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Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators

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First post2016-06-27 23:15 -0500
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  Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500
    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-28 14:12 -0400
      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 13:58 -0700
        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-28 19:42 -0400
          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 01:14 -0500
            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 23:45 -0700
          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:31 -0700
      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-29 14:48 -0400
    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-28 18:23 +0000
    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 14:15 -0500
      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-30 18:13 -0400
        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 20:40 -0500
          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 01:50 +0000
            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 21:20 -0500
              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:57 +0000
                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:22 -0500
                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 16:34 +0000
                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:19 -0500
                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:39 +0000
                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 13:02 -0500
                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 18:58 +0000
                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:23 -0500
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:38 +0000
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:10 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:32 +0000
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:11 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:33 -0500
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:05 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:18 -0500
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:10 -0500
                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:25 -0500
                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:44 +0000
                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:57 -0500
                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:03 +0000
                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:33 -0500
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 14:41 -0500
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:55 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:15 +0000
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:19 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:33 +0000
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:02 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:19 +0000
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:47 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:42 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:11 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:26 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:41 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:27 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:16 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:52 -0500
                                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:38 +0000
                                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:12 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:37 -0500
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 16:03 -0500
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:34 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:03 +0000
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:23 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:46 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:19 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:27 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:43 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:32 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:23 -0500
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:08 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 11:53 -0500
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 12:26 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:43 +0000
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 13:45 -0500
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:49 -0500
                                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 22:57 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:25 -0500
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:01 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:32 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:03 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:39 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:35 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:03 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:43 +0000
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 19:58 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 01:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 23:20 -0500
                                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 06:00 +0000
                                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 09:45 -0500
                                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 17:04 +0000
                                              Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:44 -0500
                                                Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die; sick or not, Swiss or not. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 21:38 -0500
                                              Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:00 -0400
                                                Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:24 +0000
                                                Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 16:36 -0700
                                                  Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:59 -0400
                                                    Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 17:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-07-02 21:08 -0600
                                                      Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 20:32 -0700
                                              Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-07-03 14:58 -0500
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:55 +0000
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:16 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:37 +0000
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:59 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:21 +0000
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:45 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:12 +0000
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:36 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:38 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:16 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:05 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:05 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:46 -0700
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 17:07 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:05 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:44 +0000
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:05 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:41 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:16 -0500
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 10:33 -0500

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#587839 — Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die.

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2016-07-03 14:58 -0500
SubjectRe: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die.
Message-ID<slrnnniriv.s28.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#587571
On 2016-07-02, Jeff-Relf.Me <> wrote:
><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>
> Switzerland will help _anyone_ die.
>
> It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment.
>
> Robin Williams could've done it that way.

   If you have the will and the balls, it's really quite easy to kill yourself.

   I really don't see why anyone makes a big deal of it or thinks that anyone
should need any help. If you're able, just do it. 

   If you aren't able, then you didn't pay attention every time someone asked 
you if you have an advanced directive. They ask you any time you go to a 
hospital. This shit doesn't just happen overnight and you totally blew it off.

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#587525

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-01 19:55 +0000
Message-ID<1eui4d-ge9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587517
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment
>>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's what I was talking about: (from your link)
>>>>> 
>>>>>    "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze
>>>>> the patient with curare-like drugs"
>>>>> 
>>>>> The name is curare. A very little amount of it
>>>>> shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle
>>>>> spasm. 
>>>> 
>>>> A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors
>>>> only use it in extreme cases and with great care.
>>>> 
>>>> Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about
>>>> the necessity for life support when using it.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. 
>> 
>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>> posting.
>> 
>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>> 
> 
> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
> precisely so it could be put to use.

Because you would have to kill people to figure it out and there are much
better things for everything you have been babbling about these days, fool.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#587528

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 15:16 -0500
Message-ID<wgwx185phfgm.3k8cb1drxnv7$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587525
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:55:13 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's what I was talking about: (from your link)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze
>>>>>> the patient with curare-like drugs"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The name is curare. A very little amount of it
>>>>>> shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle
>>>>>> spasm. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors
>>>>> only use it in extreme cases and with great care.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about
>>>>> the necessity for life support when using it.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. 
>>> 
>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>> posting.
>>> 
>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>> 
>> 
>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>> precisely so it could be put to use.
> 
> Because you would have to kill people to figure it out and there are much
> better things for everything you have been babbling about these days, fool.
> 

No not necessarily. You can always start from amounts
too small to do anything and gradually up to amounts
that start to show symptoms. This way you can stop
right in time and test the necessary amount for any
imaginable situation, any weight, gender, age,
physical condition, etc. 

