> Suddenly, this elderly Orthodox Jew came running out and asked for help.
>>> Excitedly he pointed out, it's the Sabbath (Saturday) and we can't do
>>> any work. Please help. Sure, I agreed. He walked us into a long dinner
>>> hall full of 30+ others all in black dresses, the men with beards.
>>>
>>> Over back there, he said. We think there's a gas leak and this whole
>>> building's gonna blow! Help. I spoke, so you thought, it was ok for
>>> you to risk mine and my girlfriend's life because it's against your
>>> religion to do any work from Friday night through Sabbath Saturday?!
>>> I tried to give a physics lesson, hey you know running is work?
>>> He didn't laugh. Not even a condescending Orthodox smirk. Fix gas leak, please.
>>>
>>> I went into this dark basement, alone. Checked around. There was no
>>> gas leak. My then girlfriend did start calling me MacGyver after that.
>>> Now she doesn't call me for time of day. Whatever will be, will be...
>>
>> Imaginary Jewish gas leak? Oye. Truly strange story. Once upon a time I
>> worked in area 10. (and you thought there was only area 51, right?) one
>> of the guys in the group was Jewish. He was sort of big jovial guy who
>> kind of reminded you of Schultz on Hogan's Heroes (yeah I know it's a
>> weird analogy) Anyway he just came back from Israel and was complaining
>> about orthodox practices (he wasn't very religious) and naturally we all
>> got around to the subject of work on the Sabbath. In particular, how one
>> can take a healthy dump on the Sabbath and wipe your own butt. He
>> explained that no, they did not have goy ass-wipes there for the
>> orthodox, BUT Friday evening he said they'd come round and tear off
>> lengths of toilet paper and place them in baskets in the bathrooms.
>> Obviously some physics lessons were needed.  I guess you'll need to
>> query Hanson for more information.
>
> Absolutely true events! Philadelphian Orthodox Jew's imaginary gas leak story.
> Well, I have embellished the dialogue a slight bit, in retrospect. Sue me.
> They could've asked me and my girlfriend to stay for dinner?! But no. Get OUT!
>
> Schultz: I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nothing, I am nothing! Food, where?
>
> Given your story/feedback, I'll put on my forensics hat for a second.
> It could be the elderly guy was just smelling his own gas emissions.
> He's wearing this long thick black cloak/robe which basically went from
> his neck-to-toe. His own odors had nowhere to go but up and into his nose.

STINK FUNNEL!  I smell valuable patent!

> Others at the dinner table made and smelled the same odors. Ergo, he
> runs out to the street to get some fresh air! Quickly concocts some,
> as haHaHA hansonJi would say, some Yiddisher street corner act, and
> cons me into sniffing at the floor, in the dark, under the furnace.
>
> The Old CYA: It wasn't me, I swear! The furnace is leaking and kaBoom gonna happen!

Smell not as explosive as methane.

> Ftr... no fires or explosions were reported in that neighbourhood.
>
> HansonJi is a little bit less interactive these days.

Just do. His Jew antenna should have perked up at the posting of you 
story though.

>>>>> Recently I ordered a guidance book for entrepreneurs. After it arrived,
>>>>> I Googled for it, its author. I found a free pdf version in no time.
>>>>
>>>> Hint: Download free pdf version BEFORE ordering the paper copy.
>>>
>>> Now you tell me, BenjJi! Ever think of going into Monday Morning Quarterbacking?!
>>>
>>> There really is no sane reason why every book can't be available in digital form.
>>
>> Yes there is. There is just something special about a REAL book. One you
>> can snuggle up with and learn the secrets of the Mills conjecture or
>> something. A computer, even a tablet is just not the same. Just call me
>> a sensitive liberal!
>
> My computer screen is like 50+ inches HDTV, makes reading very easy for me.
> The only thing special about real paper books is the need for reading glasses.
> Afterall, we all, want for the message, not the medium it's transmitted by.

Can't curl up to a computer screen, and anyway thoe evil gummint 
computer rays cause eye strain and cloud men's minds. Although the pure 
white reflective tablets like say Kindle solve the rays problem but I 
still don't like them.

> I download ShakeHisSpeare's works from the digital internet/WWW to read them.
> I doubt the greatest works of literature were published just last year.

