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WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

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  WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY -  OR  MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 06:54 -0700
    Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 15:30 +0000
      Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 11:38 -0400
        Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 15:50 +0000
          Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:09 -0400
            Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 16:34 +0000
              Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 11:21 -0700
        Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 11:04 -0700
      Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-09-01 14:48 -0400
        Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 20:04 +0000
    Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY -  OR  MASS ?? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-09-01 15:00 -0700
      Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY -  OR  MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 19:17 -0700
        Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 02:27 +0000
          Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 02:28 -0700
            Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-02 19:57 +1000
              Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 06:26 -0700
                Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:39 +0000
                  Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 10:45 -0400
                    Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:17 -0400
                      Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
                Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-03 08:41 +1000
                  Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 15:48 -0700
                  Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 20:10 -0700
                    Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 11:51 -0700
                      Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-03 17:49 -0700
                      Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-03 22:47 -0700
                        Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 13:06 -0700
                          Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-04 13:11 -0700
                  Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 21:32 -0700
            Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:19 +0000
              Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 06:40 -0700
                Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:19 -0700
                  Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:18 -0400
                Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
              Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:20 -0400
                Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 11:45 -0700
                Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
    Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ?? Horatio Trollmeister <invalid@example.com> - 2018-09-01 15:46 -0700

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#700897 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2018-09-03 08:41 +1000
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<fv378pF41o9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#700841
On 2/09/2018 11:26 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:57:36 PM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 2/09/2018 7:28 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> potential energy ??
>>> (:-)
>>> it has no mass?
>>
>> What makes you think that?
>>
>> Sylvia.
> ===============
> sorry
> i don t understand your question

The question is what makes you think that potential energy has no mass?

If it didn't, then one could construct a free-energy machine.

Sylvia.

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#700901 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-09-02 15:48 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<7b1e6120-1cee-4f2d-8f1d-bf5afa93d6e8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#700897
Energy density is mass.

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#700937 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-09-02 20:10 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<fbae0282-6ad6-4e6f-b86d-fe49e5435bb9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#700897
On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 1:41:32 AM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 2/09/2018 11:26 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:57:36 PM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 2/09/2018 7:28 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> potential energy ??
> >>> (:-)
> >>> it has no mass?
> >>
> >> What makes you think that?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> > ===============
> > sorry
> > i don t understand your question
> 
> The question is what makes you think that potential energy has no mass?

==================
??
did i say that potential energy
has no mass ??
quite the contrary !!! even  potential mass
has mass
its movement is an inner movement !!!


> 
> If it didn't, then one could construct a free-energy machine.
=========================
i leave that inner energy machine patent
for you  Silvia
(:-)
BTW it seems that Silvia is a woman 
i  hope so ....
======
Y.P
=================
 

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#700998 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-03 11:51 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<d091b4a2-46a9-42c5-9580-5fb1149fbeba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#700937
On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 8:10:29 PM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 1:41:32 AM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 2/09/2018 11:26 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:57:36 PM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > >> On 2/09/2018 7:28 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> potential energy ??
> > >>> (:-)
> > >>> it has no mass?
> > >>
> > >> What makes you think that?
> > >>
> > >> Sylvia.
> > > ===============
> > > sorry
> > > i don t understand your question
> > 
> > The question is what makes you think that potential energy has no mass?
> 
> ==================
> ??
> did i say that potential energy
> has no mass ??
> quite the contrary !!! even  potential mass
> has mass
> its movement is an inner movement !!!
> 
> 
> > 
> > If it didn't, then one could construct a free-energy machine.
> =========================
> i leave that inner energy machine patent
> for you  Silvia
> (:-)
> BTW it seems that Silvia is a woman 
> i  hope so ....
> ======
> Y.P
> =================

A comet on a direct path to hit Earth is potential energy.Weight time speed it has going for it,but it has to hit Earth to release its force.Its great space is so huge that hits are rare.This is even more true in the quantum realm.Bert  Ps I have a theory luck plays a big part.Jupiter is the most hit planet.We even took picture of a comet hitting.WOW I loved that motion picture 

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#701034 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-09-03 17:49 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<pmkkr5$ivc$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#700998
SwineBert "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>, 
the pig came for his  #3 roll-call of the day to show with his lies
& his stupid palaver that Bert still is a mental Cadaver. O ya. Bert

