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Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children!

Started bybenj <benj@nobody.net>
First post2018-05-31 02:37 -0400
Last post2018-06-03 09:06 -0700
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  Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:37 -0400
    Re:Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:16 +0200
      Re: Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 03:51 -0400
    Slaughtering concert goers. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-31 05:22 -0700
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 12:06 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 10:02 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 15:49 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-31 20:12 +0000
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:20 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 16:37 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 19:57 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 17:12 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:38 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:32 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:42 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:54 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:22 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:36 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:07 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:31 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:47 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 08:50 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 22:53 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:39 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:16 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:29 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:43 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:33 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0400
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-05-31 19:49 -0500
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-05-31 17:51 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:26 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:39 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:13 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 03:21 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:46 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 08:12 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 08:27 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 11:59 -0700
                      Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ Slaughtering concert goers. ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ðŸķįŽ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-01 14:07 -0500
                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 18:50 -0700
                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:00 -0700
                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:29 -0700
                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:47 -0700
                                  Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:18 -0700
                                    Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 09:14 -0700
                                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:48 -0700
                                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:28 -0700
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:14 -0400
                                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                  Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ðŸķįŽ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-02 08:15 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 12:30 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 17:09 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:37 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:00 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:14 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:09 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:48 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 04:53 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:11 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:12 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 00:47 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:05 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:31 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:01 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:39 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:16 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:14 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:35 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:19 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:40 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:26 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:36 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:32 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:03 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:26 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:01 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:08 -0500
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:40 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:35 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:15 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:53 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:09 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:51 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:12 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 04:54 +0000
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:00 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 05:06 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:09 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:54 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                            The Supreme Court got it wrong. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:51 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 11:59 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:43 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:25 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:28 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:08 -0600
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 23:24 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:12 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:37 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:48 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:00 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:32 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 21:38 -0400
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:49 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:49 +0000
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:45 -0700
                                        Permission to breath ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 19:10 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:13 -0700
                                            Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-06-02 20:36 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:53 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 23:33 -0400
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:57 -0400
                                                    Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:08 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                            Clarity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-03 08:52 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:46 +0000
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:53 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 22:59 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 23:19 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 09:10 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:31 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:12 +0000
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:26 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:37 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:10 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:54 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 22:19 -0500
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:58 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 00:24 -0400
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 07:17 +0000
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:21 -0700
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 16:07 +0000
                                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:30 -0700
                                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:32 +0000
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:34 -0700
                                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:50 -0700
                                                      "Natural Rights" aren't always wonderful. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 19:02 -0700
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:49 -0700
                                                  Depressed Losers, slaughtering consert goers, is "natural" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:21 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 02:18 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:25 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:38 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:16 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:46 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:53 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-02 01:20 -0400
                        Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:27 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:14 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:38 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:57 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:29 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:57 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:25 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:53 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:29 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:09 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 21:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:32 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:59 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:02 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:03 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:38 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:53 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:16 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:33 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:38 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 13:17 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:21 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:40 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:47 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:57 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:05 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:13 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:40 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:39 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:54 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:01 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:02 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:13 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:39 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:54 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:05 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:41 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:07 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:14 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:21 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-03 20:11 -0500
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:43 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:45 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:40 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 12:03 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 12:05 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 00:47 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:11 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:13 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:21 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 20:37 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:11 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 17:59 -0400
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 15:05 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:27 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:44 -0400
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:42 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:27 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:47 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-04 23:47 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:51 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:19 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 09:37 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:51 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:18 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:32 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:35 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:48 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 07:48 -0500
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:27 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:30 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 08:55 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:32 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:34 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:54 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:51 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:45 -0500
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:15 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:41 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:11 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:17 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:50 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:01 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:32 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:06 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 05:15 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0500
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:11 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:30 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:54 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:42 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:50 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:07 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:25 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:37 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:51 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:00 -0500
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 06:26 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:28 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:27 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:07 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:44 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:19 -0600
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:23 -0600
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 20:31 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 22:09 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 23:48 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:47 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:44 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:10 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:19 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 23:53 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:57 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:22 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ðŸķįŽ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-04 02:48 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:58 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:19 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 20:56 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:26 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:45 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 01:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:00 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:45 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:48 -0500
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:15 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 15:20 -0500
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:55 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:34 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:52 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:57 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:52 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 20:14 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:29 -0500
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:20 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:16 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 06:25 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:30 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:32 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:34 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:07 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:27 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 17:07 -0600
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 16:18 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 16:46 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 17:04 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:13 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 20:16 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:41 -0500
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 02:29 -0600
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:50 -0500
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:41 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:38 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 10:01 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 12:55 -0500
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 07:58 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 11:56 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-05 14:58 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 12:17 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:02 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:45 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 14:51 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:56 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:02 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:47 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:51 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-05 22:44 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:04 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:50 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:05 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:11 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:20 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:42 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:46 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:46 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:15 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:45 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:13 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:36 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:07 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:01 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:08 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:29 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:02 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:07 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:52 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-09 02:13 -0400
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 23:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 06:22 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:16 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 08:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:50 +0000
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 09:23 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:51 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 10:29 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 21:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 14:33 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 14:54 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 14:56 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:04 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:02 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 13:42 -0600
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:32 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 16:24 -0600
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 17:31 -0600
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 23:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:57 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:59 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:07 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:31 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                      Truth Avoidance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:11 -0700
                                                                        Re: Truth Avoidance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 10:09 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:20 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:31 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 18:41 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 17:08 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 17:11 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:32 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:53 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 00:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 02:01 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:03 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:20 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:33 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:11 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-07 05:56 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 22:05 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:05 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:46 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:23 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:26 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:09 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:52 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:08 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:18 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:14 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 11:55 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:07 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:50 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:12 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:56 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:07 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:38 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:57 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:45 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:18 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:17 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:10 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:01 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:36 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:51 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:39 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 13:29 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 11:09 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 17:20 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 14:35 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:08 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:26 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:42 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:32 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:37 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 17:57 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:30 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:51 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:32 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:09 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:12 -0600
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:53 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:59 -0600
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:02 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:24 -0600
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:01 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 19:51 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:56 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 20:21 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:24 -0700
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#689107 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 20:46 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnp3oaFbpqgU40@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689081
On 6/5/18 7:42 PM, Scout wrote:
...
>> The whole debate has gone on so long and with so many trying to twist 
>> things and change topics who knows what any of it is about any more.
>>
>> I will just stick with my view unless I see good contrary evidence.
> 
> stand by for contrary evidence.....again.
> 
>> * The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
>>   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
>>   action".
> 
> "At the time of the founding, as now, to “bear” meant to “carry.” See 
> Johnson 161; Webster; T. Sheridan, A Complete Dictionary of the English 
> Language (1796); 2 Oxford English Dictionary 20 (2d ed. 1989) 
> (hereinafter Oxford). When used with “arms,” however, the term has a 
> meaning that refers to carrying for a particular purpose—confrontation. 
> In Muscarello v. United States, 524 U. S. 125 (1998) , in the course of 
> analyzing the meaning of “carries a firearm” in a federal criminal 
> statute, Justice Ginsburg wrote that “[s]urely a most familiar meaning 
> is, as the Constitution’s Second Amendment â€Ķ indicate[s]: ‘wear, bear, 
> or carry â€Ķ upon the person or in the clothing or in a pocket, for the 
> purpose â€Ķ of being armed and ready for offensive or defensive action in 
> a case of conflict with another person.’ ” Id., at 143 (dissenting 
> opinion) (quoting Black’s Law Dictionary 214 (6th ed. 1998)). We think 
> that Justice Ginsburg accurately captured the natural meaning of “bear 
> arms.” Although the phrase implies that the carrying of the weapon is 
> for the purpose of “offensive or defensive action,” it in no way 
> connotes participation in a structured military organization."