And the way you know this is? Been taking science lessons from HVAC? 
Superpowers like his, I presume. Hey have you forgotten *I* wrote a book 
last year? And in MODERN English too!

> <trim>
>
>>>> Oh whine, whine! (no offense) Look Grasshopper, you either work hourly,
>>>> or you work salary. Hourly, at 6:00 you go home. Goodbye. Salary you get
>>>> paid a fixed (large) amount to get the job done. It's up to you to
>>>> deliver. Stay up all night if it takes it. What the company gets for
>>>> your work is irrelevant to you. Million dollar patent and you get one
>>>> dollar. You agreed to it so shut up. If you don't know what your work is
>>>> worth then find a nice hourly warehouse job.
>>>
>>> I remember working at/under NASA GSFC. The first week, they insisted
>>> we all sign a legal contract, assigning NASA all rights to any inventions
>>> we might make. Else, you're on the street in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, ... seconds.
>>> What's it gonna be boy|girl? Yes or No? I can wait ten seconds. Sign!
>>
>> Yup, but that is expected. when it gets bad is when patents are applied
>> for and the people who invented it aren't on it, just the bosses.
>
> It's fucking crazy, even to ask that contract of anyone else! Yet so it is.

Not quite crazy but ignores basic sense. It's like trying to cheat a 
consultant by offering a lower hourly wage. Hey, dude we record our own 
hours, get it? Point is that while I have lots of ideas and if the 
bosses like them for a dollar each, fine with me. Just keep the salary 
coming. However, if I happen to have that billion dollar idea, do you 
suppose it's going to come out while I"m still working there? Duh!

> Microsoft acquired WhatsApp, Skype, linkedin, ... and pretends it invented
> all these sub-services. Google, now rebranded Alphabet, does the same with
> all its owned acquisitions/mergers.  Dog eats other dogs' meatWorld...

Yup. They should all be fixing the crap SW they have right now. God, 
Windoze 10 is driving me nuts. They keep breaking things that used to 
work and the stuff that still does work they move all over the place so 
you can't find it. Standards are great. Everybody needs their own.

>>> I prefer the word diatribe, not whine. I'm just highlighting a fact.
>>> It's inhumane to work people like machines. I was really glad when I
>>> was let go and found a job that paid the same and I had to do near
>>> nothing. I could watch and advise. But no computer access was granted
>>> to me while waiting for the GMICKs to complete their background
>>> security clearance checks of me. They did actually interview my
>>> neighbours, who I hardly knew. Or they I. What could they say? His
>>> name is Mahipal, did not know that. He does work on his yard a lot.
>>
>> So did uou get it? It's important because of your previous complaint
>> about needing current clearance. If you had it before it's a snap to get
>> it again ...IF they want you.
>
> Nope, that was for the one USVISIT (== United States Visitor and Immigrant
> Status Indicator Technology) job. Have never sought a job that requires
> a security clearance since. Once bit, twice I'd have to be nuts!

Too bad.

> <trim>
>
>>>>>> yes hvac does but here he started off on a good foot.
>>>>>
>>>>> No HVAC did not. His opening word in the title of this thread is Kooks.
>>>>> Some of us have to read it, for he mentions a few specific names daily.
>>>>
>>>> What is amazing about propaganda is the gullibility of civilians. HVAC
>>>> has lied and fabricated all manner of fantasies but the lurkers just
>>>> soak it all in and then next thing you know they are repeating it as
>>>> truth, even if you pointedly asked them if they thought HVAC was telling
>>>> the truth, and they'd say "no". They just forget where they herd that
>>>> HVAC was so wonderful and everyone else was so kooky.
>>>
>>> Hey BenjJi, you're going to have to be way more coherent than that if
>>> you're hoping to outperform a random phrase generator! He he...
>>
>> Well, KCIR is pretty stiff competition!
>
> I have never ever even opened to read KCIR. Maybe once by clicking accident.

Nine, nine, nine, nine...