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#701062 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-09-03 22:47 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<ba4a9d8b-5e3a-4ac4-b473-56499c23d10d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#700998
On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 9:51:29 PM UTC+3, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 8:10:29 PM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 1:41:32 AM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > On 2/09/2018 11:26 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:57:36 PM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >> On 2/09/2018 7:28 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> potential energy ??
> > > >>> (:-)
> > > >>> it has no mass?
> > > >>
> > > >> What makes you think that?
> > > >>
> > > >> Sylvia.
> > > > ===============
> > > > sorry
> > > > i don t understand your question
> > > 
> > > The question is what makes you think that potential energy has no mass?
> > 
> > ==================
> > ??
> > did i say that potential energy
> > has no mass ??
> > quite the contrary !!! even  potential mass
> > has mass
> > its movement is an inner movement !!!
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > If it didn't, then one could construct a free-energy machine.
> > =========================
> > i leave that inner energy machine patent
> > for you  Silvia
> > (:-)
> > BTW it seems that Silvia is a woman 
> > i  hope so ....
> > ======
> > Y.P
> > =================
> 
> A comet on a direct path to hit Earth is potential energy.Weight
=====================
so ??
does   the comet have **mass ?*

even If  having ''potential energy ??
tell  it to BODKIN ...

TIA
Y.P
=============================


 

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#701125 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-04 13:06 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<d1fc5b61-2ea7-4f01-9ea5-74002887b3ac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#701062
On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 10:47:25 PM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 9:51:29 PM UTC+3, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 8:10:29 PM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 1:41:32 AM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > > On 2/09/2018 11:26 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:57:36 PM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > > >> On 2/09/2018 7:28 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> potential energy ??
> > > > >>> (:-)
> > > > >>> it has no mass?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What makes you think that?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sylvia.
> > > > > ===============
> > > > > sorry
> > > > > i don t understand your question
> > > > 
> > > > The question is what makes you think that potential energy has no mass?
> > > 
> > > ==================
> > > ??
> > > did i say that potential energy
> > > has no mass ??
> > > quite the contrary !!! even  potential mass
> > > has mass
> > > its movement is an inner movement !!!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If it didn't, then one could construct a free-energy machine.
> > > =========================
> > > i leave that inner energy machine patent
> > > for you  Silvia
> > > (:-)
> > > BTW it seems that Silvia is a woman 
> > > i  hope so ....
> > > ======
> > > Y.P
> > > =================
> > 
> > A comet on a direct path to hit Earth is potential energy.Weight
> =====================
> so ??
> does   the comet have **mass ?*
> 
> even If  having ''potential energy ??
> tell  it to BODKIN ...
> 
> TIA
> Y.P
> =============================

Comets have speed and weight.Imperial thinkers used comets with this great mass force to change the life forms.Some is reality.Not all.Reality is rats came in and eat eggs of reptiles.The bigger eggs the better. We eat trillions of bird eggs every month.WOW Its no wonder big dinasours are long gone.Reality is if not for their big hard eggs rats would not have such big strong front teeth we see now.They make holes in concrete WOW Bert

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#701127 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-09-04 13:11 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<pmmoup$ts6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#701125
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> is a rat
 whose "bar tab for Bud Light broke all records" Bert
"and along the very same line I guzzle my wine". Bert
"I use Cocaine that is a wonder-drug for me". Bert.
"The drugs I'm taking are fogging my mind".  Bert

