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China First and Last Always

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  China  First and Last Always "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 12:30 -0700
    Re: China  First and Last Always Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-08-16 12:45 -0700
    Re: China  First and Last Always jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-08-16 19:43 +0000
    Re: China  First and Last Always "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-08-16 13:09 -0700
    Re: China  First and Last Always jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-08-16 20:09 +0000
    Re: China First and Last Always Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-16 17:44 -0500
      Re: China First and Last Always benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-16 19:07 -0400
        Re: China First and Last Always Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-16 20:00 -0500

#593406 — China First and Last Always

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-16 12:30 -0700
SubjectChina First and Last Always
Message-ID<950aab6c-d6ff-469c-ae6a-4a8ab7e87d04@googlegroups.com>
They claim Africa,put its in reality China that gave birth to class I humankind. They spear headed great engineering.Cooked great food.They gave stone age maN fIRE,AND HOW TO kill WITH EXPLOSIVES.Then they decided to just stay in China. Marco Polo visited China and came back with paper money and speghetti.Great spices,and china wear. Now China is big in space,and much to honest and clever to build Miky Mouse shuttles no GOP Mafia in China.  Thus they have 250,000 in there space program.  They are a safe bet to create a base on the moon. To sum it up China was and still is first class. USA thanks to GOPers in now has been.Think #1 Bush #2 Nixon #3 Annenberg #4Kissenger etc  We call Chinese commies,as we own all they manufacture right down to our underware.  TreBert

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#593408

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-08-16 12:45 -0700
Message-ID<0f90ef7d-26a2-441c-97ee-2efb5ef48076@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593406
On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 12:30:07 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> They claim Africa,put its in reality China that gave birth to class I humankind. They spear headed great engineering.Cooked great food.They gave stone age maN fIRE,AND HOW TO kill WITH EXPLOSIVES.Then they decided to just stay in China. Marco Polo visited China and came back with paper money and speghetti.


Both bad things!


> Great spices,and china wear.


Which breaks!


> Now China is big in space,and much to honest and clever to build Miky Mouse shuttles no GOP Mafia in China.  Thus they have 250,000 in there space program.


That's all?


> They are a safe bet to create a base on the moon. To sum it up China was and still is first class. USA thanks to GOPers in now has been.Think #1 Bush #2 Nixon #3 Annenberg #4Kissenger etc  We call Chinese commies,as we own all they manufacture right down to our underware.  TreBert


Yeah, they do all the manufacturing, and we supply raw materials.  Doesn't that make us a third world nation?

Double-A

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#593409

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-08-16 19:43 +0000
Message-ID<s07c8d-0k5.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#593406
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> We call Chinese commies,as we own all they manufacture right down to
> our underware.  TreBert

Yep, thanks to cheap Chinese slave labor.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#593417