>>>>> You are new here Ed. This NG has a much longer history. With many regulars.
>>>>> I never tell anyone who to read or who not to read. Their freedom/choice.
>>>>
>>>> Telling people what to read and what to believe is the job of our
>>>> moderator, HVAC. He's really good at that.
>>>
>>> Sometimes I tell my kids to listen to certain songs. They often do.
>>> I never tell them what not to listen to, well not directly. Also,
>>> modern kids listen to music via private headphones. Not like the good
>>> old days, when we'd blast the music on maximum volume of loud speakers.
>>
>> Ah, the good old days! Hey, I remember BEFORE there was loud music from
>> small groups. Hell! I was THERE when Moon Dog invented rock and roll.
>> About now is when Chimp and other uninformed Luddites start screaming
>> that I'm producing babbling gibberish. YOU, of course know better and of
>> what I speak.
>
> Cool, Moondog! Very interesting. He is new to me, I have to admit.
> Moondog, a blind man making music! Amazing. Will make time to listen.
> Still, not as challenging as Beethoven composing music while deaf. No?

Wrong Moondog! Do google Search Moondog Freed for truth. And yes I was 
there when rock and roll ws invented.

>>>>>> He and benj should just both back off for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure they should. How can BenjJi back-off when HVAC mentions him in just
>>>>> about every subject line HVAC initiates? Know the Victim from the Stalker.
>>>>
>>>> Civilians! War games are just games, not war. Dig?
>>>
>>> Them WarMongers work for us Civilians! O wait... was I duped, AGAIN?! USA!
>>
>> Yup.
>
> <trim>
>
>>>> Not like you'll find anyone to discuss physics/math in this group either
>>>> except perhaps by accident.
>>>
>>> That's too frightening! But I gather your gist, BenjJi. Physics is a
>>> niche market, small audience. Pop TV physics is just CGI. Atoms, gas
>>> clouds, strings, explosions, lots of KaBooms, wildAssClaims, spinning
>>> black holes, floating clouds of random inapplicable equations...
>>> overblown hype of persistently worshipping of ...youKnow, The OneStone.
>>>
>>> I still watch. Much like gas, Time's gotta pass. S(y)ndrome.
>>> This leads to me m(y) latest new theory: Time Is Gaseous (TM, SM, and BMW).
>>
>> Time is GAs theory? Wow! That's right on the money! Sounds like maybe
>> one or two Nobels! I how the Eddinton wing asks you for a lecture!
>
> I'm going to take that as a compliment, since Time Is Gaseous! It is written.
> I'm trying envision what kind of CGI might capture that idea. Life is to laugh.
>
>>> Example of wildAssClaims: It's amazing how well we know what happened
>>> 3 seconds after the Big Bang! It's so exciting, I can't contain myself!
>>> Yet I have no fashion sense and can't ever find matching socks to wear.
>>>
>>> Used to be a time, most authors had *.edu email addresses. The good old days.
>>> Nobody expects a dissertation detail to be discussed here. Most physcists
>>> are too paranoid to do that anyway, worried Mahipal will steal their formulas.
>>
>> Yep, and of course they have experience that they will.
>>
>>>>> I did make friends with a Math Professor in Jersey City, at a tavern.
>>>>> He'd buy me drinks, I'd buy him drinks the next time. Rarely, I mean
>>>>> rarely, did we discuss Math. What, am I supposed to sign up for his
>>>>> classes to discuss Math with him?! Overall, a very nice guy.
>>>>
>>>> Hey want to discuss math? I want to prove NP=P. Working on the TSP to
>>>> show NP complete = P. Hey grasshopper, you are a SW dude. So give me
>>>> some insight. Last time I brought this up here all I got was hiss in the
>>>> band. I was sure Rolf at least would have a comment or HVAC show us how
>>>> he wrote that math textbook he says he "coauthored". Place filled with
>>>> nothing but phonies. Million bucks waiting for the NP=P solution. No
>>>> need for unemployment checks then.
>>>
>>> Nondeterministic polynomial (NP) time versus polynomial time (P)...
>>> That NP=P kind of math problem is above my skill level. I think it was
>>> discussed a lot in my CFD class. I shrugged it off as ...interesting.
>>
>> Oh maple looperji! You are so self-defeating. Grasshopper, remember that
>> quote from "the art of war" where all battles are won in the minds of
>> the combatants before the battle ever starts. Now retract that "above my
>> skill level" nonsense. Fermat could just about solve his in the margin
>> of his book. All it ever takes is one good idea. training and other crap
>> make center the mind but it doesn't give the answer. YOu need ESP for that.
>
> Well there are arguments for my self-inflicted self-defeating thoughts/attitude.
> Accept your limits, and they become yours. Something like that.
> A simple Google search quickly found the exact quote...
>
> “Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours.”
> -- Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah. Richard Bach.

