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Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions.

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First post2018-06-05 08:22 -0400
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  Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 08:22 -0400
    Re:Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-06-05 20:13 +0200
      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-05 21:50 -0400
        Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
          Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
            Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-06 20:04 +1000
              Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-06 08:02 -0400
                Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-06 07:27 -0500
                  Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:26 -0400
            Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:10 -0400
    Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-06 13:11 +1000
      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:07 -0400
        Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-09 15:33 +1000
    Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 11:35 -0700
      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-07 12:30 -0700
      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-07 16:43 -0400
        Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-09 15:34 +1000
          Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-09 02:15 -0400
            Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-09 19:28 +1000
              Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-09 11:43 -0400
                Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 06:26 +1000
                  Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-10 17:00 -0400
                    Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 08:17 +1000
                      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-10 18:51 -0400
                        Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 10:12 +1000
                          Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-10 20:32 -0400
                            Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-10 21:02 -0500
                            Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 15:52 +1000
                              Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-11 09:07 -0400
                                Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-12 09:23 +1000
                                  Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-11 19:42 -0400
                                    Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-12 09:51 +1000
                                      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-11 21:06 -0400
                      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:29 -0400
                        Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 12:31 -0700
                          Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-11 13:40 -0700
                          Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:28 -0400
                  Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:13 -0400
              Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:17 -0400
    Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 20:00 -0500
      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 22:55 -0400

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#689913

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-06-11 06:26 +1000
Message-ID<fo5fs3F8jerU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689654
On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>
>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>
>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>
>>> Can you use Google?
>>
>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>
>>>
>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>
>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>
>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>
>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>
>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>
>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>
>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>> scientific article.
> 
> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
> links:
> 
> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
> Published: November 16, 2017
> 
> This is one article mentioned in my links.
> 
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
> America (GSA).
> 
> 
> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?

**What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed 
paper. There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory. 
There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is 
doing so as a result of global warming.

> 
> Why did you ask for it?

**Because the peer-review process is robust and the best system we have.

> 
> Are you going to withdraw your charge of insanity?

*Not a chance. benj is a scientific ignoramus.

> 
> How many times have we seen a preponderance of evidence provoke a
> greenie to ask a question intended to prop up the "uncertainty" part
> of their FUD mission ... when they weren't playing the tautology game
> or flat out lying.

**Dunno. You tell me.

> 
> 
>>>
>>> Some here seem to have lost respect for them, but do you want to call
>>> Scientific American insane?
>>
>> **Just benj.
> 
> So it's a personal issue, supported by neither science nor religion?

**Nope. An observation, based on benj's inability to separate science 
from stupidity.


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#689916

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-06-10 17:00 -0400
Message-ID<bl3rhdhkjr3k0togdsjgvqacve48468lbl@4ax.com>
In reply to#689913
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>
>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>
>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>
>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>
>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>
>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>
>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>> scientific article.
>> 
>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>> links:
>> 
>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>> Published: November 16, 2017
>> 
>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>> 
>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>> 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>> America (GSA).
>> 
>> 
>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>
>**What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed 
>paper.

What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?

Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.

From the peer-reviewed paper:
"The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
2002)."

> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory. 
>There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is 
>doing so as a result of global warming.

... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
"climate change?"

They do it all the time, you know.

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#689925

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-06-11 08:17 +1000
Message-ID<fo5mckF9pjdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689916
On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>
>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>
>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>
>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>> scientific article.
>>>
>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>> links:
>>>
>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>
>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>
>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>> America (GSA).
>>>
>>>
>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>
>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>> paper.
> 
> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
> 
> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
> 
>  From the peer-reviewed paper:
> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
> 2002)."
> 
>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>> doing so as a result of global warming.
> 
> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
> "climate change?"

**Strawman duly noted.

> 
> They do it all the time, you know.

**"ALL the time"?

Prove it.



-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#689930

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-06-10 18:51 -0400
Message-ID<b5arhdttii4632klcr3snlbonmecjn22ho@4ax.com>
In reply to#689925
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>
>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>
>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>> links:
>>>>
>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>
>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>
>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>> paper.
>> 
>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>> 
>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>> 
>>  From the peer-reviewed paper:
>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>> 2002)."
>> 
>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>> 
>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>> "climate change?"
>
>**Strawman duly noted.

You don't have selective indignation, do you?