This is looking at each word, not the phrase. As you have been shown 
that is not how "bear arms" was used.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
-----
A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era 
American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, 
yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early 
Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 
1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, 
that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th 
and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or 
organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural 
meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military. But we 
shouldn’t need big data to tell us this. “Bear arms” has never worked 
comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or 
target practice.
-----

In short: you are playing word games.

People have accused me of that, saying I should look at the phrase "keep 
and bear arms"... and I am open to people showing how that phrase was used.

> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER (No. 07-290)
> 478 F. 3d 370, affirmed.

We have covered this as well: I do not deny that in 2008 there was a 
controversial 5:4 decision which FOR THE FIRST TIME went with that view.

First time.

The fact you have NO case law before 2008 to back your view supports my 
view that this is a new interpretation. It is often called a "landmark 
decision" because of being the first to offer this interpretation.

Most scholars do NOT see this as the historic meaning of the second 
amendment.

1) 
https://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2792&context=lawreview

| First, the second amendment was passed as an
| assurance to the states that they would have the
| right to maintain their own militias. Such
| militias were to be used as the centerpiece of the
| nation's military power, as an alternative to a
| large standing army, as a tool for the states to
| ensure public order, and as a means for the states
| to defend against the encroachment of federal
| power.
|
| Second, the second amendment does not operate as a
| restraint on the states. It acts as a restraint on the
| federal government.
|
| Third, there is no substantial historical evidence for
| the claim that the second amendment guarantees an
| individual right to have arms for any purpose other
| than participation in a state-regulated militia.
|
| Fourth, as long as federal gun laws do not adversely
| affect the organized state militias, these laws should
| encounter no second amendment problems.
|
| Fifth, because the state militias no longer rely on
| the use of privately-owned firearms by their active
| members, federal regulation of private gun ownership
| poses no threat to state militias, and therefore
| raises no constitutional issue. This is demonstrated
| by the remarkable unanimity of federal and state
| courts in upholding the constitutional validity of
| firearms laws against second amendment challenges.

2) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1105369

| This article argues that the second amendment was
| initially proposed and passed in response to some
| antifederalist fears of a standing army. The
| thrust of the Amendment was to prevent the
| national government from disarming the state
| militias. Similarly, the Amendment allowed the
| states to arm their own militias if Congress
| failed to do so under its Article I, Section 8
| powers. The article notes that Madison and other
| Federalists who wrote the Second Amendment were
| fully aware of demands for an amendment to protect
| an individual's right to own weapons, and that the
| framers of the Second Amendment emphatically
| rejected this concept.

3) https://famguardian.org/Subjects/GunControl/Research/Reviews/rwstand.htm

| The contemporary meaning of the Second Amendment
| is the same as it was at the time of its adoption.
| The federal government may regulate the National
| Guard, but may not disarm it against the will of
| state legislatures. Nothing in the Second
| Amendment, however, precludes Congress or the
| states from requiring licensing and registration
| of firearms; in fact, there is nothing to stop an
| outright congressional ban on private ownership of
| all handguns and all rifles.

4) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Papers.cfm?abstract_id=1465114

| Professor Bogus argues that there is strong reason
| to believe that, in significant part, James
| Madison drafted the Second Amendment to assure his
| constituents in Virginia, and the South generally,
| that Congress could not use its newly-acquired
| powers to indirectly undermine the slave system by
| disarming the militia, on which the South relied
| for slave control.

>> * Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
>>   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
>>   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
>>   a hard sale to say they were against the second
>>   amendment.
> 
> I have not seen any law in existence which impacted either the keeping 
> of arms or the bearing of arms by the federal government until into the 
> 20th Century.

We have, even now, MANY laws which restrict people from owning arms. I 
am not, for example, allowed to have a dirty bomb or ricin, and there 
are many restrictions on dynamite.

There was also the 1934 National Firearms Act which had many limits on 
guns, specifically. It did have some provisions challenged but overall 
was accepted. In 1938 there was the Federal Firearms Act which required 
licenses for many who made, imported, or sold guns. It also infringed on 
the right to own ANY gun for convicted felons. This was repealed in 1968 
but many of the provisions STILL stand. For example, convicted felons 
still cannot own guns.

> It should be noted that state and local laws of this nature may have 
> existed but since BOR was a restraint on the federal government rather 
> than state or local governments, and specifically the 2nd Amendment was 
> not such a restraint until the 14th Amendment incorporation in McDonald 
> vs. City of Chicago.

> As such the existence of such laws in lower levels of government would 
> not support any contention that such laws were permissible under the 2nd 
> Amendment had it applied to such levels of government. I would note that 
> similar violations of the other portions of the BOR occurred and was a 
> fundamental reason for the ratification of the 14th Amendment to apply 
> the protection of such rights to all levels of government once such 
> protection was incorporated by SCOTUS as was done with the 2nd in 2010.
> 
> Therefore this argument proves nothing about the extent of the 
> protections afforded by the 2nd Amendment and what would have been seen 
> as permissible or objectionable if done by the federal government in the 
> time period around the time of ratification.
> 
> 
> But again let's defer to the relevant experts.
> 
> " We now address how the Second Amendment was interpreted from 
> immediately after its ratification through the end of the 19th century. 
> Before proceeding, however, we take issue with Justice Stevens’ equating 
> of these sources with postenactment legislative history, a comparison 
> that betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of a court’s interpretive 
> task. See post, at 27, n. 28. “Legislative history,” of course, refers 
> to the pre-enactment statements of those who drafted or voted for a law; 
> it is considered persuasive by some, not because they reflect the 
> general understanding of the disputed terms, but because the legislators 
> who heard or read those statements presumably voted with that 
> understanding. Ibid. “Postenactment legislative history,” ibid., a 
> deprecatory contradiction in terms, refers to statements of those who 
> drafted or voted for the law that are made after its enactment and hence 
> could have had no effect on the congressional vote. It most certainly 
> does not refer to the examination of a variety of legal and other 
> sources to determine the public understanding of a legal text in the 
> period after its enactment or ratification. That sort of inquiry is a 
> critical tool of constitutional interpretation. As we will show, 
> virtually all interpreters of the Second Amendment in the century after 
> its enactment interpreted the amendment as we do."
> (Ibid)

The controversial 5:4 decision was already discussed -- hence why you 
did not provide a source for your quote. You are playing games.

>> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>>   the states rights view.
> 
> I suspect that's because of your bias towards looking at scholars who 
> say what you want to hear.

I have repeatedly been clear of how I did my search and have welcomed 
you to do the same search:

<https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=second+amendment+history>

> But let's see what the scholars who matter think.

You left the topic behind and went from scholars to court cases, which 
are NOT the same thing. Yes, you can say the lawyers are scholars but 
that is more word play on your part.

...

>> * We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
>>   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
>>   laws.
> 
> The NRA has no control over our laws.

This has been shown to be false repeatedly. And note how your "rebuttal" 
is merely to push straw men and play more word games.

> They can not introduce, debate, 
> amend or even vote on any legislation. They are not an elected 
> representative to any position in any level of government.

Nobody said, suggested, hinted, or implied any of that. You are, as 
noted, playing word games. This shows you know you have no counter. Fair 
enough.

> Further I would note that per your own arguments we shouldn't allow the 
> antigun groups to do so either since they similarly benefit from mass 
> shootings and terrorism.

I do not want ANY group to be paying off politicians, directly or not: 
this includes the NRA, corporations, Planned Parenthood, unions, or 
ANYONE else.

>> * We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
>>   arms... what one could call "infringements".
> 
> Yes, and SCOTUS has been in the process of tearing down these 
> infringements since DC vs. Heller and McDonald vs City of Chicago.

When do you think felons will lose such infringements? When do you think 
they should?

>> * We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
>>   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
>>   else that is tied to death and injuries.
> 
> To what end? To blame an inanimate object for the actions of the person 
> using it?

To what end: the same end as we do with cars and roads and pools and 
food and air and water and pretty much everything else: to reduce harm 
and death. This seems so self-evidence that it is hard to believe you 
are doing anything else other than playing more of your games.

>> * I back evidence-based policies.
> 
> Then when are you going to start doing so:?

Loaded question. This is another example of your use of logical 
fallacies and game play.

> I would note that all your issues, arguments, and questions were asked 
> and addressed by SCOTUS. I suggest you read their ruling which will 
> provide you with cites, references and sources for further research and 
> proof of what you're asking to see as far as the application of the 2nd 
> Amendment to the individual right to keep and bear arms for non-military 
> uses.
> 
> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html
> 
> You asked for good contrary evidence. I've now supplied it. Until you 
> can refute the information contained with the ruling by SCOTUS I will 
> consider your views refuted.