Ah, Grasshopper has searched and found some wisdom! But to act is better 
than to just know.

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#631067

On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 8:43:12 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 4/26/2017 7:56 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 9:08:20 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> >> On 4/25/2017 8:13 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 8:28:14 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> >>>> On 4/24/2017 7:15 PM, Mahipal wrote:

<trim>

> >>> I love QM/QED/QCD. I have never earned money off of said knowledge. Rusty now.
> >>> Stuff like: The probability of an electron being really anywhere is finite.
> >>> Dr. JAW: All the electrons in the Universe is just one electron. Moving very fast!
> >>
> >> It was Professor Mills who got me convinced that QM is the science of
> >> ignorance (my expression) Basically nothing is known and the best you
> >> can do is calculate some probabilities. No wonder it drove Einstein
> >> nuts! But everyone pretends like everything is known.
> >
> > Well QM is due to Planck, not the OneStone. E=hf. Isn't it a historical
> > fact that the probability math of QM was developed after Einstein had died?
> 
> Schrödinger developed the equation by locking himself in a remote cabin 
> in 1925. Einstein died in April 1955. YOu lose. Bet HVAC knew this. He 
> knows almost all science.

While Erwin was with his mistress. He's got a wife back at home and a hot pussy
cat at the lodge? Hmmm... She must've been hot?! Yet Erwin's thinking equations?

HVAC does know everything, save he just doesn't know how to express himself.
My theory is that HVAC's mouth is always too full to actually say anything. QED.

> > I could be mistaken, but per Wikipedia: Quantum probability was developed
> > in the 1980s as a noncommutative analog of the Kolmogorovian theory of
> > stochastic processes.
> 
> That's just jargon for math fantasy, namely noncommutative probability 
> space, which is obviously one of those fantasy ghost things that HVAC 
> believes in. Simple fact is that solutions to the complex Schroedinger 
> wave equation times their complex conjugate is probability density and 
> always has been since 1925. You don't really care, do you?

Well I do care, but I do/did have a life. Mouths to feed. Tennis to play. 
Golf to afford. Sure I studied Schrödinger and P.A.M. Dirac. Ito Integrals.
Physicists sure do love to throw eachothers' names around. Talk about one's 
self-infatuation! Small niche. I DanSingh got music to listen to too...

<trim>

> > HansonJi is a little bit less interactive these days.
> 
> Just do. His Jew antenna should have perked up at the posting of you 
> story though.

You'd think!

<trim>

> > My computer screen is like 50+ inches HDTV, makes reading very easy for me.
> > The only thing special about real paper books is the need for reading glasses.
> > Afterall, we all, want for the message, not the medium it's transmitted by.
> 
> Can't curl up to a computer screen, and anyway thoe evil gummint 
> computer rays cause eye strain and cloud men's minds. Although the pure 
> white reflective tablets like say Kindle solve the rays problem but I 
> still don't like them.

Paper books do have the advantage that they're still operational when
the internet is down due to weather/maintenance or past due bill payments. 

> > I download ShakeHisSpeare's works from the digital internet/WWW to read them.
> > I doubt the greatest works of literature were published just last year.
> 
> And the way you know this is? Been taking science lessons from HVAC? 
> Superpowers like his, I presume. Hey have you forgotten *I* wrote a book 
> last year? And in MODERN English too!

Now now BenjJi... present company excluded. But you know what I mean. Think
of it in terms of music, where's the cool deep heartfelt music of 2017?