Go rail at Kensi for this post:

From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
:>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood 
:>about climate change effects on West Kettle River


>> They do it all the time, you know.
>
>**"ALL the time"?
>
>Prove it.

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.

Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.

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#689939

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-06-11 10:12 +1000
Message-ID<fo5t3tFat6pU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689930
On 11/06/2018 8:51 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>> links:
>>>>>
>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>
>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>
>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>> paper.
>>>
>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>
>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>
>>>   From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>> 2002)."
>>>
>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>
>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>> "climate change?"
>>
>> **Strawman duly noted.
> 
> You don't have selective indignation, do you?
> 
> Go rail at Kensi for this post:
> 
> From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
> Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
> :>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
> :>about climate change effects on West Kettle River

**Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the 
header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.

> 
> 
>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>
>> **"ALL the time"?
>>
>> Prove it.
> 
> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
> 3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.
> 
> Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.

**OK, so you lied when you made that claim. I accept that.


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#689944

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-06-10 20:32 -0400
Message-ID<ldgrhd136eb86pacll35cqal7ct44oj5gj@4ax.com>
In reply to#689939
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:12:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 11/06/2018 8:51 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>>> links:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>>
>>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>>> paper.
>>>>
>>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>>
>>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>>
>>>>   From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>>> 2002)."
>>>>
>>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>>
>>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>>> "climate change?"
>>>
>>> **Strawman duly noted.
>> 
>> You don't have selective indignation, do you?
>> 
>> Go rail at Kensi for this post:
>> 
>> From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
>> Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
>> :>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>> :>about climate change effects on West Kettle River
>
>**Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the 
>header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.

... while you are waiting, consider:

Kensi's post might have been on topic in alt.FUD or sci.hydrology, but
it wasn't on topic in sci.physics.

>> 
>> 
>>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>>
>>> **"ALL the time"?
>>>
>>> Prove it.
>> 
>> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
>> 3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.
>> 
>> Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.
>
>**OK, so you lied when you made that claim. I accept that.

It wasn't offered.

Maybe resources here will help in understanding the definition quoted
above:
www.hookedonphonics.com/

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#689951

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-06-10 21:02 -0500
Message-ID<pfkl7a$1jl6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#689944
On 6/10/2018 7:32 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:12:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 11/06/2018 8:51 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>>>> links:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>
>>>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>>>
>>>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>>>
>>>>>   From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>>>> 2002)."
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>>>> "climate change?"
>>>>
>>>> **Strawman duly noted.
>>>
>>> You don't have selective indignation, do you?
>>>
>>> Go rail at Kensi for this post:
>>>
>>> From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
>>> Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
>>> :>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>> :>about climate change effects on West Kettle River
>>
>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the 
>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
> 
> ... while you are waiting, consider:
> 
> Kensi's post might have been on topic in alt.FUD or sci.hydrology, but
> it wasn't on topic in sci.physics.
> 
>>>
>>>
>>>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>>>
>>>> **"ALL the time"?
>>>>
>>>> Prove it.
>>>
>>> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
>>> 3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.
>>>
>>> Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.
>>
>> **OK, so you lied when you made that claim. I accept that.
> 
> It wasn't offered.
> 
> Maybe resources here will help in understanding the definition quoted
> above:
> www.hookedonphonics.com/
> 

Trevor is a moron, a Nads clone clown.

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#689973

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-06-11 15:52 +1000
Message-ID<fo6h0jFe548U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689944
On 11/06/2018 10:32 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:12:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 11/06/2018 8:51 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>>>> links:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>
>>>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>>>
>>>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>>>
>>>>>    From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>>>> 2002)."
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>>>> "climate change?"
>>>>
>>>> **Strawman duly noted.
>>>
>>> You don't have selective indignation, do you?
>>>
>>> Go rail at Kensi for this post:
>>>
>>> From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
>>> Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
>>> :>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>> :>about climate change effects on West Kettle River
>>
>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
> 
> ... while you are waiting, consider:

**Perhaps you missed my question. I'll re-ask it:

**Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the 
header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.

> 
> Kensi's post might have been on topic in alt.FUD or sci.hydrology, but
> it wasn't on topic in sci.physics.

**I don't give a flying fuck. YOU posted the stawman. YOU burn it down.

> 
>>>
>>>
>>>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>>>
>>>> **"ALL the time"?
>>>>
>>>> Prove it.
>>>
>>> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
>>> 3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.
>>>
>>> Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.
>>
>> **OK, so you lied when you made that claim. I accept that.
> 
> It wasn't offered.