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#587533

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-01 20:37 +0000
Message-ID<fs0j4d-lm9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587528
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:55:13 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's what I was talking about: (from your link)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze
>>>>>>> the patient with curare-like drugs"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The name is curare. A very little amount of it
>>>>>>> shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle
>>>>>>> spasm. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors
>>>>>> only use it in extreme cases and with great care.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about
>>>>>> the necessity for life support when using it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. 
>>>> 
>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>> posting.
>>>> 
>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>> 
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>> precisely so it could be put to use.
>> 
>> Because you would have to kill people to figure it out and there are much
>> better things for everything you have been babbling about these days, fool.
>> 
> 
> No not necessarily. You can always start from amounts
> too small to do anything and gradually up to amounts
> that start to show symptoms. This way you can stop
> right in time and test the necessary amount for any
> imaginable situation, any weight, gender, age,
> physical condition, etc. 

Nope; the only thing you can do since 1945 is find the minimum level
to have any effect at all.

You are STILL utterly clueless as to what curare does to the human body.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#587536

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 15:59 -0500
Message-ID<e5cjk87qrc21$.13702ql93h4k3.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587533
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:37:03 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:55:13 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That's what I was talking about: (from your link)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze
>>>>>>>> the patient with curare-like drugs"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The name is curare. A very little amount of it
>>>>>>>> shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle
>>>>>>>> spasm. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors
>>>>>>> only use it in extreme cases and with great care.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about
>>>>>>> the necessity for life support when using it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>>> posting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>>> precisely so it could be put to use.
>>> 
>>> Because you would have to kill people to figure it out and there are much
>>> better things for everything you have been babbling about these days, fool.
>>> 
>> 
>> No not necessarily. You can always start from amounts
>> too small to do anything and gradually up to amounts
>> that start to show symptoms. This way you can stop
>> right in time and test the necessary amount for any
>> imaginable situation, any weight, gender, age,
>> physical condition, etc. 
> 
> Nope; the only thing you can do since 1945 is find the minimum level
> to have any effect at all.
> 

Then do the rest yourself. This was my suggestion
first time I thought about it. Get that minimum level
and slightly increase it and see if it was enough to
alleviate spasm. If not, increase it a tiny bit more
and so on. 

> You are STILL utterly clueless as to what curare 
> does to the human body.
> 

It makes the spasm go away :)

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#587542

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-01 21:21 +0000
Message-ID<2g3j4d-av9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587536
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:37:03 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:55:13 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That's what I was talking about: (from your link)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>    "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze
>>>>>>>>> the patient with curare-like drugs"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The name is curare. A very little amount of it
>>>>>>>>> shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle
>>>>>>>>> spasm. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors
>>>>>>>> only use it in extreme cases and with great care.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about
>>>>>>>> the necessity for life support when using it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>>>> precisely so it could be put to use.
>>>> 
>>>> Because you would have to kill people to figure it out and there are much
>>>> better things for everything you have been babbling about these days, fool.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> No not necessarily. You can always start from amounts
>>> too small to do anything and gradually up to amounts
>>> that start to show symptoms. This way you can stop
>>> right in time and test the necessary amount for any
>>> imaginable situation, any weight, gender, age,
>>> physical condition, etc. 
>> 
>> Nope; the only thing you can do since 1945 is find the minimum level
>> to have any effect at all.
>> 
> 
> Then do the rest yourself. This was my suggestion
> first time I thought about it. Get that minimum level
> and slightly increase it and see if it was enough to
> alleviate spasm. If not, increase it a tiny bit more
> and so on. 

Idiot.
 
>> You are STILL utterly clueless as to what curare 
>> does to the human body.
>> 
> 
> It makes the spasm go away :)

So does a .38 in the mouth, idiot.