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-08-16 13:09 -0700
Message-ID<novrur$bh0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593406
 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> "reber g=emc^2" Glazier 
> the Full Swine is one of the "commies right down to Berts
>  underware.... as can be seen when  TreBert ....
>
... <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> the  sanctimonious 
Full-Swine Glazier often posts: 
"god and religion is hocus pocus" and now that 
Glazier is doing his final twitching he trembles and prays:
"Open Mind of God.  Best to go with God, and be nice"
>
hanson wrote:
But Glazier you Swine, it is YOU  that is NOT nice, and things
have not gotten any better because YOU came back after you
wrote:
>
Full Swine & Cretin Glazier wrote:
> "Why am I not loved by all?"
> "I might leave if things do not get better"..because...
>
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Glazier whose G=EMC^2 is
short for "Glazier Exhibits Micro Cephalic Cretinism", (Zika
& or by his genetic ashkeNazi marker) defines Bert, reber
Trebert, or Treb as the loud mouth, the misogynic Peeping
Tom (lifts & looks under the shirts of girls) the Jewish Jailbird,
the Liar, Hatemonger, schizoid mental cripple, Pervert Face-
Shitter, criminal Graveyard vandal, Bigot, Racist, War-monger
& Communist :B::ert Glazier who introduces himself with/as....
>
:B:: "I am a proud Jew with a Superiority complex &
:B:: an IQ of 122", & "I do know how everything works,.."
:B:: "My Grandfathers had tails". -- Trebert
:B:: "Being Jewish I know this is so very true" -- Bert.
:B:: "I'm a non-bible(torra) Jew. I'm the only Jew that
:B:: got 2 form letters from two Popes". Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
:B:: "I'll be sitting on Benj's, Saul Levi's & HVAC's face
:B:: to take a shit & say: "Open your mouth wide".
:B:: "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And laugh".
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "I'm M&M's Clueless Fuck-faced turd".Bert.
:B:: I'm "Siegman Fraud", "Bert, the Bowel Movement".
:B:: "I gave G=EMC^2 (wrong & stolen) to the world"
:B:: "Israel will drop its first H-bomb 'David' ". TreBert
:B:: __"I'm glad when war breaks out"__ Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
:B:: "Even the FBI has me as a trouble maker and
:B:: the FBI blocks my phone from calling them. "....
:B:: cuz "I was mixing sulfur, carbon & iron together
:B:: to make gun powder" ... & "while I was in custody
:B:: of Osceola Sheriff Bob Hansel, for thieving, his
:B:: deputies beat the shit out of me. So I bought a
:B:: 357 magnum for death threats by Sheriff Bob.
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
about which ....
Glazier's ex-tutor Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
"Glazier, do not post in a science newsgroup."
"Glazier, quit posting __ your Gutter Science__."
"Glazier, exit USENET. -- IOW Glazier, beat it!."
>
"Glazier, your science is far worse than the man's on the street."
"Glazier, your postings are old man's garbage."
"Glazier, your brain is entangled with a used garbage can."
>
"reber, take your 'you know it all thinking' to your grave" .
"reber, your horseshit gets old. Say hi to Allah for me.:
"reber, you don't believe in science."
>
Moderator General "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
"Harlow Campbell" succinctly added & wrote:
>
"Bert, your opinion doesn't count"
"a trained cockroach is smarter than Bert"
"Bert, you are a clueless cocksucker"....
"Bert you are senile, dazed & confused"
"Bert, you are Fucked in the head.
>
"Bert is a racist. (And he's stupid too)"
"TreBert, you are one stupid cocksucker".
"Bert, Seriously. You are the stupidest cocksucking
moron who ever came down the Mass Pike."
"Bert, does your stupidity know no bounds?"
>
"Bert, you really are a pathetic excuse for a human
fucking being". "Bert you are an idiot."
"Bert, are the stupidest cocksucker on the planet."
"Spin THIS, Glazier, you fucking idiot." "Bert get
some spelling lessons, you feeble-minded fuck".
>
"Bert, you should be arrested"
"Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your
van seems to be a center for drug activity in the
Wal-Mart parking lot"... .... .... about which....
 >
Aviator Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
Glazier, you are a spamming piece of shit...
Your Cocaine usage explains a lot of your posts.
You know nothing about government nor physics.
You are drunk again. Give up and kill yourself.
 >
Astrophysicist "Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote:
>
GLAZIER YOU ARE A LAMEbrain PIECE OF SHIT!
Saul Levy
>
Rocket Scientist Virdy "Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
I know, you reber are an idiot. Glazier, you are babbling
desperately. Is it sympathy or pity you're grasping for?
Stop it, either way.
 >
benj" Benjamin Franklin Jacoby <nobody@gmail.com> who