I easily refute your comments. Not even a challenge. But, it is easy to 
predict, you will STILL claim my views are "refuted" no matter how 
trivial it was to show your claims to be so heavily tied to word games 
and logical fallacies and ignorance.

My favorite is your denial of federal laws which restrict "bearing arms" 
-- even if we go with the new definition of this, felons generally 
cannot legally own or use guns. This is, of course, an infringement and 
one that did not exist at the start of the country and is a federal law.


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#689068 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-05 21:46 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf7f00$g93$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689010

"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
news:fnompoFbpqgU25@mid.individual.net...
> On 6/5/18 3:50 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is likely 
>>>>> to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>>
>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>
>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong
>
> There are cases where you need to defend yourself. But notice how Scout 
> jumps repeatedly to those very rare cases and ignores the bigger picture. 
> He is twisting context and meaning.

Violent crime is rare?

Oh, well in that case we don't need gun control then, since according to you 
violent crime is so rare that we need not concern ourselves with it.

 

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#689072 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 19:15 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnoue6FbpqgU39@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689068
On 6/5/18 6:46 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
> news:fnompoFbpqgU25@mid.individual.net...
>> On 6/5/18 3:50 PM, % wrote:
>>> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it 
>>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to 
>>>>>> say you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your 
>>>>>> "solution" is likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a 
>>>>>> good solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>>
>>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong
>>
>> There are cases where you need to defend yourself. But notice how 
>> Scout jumps repeatedly to those very rare cases and ignores the bigger 
>> picture. He is twisting context and meaning.
> 
> Violent crime is rare?

It is less common than instances of NOT having violent crime. 
Absolutely. And the numbers are going down.

Does not mean the numbers are not concerning, but in looking at the big 
picture picking just times when a violent crime is happening to someone 
is very clearly cherry picking to push your agenda.

> Oh, well in that case we don't need gun control then, since according to 
> you violent crime is so rare that we need not concern ourselves with it.

Another fine example of lying about my views... and of pushing an absurd 
idea that crime is the only health issue around guns.

I would prefer if you would be honest.


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#689067 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-05 21:45 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf7f00$g93$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#688982

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:bb3pl0.bua.17.3@news.alt.net...
> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>> class
>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you want 
>>>> a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is likely to 
>>>> lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>
>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>
>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>
>>
>>
> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong

Apparently, according to you, the victims of violent crime deserve what 
happened to them because according to you they did something wrong.

Meanwhile, I note that, in general, the victims of violent crime are guilty 
of one thing only being alive.
 

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#689071 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 19:13 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnouaiFrfodU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689067
On 6/5/18 6:45 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:bb3pl0.bua.17.3@news.alt.net...
>> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it 
>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say 
>>>>> you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>>
>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>
>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong
> 
> Apparently, according to you, the victims of violent crime deserve what 
> happened to them because according to you they did something wrong.

You recently asked for examples of where you lie about what I say. GREAT 
EXAMPLE!

Thanks, I suppose.

> Meanwhile, I note that, in general, the victims of violent crime are 
> guilty of one thing only being alive.

Why do you associate guilt with that?


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#689106 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-05 23:36 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf7ksc$acu$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689071

"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
news:fnouaiFrfodU2@mid.individual.net...
> On 6/5/18 6:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:bb3pl0.bua.17.3@news.alt.net...
>>> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>>>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>>>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>>
>>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong
>>
>> Apparently, according to you, the victims of violent crime deserve what 
>> happened to them because according to you they did something wrong.
>
> You recently asked for examples of where you lie about what I say. GREAT 
> EXAMPLE!

Please note that the program "Snit" now claims to also be the poster "%"


 

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#689122 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 21:07 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnp4vpFbpqgU46@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689106
On 6/5/18 8:36 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
> news:fnouaiFrfodU2@mid.individual.net...
>> On 6/5/18 6:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:bb3pl0.bua.17.3@news.alt.net...
>>>> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS 
>>>>>>>>> in class
>>>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are 
>>>>>>>> trapped, would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it 
>>>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to 
>>>>>>> say you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your 
>>>>>>> "solution" is likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a 
>>>>>>> good solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>>>
>>>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong
>>>
>>> Apparently, according to you, the victims of violent crime deserve 
>>> what happened to them because according to you they did something wrong.
>>
>> You recently asked for examples of where you lie about what I say. 
>> GREAT EXAMPLE!
> 
> Please note that the program "Snit" now claims to also be the poster "%"

Ah, my mistake: you lied about someone else's comments in addition to 
lying about mine.

-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

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#689008 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 17:01 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnomj9FbpqgU24@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688980
On 6/5/18 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>
>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>
>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>
>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
> 
> So self defense only works if you kill something?

See: another twist from you. You repeatedly do that. Then you ask us to 
accept YOUR view of the second amendment over that of the scholars and 
the common historic understanding of it (your view was not put into law 
until 2008, and then by judges and not legislatures).

Weird.


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#689082 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf7igk$vlv$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689008

"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
news:fnomj9FbpqgU24@mid.individual.net...
> On 6/5/18 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>> class
>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you want 
>>>> a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is likely to 
>>>> lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>
>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>
>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>
> See: another twist from you. You repeatedly do that.

Do what? Accept what he said at face value?