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#587549

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 16:45 -0500
Message-ID<xe5tyadv6tb3$.7u6fbipaf098$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587542
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:21:38 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:37:03 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:55:13 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That's what I was talking about: (from your link)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>    "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze
>>>>>>>>>> the patient with curare-like drugs"
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The name is curare. A very little amount of it
>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle
>>>>>>>>>> spasm. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors
>>>>>>>>> only use it in extreme cases and with great care.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about
>>>>>>>>> the necessity for life support when using it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>>>>> precisely so it could be put to use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because you would have to kill people to figure it out and there are much
>>>>> better things for everything you have been babbling about these days, fool.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> No not necessarily. You can always start from amounts
>>>> too small to do anything and gradually up to amounts
>>>> that start to show symptoms. This way you can stop
>>>> right in time and test the necessary amount for any
>>>> imaginable situation, any weight, gender, age,
>>>> physical condition, etc. 
>>> 
>>> Nope; the only thing you can do since 1945 is find the minimum level
>>> to have any effect at all.
>>> 
>> 
>> Then do the rest yourself. This was my suggestion
>> first time I thought about it. Get that minimum level
>> and slightly increase it and see if it was enough to
>> alleviate spasm. If not, increase it a tiny bit more
>> and so on. 
> 
> Idiot.
>  

Now that I know more, I know it would work in bed.
Very effectively indeed. I still don't know how long
it would take for its effects to go away. If in
minutes, then ideal. If longer then only right before
falling sleep at night. 

There are no side effects! It only does one thing
which is fully reversible. 

>>> You are STILL utterly clueless as to what curare 
>>> does to the human body.
>>> 
>> 
>> It makes the spasm go away :)
> 
> So does a .38 in the mouth, idiot.
> 

You must be ancient. How old are you? Nobody I know
have .38 anymore. Neither do I. 

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#587557

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-01 22:12 +0000
Message-ID<gf6j4d-a7a.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587549
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Now that I know more, I know it would work in bed.

You know nothing.

> Very effectively indeed. I still don't know how long
> it would take for its effects to go away. If in
> minutes, then ideal. If longer then only right before
> falling sleep at night. 

For about the 10th time, curare is not an anesthetic, idiot.'

> There are no side effects! It only does one thing
> which is fully reversible. 

Wrong again, idiot.

<snip>

> You must be ancient. How old are you? Nobody I know
> have .38 anymore. Neither do I. 

I shudder to think of an idiot like you owning a gun of any kind.


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#587564

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 17:36 -0500
Message-ID<w8bvfmispm35$.4t8b3z53z9f1$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587557
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:12:32 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Now that I know more, I know it would work in bed.
> 
> You know nothing.
> 
>> Very effectively indeed. I still don't know how long
>> it would take for its effects to go away. If in
>> minutes, then ideal. If longer then only right before
>> falling sleep at night. 
> 
> For about the 10th time, curare is not an anesthetic, idiot.'
> 

For as many times as that, when spasm go away pain
goes away. 

>> There are no side effects! It only does one thing
>> which is fully reversible. 
> 
> Wrong again, idiot.
> 

Provide me with evidence :) 


> <snip>
> 
>> You must be ancient. How old are you? Nobody I know
>> have .38 anymore. Neither do I. 
> 
> I shudder to think of an idiot like you owning a gun of any kind.
> 

Yes I think you probably should. That's why they added
it to Constitution so idiots like you would shudder. 

You didn't say how old you are, are you 90? 

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#587590

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 00:38 +0000
Message-ID<g0fj4d-04b.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587564
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:12:32 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>>> Now that I know more, I know it would work in bed.
>> 
>> You know nothing.
>> 
>>> Very effectively indeed. I still don't know how long
>>> it would take for its effects to go away. If in
>>> minutes, then ideal. If longer then only right before
>>> falling sleep at night. 
>> 
>> For about the 10th time, curare is not an anesthetic, idiot.'
>> 
> 
> For as many times as that, when spasm go away pain
> goes away. 

Idiot.

>>> There are no side effects! It only does one thing
>>> which is fully reversible. 
>> 
>> Wrong again, idiot.
>> 
> 
> Provide me with evidence :) 

Do your own research, idiot.

>> <snip>
>> 
>>> You must be ancient. How old are you? Nobody I know
>>> have .38 anymore. Neither do I. 
>> 
>> I shudder to think of an idiot like you owning a gun of any kind.
>> 
> 
> Yes I think you probably should.

Especially given the high likelyhood that you would shoot yourself
in the leg, several times.


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#587607

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 20:16 -0500
Message-ID<14yvst6oo0hd2.9ow48vta7wj3$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587590
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:38:08 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:12:32 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> <snip>
>>> 
>>>> Now that I know more, I know it would work in bed.
>>> 
>>> You know nothing.
>>> 
>>>> Very effectively indeed. I still don't know how long
>>>> it would take for its effects to go away. If in
>>>> minutes, then ideal. If longer then only right before
>>>> falling sleep at night. 
>>> 
>>> For about the 10th time, curare is not an anesthetic, idiot.'
>>> 
>> 
>> For as many times as that, when spasm go away pain
>> goes away. 
> 
> Idiot.
> 

The pain in leg cramp is because of spasm, isn't it
so? Spasm goes away, pain goes away. 

