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Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children!

Started bybenj <benj@nobody.net>
First post2018-05-31 02:37 -0400
Last post2018-06-03 09:06 -0700
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  Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:37 -0400
    Re:Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:16 +0200
      Re: Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 03:51 -0400
    Slaughtering concert goers. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-31 05:22 -0700
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 12:06 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 10:02 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 15:49 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-31 20:12 +0000
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:20 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 16:37 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 19:57 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 17:12 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:38 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:32 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:42 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:54 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:22 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:36 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:07 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:31 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:47 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 08:50 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 22:53 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:39 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:16 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:29 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:43 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:33 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0400
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-05-31 19:49 -0500
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-05-31 17:51 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:26 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:39 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:13 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 03:21 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:46 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 08:12 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 08:27 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 11:59 -0700
                      Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ Slaughtering concert goers. ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-01 14:07 -0500
                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 18:50 -0700
                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:00 -0700
                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:29 -0700
                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:47 -0700
                                  Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:18 -0700
                                    Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 09:14 -0700
                                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:48 -0700
                                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:28 -0700
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:14 -0400
                                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                  Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-02 08:15 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 12:30 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 17:09 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:37 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:00 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:14 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:09 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:48 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 04:53 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:11 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:12 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 00:47 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:05 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:31 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:01 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:39 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:16 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:14 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:35 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:19 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:40 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:26 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:36 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:32 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:03 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:26 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:01 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:08 -0500
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:40 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:35 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:15 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:53 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:09 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:51 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:12 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 04:54 +0000
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:00 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 05:06 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:09 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:54 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                            The Supreme Court got it wrong. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:51 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 11:59 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:43 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:25 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:28 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:08 -0600
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 23:24 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:12 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:37 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:48 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:00 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:32 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 21:38 -0400
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:49 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:49 +0000
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:45 -0700
                                        Permission to breath ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 19:10 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:13 -0700
                                            Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-06-02 20:36 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:53 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 23:33 -0400
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:57 -0400
                                                    Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:08 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                            Clarity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-03 08:52 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:46 +0000
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:53 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 22:59 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 23:19 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 09:10 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:31 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:12 +0000
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:26 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:37 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:10 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:54 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 22:19 -0500
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:58 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 00:24 -0400
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 07:17 +0000
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:21 -0700
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 16:07 +0000
                                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:30 -0700
                                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:32 +0000
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:34 -0700
                                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:50 -0700
                                                      "Natural Rights" aren't always wonderful. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 19:02 -0700
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:49 -0700
                                                  Depressed Losers, slaughtering consert goers, is "natural" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:21 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 02:18 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:25 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:38 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:16 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:46 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:53 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-02 01:20 -0400
                        Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:27 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:14 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:38 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:57 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:29 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:57 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:25 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:53 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:29 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:09 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 21:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:32 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:59 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:02 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:03 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:38 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:53 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:16 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:33 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:38 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 13:17 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:21 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:40 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:47 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:57 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:05 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:13 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:40 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:39 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:54 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:01 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:02 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:13 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:39 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:54 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:05 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:41 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:07 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:14 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:21 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-03 20:11 -0500
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:43 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:45 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:40 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 12:03 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 12:05 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 00:47 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:11 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:13 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:21 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 20:37 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:11 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 17:59 -0400
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 15:05 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:27 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:44 -0400
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:42 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:27 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:47 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-04 23:47 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:51 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:19 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 09:37 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:51 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:18 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:32 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:35 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:48 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 07:48 -0500
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:27 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:30 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 08:55 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:32 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:34 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:54 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:51 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:45 -0500
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:15 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:41 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:11 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:17 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:50 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:01 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:32 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:06 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 05:15 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0500
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:11 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:30 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:54 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:42 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:50 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:07 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:25 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:37 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:51 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:00 -0500
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 06:26 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:28 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:27 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:07 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:44 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:19 -0600
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:23 -0600
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 20:31 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 22:09 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 23:48 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:47 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:44 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:10 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:19 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 23:53 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:57 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:22 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-04 02:48 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:58 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:19 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 20:56 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:26 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:45 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 01:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:00 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:45 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:48 -0500
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:15 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 15:20 -0500
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:55 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:34 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:52 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:57 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:52 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 20:14 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:29 -0500
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:20 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:16 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 06:25 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:30 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:32 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:34 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:07 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:27 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 17:07 -0600
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 16:18 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 16:46 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 17:04 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:13 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 20:16 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:41 -0500
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 02:29 -0600
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:50 -0500
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:41 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:38 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 10:01 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 12:55 -0500
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 07:58 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 11:56 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-05 14:58 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 12:17 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:02 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:45 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 14:51 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:56 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:02 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:47 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:51 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-05 22:44 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:04 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:50 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:05 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:11 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:20 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:42 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:46 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:46 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:15 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:45 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:13 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:36 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:07 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:01 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:08 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:29 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:02 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:07 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:52 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-09 02:13 -0400
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 23:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 06:22 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:16 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 08:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:50 +0000
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 09:23 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:51 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 10:29 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 21:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 14:33 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 14:54 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 14:56 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:04 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:02 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 13:42 -0600
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:32 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 16:24 -0600
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 17:31 -0600
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 23:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:57 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:59 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:07 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:31 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                      Truth Avoidance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:11 -0700
                                                                        Re: Truth Avoidance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 10:09 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:20 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:31 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 18:41 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 17:08 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 17:11 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:32 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:53 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 00:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 02:01 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:03 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:20 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:33 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:11 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-07 05:56 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 22:05 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:05 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:46 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:23 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:26 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:09 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:52 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:08 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:18 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:14 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 11:55 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:07 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:50 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:12 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:56 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:07 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:38 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:57 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:45 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:18 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:17 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:10 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:01 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:36 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:51 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:39 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 13:29 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 11:09 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 17:20 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 14:35 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:08 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:26 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:42 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:32 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:37 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 17:57 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:30 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:51 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:32 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:09 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:12 -0600
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:53 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:59 -0600
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:02 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:24 -0600
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:01 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 19:51 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:56 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 20:21 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:24 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 23:36 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0600
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              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:17 -0500
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#688917 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-06-05 11:56 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<u4ndhdh3e392269pvds4ht35lqa3kee0ff@4ax.com>
In reply to#688891
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying teachers!