Are you saying he didn't know what he was talking about?

>Then you ask us to accept YOUR view of the second amendment over that of 
>the scholars and the common historic understanding of it (your view was not 
>put into law until 2008, and then by judges and not legislatures).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html

Sorry, but as SCOTUS shows the court has consistently held the 2nd protects 
an individual right.

After all, if the 2nd didn't apply to individuals...then why wasn't Miller's 
defense rejected by SCOTUS since in your interpretation an individual such 
as Miller wouldn't have the standing to claim the 2nd Amendment in his 
defense. However, not only did Miller have standing to use the 2nd Amendment 
the court ruled the case in a manner that the 2nd does apply to individuals. 
Miller was decided in 1939...that nearly SEVEN DECADES before you claim that 
an 'individual interpretation' was adopted.

No, sir, you clearly have not researched the issues, nor have you examined 
the multitude of cites which the Court provided in Heller showing a regular 
and consistent interpretation that the 2nd does apply to individuals.

Interesting how you wish to assert you know all there is, but you apparently 
utterly lack even the minimal knowledge that would indicate your claim about 
the Heller case is nonsense. The individual interpretation has ALWAYS been 
put into law. Now the Court often stated that the 2nd didn't apply to the 
states (prior to the 14th Amendment) or that the 2nd didn't apply because it 
hadn't yet been incorporated by SCOTUS, but that's a far different manner 
than saying it never applied to individuals until 2008.

"The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates 
in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and 
the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the 
Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the 
common defense. "A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline." And 
further, that ordinarily, when called for service these men were expected to 
appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at 
the time."

307 U.S. 174

United States v. Miller (No. 696)


Clearly the court is stating that individuals have the right to keep and 
bear arms, otherwise, how could they appear bearing arms they supplied????

So delude yourself if you like, but don't think for a moment the facts are 
on your side, because they aren't.

I've provided enough cites to prove that, and now it's a question of whether 
you have the honesty to look at the evidence that refutes your position.
 

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#689109 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnp3poFbpqgU41@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689082
On 6/5/18 7:55 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
> news:fnomj9FbpqgU24@mid.individual.net...
>> On 6/5/18 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it 
>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say 
>>>>> you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>>
>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>
>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>
>> See: another twist from you. You repeatedly do that.
> 
> Do what? Accept what he said at face value?
> 
> Are you saying he didn't know what he was talking about?
> 
>> Then you ask us to accept YOUR view of the second amendment over that 
>> of the scholars and the common historic understanding of it (your view 
>> was not put into law until 2008, and then by judges and not 
>> legislatures).
> 
> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html
> 
> Sorry, but as SCOTUS shows the court has consistently held the 2nd 
> protects an individual right.
> 
> After all, if the 2nd didn't apply to individuals...then why wasn't 
> Miller's defense rejected by SCOTUS since in your interpretation an 
> individual such as Miller wouldn't have the standing to claim the 2nd 
> Amendment in his defense. However, not only did Miller have standing to 
> use the 2nd Amendment the court ruled the case in a manner that the 2nd 
> does apply to individuals. Miller was decided in 1939...that nearly 
> SEVEN DECADES before you claim that an 'individual interpretation' was 
> adopted.
> 
> No, sir, you clearly have not researched the issues, nor have you 
> examined the multitude of cites which the Court provided in Heller 
> showing a regular and consistent interpretation that the 2nd does apply 
> to individuals.
> 
> Interesting how you wish to assert you know all there is, but you 
> apparently utterly lack even the minimal knowledge that would indicate 
> your claim about the Heller case is nonsense. The individual 
> interpretation has ALWAYS been put into law. Now the Court often stated 
> that the 2nd didn't apply to the states (prior to the 14th Amendment) or 
> that the 2nd didn't apply because it hadn't yet been incorporated by 
> SCOTUS, but that's a far different manner than saying it never applied 
> to individuals until 2008.
> 
> "The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the 
> debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and 
> States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly 
> enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting 
> in concert for the common defense. "A body of citizens enrolled for 
> military discipline." And further, that ordinarily, when called for 
> service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by 
> themselves and of the kind in common use at the time."
> 
> 307 U.S. 174
> 
> United States v. Miller (No. 696)
> 
> 
> Clearly the court is stating that individuals have the right to keep and 
> bear arms, otherwise, how could they appear bearing arms they supplied????
> 
> So delude yourself if you like, but don't think for a moment the facts 
> are on your side, because they aren't.
> 
> I've provided enough cites to prove that, and now it's a question of 
> whether you have the honesty to look at the evidence that refutes your 
> position.
> 
> 

What part of the above do you think has not been beaten to death and 
refuted?

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

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#689600 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-08 21:08 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pffk0k$bop$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689109
In news:fnp3poFbpqgU41@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/5/18 7:55 PM, Scout wrote:
>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>> news:fnomj9FbpqgU24@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 6/5/18 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>> teachers!

>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:

>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986

>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.

>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS
>>>>>>>> in class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.

>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are
>>>>>>> trapped, would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?

>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it
>>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to
>>>>>> say you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your
>>>>>> "solution" is likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a
>>>>>> good solution.

>>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something

>>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?

>>> See: another twist from you. You repeatedly do that.

>> Do what? Accept what he said at face value?

>> Are you saying he didn't know what he was talking about?

>>> Then you ask us to accept YOUR view of the second amendment over
>>> that of the scholars and the common historic understanding of it
>>> (your view was not put into law until 2008, and then by judges and
>>> not legislatures).