**Doesn't matter. I can recognise a liar. You are one.

> 
> Maybe resources here will help in understanding the definition quoted
> above:
> www.hookedonphonics.com/


**I suggest you read this:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t



-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#689988

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-06-11 09:07 -0400
Message-ID<1tsshdh378jvo1rbuph7dbjaonbnfqmpon@4ax.com>
In reply to#689973
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:52:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 11/06/2018 10:32 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:12:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/06/2018 8:51 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>>>>> links:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>>>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>>>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>>>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>>>>> 2002)."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>>>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>>>>> "climate change?"
>>>>>
>>>>> **Strawman duly noted.
>>>>
>>>> You don't have selective indignation, do you?
>>>>
>>>> Go rail at Kensi for this post:
>>>>
>>>> From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
>>>> Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
>>>> :>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>> :>about climate change effects on West Kettle River
>>>
>>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
>> 
>> ... while you are waiting, consider:
>
>**Perhaps you missed my question. I'll re-ask it:
>
>**Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the 
>header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.

You said you were going to wait ...

... did you lie?



>> Kensi's post might have been on topic in alt.FUD or sci.hydrology, but
>> it wasn't on topic in sci.physics.
>
>**I don't give a flying fuck. YOU posted the stawman. YOU burn it down.
>
>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>>>>
>>>>> **"ALL the time"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>
>>>> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
>>>> 3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.
>>>
>>> **OK, so you lied when you made that claim. I accept that.
>> 
>> It wasn't offered.
>
>**Doesn't matter. I can recognise a liar. You are one.
>
>> 
>> Maybe resources here will help in understanding the definition quoted
>> above:
>> www.hookedonphonics.com/
>
>
>**I suggest you read this:
>
>http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t

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#690129

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-06-12 09:23 +1000
Message-ID<fo8ejnFpn3jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689988
On 11/06/2018 11:07 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:52:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 11/06/2018 10:32 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:12:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/06/2018 8:51 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>>>>>> links:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>>>>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>>>>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>>>>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>>>>>> 2002)."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>>>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>>>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>>>>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>>>>>> "climate change?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Strawman duly noted.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't have selective indignation, do you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Go rail at Kensi for this post:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
>>>>> Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
>>>>> :>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>>> :>about climate change effects on West Kettle River
>>>>
>>>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>>>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
>>>
>>> ... while you are waiting, consider:
>>
>> **Perhaps you missed my question. I'll re-ask it:
>>
>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
> 
> You said you were going to wait ...
> 
> ... did you lie?

**Nope. I'm STILL waiting.

Let me remind you: YOU are the liar here. We both know it.

> 
> 
> 
>>> Kensi's post might have been on topic in alt.FUD or sci.hydrology, but
>>> it wasn't on topic in sci.physics.
>>
>> **I don't give a flying fuck. YOU posted the stawman. YOU burn it down.

**Good to see that you've burned your own strawman down. Try to do 
better next time.

>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **"ALL the time"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
>>>>> 3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.
>>>>
>>>> **OK, so you lied when you made that claim. I accept that.
>>>
>>> It wasn't offered.
>>
>> **Doesn't matter. I can recognise a liar. You are one.
>>
>>>
>>> Maybe resources here will help in understanding the definition quoted
>>> above:
>>> www.hookedonphonics.com/
>>
>>
>> **I suggest you read this:
>>
>> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t

**Just a reminder:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t



-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#690130

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-06-11 19:42 -0400
Message-ID<g32uhd1bvvqb0u3nqh1bi8unmppc9nc2r9@4ax.com>
In reply to#690129
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:23:33 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 11/06/2018 11:07 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:52:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/06/2018 10:32 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:12:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/06/2018 8:51 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>>>>>>> links:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>>>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>>>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>>>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>>>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>>>>>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>>>>>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>>>>>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>>>>>>> 2002)."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>>>>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>>>>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>>>>>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>>>>>>> "climate change?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Strawman duly noted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't have selective indignation, do you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go rail at Kensi for this post:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
>>>>>> Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
>>>>>> :>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>>>> :>about climate change effects on West Kettle River
>>>>>
>>>>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>>>>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
>>>>
>>>> ... while you are waiting, consider:
>>>
>>> **Perhaps you missed my question. I'll re-ask it:
>>>
>>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
>> 
>> You said you were going to wait ...
>> 
>> ... did you lie?
>
>**Nope. I'm STILL waiting.
>
>Let me remind you: YOU are the liar here. We both know it.
>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> Kensi's post might have been on topic in alt.FUD or sci.hydrology, but
>>>> it wasn't on topic in sci.physics.
>>>
>>> **I don't give a flying fuck. YOU posted the stawman. YOU burn it down.
>
>**Good to see that you've burned your own strawman down. Try to do 
>better next time.