recently nymshifted to "B Gates" <nobodyxx@gmail>, wrote:
>
One only has to read Glazier's posts to see when Bert was lobotomized.
But Herb found poster "Double-A" who likes to be like Glazier,
but "Alkie-Alkie" is another kook who is as dumb as Bert is...
and promote that shitting into a bucket in a car is an achievement
that is a laudable accomplishment... and both being Communists
they demand entitlement to goods and services that were created
by hardworking people while they themselves drink, party and frolic!...
... still waiting "to be loved by all"...
>
hanson wrote:
So Glazier, given your Jewish Superiority complex and
your IQ of 122 and you knowing how how everything works,
... how come ended up shitting into a bucket in a 25 year
old Minnie Mouse van that you use as your residence
on Wal-Mart's Parking Lot? ..... .... What went wrong, Glazier?
 >
 "What are they gonna say when Swine Glazier dies? Are
they gonna say he was a kind man? He was a wise man?
He had plans? He has wisdom? .... BULLSHIT, MAN!"...
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAixFYnDh4> [D]
BULLSHIT,... because Swine Glazier DOES have plans
which Glazier, the Full-Swine, announced and posted at
the ripe age of eighty (80) when Glazier became a criminal
Graveyard Vandal who wrote:
>
(1)
On 25Mar2008 Swine Glazier wrote in:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J
Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face. -- Bert.
 >
Glazier's geriatric decay worsened, along with Glazier's chronic
alcoholism and Glazier, the Olde Kacker, became a Coprophile
IOW Glazier became a filthy Face Shitter at his age of 86, which
Glazier proudly announced & posted...
 >
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, Jew-Swine Glazier
said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>: Reality is you always
post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser.
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
Benj, you can thank me in advance. - TreBert. ... after
which...
 >
Glazier, the Criminal Graveyard Vandal & Face Shitter got even
worse over the next year and at Glazier's age of 87, Glazier
widened his piggish Face-shitting habit, as seen when Glazier
threatened...
 >
(3)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, as Swine Glazier wrote:
Harlow HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com, Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nobody@gmail.com>:
"I'll be sitting on your face to take a shit & say: "Open wide".
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
after...
>
(4)
The Criminal Swine Glazier refused to stop his practices & rejected
to be taken down, because Glazier at his age of 87+, Swine Glazier
labeled himself as "Siegman Fraud" which is synonym with "Bowel-
movement, actually saying that __ "Glazier is a piece of shit"__.
who, to boot, also announced that Glazier is a Transvestite who dons
female dresses and a Sarah Palin mask, saying that he has "nice
legs"...
 >
hanson wrote:
Now Glazier, since you are a curse and an embarrassment, day-in
and day-out, to every Jew everywhere, has it dawned on you
sorry, geriatric Transie-Swine, that as soon as you have been
"put away and under" Google will remove ALL YOUR posts from
the USENET and the only thing that will remain and show your
legacy, is because:
 >
Glazier the Swine fortunately posted:
.... "hanson made me famous"....
 >
hanson wrote
So, Glazier you Swine, you should be grateful to me & not wish
me ill like you did above, in your sick hate mongering, since
it is only because of hanson, that Web searches show for:
>
--- Swine Glazier G=EMC^2 Cretin ----            27'833 hits & rising
--- reber g=emc^2 Face-shitter & Vandal ----   27'953 hits & rising
>
which is why  the mental cripple <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>
badly needs to be administered to with
<http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy> ...
>
Now Glazier, you filthy Swine, "you will never be loved by all"
but incredibly, Glazier, you do have groupies who love you,
and haved become, voluntarily,  your personal slaves of you,
Faceshitter Glazier, who demonstrate their worship & their
devotion to their master Glazier, by lying under & literally
shit-eating Glazier's turds:
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
such as:
>
=1=
Sefton "john" <johnsefton288@gmail.com> the delusional
vegetarian loud-mouth from Canuckistan's town of Regina
is under the influence of his Lysergic- and  Solanine
contaminated diet and so Sefton lays himself with gusto
under Face-shitter Glazier's Sphincter and enjoys eating
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
and Sefton is impressed also with the Hate-mongering of
>
=2=
<clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> is Iran's Glazier.
The Freak Muslime Mehram Maleki HATES Western