>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html

>> Sorry, but as SCOTUS shows the court has consistently held the 2nd
>> protects an individual right.

>> After all, if the 2nd didn't apply to individuals...then why wasn't
>> Miller's defense rejected by SCOTUS since in your interpretation an
>> individual such as Miller wouldn't have the standing to claim the 2nd
>> Amendment in his defense. However, not only did Miller have standing
>> to use the 2nd Amendment the court ruled the case in a manner that
>> the 2nd does apply to individuals. Miller was decided in 1939...that nearly
>> SEVEN DECADES before you claim that an 'individual interpretation'
>> was adopted.

>> No, sir, you clearly have not researched the issues, nor have you
>> examined the multitude of cites which the Court provided in Heller
>> showing a regular and consistent interpretation that the 2nd does
>> apply to individuals.

>> Interesting how you wish to assert you know all there is, but you
>> apparently utterly lack even the minimal knowledge that would
>> indicate your claim about the Heller case is nonsense. The individual
>> interpretation has ALWAYS been put into law. Now the Court often
>> stated that the 2nd didn't apply to the states (prior to the 14th
>> Amendment) or that the 2nd didn't apply because it hadn't yet been
>> incorporated by SCOTUS, but that's a far different manner than
>> saying it never applied to individuals until 2008.

>> "The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the
>> debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies
>> and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show
>> plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically
>> capable of acting in concert for the common defense. "A body of
>> citizens enrolled for military discipline." And further, that
>> ordinarily, when called for service these men were expected to
>> appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common
>> use at the time."

>> 307 U.S. 174

>> United States v. Miller (No. 696)

>> Clearly the court is stating that individuals have the right to keep
>> and bear arms, otherwise, how could they appear bearing arms they
>> supplied????

>> So delude yourself if you like, but don't think for a moment the
>> facts are on your side, because they aren't.

>> I've provided enough cites to prove that, and now it's a question of
>> whether you have the honesty to look at the evidence that refutes
>> your position.

> What part of the above do you think has not been beaten to death and
> refuted?

All of it... because you can't. 

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#689602 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-08 21:29 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fo13cpFdgbuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689600
On 6/8/18 9:08 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fnp3poFbpqgU41@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/5/18 7:55 PM, Scout wrote:
>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fnomj9FbpqgU24@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 6/5/18 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>>> teachers!
> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
> 
>>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
> 
>>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS
>>>>>>>>> in class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
> 
>>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are
>>>>>>>> trapped, would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?
> 
>>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it
>>>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to
>>>>>>> say you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your
>>>>>>> "solution" is likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a
>>>>>>> good solution.
> 
>>>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
> 
>>>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
> 
>>>> See: another twist from you. You repeatedly do that.
> 
>>> Do what? Accept what he said at face value?
> 
>>> Are you saying he didn't know what he was talking about?
> 
>>>> Then you ask us to accept YOUR view of the second amendment over
>>>> that of the scholars and the common historic understanding of it
>>>> (your view was not put into law until 2008, and then by judges and
>>>> not legislatures).
> 
>>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html
> 
>>> Sorry, but as SCOTUS shows the court has consistently held the 2nd
>>> protects an individual right.
> 
>>> After all, if the 2nd didn't apply to individuals...then why wasn't
>>> Miller's defense rejected by SCOTUS since in your interpretation an
>>> individual such as Miller wouldn't have the standing to claim the 2nd
>>> Amendment in his defense. However, not only did Miller have standing
>>> to use the 2nd Amendment the court ruled the case in a manner that
>>> the 2nd does apply to individuals. Miller was decided in 1939...that nearly
>>> SEVEN DECADES before you claim that an 'individual interpretation'
>>> was adopted.
> 
>>> No, sir, you clearly have not researched the issues, nor have you
>>> examined the multitude of cites which the Court provided in Heller
>>> showing a regular and consistent interpretation that the 2nd does
>>> apply to individuals.
> 
>>> Interesting how you wish to assert you know all there is, but you
>>> apparently utterly lack even the minimal knowledge that would
>>> indicate your claim about the Heller case is nonsense. The individual
>>> interpretation has ALWAYS been put into law. Now the Court often
>>> stated that the 2nd didn't apply to the states (prior to the 14th
>>> Amendment) or that the 2nd didn't apply because it hadn't yet been
>>> incorporated by SCOTUS, but that's a far different manner than
>>> saying it never applied to individuals until 2008.
> 
>>> "The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the
>>> debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies
>>> and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show
>>> plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically
>>> capable of acting in concert for the common defense. "A body of
>>> citizens enrolled for military discipline." And further, that
>>> ordinarily, when called for service these men were expected to
>>> appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common
>>> use at the time."
> 
>>> 307 U.S. 174
> 
>>> United States v. Miller (No. 696)
> 
>>> Clearly the court is stating that individuals have the right to keep
>>> and bear arms, otherwise, how could they appear bearing arms they
>>> supplied????
> 
>>> So delude yourself if you like, but don't think for a moment the
>>> facts are on your side, because they aren't.
> 
>>> I've provided enough cites to prove that, and now it's a question of
>>> whether you have the honesty to look at the evidence that refutes
>>> your position.
> 
>> What part of the above do you think has not been beaten to death and
>> refuted?
> 
> All of it... because you can't.
> 
> 
Pick your favorite part. Or where you think you make the best point. It 
gets tiring rehashing the same long list of things.