<trim>

> >>> I remember working at/under NASA GSFC. The first week, they insisted
> >>> we all sign a legal contract, assigning NASA all rights to any inventions
> >>> we might make. Else, you're on the street in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, ... seconds.
> >>> What's it gonna be boy|girl? Yes or No? I can wait ten seconds. Sign!
> >>
> >> Yup, but that is expected. when it gets bad is when patents are applied
> >> for and the people who invented it aren't on it, just the bosses.
> >
> > It's fucking crazy, even to ask that contract of anyone else! Yet so it is.
> 
> Not quite crazy but ignores basic sense. It's like trying to cheat a 
> consultant by offering a lower hourly wage. Hey, dude we record our own 
> hours, get it? Point is that while I have lots of ideas and if the 
> bosses like them for a dollar each, fine with me. Just keep the salary 
> coming. However, if I happen to have that billion dollar idea, do you 
> suppose it's going to come out while I"m still working there? Duh!

Got it. Faked timesheets approved by accountants for profit. GMICK!

Actually, some of the contracts I did read, stated that what you invent 
even after work hours was their property too. One had/has to quit the job.

> > Microsoft acquired WhatsApp, Skype, linkedin, ... and pretends it invented
> > all these sub-services. Google, now rebranded Alphabet, does the same with
> > all its owned acquisitions/mergers.  Dog eats other dogs' meatWorld...
> 
> Yup. They should all be fixing the crap SW they have right now. God, 
> Windoze 10 is driving me nuts. They keep breaking things that used to 
> work and the stuff that still does work they move all over the place so 
> you can't find it. Standards are great. Everybody needs their own.

My DadJi switched over to a MacBook, a few years ago. He never complains. 
Anymore. He's thinking of upgrading to a newest/latest MacBook. 
Btw... SW wise, even Apple's quality is getting bad. I know.

I know, I make/build iPhone/iPad apps. I also know Macs/Linux/Unix/Windoze.
Worked on NeXT, and for sometime CRAY CPUs. Now, I'm just too old/stupid for jobs.

<trim>

> >> So did uou get it? It's important because of your previous complaint
> >> about needing current clearance. If you had it before it's a snap to get
> >> it again ...IF they want you.
> >
> > Nope, that was for the one USVISIT (== United States Visitor and Immigrant
> > Status Indicator Technology) job. Have never sought a job that requires
> > a security clearance since. Once bit, twice I'd have to be nuts!
> 
> Too bad.

Not really. Not practically. I made about the same amount of money, even more. 

Nobody questioned my access to any documents or HW/SW. Nobody looking
at the colour codes on my ID card. Very comfortable environment, in
contrast to the silly security clearance ones. This ROOM, not for you!

<trim>

> >> Ah, the good old days! Hey, I remember BEFORE there was loud music from
> >> small groups. Hell! I was THERE when Moon Dog invented rock and roll.
> >> About now is when Chimp and other uninformed Luddites start screaming
> >> that I'm producing babbling gibberish. YOU, of course know better and of
> >> what I speak.
> >
> > Cool, Moondog! Very interesting. He is new to me, I have to admit.
> > Moondog, a blind man making music! Amazing. Will make time to listen.
> > Still, not as challenging as Beethoven composing music while deaf. No?
> 
> Wrong Moondog! Do google Search Moondog Freed for truth. And yes I was 
> there when rock and roll ws invented.

I like the blind Moondog I ended up finding, better! Nice praise songs
of him written/performed by many others too. I heard a couple.

From the WWW: Disk Jockey Moondog Freed is commonly referred to as the
"father of rock 'n' roll" due to his promotion of the style of music,
and his introduction of the phrase "rock and roll", in reference to
the musical genre, on mainstream radio in the early 1950s.

I always thought the father of rock 'n' roll was Chuck Berry. Duped I, AGAIN?!
Johnny B. Goode - Back to the Future. All a fiction? This is getting weird.

<trim>

> > “Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours.”
> > -- Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah. Richard Bach.
> 
> Ah, Grasshopper has searched and found some wisdom! But to act is better 
> than to just know.

Hey, I used to read Richard Bach's books back in high school, not for school.
I do need to be as self-assertive as I used to be then. Friends tell me so.