culture & the USA, hates Xtians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists,
even Sunnis.  Yet Maldrecki lays himself freely UNDER
the Sphincter of Face shitter Jew Glazier who bragged
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
to have _"PFM"_= "Poop For Maleki", which the gay, Iranian
Muslime, Maldrecki, consumed until he turned black
& posted his <http://tinyurl.com/Maleki-Mehram-Selfie>
>
Then the 88 Year old Glazier announced that "Glazier is a
Transvestite who dons female dresses & a Sarah Palin mask,
saying that he has "nice legs"... which so impressed Maldrecki
that Maleki showed his devotion and solidarity by going LGBT
& had a Sex change operation, whose result she posted in
<http://tinyurl.com/Maleki-the-TG-Girl>.
>
=3=
"AA" <double-a3@hush.com>  is __Glazier's "Ass Angel"__,
aka "Abner Afterduft", the "Alcoholic  Addict" who struts with
his "AmoebA" brain, posted and yearns to be like Glazier, &
AA doubles as Anon Yidd. Mouse", <nobody@home.invalid>
who does NOT mind that Full-swine Glazier is a Face shitter
& a criminal Grave yard vandal, Glazier who never recanted
nor apologized for the overt threats Glazier made.... ....
>
...aux contraire, "Yidd Mouse", cum "AA", the Kike, comes to
the defense &  aid of Full Swine Glazier's criminality, & worse,
the Jewish Pig "Anon Yidd Mouse" cum "AA", curses folks that
point at Glazier's behavior, which makes Yidd Mouse to be an "AA"
example of the lurid "Closeness" which the eminent Jewish Scholar
Harold Wallace Rosenthal ||R:|| describes in his epic
<http://tinyurl.com/The-HW-Rosenthal-interview-XT>
wherein it says:
||R:|| We Jews have a solidarity & a closeness to
||R:|| fellow Jews like none other in the world.
||R:|| We Jews are always 'as one' when it counts.
>
||R:|| It's no secret that we Jews do not respect
||R:|| you gentiles. All of you are our enemies.
||R:|| Our Jewish beliefs are entirely different from yours.
||R:|| Our Talmud/Nedarim/Kol Nidre = "all vows" allows
||R:|| us Jews to lie, subvert and cheat you, the Goyim
>
=4=
Strangely, the Austrian Hitleryouth Halbmutt Wabnigger,
<hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> sides with Glazier too, but said:
____   "Jews are a residue of failed evolution" _______
>
=5=
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>, the "Rectal Vacuumist (Seattle) is a criminal
Child-support dead-beat who greedily sucks turds out of Glazier's
sphincter, especially when they are Methamphetamine preloaded
as seen when Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>::JR:: wrote:
::JR:: I no longer want sex anymore.  I  masturbate. I've found  that
::JR:: all these erections & masturbations can irratate my prostate.
::JR:: My problem mostly happens a few hours before I want to
::JR:: wake up, so I can't take Sudafed.
::JR:: Ejaculation is a mind-altering drug, no better than heroin
::JR:: or meth.    So I've recently vowed to not masturbate...
::JR:: I use my left hand to smoke, masturbate and to type ...
::JR:: Does that make me smart ? --  I'd rather masturbate.
::JR:: She likes to squirt meth up her rear ( it makes her cum).
::JR:: but pussy is the last thing I want.
::::::: (cuz Relf is apparently interested now, with his "mouth wide
:::::::  open", to let Swine Glazier shit into Relf's "kisser")
::JR:: My dreams, however, have been semi-erotic as of late..."
>
=6=
... and even earlier, ironically, signed up was kike "Bodaisky",
<root@localhost.localdomain> who lied and claimed to be
"Bo Dai" from China, but was in fact "Fagie Bodaisky", who
lives off the tips he gets from being a rest-room attendant in
a NY Bath house for gay Jews.
>
=7=
"Andrew Vecsey" posting as <trudi.schwander@gmail.com>
is another stinky & filthy AshkeNAZI, a twatt to boot, who enjoys
spending her time under Glazier's Sphincter like the ones above.
Like those pigs s/he does NOT mind that Jew Glazier is bragging
to be a Face shitter and a criminal Grave yard vandal, but
s/he objects and groans when that is pointed out & comes
runnning to defend and side with Full-Swine Glazier, just like
seen in =3= & <http://tinyurl.com/The-HW-Rosenthal-interview-XT>
>
=8=
The Wal-Mart Greeter "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com>
Mark L. Fergerson is another stupid & despicably filthy pig that
enjoys spending his time under Glazier's Sphincter like the 7
ones above. Like those 7 other pigs, the Wal-Mart Greeter Ferkel
does NOT mind that Jew Glazier is bragging to be a Face shitter
and a criminal Grave yard vandal, but says that Glazier's criminal
behavior, like Glazier's looking up/under the skirts of girls, is
"not abusive" & insists that "Us old-timers gotta stick together."
>
This bizarre perversion is well documented as seen here in:
<http://tinyurl.com/magnum-opus-the-rectal-jew>
<https://theendofzion.com/the-fecal-fixation-of-the-chosen-ones/>
<https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=jewish+coprophilia>