"I can't even remember lots of stuff".Bert  ... But...
"I will do even more Drugs till the end of my time". Bert
>
"I am a first class low wit bigot.  Sad and so true. Bert"
"I daily bleat "My Stupid Palaver ( = MSP) to prove
that I have alwasy been a Mental Cadaver. Bert"
____ "I park & bark in the dark. Bert" _________
"I'm a stupid shit and always very full of it." Bert."
>
"Why am I posting this, it's making me cry as it always does".Bert
"Being Jewish I know this is so very true". That is a given. Bert
"Get the picture", "Go figure", "O ya",  "I know why".Bert
>
______  "Why am I not loved by all?". Bert. _________
>
"I am a proud Marxist/Soros/Bolshevik Jew with a IQ of 1-point-22". Bert
"I have a Superiority complex" without any quirks
 which lets me know how everything works." as is seen by
<http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier-s-REAL-intent> as the
<http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal> which
shows that SwineBert has always-ONLY-ONE-thing-on
his mind, namely to do all those items-from-(1)-to-item-(5):
>
(1)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, Face-Shitter Glazier wrote:
Harlow Campbell HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com,
& Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nobody@gmail.com>:
"I'll be sitting on your faces to take a shit & say: "Open wide".
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
>
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, JewPigBert Glazier
said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>:
"Reality is you always post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser."
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
"Benj, you can thank me in advance". - TreBert. ... addinng
>
(3)
On 03Aug2017:
"benj, you eat shit and your shitty brain is coming out your ears."
On 20Jul2018:
Benj, my posts are way over your head.Reality is your head
is up your ass.So fart it out before you get constipated.Bert
>
(4)
On 25Mar2008, Graveyard Vandal Glazier wrote in:
<https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J>
"Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face". --  Bert
>
(5)
On 24Jun2018 SwineBert Glazier said to
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> "your nose is

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#701178 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-09-04 21:32 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<461e06a7-b577-4877-a6a4-b8126830cef8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#700897
On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 1:41:32 AM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 2/09/2018 11:26 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:57:36 PM UTC+3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 2/09/2018 7:28 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> potential energy ??
> >>> (:-)
> >>> it has no mass?
> >>
> >> What makes you think that?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> > ===============
> > sorry
> > i don t understand your question
> 
> The question is what makes you think that potential energy has no mass?
> 
> If it didn't, then one could construct a free-energy machine.
> 
> Sylvia.
============================
not clear what yo say 
so 
once and for all let us make it clear 
DOES POTENTIAL ENERGY 
HAS MASS
OR HAS  NO MASS ??

TIA
Y.P
=====================

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#700839 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 13:19 +0000
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<pmgo0o$1oco$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#700834
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 5:27:11 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 1:00:11 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 6:54:30 AM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> What is more basic 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Energy 
>>>>> or mass ??
>>>>> =====> >>> TIA
>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>> =========================> >> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> E=mc^2.  Therefore mass and energy are the same thing!
>>>> 
>>>> Double-A
>>> =============================> > mass can be
>>> either in movement 
>>> or stationary 
>>> 
>>> can Energy be in a stationary situation ??!!!!
>> 
>> Yes of course. Potential energy stored in a spring is a good example. 
>> 
>>> ==============> > TIA
>>> Y.P
>>> =====================> > 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin  Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> ==================potential energy ??
> (:-)
> it has no mass?

Notice it is stationary energy. 

> now anothr question for you 
> i think i asked you 
> but you answer...
> only**what ''fits you'...
> 
> so another question  for you  ...
> 
> THE CHAIR THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON  IT 
> IS IT ENERGY
> OR IS IT MASS ?  

Both. Not one taking precedence over the other. 

Just a reminder that your childhood perceptions and historical accident
teachings don’t dictate reality. 

> 
> TIA
> Y.P
> ====================



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#700844 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-09-02 06:40 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<983b721c-9eb6-4233-bd8c-3894dba0ea83@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#700839
On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 4:19:25 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 5:27:11 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 1:00:11 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 6:54:30 AM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> What is more basic 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Energy 
> >>>>> or mass ??
> >>>>> =====> >>> TIA
> >>>>> Y.Porat
> >>>>> =========================> >> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> E=mc^2.  Therefore mass and energy are the same thing!
> >>>> 
> >>>> Double-A
> >>> =============================> > mass can be
> >>> either in movement 
> >>> or stationary 
> >>> 
> >>> can Energy be in a stationary situation ??!!!!
> >> 
> >> Yes of course. Potential energy stored in a spring is a good example. 
> >> 
> >>> ==============> > TIA
> >>> Y.P
> >>> =====================> > 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Odd Bodkin   Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > 
> > ==================potential energy ??
> > (:-)
> > it has no mass?
> 
> Notice it is stationary energy. 
> 
> > now anothr question for you 
> > i think i asked you 
> > but you answer...
> > only**what ''fits you'...
> > 
> > so another question  for you  ...
> > 
> > THE CHAIR THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON  IT 
> > IS IT ENERGY
> > OR IS IT MASS ?  
> 
> Both. Not one taking precedence over the other. 
> 
> Just a reminder that your childhood perceptions and historical accident
> teachings don’t dictate reality. 
> 
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > ====================
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
yes indeed not much more than a toy maker 
2
if a f er  mathematician is arbitrarilyis nothing mass as zero 
it does not make mass to be zero !!
the chair you are sitting on
is mass !!
got it parrot ??
you say 
it has inner energy 
ok inner energy 
ut that does not cancel the fact that 
the chair you are sitting on
is first of all **mass
there   be inside it energy 
but you sit on *first of all* on  a  rest mass !
inner energy is another story 
2
it is rather that inner energy
that makes that **mass
as a possible creator of other energies  and radiations!! 
even gravity !!!
====
TIA
Y.P
======================
=====