>>>> There are no side effects! It only does one thing
>>>> which is fully reversible. 
>>> 
>>> Wrong again, idiot.
>>> 
>> 
>> Provide me with evidence :) 
> 
> Do your own research, idiot.
> 

I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
always. 


>>> <snip>
>>> 
>>>> You must be ancient. How old are you? Nobody I know
>>>> have .38 anymore. Neither do I. 
>>> 
>>> I shudder to think of an idiot like you owning a gun of any kind.
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes I think you probably should.
> 
> Especially given the high likelyhood that you would shoot yourself
> in the leg, several times.
> 

I don't even know where you get your ideas from.
Probably from your "Iran Experts." Hehe :) I have been
armed all my adult life and never had a mishap. Such
mishaps take place with those who buy a gun and get
into the idea that it is a toy to play with (just
because it is also sport after all). No it is not a
toy like your other toys (tools and stuff). A gun is a
snake. A rattle snake. Loaded or unloaded. You handle
it with respect and know every step of the way what to
do with it in a safe and effective manner. When I see
how in these movies they handle their guns it does
make me shudder. 

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#587631

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 05:41 +0000
Message-ID<2q0k4d-nrc.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587607
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:38:08 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:12:32 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> <snip>
>>>> 
>>>>> Now that I know more, I know it would work in bed.
>>>> 
>>>> You know nothing.
>>>> 
>>>>> Very effectively indeed. I still don't know how long
>>>>> it would take for its effects to go away. If in
>>>>> minutes, then ideal. If longer then only right before
>>>>> falling sleep at night. 
>>>> 
>>>> For about the 10th time, curare is not an anesthetic, idiot.'
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> For as many times as that, when spasm go away pain
>>> goes away. 
>> 
>> Idiot.
>> 
> 
> The pain in leg cramp is because of spasm, isn't it
> so? Spasm goes away, pain goes away. 
> 
>>>>> There are no side effects! It only does one thing
>>>>> which is fully reversible. 
>>>> 
>>>> Wrong again, idiot.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Provide me with evidence :) 
>> 
>> Do your own research, idiot.
>> 
> 
> I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
> it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
> spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
> always.

Everything you posted was silly nonsense. 
 
> 
>>>> <snip>
>>>> 
>>>>> You must be ancient. How old are you? Nobody I know
>>>>> have .38 anymore. Neither do I. 
>>>> 
>>>> I shudder to think of an idiot like you owning a gun of any kind.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes I think you probably should.
>> 
>> Especially given the high likelyhood that you would shoot yourself
>> in the leg, several times.
>> 
> 
> I don't even know where you get your ideas from.

From your idiotic posts.


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#587638

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 10:05 -0500
Message-ID<1m3ryfmiefd6s.11hdr27sjgu4i$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587631
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:41:54 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>> 
>> I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
>> it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
>> spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
>> always.
> 
> Everything you posted was silly nonsense. 
>  

Well, why bother then. That doesn't help me (or
possible readers). If you have a better argument help
yourself. Usenet is not a place to come in tell others
to go elsewhere for information. It _is_ supposed to
be the place to deliver information. Present them! 

>>> 
>> 
>> I don't even know where you get your ideas from.
> 
> From your idiotic posts.
> 
> 

From my posts you found out I shoot myself in the legs
with my gun? Who looks like an idiot here? And look
who's saying that to me in the first place, an
American. The moment a non-American gets a chance to
see how you people even _drive_ he figures you're
paying high monthly car insurance bills. You take
driving as if you're sitting on a couch watching TV,
with one hand stretched over the other seat and an
idiotic gesture on your faces as if you're watching
American comedy (i.e. for 12 year olds). You don't
know how idiotic you look. And you come here speak of
"idiocy" to me. 

It used to be even in your advertisements until more
foreigners came in and told you to shove that. 

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#587666

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 17:55 +0000
Message-ID<cqbl4d-5ch.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587638
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:41:54 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
>>> it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
>>> spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
>>> always.
>> 
>> Everything you posted was silly nonsense. 
>>  
> 
> Well, why bother then. That doesn't help me (or
> possible readers). If you have a better argument help
> yourself. Usenet is not a place to come in tell others
> to go elsewhere for information. It _is_ supposed to
> be the place to deliver information. Present them! 

I am delivering the information that everything you post is silly nonsense.