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#593419

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-08-16 20:09 +0000
Message-ID<hg8c8d-cl5.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#593406
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> They claim Africa,put its in reality China that gave birth to class I
> humankind. They spear headed great engineering.Cooked great food.They
> gave stone age maN fIRE,AND HOW TO kill WITH EXPLOSIVES.Then they
> decided to just stay in China.

Nope, they invaded Russia and Central Europe but got pushed out.

They also invaded  Persia, Turkey, the Palestine region, Korea, Japan,
Tibet, Burma and Java.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#593450 — Re: China First and Last Always

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-08-16 17:44 -0500
SubjectRe: China First and Last Always
Message-ID<np0517$1akt$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#593406
On 8/16/2016 2:30 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> They claim Africa,put its in reality China that gave birth to class I
> humankind. They spear headed great engineering.Cooked great food.They
> gave stone age maN fIRE,AND HOW TO kill WITH EXPLOSIVES.Then they
> decided to just stay in China. Marco Polo visited China and came back
> with paper money and speghetti.Great spices,and china wear. Now China
> is big in space,and much to honest and clever to build Miky Mouse
> shuttles no GOP Mafia in China.  Thus they have 250,000 in there
> space program.  They are a safe bet to create a base on the moon. To
> sum it up China was and still is first class. USA thanks to GOPers in
> now has been.Think #1 Bush #2 Nixon #3 Annenberg #4Kissenger etc  We
> call Chinese commies,as we own all they manufacture right down to our
> underware.  TreBert
>

Chairman Mao wrote the little Red Book

"Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung (Chairman Mao's Little Red Book) "

always a great read by the fireplace;



"Dialectical materialism is the world outlook of the Marxist-Leninist 
party. It is called dialectical materialism because its approach to the 
phenomena of nature, its method of studying and apprehending them, is 
dialectical,  while its interpretation of the phenomena of nature, its 
conception of these phenomena, its theory, is materialistic.

Historical materialism is the extension of the principles of dialectical 
materialism to the study of social life, an application of the 
principles of dialectical materialism to the phenomena of the life of 
society, to the study of society and of its history.

When describing their dialectical method, Marx and Engels usually refer 
to Hegel as the philosopher who formulated the main features of 
dialectics. This, however, does not mean that the dialectics of Marx and 
Engels is identical with the dialectics of Hegel. As a matter of fact, 
Marx and Engels took from the Hegelian dialectics only its "rational 
kernel," casting aside its Hegelian idealistic shell, and developed 
dialectics further so as to lend it a modern scientific form.

     "My dialectic method," says Marx, "is not only different from the 
Hegelian, but is its direct opposite. To Hegel, ... the process of 
thinking which, under the name of 'the Idea,' he even transforms into an 
independent subject, is the demiurgos (creator) of the real world, and 
the real world is only the external, phenomenal form of 'the Idea.' With 
me, on the contrary, the ideal is nothing else than the material world 
reflected by the human mind and translated into forms of thought." 
(Marx, Afterword to the Second German Edition of Volume I of Capital .)

When describing their materialism, Marx and Engels usually refer to 
Feuerbach as the philosopher who restored materialism to its rights. 
This, however, does not mean that the materialism of Marx and Engels is 
identical with Feuerbach's materialism. As a matter of fact, Marx and 
Engels took from Feuerbach's materialism its "inner kernel," developed 
it into a scientific-philosophical theory of materialism and cast aside 
its idealistic and religious-ethical encumbrances. We know that 
Feuerbach, although he was fundamentally a materialist, objected to the 
name materialism. Engels more than once declared that "in spite of" the 
materialist "foundation," Feuerbach "remained... bound by the 
traditional idealist fetters," and that "the real idealism of Feuerbach 
becomes evident as soon as we come to his philosophy of religion and 
ethics." (Marx and Engels, Vol. XIV, pp. 652-54.)

Dialectics comes from the Greek dialego,  to discourse, to debate. In 
ancient times dialectics was the art of arriving at the truth by 
disclosing the contradictions in the argument of an opponent and 
overcoming these contradictions. There were philosophers in ancient 
times who believed that the disclosure of contradictions in thought and 
the clash of opposite opinions was the best method of arriving at the 
truth. This dialectical method of thought, later extended to the 
phenomena of nature, developed into the dialectical method of 
apprehending nature, which regards the phenomena of nature as being in 
constant movement and undergoing constant change, and the development of 
nature as the result of the development of the contradictions in nature, 
as the result of the interaction of opposed forces in nature.

In its essence, dialectics is the direct opposite of metaphysics.

1) The principal features of the Marxist dialectical method  are as follows:

a) Contrary to metaphysics, dialectics does not regard nature as an 
accidental agglomeration of things, of phenomena, unconnected with, 
isolated from, and independent of, each other, but as a connected and 
integral whole, in which things, phenomena are organically connected 
with, dependent on, and determined by, each other.