-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#689606 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-08 22:02 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pffn1f$phk$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689602
In news:fo13cpFdgbuU1@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/8/18 9:08 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fnp3poFbpqgU41@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> On 6/5/18 7:55 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fnomj9FbpqgU24@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On 6/5/18 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>>>> teachers!

>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:

>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986

>>>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.

>>>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS
>>>>>>>>>> in class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.

>>>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are
>>>>>>>>> trapped, would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?

>>>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it
>>>>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to
>>>>>>>> say you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your
>>>>>>>> "solution" is likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a
>>>>>>>> good solution.

>>>>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something

>>>>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?

>>>>> See: another twist from you. You repeatedly do that.

>>>> Do what? Accept what he said at face value?

>>>> Are you saying he didn't know what he was talking about?

>>>>> Then you ask us to accept YOUR view of the second amendment over
>>>>> that of the scholars and the common historic understanding of it
>>>>> (your view was not put into law until 2008, and then by judges and
>>>>> not legislatures).

>>>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html

>>>> Sorry, but as SCOTUS shows the court has consistently held the 2nd
>>>> protects an individual right.

>>>> After all, if the 2nd didn't apply to individuals...then why wasn't
>>>> Miller's defense rejected by SCOTUS since in your interpretation an
>>>> individual such as Miller wouldn't have the standing to claim the
>>>> 2nd Amendment in his defense. However, not only did Miller have
>>>> standing to use the 2nd Amendment the court ruled the case in a manner that
>>>> the 2nd does apply to individuals. Miller was decided in
>>>> 1939...that nearly SEVEN DECADES before you claim that an
>>>> 'individual interpretation' was adopted.

>>>> No, sir, you clearly have not researched the issues, nor have you
>>>> examined the multitude of cites which the Court provided in Heller
>>>> showing a regular and consistent interpretation that the 2nd does
>>>> apply to individuals.

>>>> Interesting how you wish to assert you know all there is, but you
>>>> apparently utterly lack even the minimal knowledge that would
>>>> indicate your claim about the Heller case is nonsense. The
>>>> individual interpretation has ALWAYS been put into law. Now the
>>>> Court often stated that the 2nd didn't apply to the states (prior to the 14th
>>>> Amendment) or that the 2nd didn't apply because it hadn't yet been
>>>> incorporated by SCOTUS, but that's a far different manner than
>>>> saying it never applied to individuals until 2008.

>>>> "The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the
>>>> debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies
>>>> and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show
>>>> plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically
>>>> capable of acting in concert for the common defense. "A body of
>>>> citizens enrolled for military discipline." And further, that
>>>> ordinarily, when called for service these men were expected to
>>>> appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in
>>>> common use at the time."

>>>> 307 U.S. 174

>>>> United States v. Miller (No. 696)

>>>> Clearly the court is stating that individuals have the right to keep
>>>> and bear arms, otherwise, how could they appear bearing arms they
>>>> supplied????

>>>> So delude yourself if you like, but don't think for a moment the
>>>> facts are on your side, because they aren't.

>>>> I've provided enough cites to prove that, and now it's a question
>>>> of whether you have the honesty to look at the evidence that
>>>> refutes your position.

>>> What part of the above do you think has not been beaten to death and
>>> refuted?

>> All of it... because you can't.

> Pick your favorite part. Or where you think you make the best point.
> It gets tiring rehashing the same long list of things.

My favorite part was when Scout blew your "new interpretation in 2008" lie out of the water! 

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#689608 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-08 22:07 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fo15klFcgkoU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689606
On 6/8/18 10:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> All of it... because you can't.
>> Pick your favorite part. Or where you think you make the best point.
>> It gets tiring rehashing the same long list of things.
> My favorite part was when Scout blew your "new interpretation in 2008" lie out of the water!

The Heller case is pretty easy to reference, and is the first time the 
new interpretation was offered by the SCOTUS. Remember:

* The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
   action".

* Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
   a hard sale to say they were against the second
   amendment.

* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
   the states rights view.

* We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
   laws.

* We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
   arms... what one could call "infringements".

* We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
   else that is tied to death and injuries.

* I back evidence-based policies.

All of that is very well supported.



-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#689613 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-08 22:44 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pffpgb$5bm$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689608
In news:fo15klFcgkoU3@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/8/18 10:02 PM, max headroom wrote:

>>>> All of it... because you can't.

>>> Pick your favorite part. Or where you think you make the best point.
>>> It gets tiring rehashing the same long list of things.

>> My favorite part was when Scout blew your "new interpretation in
>> 2008" lie out of the water!

> The Heller case is pretty easy to reference, and is the first time the
> new interpretation was offered by the SCOTUS....

Yeah, that's the one! 

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#689615 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-08 22:52 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fo1899FcgkoU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689613
On 6/8/18 10:44 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fo15klFcgkoU3@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/8/18 10:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
> 
>>>>> All of it... because you can't.
> 
>>>> Pick your favorite part. Or where you think you make the best point.
>>>> It gets tiring rehashing the same long list of things.
> 
>>> My favorite part was when Scout blew your "new interpretation in
>>> 2008" lie out of the water!
> 
>> The Heller case is pretty easy to reference, and is the first time the
>> new interpretation was offered by the SCOTUS....
> 
> Yeah, that's the one!
> 
> 
So you have nothing. Fair enough. Does not mean you have to agree... 
after all you clearly view things far more though the eyes of emotion 
than I do. No harm done. No offense taken.

