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| Started by | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2019-02-13 17:45 -0800 |
| Last post | 2019-02-13 22:27 -0800 |
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How is there energy conservation? Where Light Changes? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 17:45 -0800
Re: How is there energy conservation? Where Light Changes? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-14 13:44 +1100
Re: How is there energy conservation? Where Light Changes? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 19:49 -0700
Re: How is there energy conservation? Where Light Changes? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 18:53 -0800
Re: How is there energy conservation? Where Light Changes? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-14 13:56 +1100
Re: How is there energy conservation? Where Light Changes? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 19:22 -0800
Re: How is there energy conservation? Where Light Changes? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-14 16:06 +1100
Re: How is there energy conservation? Where Light Changes? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 22:27 -0800
| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-02-13 17:45 -0800 |
| Subject | How is there energy conservation? Where Light Changes? |
| Message-ID | <83a0caf6-0b9b-4805-b2e1-07ddaa7115f9@googlegroups.com> |
Blue shift with Red shift for Averaging light's energy... Its conservation is ruled out. Science's first principle is the first to graduate... to take a correction. It averages instead... but that is far from the equivalent to sameness of quantity energy mathematically. God creates gravity. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-14 13:44 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <gck315F36anU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #727205 |
On 14/02/2019 12:45 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > Blue shift with Red shift for Averaging light's energy... > > Its conservation is ruled out. Science's first principle > is the first to graduate... to take a correction. It averages > instead... but that is far from the equivalent to sameness > of quantity energy mathematically. You think that red and blue shifts imply that energy is not conserved? Why would you think that? Sylvia.
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-13 19:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bvvagr.sjm.19.8@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #727223 |
On 2019-02-13 7:44 p.m., Sylvia Else wrote: > On 14/02/2019 12:45 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: >> Blue shift with Red shift for Averaging light's energy... >> >> Its conservation is ruled out. Science's first principle >> is the first to graduate... to take a correction. It averages >> instead... but that is far from the equivalent to sameness >> of quantity energy mathematically. > > You think that red and blue shifts imply that energy is not conserved? > Why would you think that? > > Sylvia. freedom to think anything you please i bet
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-02-13 18:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e85d1871-097b-4382-848c-6ab91527613c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727223 |
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:44:57 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 14/02/2019 12:45 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > > Blue shift with Red shift for Averaging light's energy... > > > > Its conservation is ruled out. Science's first principle > > is the first to graduate... to take a correction. It averages > > instead... but that is far from the equivalent to sameness > > of quantity energy mathematically. > > You think that red and blue shifts imply that energy is not conserved? > Why would you think that? > > Sylvia. Sylvia? averages are not equals... just as statistics are almost accurate... God creates gravity. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-14 13:56 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <gck3mcF3aqjU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #727229 |
On 14/02/2019 1:53 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:44:57 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 14/02/2019 12:45 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: >>> Blue shift with Red shift for Averaging light's energy... >>> >>> Its conservation is ruled out. Science's first principle >>> is the first to graduate... to take a correction. It averages >>> instead... but that is far from the equivalent to sameness >>> of quantity energy mathematically. >> >> You think that red and blue shifts imply that energy is not conserved? >> Why would you think that? >> >> Sylvia. > > Sylvia? averages are not equals... just as statistics are almost > accurate... You mentioned averages. I didn't. Where do averages come into the discussion? Sylvia.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-02-13 19:22 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <04dc42e4-4e28-41fd-89ce-da57362c8f99@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727234 |
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:56:16 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 14/02/2019 1:53 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:44:57 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: > >> On 14/02/2019 12:45 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > >>> Blue shift with Red shift for Averaging light's energy... > >>> > >>> Its conservation is ruled out. Science's first principle > >>> is the first to graduate... to take a correction. It averages > >>> instead... but that is far from the equivalent to sameness > >>> of quantity energy mathematically. > >> > >> You think that red and blue shifts imply that energy is not conserved? > >> Why would you think that? > >> > >> Sylvia. > > > > Sylvia? averages are not equals... just as statistics are almost > > accurate... > > You mentioned averages. I didn't. Where do averages come into the > discussion? > > Sylvia. There is no conservation with shifts. My original point was already made above Sylvia... There are only averages. Red shifts and blueshifts... are defined as the averages. Do you want to argue the accuracy of energy shift statistics? God creates gravity. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-14 16:06 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <gckbb5F4qmcU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #727243 |
On 14/02/2019 2:22 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:56:16 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 14/02/2019 1:53 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:44:57 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> On 14/02/2019 12:45 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> Blue shift with Red shift for Averaging light's energy... >>>>> >>>>> Its conservation is ruled out. Science's first principle >>>>> is the first to graduate... to take a correction. It averages >>>>> instead... but that is far from the equivalent to sameness >>>>> of quantity energy mathematically. >>>> >>>> You think that red and blue shifts imply that energy is not conserved? >>>> Why would you think that? >>>> >>>> Sylvia. >>> >>> Sylvia? averages are not equals... just as statistics are almost >>> accurate... >> >> You mentioned averages. I didn't. Where do averages come into the >> discussion? >> >> Sylvia. > > There is no conservation with shifts. > My original point was already made above Sylvia... > There are only averages. > Red shifts and blueshifts... are defined as the averages. > > Do you want to argue the accuracy of energy shift statistics? > > God creates gravity. > > Mitchell Raemsch > They are not averages. Individual photons are red-shifted or blue-shifted. I don't know where you're getting your ideas from. Sylvia.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-02-13 22:27 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <3db2d489-7525-4918-92ed-007f4fdd53ec@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727261 |
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 9:06:50 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 14/02/2019 2:22 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:56:16 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: > >> On 14/02/2019 1:53 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:44:57 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>> On 14/02/2019 12:45 pm, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> Blue shift with Red shift for Averaging light's energy... > >>>>> > >>>>> Its conservation is ruled out. Science's first principle > >>>>> is the first to graduate... to take a correction. It averages > >>>>> instead... but that is far from the equivalent to sameness > >>>>> of quantity energy mathematically. > >>>> > >>>> You think that red and blue shifts imply that energy is not conserved? > >>>> Why would you think that? > >>>> > >>>> Sylvia. > >>> > >>> Sylvia? averages are not equals... just as statistics are almost > >>> accurate... > >> > >> You mentioned averages. I didn't. Where do averages come into the > >> discussion? > >> > >> Sylvia. > > > > There is no conservation with shifts. > > My original point was already made above Sylvia... > > There are only averages. > > Red shifts and blueshifts... are defined as the averages. > > > > Do you want to argue the accuracy of energy shift statistics? > > > > God creates gravity. > > > > Mitchell Raemsch > > > > They are not averages. Individual photons are red-shifted or blue-shifted. Sure they are... The overall multiple redshifts to blueshifts average out alone. > > I don't know where you're getting your ideas from. > > Sylvia. Go back to reading Sylvia... Einstein got this one wrong. Like he said "One would be enough." God creates gravity. Mitchell Raemsch
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