The dialectical method therefore holds that no phenomenon in nature can 
be understood if taken by itself, isolated from surrounding phenomena, 
inasmuch as any phenomenon in any realm of nature may become meaningless 
to us if it is not considered in connection with the surrounding 
conditions, but divorced from them; and that, vice versa, any phenomenon 
can be understood and explained if considered in its inseparable 
connection with surrounding phenomena, as one conditioned by surrounding 
phenomena.

b)  Contrary to metaphysics, dialectics holds that nature is not a state 
of rest and immobility, stagnation and immutability, but a state of 
continuous movement and change, of continuous renewal and development, 
where something is always arising and developing, and something always 
disintegrating and dying away.

The dialectical method therefore requires that phenomena should be 
considered not only from the standpoint of their interconnection and 
interdependence, but also from the standpoint of their movement, their 
change, their development, their coming into being and going out of being.

The dialectical method regards as important primarily not that which at 
the given moment seems to be durable and yet is already beginning to die 
away, but that which is arising and developing, even though at the given 
moment it may appear to be not durable, for the dialectical method 
considers invincible only that which is arising and developing.

     "All nature," says Engels, "from the smallest thing to the biggest. 
from grains of sand to suns, from protista (the primary living cells - 
J. St.) to man, has its existence in eternal coming into being and going 
out of being, in a ceaseless flux, in unresting motion and change 
(Ibid.,  p. 48.)

Therefore, dialectics, Engels says, "takes things and their perceptual 
images essentially in their interconnection, in their concatenation, in 
their movement, in their rise and disappearance." (Marx and Engels, Vol. 
XIV,' p. 23.)

c)  Contrary to metaphysics, dialectics does not regard the process of 
development as a simple process of growth, where quantitative changes do 
not lead to qualitative changes, but as a development which passes from 
insignificant and imperceptible quantitative changes to open' 
fundamental changes' to qualitative changes; a development in which the 
qualitative changes occur not gradually, but rapidly and abruptly, 
taking the form of a leap from one state to another; they occur not 
accidentally but as the natural result of an accumulation of 
imperceptible and gradual quantitative changes.

The dialectical method therefore holds that the process of development 
should be understood not as movement in a circle, not as a simple 
repetition of what has already occurred, but as an onward and upward 
movement, as a transition from an old qualitative state to a new 
qualitative state, as a development from the simple to the complex, from 
the lower to the higher:

     "Nature," says Engels, "is the test of dialectics. and it must be 
said for modern natural science that it has furnished extremely rich and 
daily increasing materials for this test, and has thus proved that in 
the last analysis nature's process is dialectical and not metaphysical, 
that it does not move in an eternally uniform and constantly repeated 
circle. but passes through a real history. Here prime mention should be 
made of Darwin, who dealt a severe blow to the metaphysical conception 
of nature by proving that the organic world of today, plants and 
animals, and consequently man too, is all a product of a process of 
development that has been in progress for millions of years." (Ibid., 
p. 2.)

Describing dialectical development as a transition from quantitative 
changes to qualitative changes, Engels says:

     "In physics ... every change is a passing of quantity into quality, 
as a result of a quantitative change of some form of movement either 
inherent in a body or imparted to it. For example, the temperature of 
water has at first no effect on its liquid state; but as the temperature 
of liquid water rises or falls, a moment arrives when this state of 
cohesion changes and the water is converted in one case into steam and 
in the other into ice.... A definite minimum current is required to make 
a platinum wire glow; every metal has its melting temperature; every 
liquid has a definite freezing point and boiling point at a given 
pressure, as far as we are able with the means at our disposal to attain 
the required temperatures; finally, every gas has its critical point at 
which, by proper pressure and cooling, it can be converted into a liquid 
state.... What are known as the constants of physics (the point at which 
one state passes into another - J. St.) are in most cases nothing but 
designations for the nodal points at which a quantitative (change) 
increase or decrease of movement causes a qualitative change in the 
state of the given body, and at which, consequently, quantity is 
transformed into quality." (Ibid.,  pp. 527-28.)

Passing to chemistry, Engels continues:

     "Chemistry may be called the science of the qualitative changes 
which take place in bodies as the effect of changes of quantitative 
composition. his was already known to Hegel.... Take oxygen: if the 
molecule contains three atoms instead of the customary two, we get 
ozone, a body definitely distinct in odor and reaction from ordinary 
oxygen. And what shall we say of the different proportions in which 
oxygen combines with nitrogen or sulphur, and each of which produces a 
body qualitatively different from all other bodies !" (Ibid.,  p. 528.)