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#587687

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 16:05 -0500
Message-ID<rnr4i4hyto0g$.1ukf9kntedcuy.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587666
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:55:56 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:41:54 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
>>>> it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
>>>> spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
>>>> always.
>>> 
>>> Everything you posted was silly nonsense. 
>>>  
>> 
>> Well, why bother then. That doesn't help me (or
>> possible readers). If you have a better argument help
>> yourself. Usenet is not a place to come in tell others
>> to go elsewhere for information. It _is_ supposed to
>> be the place to deliver information. Present them! 
> 
> I am delivering the information that everything you 
> post is silly nonsense.
> 
> 

That's not enough information for me or others. You
must bring your argument in. 

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#587703

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-02 14:46 -0700
Message-ID<cb6377d0-4c0b-46da-959e-d46c7bcd2ca7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587687
On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 2:05:44 PM UTC-7, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:55:56 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
> > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:41:54 -0000,
> >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
> >>>> it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
> >>>> spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
> >>>> always.
> >>> 
> >>> Everything you posted was silly nonsense. 
> >>>  
> >> 
> >> Well, why bother then. That doesn't help me (or
> >> possible readers). If you have a better argument help
> >> yourself. Usenet is not a place to come in tell others
> >> to go elsewhere for information. It _is_ supposed to
> >> be the place to deliver information. Present them! 
> > 
> > I am delivering the information that everything you 
> > post is silly nonsense.
> > 
> > 
> 
> That's not enough information for me or others. You
> must bring your argument in. 
> 
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Reading all of this I think most of us have thoughts on how to end our lives.I do not want to die in bed having my hand held.I have posted is I only have say 6 nonths left its sailing from Huntinton Beach to Hawaii I grew up on the ocean,and sleeped on Revere Beach for 2 years. If not that I will join the Neptune society,and be cast into the ocean. I'm only 88 and eat my MSP so I look to the future and in the near future I will be the mayor of Fullerton. Make M*M a famous company.Have G=EMC^2 on every USA den wall.Have Chief Grey cloud next to it.

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#587708

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 17:07 -0500
Message-ID<18rqmvyqebh6e$.1wft33lyhhx14$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587703
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 14:46:22 -0700 (PDT), reber g=emc^2
wrote:

> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 2:05:44 PM UTC-7, ClutterFreak wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:55:56 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:41:54 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
>>>>>> it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
>>>>>> spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
>>>>>> always.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Everything you posted was silly nonsense. 
>>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Well, why bother then. That doesn't help me (or
>>>> possible readers). If you have a better argument help
>>>> yourself. Usenet is not a place to come in tell others
>>>> to go elsewhere for information. It _is_ supposed to
>>>> be the place to deliver information. Present them! 
>>> 
>>> I am delivering the information that everything you 
>>> post is silly nonsense.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> That's not enough information for me or others. You
>> must bring your argument in. 
>> 
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> 
> Reading all of this I think most of us have thoughts on how 
> to end our lives.I do not want to die in bed having my hand 
> held.I have posted is I only have say 6 nonths left its 
> sailing from Huntinton Beach to Hawaii I grew up on the 
> ocean,and sleeped on Revere Beach for 2 years. If not 
> that I will join the Neptune society,and be cast into 
> the ocean. I'm only 88 and eat my MSP so I look to the 
> future and in the near future I will be the mayor of 
> Fullerton. Make M*M a famous company.Have G=EMC^2 on 
> every USA den wall.Have Chief Grey cloud next to it.

Hmm.. So you feel you belong to ocean and should go
back to it. An Iranian, the true Iranians, would want
to go the way of the "towers of silence" :) But it is
illegal and they don't allow it. Still some people
sneak in and do it sometimes. Iranians who left for
India 1400 years ago took that tradition with them and
some of the towers of silence are even active in India
(I think). I know it because in pictures you can still
see vultures lining up all around the top of the round
wall waiting! 

Tower of silence is a conical area high up on top of
some hill or even mountain with a thick high wall
around it and a door that's not easy to break open. In
the middle there is a cylindrical pit dug into ground
that holds skeletons of the dead of the area from
centuries back. They're all still there, with snow
sitting on them and sun and stars shining on them,
like when they were alive. Their flesh are eaten
shortly after the dead is placed on the inclined area
around it. Vultures are always ready and will turn a
body into white clean pure bones in just a couple of
days. Then the relatives come back and throw the
skeleton inside the pit. I would've liked to go that
way :) But it is illegal now. Morally also you owe
your flesh to birds to a good extent. 