What?!

Maybe you just read more of the post this time wherein your selective
indignation may have been showing.


>>>>>>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **"ALL the time"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
>>>>>> 3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.
>>>>>
>>>>> **OK, so you lied when you made that claim. I accept that.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't offered.
>>>
>>> **Doesn't matter. I can recognise a liar. You are one.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe resources here will help in understanding the definition quoted
>>>> above:
>>>> www.hookedonphonics.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> **I suggest you read this:
>>>
>>> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t
>
>**Just a reminder:
>
>http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t

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#690132

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-06-12 09:51 +1000
Message-ID<fo8g8cFpvvnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#690130
On 12/06/2018 9:42 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:23:33 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 11/06/2018 11:07 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:52:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/06/2018 10:32 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:12:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/06/2018 8:51 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>>>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>>>>>>>> links:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>>>>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>>>>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>>>>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>>>>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>>>>>>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>>>>>>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>>>>>>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>>>>>>>> 2002)."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>>>>>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>>>>>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>>>>>>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>>>>>>>> "climate change?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Strawman duly noted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't have selective indignation, do you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Go rail at Kensi for this post:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
>>>>>>> Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
>>>>>>> :>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>>>>> :>about climate change effects on West Kettle River
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>>>>>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... while you are waiting, consider:
>>>>
>>>> **Perhaps you missed my question. I'll re-ask it:
>>>>
>>>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>>>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
>>>
>>> You said you were going to wait ...
>>>
>>> ... did you lie?
>>
>> **Nope. I'm STILL waiting.
>>
>> Let me remind you: YOU are the liar here. We both know it.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Kensi's post might have been on topic in alt.FUD or sci.hydrology, but
>>>>> it wasn't on topic in sci.physics.
>>>>
>>>> **I don't give a flying fuck. YOU posted the stawman. YOU burn it down.
>>
>> **Good to see that you've burned your own strawman down. Try to do
>> better next time.
> 
> What?!

**Having difficulties locating the correct punctuation keys?

> 
> Maybe you just read more of the post this time wherein your selective
> indignation may have been showing.

**Nope. Just pointing out your strawman. Nothing more.


> 
> 
>>>>>>>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **"ALL the time"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
>>>>>>> 3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **OK, so you lied when you made that claim. I accept that.
>>>>>
>>>>> It wasn't offered.
>>>>
>>>> **Doesn't matter. I can recognise a liar. You are one.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe resources here will help in understanding the definition quoted
>>>>> above:
>>>>> www.hookedonphonics.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **I suggest you read this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t
>>
>> **Just a reminder:
>>
>> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t


**And again:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#690145

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-06-11 21:06 -0400
Message-ID<bu6uhdlsb3ps74l7mkpn49njvrp79542s0@4ax.com>
In reply to#690132
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:51:38 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 12/06/2018 9:42 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:23:33 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/06/2018 11:07 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:52:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/06/2018 10:32 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:12:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/06/2018 8:51 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:17:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>>>>>>>>> links:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>>>>>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>>>>>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>>>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>>>>>>>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>>>>>>>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>>>>>>>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>>>>>>>>> 2002)."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>>>>>>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>>>>>>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>>>>>>>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>>>>>>>>> "climate change?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **Strawman duly noted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't have selective indignation, do you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go rail at Kensi for this post:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:53:39 -0400
>>>>>>>> :>Researchers raised concerns years before Grand Forks flood
>>>>>>>> :>about climate change effects on West Kettle River
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>>>>>>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... while you are waiting, consider:
>>>>>
>>>>> **Perhaps you missed my question. I'll re-ask it:
>>>>>
>>>>> **Did Kensi go completely off-topic like you just did? Examine the
>>>>> header and see if you can figure out why your post is a strawman. I'll wait.
>>>>
>>>> You said you were going to wait ...
>>>>
>>>> ... did you lie?
>>>
>>> **Nope. I'm STILL waiting.
>>>
>>> Let me remind you: YOU are the liar here. We both know it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Kensi's post might have been on topic in alt.FUD or sci.hydrology, but
>>>>>> it wasn't on topic in sci.physics.
>>>>>
>>>>> **I don't give a flying fuck. YOU posted the stawman. YOU burn it down.
>>>
>>> **Good to see that you've burned your own strawman down. Try to do
>>> better next time.
>> 
>> What?!
>
>**Having difficulties locating the correct punctuation keys?