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#700848 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 07:19 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<f917d619-a2d1-4dd9-b8f9-9a20db00fc06@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#700844
Mass is a variable

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#700855 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 12:18 -0400
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<pmh2gb$b5b$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#700848
On 9/2/2018 10:19 AM, john wrote:
> Mass is a variable
> 
Does Aether have mass? This is THE key question.
Trust me.

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#700873 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<pmhbpv$r4v$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#700844
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 4:19:25 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 5:27:11 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 1:00:11 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 6:54:30 AM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> What is more basic 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Energy 
>>>>>>> or mass ??
>>>>>>> =====> >>> TIA
>>>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>>>> =========================> >> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> E=mc^2.  Therefore mass and energy are the same thing!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Double-A
>>>>> =============================> > mass can be
>>>>> either in movement 
>>>>> or stationary 
>>>>> 
>>>>> can Energy be in a stationary situation ??!!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Yes of course. Potential energy stored in a spring is a good example. 
>>>> 
>>>>> ==============> > TIA
>>>>> Y.P
>>>>> =====================> > 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin   Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>>> ==================potential energy ??
>>> (:-)
>>> it has no mass?
>> 
>> Notice it is stationary energy. 
>> 
>>> now anothr question for you 
>>> i think i asked you 
>>> but you answer...
>>> only**what ''fits you'...
>>> 
>>> so another question  for you  ...
>>> 
>>> THE CHAIR THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON  IT 
>>> IS IT ENERGY
>>> OR IS IT MASS ?  
>> 
>> Both. Not one taking precedence over the other. 
>> 
>> Just a reminder that your childhood perceptions and historical accident
>> teachings dont dictate reality. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> TIA
>>> Y.P
>>> ===================> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin  Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> yes indeed not much more than a toy maker 
> 2
> if a f er  mathematician is arbitrarilyis nothing mass as zero 
> it does not make mass to be zero !!
> the chair you are sitting on
> is mass !!
> got it parrot ??
> you say 
> it has inner energy 
> ok inner energy 
> ut that does not cancel the fact that 
> the chair you are sitting on
> is first of all **mass

No not first if all. Second of all. 

I know you don’t get this. You’re too old too learn something newer than
what you were taught fifty years ago. 

> there   be inside it energy 
> but you sit on *first of all* on  a  rest mass !
> inner energy is another story 
> 2
> it is rather that inner energy
> that makes that **mass
> as a possible creator of other energies  and radiations!! 
> even gravity !!!
> ===TIA
> Y.P
> =========================



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#700857 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 12:20 -0400
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<pmh2ko$b5b$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#700839
On 9/2/2018 9:19 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 5:27:11 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 1:00:11 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 6:54:30 AM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> What is more basic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Energy
>>>>>> or mass ??
>>>>>> =====> >>> TIA
>>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>>> =========================> >>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> E=mc^2.  Therefore mass and energy are the same thing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Double-A
>>>> =============================> > mass can be
>>>> either in movement
>>>> or stationary
>>>>
>>>> can Energy be in a stationary situation ??!!!!
>>>
>>> Yes of course. Potential energy stored in a spring is a good example.
>>>
>>>> ==============> > TIA
>>>> Y.P
>>>> =====================> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Odd Bodkin  Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>
>> ==================potential energy ??
>> (:-)
>> it has no mass?
> 
> Notice it is stationary energy.
> 
>> now anothr question for you
>> i think i asked you
>> but you answer...
>> only**what ''fits you'...
>>
>> so another question  for you  ...
>>
>> THE CHAIR THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON  IT
>> IS IT ENERGY
>> OR IS IT MASS ?
> 
> Both. Not one taking precedence over the other.
> 
> Just a reminder that your childhood perceptions and historical accident
> teachings don’t dictate reality.