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#587776

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-03 00:05 -0500
Message-ID<nla6g0$1c3n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587708
On 7/2/2016 5:07 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 14:46:22 -0700 (PDT), reber g=emc^2
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 2:05:44 PM UTC-7, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:55:56 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:41:54 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
>>>>>>> it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
>>>>>>> spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
>>>>>>> always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything you posted was silly nonsense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, why bother then. That doesn't help me (or
>>>>> possible readers). If you have a better argument help
>>>>> yourself. Usenet is not a place to come in tell others
>>>>> to go elsewhere for information. It _is_ supposed to
>>>>> be the place to deliver information. Present them!
>>>>
>>>> I am delivering the information that everything you
>>>> post is silly nonsense.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's not enough information for me or others. You
>>> must bring your argument in.
>>>
>>> ---


>> Reading all of this I think most of us have thoughts on how
>> to end our lives.I do not want to die in bed having my hand
>> held.I have posted is I only have say 6 nonths left its
>> sailing from Huntinton Beach to Hawaii I grew up on the
>> ocean,and sleeped on Revere Beach for 2 years. If not
>> that I will join the Neptune society,and be cast into
>> the ocean. I'm only 88 and eat my MSP so I look to the
>> future and in the near future I will be the mayor of
>> Fullerton. Make M*M a famous company.Have G=EMC^2 on
>> every USA den wall.Have Chief Grey cloud next to it.

> Hmm.. So you feel you belong to ocean and should go
> back to it. An Iranian, the true Iranians, would want
> to go the way of the "towers of silence" :) But it is
> illegal and they don't allow it. Still some people
> sneak in and do it sometimes. Iranians who left for
> India 1400 years ago took that tradition with them and
> some of the towers of silence are even active in India
> (I think). I know it because in pictures you can still
> see vultures lining up all around the top of the round
> wall waiting!

> Tower of silence is a conical area high up on top of
> some hill or even mountain with a thick high wall
> around it and a door that's not easy to break open. In
> the middle there is a cylindrical pit dug into ground
> that holds skeletons of the dead of the area from
> centuries back. They're all still there, with snow
> sitting on them and sun and stars shining on them,
> like when they were alive. Their flesh are eaten
> shortly after the dead is placed on the inclined area
> around it. Vultures are always ready and will turn a
> body into white clean pure bones in just a couple of
> days. Then the relatives come back and throw the
> skeleton inside the pit. I would've liked to go that
> way :) But it is illegal now. Morally also you owe
> your flesh to birds to a good extent.
>

wow,
I found out about those  "towers of silence" via a german photo book of 
a battleship cruse, that went from germany to china in 1910, they 
stopped off in India where they went by one and took photos.
and they are very effecient.

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#587712

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 22:44 +0000
Message-ID<lmsl4d-t4j.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587687
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:55:56 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:41:54 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
>>>>> it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
>>>>> spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
>>>>> always.
>>>> 
>>>> Everything you posted was silly nonsense. 
>>>>  
>>> 
>>> Well, why bother then. That doesn't help me (or
>>> possible readers). If you have a better argument help
>>> yourself. Usenet is not a place to come in tell others
>>> to go elsewhere for information. It _is_ supposed to
>>> be the place to deliver information. Present them! 
>> 
>> I am delivering the information that everything you 
>> post is silly nonsense.
>> 
>> 
> 
> That's not enough information for me or others. You
> must bring your argument in. 

That your posts are silly nonsense is all anyone needs to know.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#587747

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 20:05 -0500
Message-ID<ykat6a3ohxf1$.1v80sge3qqjym.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587712
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 22:44:05 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:55:56 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:41:54 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't have leg spasm issues. Why should I research
>>>>>> it. I suggested curare to Sergio who seems to have leg
>>>>>> spasm issues. Then you parachuted down into it like
>>>>>> always.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Everything you posted was silly nonsense. 
>>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Well, why bother then. That doesn't help me (or
>>>> possible readers). If you have a better argument help
>>>> yourself. Usenet is not a place to come in tell others
>>>> to go elsewhere for information. It _is_ supposed to
>>>> be the place to deliver information. Present them! 
>>> 
>>> I am delivering the information that everything you 
>>> post is silly nonsense.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> That's not enough information for me or others. You
>> must bring your argument in. 
> 
> That your posts are silly nonsense is all anyone needs to know.
> 
> 

I suspect they will not know that until you show your
better argument or data. Same for me. Just saying my
words are nonsense doesn't do anything. 

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