"Both-and" makes the heads of greenies 'splode in their
black-and-white world of "either-or."

>> 
>> Maybe you just read more of the post this time wherein your selective
>> indignation may have been showing.
>
>**Nope. Just pointing out your strawman. Nothing more.

You said it was burned down in your last post.

Did you lie?

 
>>>>>>>>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **"ALL the time"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/all+the+time
>>>>>>>> 3. Fig. repeatedly; habitually.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe some fifth-graders in Oz didn't learn about idioms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **OK, so you lied when you made that claim. I accept that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It wasn't offered.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Doesn't matter. I can recognise a liar. You are one.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe resources here will help in understanding the definition quoted
>>>>>> above:
>>>>>> www.hookedonphonics.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **I suggest you read this:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t
>>>
>>> **Just a reminder:
>>>
>>> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t
>
>
>**And again:
>
>http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liar?s=t

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#690001

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-11 11:29 -0400
Message-ID<QzwTC.236356$go7.4535@fx08.iad>
In reply to#689925
On 6/10/2018 6:17 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions 
>>>>>>>>>> are caused
>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>
>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>
>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>> links:
>>>>
>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>
>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>
>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>> paper.
>>
>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>
>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>
>>  From the peer-reviewed paper:
>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>> 2002)."
>>
>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>
>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>> "climate change?"
> 
> **Strawman duly noted.
> 
>>
>> They do it all the time, you know.
> 
> **"ALL the time"?
> 
> Prove it.

Trevor is an idiot even by Oz standards. Here for example is rock-hard 
proof of the science behind volcanoes being caused by climate change.

"How Climate Change Leads to Volcanoes (Really)"
http://time.com/3687893/volcanoes-climate-change/

Clearly given Trevor's "cites" of such science powerhouses as scientific 
American, Business Insider, and Noo Yawk Times, there can be NO DOUBT 
that an article in TIME MAGAZINE is scientific proof beyond ANY QUESTION 
that my theory that Trevor calls "insane" is absolutely TRUE!!!

How can Trevor be stupid enough to try to argue with a credible source 
like TIME? All he has is bluster and name-calling like any puerile 
propagandist.

Trevor you are Defeated by your own methods! When you start calling the 
world-class journalism at Time "insane" any credibility you ever had is 
GONE!!

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#690055

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-11 12:31 -0700
Message-ID<2130c9ca-a97a-4f4b-8b14-a471adf46ec4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690001
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 8:29:56 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 6/10/2018 6:17 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> > On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> >> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions 
> >>>>>>>>>> are caused
> >>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html 
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can you use Google?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/ 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
> >>>>> scientific article.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
> >>>> links:
> >>>>
> >>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
> >>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
> >>>> Published: November 16, 2017
> >>>>
> >>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
> >>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
> >>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
> >>>> America (GSA).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
> >>>
> >>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
> >>> paper.
> >>
> >> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
> >>
> >> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
> >>
> >>  From the peer-reviewed paper:
> >> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
> >> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
> >> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
> >> 2002)."
> >>
> >>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
> >>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
> >>> doing so as a result of global warming.
> >>
> >> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
> >> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
> >> "climate change?"
> > 
> > **Strawman duly noted.
> > 
> >>
> >> They do it all the time, you know.
> > 
> > **"ALL the time"?
> > 
> > Prove it.
> 
> Trevor is an idiot even by Oz standards. Here for example is rock-hard 
> proof of the science behind volcanoes being caused by climate change.
> 
> "How Climate Change Leads to Volcanoes (Really)"
> http://time.com/3687893/volcanoes-climate-change/
> 
> Clearly given Trevor's "cites" of such science powerhouses as scientific 
> American, Business Insider, and Noo Yawk Times, there can be NO DOUBT 
> that an article in TIME MAGAZINE is scientific proof beyond ANY QUESTION 
> that my theory that Trevor calls "insane" is absolutely TRUE!!!
> 
> How can Trevor be stupid enough to try to argue with a credible source 
> like TIME? All he has is bluster and name-calling like any puerile 
> propagandist.
> 
> Trevor you are Defeated by your own methods! When you start calling the 
> world-class journalism at Time "insane" any credibility you ever had is 
> GONE!!