Here's the liberal alternative:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986

That's how dumb the leftists are.

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#688925 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2018-06-05 14:58 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf6ni2$4bp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#688917
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying teachers!
>
> Here's the liberal alternative:
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>
> That's how dumb the leftists are.

Maybe they are Quakers!  :-D

-- 
Q:	Why don't lawyers go to the beach?
A:	The cats keep trying to bury them.

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#688926 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 12:17 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688917
On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying teachers!
> 
> Here's the liberal alternative:
> 
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
> 
> That's how dumb the leftists are.
> 
What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class 
rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#688937 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-05 13:02 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf6rad$mc$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#688926
In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>> teachers!

>> Here's the liberal alternative:

>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986

>> That's how dumb the leftists are.

> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.

If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, would you rather have a baseball 
bat or a gun? 

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#688954 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 14:45 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnoejnFbpqgU9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688937
On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>> teachers!
> 
>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
> 
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
> 
>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
> 
>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
> 
> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, would you rather have a baseball
> bat or a gun?
> 
> 
I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you want 
a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is likely to 
lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#688956 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-05 14:51 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#688954
On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>
>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>> teachers!
>>
>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>
>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>
>>
>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>
>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>
>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>> would you rather have a baseball
>> bat or a gun?
>>
>>
> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you want 
> a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is likely to 
> lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
> 
no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something

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#688958 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 14:56 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnof99FbpqgU11@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688956
On 6/5/18 2:51 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>
>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>> teachers!
>>>
>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>
>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>
>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>
>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>> bat or a gun?
>>>
>>>
>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is likely 
>> to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>
> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something

Pretty much. And having one for "defense" increases your chance of 
getting shot.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#688962 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-05 15:02 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<bb3mq1.mlq.17.4@news.alt.net>
In reply to#688958
On 2018-06-05 2:56 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/5/18 2:51 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>
>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>
>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>
>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
> 
> Pretty much. And having one for "defense" increases your chance of 
> getting shot.
> 
i just said that

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#688981 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-05 18:47 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf73v6$nuq$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#688958

"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
news:fnof99FbpqgU11@mid.individual.net...
> On 6/5/18 2:51 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>>
>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>
>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>
>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, would 
>>>> you rather have a baseball
>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you want 
>>> a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is likely to 
>>> lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>
>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>
> Pretty much. And having one for "defense" increases your chance of getting 
> shot.

Actually according to DoJ statistics, in general, your chances of being 
injured or killed drop drastically when you use a gun for self defense over 
any other method of self defense including compliance.
 