But I suspect you will want to push insults. I am not interested in 
that. We disagree. So what? Maybe at some point you will even find 
evidence to go against what I say... and if you do present it. I am open 
to it.

The closest that has been done is pointing to the early laws being state 
and how federal amendments have a different impact. THAT actually showed 
some logic and reason and effort. Other than that there has not been 
much. So be it.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#689620 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-09 02:13 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pffrg5$ee9$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689613

"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message 
news:pffpgb$5bm$3@dont-email.me...
> In news:fo15klFcgkoU3@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>
>> On 6/8/18 10:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>
>>>>> All of it... because you can't.
>
>>>> Pick your favorite part. Or where you think you make the best point.
>>>> It gets tiring rehashing the same long list of things.
>
>>> My favorite part was when Scout blew your "new interpretation in
>>> 2008" lie out of the water!
>
>> The Heller case is pretty easy to reference, and is the first time the
>> new interpretation was offered by the SCOTUS....
>
> Yeah, that's the one!

Have you noticed how the responses have little to actually do with what is 
actually being replied to other than referencing a few specific keywords.

But have fun with that programmed merry-go-round.

I smacked down it's lies for the lurkers, if any, and moved on.
 

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#689621 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-08 23:20 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fo19ubFehauU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689620
On 6/8/18 11:13 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message 
> news:pffpgb$5bm$3@dont-email.me...
>> In news:fo15klFcgkoU3@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>
>>> On 6/8/18 10:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>
>>>>>> All of it... because you can't.
>>
>>>>> Pick your favorite part. Or where you think you make the best point.
>>>>> It gets tiring rehashing the same long list of things.
>>
>>>> My favorite part was when Scout blew your "new interpretation in
>>>> 2008" lie out of the water!
>>
>>> The Heller case is pretty easy to reference, and is the first time the
>>> new interpretation was offered by the SCOTUS....
>>
>> Yeah, that's the one!
> 
> Have you noticed how the responses have little to actually do with what 
> is actually being replied to other than referencing a few specific 
> keywords.
> 
> But have fun with that programmed merry-go-round.
> 
> I smacked down it's lies for the lurkers, if any, and moved on.

At this point there is no real discussion. I was asked to back the 
following points. I did. There was no real counter other than, perhaps, 
the second point (but there were and ARE laws now that even shoot down 
that effort at a rebuttal).

I am open to comments about the topic. Not interested in nonsense insults.

* The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
   action").

* Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
   a hard sale to say they were against the second
   amendment.

* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
   the states rights view.

* We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
   laws.

* We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
   arms... what one could call "infringements".

* We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
   else that is tied to death and injuries.

* I back evidence-based policies.



-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#689642 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-09 06:22 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pfgl26$tr3$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689621
In news:fo19ubFehauU1@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/8/18 11:13 PM, Scout wrote:
>> "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message
>> news:pffpgb$5bm$3@dont-email.me...
>>> In news:fo15klFcgkoU3@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> On 6/8/18 10:02 PM, max headroom wrote:

>>>>>>> All of it... because you can't.

>>>>>> Pick your favorite part. Or where you think you make the best
>>>>>> point. It gets tiring rehashing the same long list of things.

>>>>> My favorite part was when Scout blew your "new interpretation in
>>>>> 2008" lie out of the water!

>>>> The Heller case is pretty easy to reference, and is the first time
>>>> the new interpretation was offered by the SCOTUS....

>>> Yeah, that's the one!

>> Have you noticed how the responses have little to actually do with
>> what is actually being replied to other than referencing a few
>> specific keywords.

>> But have fun with that programmed merry-go-round.

>> I smacked down it's lies for the lurkers, if any, and moved on.

> At this point there is no real discussion. I was asked to back the
> following points. I did. There was no real counter ...

That you would acknowledge, much less try to refute.

You are correct, though, that there is no discussion. You have posted your claims, supported by 
various opinion cites, and that is that. Rinse and repeat.

Does that really work in sci.physics or comp.os.linux.advocacy? 

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#689648 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-09 15:16 +0000
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fo29a6Fkd61U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689642
max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> In news:fo19ubFehauU1@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/8/18 11:13 PM, Scout wrote:
>>> "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pffpgb$5bm$3@dont-email.me...
>>>> In news:fo15klFcgkoU3@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>> On 6/8/18 10:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> All of it... because you can't.
> 
>>>>>>> Pick your favorite part. Or where you think you make the best
>>>>>>> point. It gets tiring rehashing the same long list of things.
> 
>>>>>> My favorite part was when Scout blew your "new interpretation in
>>>>>> 2008" lie out of the water!
> 
>>>>> The Heller case is pretty easy to reference, and is the first time
>>>>> the new interpretation was offered by the SCOTUS....
> 
>>>> Yeah, that's the one!
> 
>>> Have you noticed how the responses have little to actually do with
>>> what is actually being replied to other than referencing a few
>>> specific keywords.
> 
>>> But have fun with that programmed merry-go-round.
> 
>>> I smacked down it's lies for the lurkers, if any, and moved on.
> 
>> At this point there is no real discussion. I was asked to back the
>> following points. I did. There was no real counter ...
> 
> That you would acknowledge, much less try to refute.
> 
> You are correct, though, that there is no discussion. You have posted
> your claims, supported by 
> various opinion cites, and that is that. Rinse and repeat.
> 
> Does that really work in sci.physics or comp.os.linux.advocacy? 
> 
> 
> 

Why would you call research and historical fact opinion?

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