Iceland gives reality how heat,steam from volcanoes create weather all the way to UK  Bert

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#690070

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-06-11 13:40 -0700
Message-ID<pfmmps$maq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#690055
CretinBert, the Failure,  <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
Bert failed the DMV tests and did not get his Driver's License
renewed, and so MoronBert was forced to have chauffeurs
to drive PigBert around. Pity.
>
Con-SwineGlazier continued:
Sandy is taken me out this Weekend to look at
new sports cars. I have to look like money for I'm
doing a thing with Manure&Maggots (M&M). Bert
>
So, Glazier you filthy and kinky Swine, how come
you post heaps of stupid shit all day!?

Your Manure&Maggots shied the sports-car dealer
away, and more so, Sandy didn’t even show up,
but gave you the cold shoulder, like shed did before!!!
Pity

>

hmmm...<snicker> <chuckle> <chortle> ROTFLMAO


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#690091

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-11 17:28 -0400
Message-ID<QPBTC.220843$o43.119387@fx33.iad>
In reply to#690055
On 6/11/2018 3:31 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 8:29:56 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>> On 6/10/2018 6:17 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 11/06/2018 7:00 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:26:41 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions
>>>>>>>>>>>> are caused
>>>>>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>>>>>> scientific article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>>>>>> links:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>>>>>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>>>>>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>>>>>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>>>>>> America (GSA).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
>>>>>
>>>>> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed
>>>>> paper.
>>>>
>>>> What more than a hypothesis do you expect from a scientific paper?
>>>>
>>>> Certainty is the stuff of math -- in a created, constrained context.
>>>>
>>>>   From the peer-reviewed paper:
>>>> "The link between large-scale ice mass decline and an increase in
>>>> volcanic eruptions at the end of the last glacial period, ca. 12 ka,
>>>> is well established (Jull and McKenzie, 1996; Maclennan et al.,
>>>> 2002)."
>>>>
>>>>> There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory.
>>>>> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is
>>>>> doing so as a result of global warming.
>>>>
>>>> ... but it is okay when greenie alarmists claim a particular "extreme
>>>> weather" event or the strength of a particular hurricane is due to
>>>> "climate change?"
>>>
>>> **Strawman duly noted.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> They do it all the time, you know.
>>>
>>> **"ALL the time"?
>>>
>>> Prove it.
>>
>> Trevor is an idiot even by Oz standards. Here for example is rock-hard
>> proof of the science behind volcanoes being caused by climate change.
>>
>> "How Climate Change Leads to Volcanoes (Really)"
>> http://time.com/3687893/volcanoes-climate-change/
>>
>> Clearly given Trevor's "cites" of such science powerhouses as scientific
>> American, Business Insider, and Noo Yawk Times, there can be NO DOUBT
>> that an article in TIME MAGAZINE is scientific proof beyond ANY QUESTION
>> that my theory that Trevor calls "insane" is absolutely TRUE!!!
>>
>> How can Trevor be stupid enough to try to argue with a credible source
>> like TIME? All he has is bluster and name-calling like any puerile
>> propagandist.
>>
>> Trevor you are Defeated by your own methods! When you start calling the
>> world-class journalism at Time "insane" any credibility you ever had is
>> GONE!!
> 
> Iceland gives reality how heat,steam from volcanoes create weather all the way to UK  Bert
> 
Bert, Climate change causes melting ice, rising seas, more UFO sighting, 
it ALL causes more and more volcanoes to erupt. This is a given!