Nor do you childhood religious teachings dictate reality.
Because you find it printed in your holy books does not make it true.

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#700871 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-09-02 11:45 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<b1eaaa44-c6ac-4caa-93d7-34219c2b6393@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#700857
On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:20:45 PM UTC+3, benj wrote:
> On 9/2/2018 9:19 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 5:27:11 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 1:00:11 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 6:54:30 AM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> What is more basic
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Energy
> >>>>>> or mass ??
> >>>>>> =====> >>> TIA
> >>>>>> Y.Porat
> >>>>>> =========================> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> E=mc^2.  Therefore mass and energy are the same thing!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Double-A
> >>>> =============================> > mass can be
> >>>> either in movement
> >>>> or stationary
> >>>>
> >>>> can Energy be in a stationary situation ??!!!!
> >>>
> >>> Yes of course. Potential energy stored in a spring is a good example.
> >>>
> >>>> ==============> > TIA
> >>>> Y.P
> >>>> =====================> >
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> Odd Bodkin   Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >>
> >> ==================potential energy ??
> >> (:-)
> >> it has no mass?
> > 
> > Notice it is stationary energy.
> > 
> >> now anothr question for you
> >> i think i asked you
> >> but you answer...
> >> only**what ''fits you'...
> >>
> >> so another question  for you  ...
> >>
> >> THE CHAIR THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON  IT
> >> IS IT ENERGY
> >> OR IS IT MASS ?
> > 
> > Both. Not one taking precedence over the other.
> > 
> > Just a reminder that your childhood perceptions and historical accident
> > teachings don’t dictate reality.
> 
> Nor do you childhood religious teachings dictate reality.
> Because you find it printed in your holy books does not make it true.
=================
tanks to all my friends here 
Y.P
=================

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#700875 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<pmhbq2$r4v$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#700857
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/2/2018 9:19 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 5:27:11 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 1:00:11 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 6:54:30 AM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> What is more basic
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Energy
>>>>>>> or mass ??
>>>>>>> =====> >>> TIA
>>>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>>>> =========================> >>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> E=mc^2.  Therefore mass and energy are the same thing!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Double-A
>>>>> =============================> > mass can be
>>>>> either in movement
>>>>> or stationary
>>>>> 
>>>>> can Energy be in a stationary situation ??!!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Yes of course. Potential energy stored in a spring is a good example.
>>>> 
>>>>> ==============> > TIA
>>>>> Y.P
>>>>> =====================> >
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin  Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>>> ==================potential energy ??
>>> (:-)
>>> it has no mass?
>> 
>> Notice it is stationary energy.
>> 
>>> now anothr question for you
>>> i think i asked you
>>> but you answer...
>>> only**what ''fits you'...
>>> 
>>> so another question  for you  ...
>>> 
>>> THE CHAIR THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON  IT
>>> IS IT ENERGY
>>> OR IS IT MASS ?
>> 
>> Both. Not one taking precedence over the other.
>> 
>> Just a reminder that your childhood perceptions and historical accident
>> teachings don’t dictate reality.
> 
> Nor do you childhood religious teachings dictate reality.
> Because you find it printed in your holy books does not make it true.
> 

Nor does your common sense. Nor does your deep desire to counter prevailing
position for the hell of it. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#700767 — Re: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??

FromHoratio Trollmeister <invalid@example.com>
Date2018-09-01 15:46 -0700
SubjectRe: WHAT IS MORE BASIC ? ! - ENERGY - OR MASS ??
Message-ID<pmf4sq$1imh$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#700703
I fart you.

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