Finally, criticizing Dühring, who scolded Hegel for all he was worth, 
but surreptitiously borrowed from him the well-known thesis that the 
transition from the insentient world to the sentient world, from the 
kingdom of inorganic matter to the kingdom of organic life, is a leap to 
a new state, Engels says:

     "This is precisely the Hegelian nodal line of measure relations in 
which at certain definite nodal points, the purely quantitative increase 
or decrease gives rise to a qualitative leap, for example, in the case 
of water which is heated or cooled, where boiling point and freezing 
point are the nodes at which - under normal pressure - the leap to a new 
aggregate state takes place, and where consequently quantity is 
transformed into quality." (Ibid.,  pp. 45-46.)

d) Contrary to metaphysics, dialectics holds that internal 
contradictions are inherent in all things and phenomena of nature, for 
they all have their negative and positive sides, a past and a future, 
something dying away and something developing; and that the struggle 
between these opposites, the struggle between the old and the new, 
between that which is dying away and that which is being born, between 
that which is disappearing and that which is developing, constitutes the 
internal content of the process of development, the internal content of 
the transformation of quantitative changes into qualitative changes.

The dialectical method therefore holds that the process of development 
from the lower to the higher takes place not as a harmonious unfolding 
of phenomena, but as a disclosure of the contradictions inherent in 
things and phenomena, as a "struggle" of opposite tendencies which 
operate on the basis of these contradictions.

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#593459 — Re: China First and Last Always

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-08-16 19:07 -0400
SubjectRe: China First and Last Always
Message-ID<57b39cae$0$40867$b1db1813$15bdbe48@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#593450
On 8/16/2016 6:44 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 8/16/2016 2:30 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> They claim Africa,put its in reality China that gave birth to class I
>> humankind. They spear headed great engineering.Cooked great food.They
>> gave stone age maN fIRE,AND HOW TO kill WITH EXPLOSIVES.Then they
>> decided to just stay in China. Marco Polo visited China and came back
>> with paper money and speghetti.Great spices,and china wear. Now China
>> is big in space,and much to honest and clever to build Miky Mouse
>> shuttles no GOP Mafia in China.  Thus they have 250,000 in there
>> space program.  They are a safe bet to create a base on the moon. To
>> sum it up China was and still is first class. USA thanks to GOPers in
>> now has been.Think #1 Bush #2 Nixon #3 Annenberg #4Kissenger etc  We
>> call Chinese commies,as we own all they manufacture right down to our
>> underware.  TreBert
>>
>
> Chairman Mao wrote the little Red Book
>
> "Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung (Chairman Mao's Little Red Book) "
>
> always a great read by the fireplace;

Sergio, it's an even BETTER read if you pitch it INTO the fireplace.

Do we need to recall the great communist experiment and the utopia it 
created in the USSR, China and other hell-hole places? Gave rise to 
great idea like the cultural revolution! An idea that worked out so 
great that the guy who was in charge of it had his own father starve to 
death from it.

But have no fear America. Reber and Hillary think that communism still 
can work in spite of all the evidence to the contrary if only DEMOCRATS 
get put in charge of the cultural revolution in America. Utopia is just 
a few months away. Better start learning the words to the Internationale 
now.

Here let me help get you stated before Hillary is elected:

So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.

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#593476 — Re: China First and Last Always

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-08-16 20:00 -0500
SubjectRe: China First and Last Always
Message-ID<np0cvv$1iib$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#593459
On 8/16/2016 6:07 PM, benj wrote:
> On 8/16/2016 6:44 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 8/16/2016 2:30 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>
>>
>> Chairman Mao wrote the little Red Book
>>
>> "Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung (Chairman Mao's Little Red Book) "
>>
>> always a great read by the fireplace;
>
> Sergio, it's an even BETTER read if you pitch it INTO the fireplace.
>

>
> But have no fear America. Reber and Hillary think that communism still
> can work in spite of all the evidence to the contrary if only DEMOCRATS
> get put in charge of the cultural revolution in America. Utopia is just
> a few months away. Better start learning the words to the Internationale
> now.
>
> Here let me help get you stated before Hillary is elected:
>
> So comrades, come rally
> And the last fight let us face
> The Internationale unites the human race.

  Bernie Sanders, remember him?, he is a down and out Little Red Book 
reader,

Sad how Obama and the democrats have been following the leftist EU on 
most everything, IGNORING the american people

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