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#690000

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-11 11:13 -0400
Message-ID<gkwTC.220460$o43.29761@fx33.iad>
In reply to#689913
On 6/10/2018 4:26 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 10/06/2018 1:43 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:28:45 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are 
>>>>>>>> caused
>>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>>>
>>>> Can you use Google?
>>>
>>> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>>>
>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
>>>
>>> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed
>>> scientific article.
>>
>> Then perhaps you would like to read a source paper from one of my
>> links:
>>
>> Geology (2017) 46 (1): 47-50.
>> DOI: https://doi.org/10.1130/G39633.1
>> Published: November 16, 2017
>>
>> This is one article mentioned in my links.
>>
>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>> The findings, published in the journal Geology,
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_(journal)>
>> Geology is a peer-reviewed publication of the Geological Society of
>> America (GSA).
>>
>>
>> What are you going to do now that you have what you asked for?
> 
> **What I see, from your links is an HYPOTHESIS. Not a peer-reviwed 
> paper. There is ZERO current evidence to prove benj's insane theory. 
> There is ZERO evidence to show that any PRESENTLY ERUPTING volcano is 
> doing so as a result of global warming.
> 
>>
>> Why did you ask for it?
> 
> **Because the peer-review process is robust and the best system we have.
> 
>>
>> Are you going to withdraw your charge of insanity?
> 
> *Not a chance. benj is a scientific ignoramus.
> 
>>
>> How many times have we seen a preponderance of evidence provoke a
>> greenie to ask a question intended to prop up the "uncertainty" part
>> of their FUD mission ... when they weren't playing the tautology game
>> or flat out lying.
> 
> **Dunno. You tell me.
> 
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Some here seem to have lost respect for them, but do you want to call
>>>> Scientific American insane?
>>>
>>> **Just benj.
>>
>> So it's a personal issue, supported by neither science nor religion?
> 
> **Nope. An observation, based on benj's inability to separate science 
> from stupidity.
> 
> 
I'm not the one quoting Scientific American or the New York times as 
some kind of "scientific proof" of your insane global warming disasters.

That's pretty dumb even by Aussi standards.

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#689664

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-09 12:17 -0400
Message-ID<O4TSC.137719$RI2.98985@fx26.iad>
In reply to#689629
On 6/9/2018 5:28 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 9/06/2018 4:15 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:34:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/06/2018 6:43 AM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/2018 2:35 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:23:19 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are 
>>>>>> caused
>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.space.com/40794-fuego-volcano-eruption-satellite-photos.html 
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Reality is volcanoes can create weather change.Bert
>>>>>
>>>> And Climate change can create volcanic eruptions! That is a given.
>>>
>>> **Cite your peer-reviewed science to support your insane claim.
>>
>> Can you use Google?
> 
> **Sure. Can you? Can benj? Obviously not.
> 
>>
>> There is no shortage of FUD like this:
>>
>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/get-ready-for-more-volcanic-eruptions-as-the-planet-warms/ 
>>
>>
>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171123095405.htm
>>
>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/946883/volcano-eruption-global-warming-climate-change-melting-ice-caps-mount-meager 
>>
>>
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/volcano-eruptions-increase-japan-philippines-warming-climate-glacial-retreat-2018-1 
>>
>>
>> ... b .. bu ... but ... those aren't peer reviewed.
> 
> **Then why would you imagine I am interested in a non peer-reviewed 
> scientific article.
> 
>>
>> Some here seem to have lost respect for them, but do you want to call
>> Scientific American insane?
> 
> **Just benj.

Trevor the pro propagandist tries to use the former reputation of 
Scientific American (when it still had science and wasn't a propaganda 
rag for globalist schemes) to sell his "global warming" fraud to try to 
grab that big energy tax. He uses every trick in the book, but still is 
pretty transparent. Call me some more names Trevor!  Now that's a good boy!

Note you cannot actually discuss science with a strategic writer. They 
have an agenda and everything they say true or lies serves that agenda.
Simple as that.

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#689818

FromLofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-09 20:00 -0500
Message-ID<tltohd9kj28fu7ijv9avqtjrfbk3m9q090@4ax.com>
In reply to#688873
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:22:57 -0400, benj wrote:

> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused 
> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>
> Another "deadly" volcano goes off in Guatemala!

Lava eruptions caused by climate change?  Ben, I acknowledge (without
understanding) the joy you find in winding people up, but this time
you're really reaching.  Are you off your game just a bit lately?

-- 
Goat

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