My friend Keith, a Preacher's son, I was Starsky He was Hutch, told me
to read Bach. Keith has long died. Died young, while fishing. I miss him. 

https://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/reinforcement.pdf
2012/09 is just a wordpress date, I wrote it long before I shared it.
I used to attend poetry readings. Lots of people liked my works. Others were
like, we need to get rid of Mahipal, he's just too good, makes us look bad.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#631233

Loopy says
My friend Keith, a Preacher's son, I was Starsky He was Hutch, told me 
to read Bach. Keith has long died. Died young, while fishing. I miss him. 
---------------

Glad to see this true physics discussion here. BTW god must have really hated him to kill him while fishing. What a douche

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#631235

On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 8:01:51 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> Loopy says
> My friend Keith, a Preacher's son, I was Starsky He was Hutch, told me 
> to read Bach. Keith has long died. Died young, while fishing. I miss him. 
> ---------------
> 
> Glad to see this true physics discussion here. BTW god must have
> really hated him to kill him while fishing. What a douche

So what, hypocriteHVAC?! Physicists can have real human life discussions too.

That's one way to look at it. Another way would be that God so loved
Keith that God called him into heaven asap. Screw Keith's friends/family!

The old classic refrain as Billy Joel sings: Only The Good Die Young?!

Remember the TV show Starsky&Hutch? Keith had that red car too. Gran Torino.
You have heard of TVs?! Well on TV they have these shows called pilots...

Btw, that's my Vince/Vincent (long haired mature John Travolta) impersonation
of him in Pulp Fiction (1994), And a very good year (1994) it was...

Moral? Glad you asked! While Bruce Willis is great and fantastic, NFAR
that Bruce WillisJi is no John TravoltaJi. You should be DanSingh.... SNF...

Not that you'll answer, have you HVAC read anything by Richard Bach? 

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल ... "My Pal" or "Maple"... as in Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. 
                          /\  "If the line between science fiction and 
                            /   science fact doesn't drive you crazy, 
 /\                         \   then you're just not tr(y)ing!" 
 \           /\/\  /  \   \/                    Mahipal Virdy 
 /   ==    \  /  \/\/                         The |meforce> Paradox 
 \/                            http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/ 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seenchi/id1107393483?mt=8

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#630455

On 4/24/2017 8:32 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 4:58:24 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
>> BJ quacked
>> show quoted text -
>>> OH look MyPal! We've got a science cut and past from HVAC!
>>> I guess this proves he knows his stuff! Got school, HVAC?
>> -------------
>
> I noticed it was a cut and paste, I refused to read it.
>
>> "Got school, HVAC?"
>>
>> Can't you ever come up with anything original?
>
> Says the plagiarist, resident cut and paster, HVAC. Know Irony?
>
>> And the reason I posted that article is because etherheads like you
>> have no way to explain it using your foolish and antiqued beliefs in
>> 'ether'.
>
> So? Scientists routinely study failed theories. Heard of SR? TBBT? Duh!
>
>> Instead, you can suck on it and watch as real science moves ahead
>> without you.
>
> Where has real science moved to, HVAC? Got Zip Code? Btw, Got College?
> Got any diploma hanging in your house? No. Go steal one from a neighbour.
>
>> To pass the time you can give the number I'm thinking of between
>> 1-100 using your esp
>
> BenjJi never claimed he had lowercase esp. Never. False Flag by Fag!
>
> I know lots of people with tennis racquets but can't play tennis at all.

I do own several tennis racquets but really can't play. I'll be HVAC 
even at his age with catheters and all can beat my ass at tennis. I have 
never claimed ESP and have stated over and over (which HVAC chooses to 
pretend never happened) that I"ve never seen a ghost, ghost phenomena 
nor been slimed. In his ward what your voices say in your head is what 
you know is true.

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#630448

On 4/24/2017 4:58 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> show quoted text -
> OH look MyPal! We've got a science cut and past from HVAC!
> I guess this proves he knows his stuff! Got school, HVAC?
> -------------
>
> "Got school, HVAC?"
>
> Can't you ever come up with anything original?
>
> And the reason I posted that article is because etherheads like you have no way to explain it using your foolish and antiqued beliefs in 'ether'.
>
> Instead, you can suck on it and watch as real science moves ahead without you.
>
> To pass the time you can give the number I'm thinking of between 1-100 using your esp
>
Oh look, Muffy! HVAC thinks he's smarter than Einstein because he's 
smart enough to cut and past some article. Einstein pointed out that 
space has properties so thus there is an aether. But HVAC and Odd are so 
"educated" and "smart" they think Einstein is a kook but they know 
"real" science. Sure, guys, sure. As usual, HVAC you got nothing but 
lies and bluster.

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