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#688983 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-05 15:51 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<bb3pmh.bua.17.4@news.alt.net>
In reply to#688981
On 2018-06-05 3:47 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
> news:fnof99FbpqgU11@mid.individual.net...
>> On 6/5/18 2:51 PM, % wrote:
>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>> class
>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>
>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>
>> Pretty much. And having one for "defense" increases your chance of 
>> getting shot.
> 
> Actually according to DoJ statistics, in general, your chances of being 
> injured or killed drop drastically when you use a gun for self defense 
> over any other method of self defense including compliance.
> 
> 
show me the documented text for this

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#689077 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

Frommixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie>
Date2018-06-05 22:44 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf7hpq$b3u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#688983
On 6/5/2018 6:51 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-06-05 3:47 PM, Scout wrote:
>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
>> news:fnof99FbpqgU11@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 6/5/18 2:51 PM, % wrote:
>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>> class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it 
>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say 
>>>>> you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>>
>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>
>>> Pretty much. And having one for "defense" increases your chance of 
>>> getting shot.
>>
>> Actually according to DoJ statistics, in general, your chances of 
>> being injured or killed drop drastically when you use a gun for self 
>> defense over any other method of self defense including compliance.
>>
> show me the documented text for this

Put some tuna on the keyboard and let the cat write it.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#689009 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnomo3Fqa6rU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688981
On 6/5/18 3:47 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
> news:fnof99FbpqgU11@mid.individual.net...
>> On 6/5/18 2:51 PM, % wrote:
>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>> class
>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>
>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>
>> Pretty much. And having one for "defense" increases your chance of 
>> getting shot.
> 
> Actually according to DoJ statistics, in general, your chances of being 
> injured or killed drop drastically when you use a gun for self defense 
> over any other method of self defense including compliance.
> 
> 
Another twisting of words from you. I noted your chance of being shot AT 
ALL goes up. You moved topics to self defense.

Hint: guns do not magically appear in a situation when defense might be 
needed and then disappear outside of such situations.

If we look at the actual research it is easy to show support for the 
following:

• Firearm laws are associated with reductions in homicide and suicide

• Stand your ground laws are associated with a large increase in homicide

• Guns being in a home have a stronger tie to homicide than does illegal 
drug use and physical fights

• Measures to reduce children getting ahold of arms have worked

• 44% of gun-owning parents say that have a loaded and easily accessible 
gun in the home

• Removing rapid-firing firearms is associated with fewer homicides, 
mass shooting, and suicides

• Gun violence is a very big health issue

• Many incidents of gun violence are not reported

• Gun owners reach out to their representatives more than others to 
share their views on gun.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#689095 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-05 23:04 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf7jmr$5bd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689009

"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
news:fnomo3Fqa6rU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 6/5/18 3:47 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
>> news:fnof99FbpqgU11@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 6/5/18 2:51 PM, % wrote:
>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is likely 
>>>>> to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>>
>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>
>>> Pretty much. And having one for "defense" increases your chance of 
>>> getting shot.
>>
>> Actually according to DoJ statistics, in general, your chances of being 
>> injured or killed drop drastically when you use a gun for self defense 
>> over any other method of self defense including compliance.
>>
>>
> Another twisting of words from you. I noted your chance of being shot AT 
> ALL goes up. You moved topics to self defense.

I don't see any cites for your claims, but even if shot AT....isn't that 
still far better than being SHOT?

As I said, lower risk of injury or death....which I believe is the whole 
objective of self defense.
 

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#689112 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnp3tlFbpqgU43@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689095
On 6/5/18 8:04 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
> news:fnomo3Fqa6rU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 6/5/18 3:47 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:fnof99FbpqgU11@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 6/5/18 2:51 PM, % wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it 
>>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to 
>>>>>> say you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your 
>>>>>> "solution" is likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a 
>>>>>> good solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>>
>>>> Pretty much. And having one for "defense" increases your chance of 
>>>> getting shot.
>>>
>>> Actually according to DoJ statistics, in general, your chances of 
>>> being injured or killed drop drastically when you use a gun for self 
>>> defense over any other method of self defense including compliance.
>>>
>>>
>> Another twisting of words from you. I noted your chance of being shot 
>> AT ALL goes up. You moved topics to self defense.
> 
> I don't see any cites for your claims, but even if shot AT....isn't that 
> still far better than being SHOT?
> 
> As I said, lower risk of injury or death....which I believe is the whole 
> objective of self defense.
> 
> 
Again: you are playing the game of hand picking relatively rare 
occurrences (compared to times one is not in such a situation). You 
ignore the big picture and hand-pick specific situations where there is 
a benefit you want to push as being universal. It is dishonest of you.

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
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#688980 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf73v6$nuq$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#688956

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>
>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>> teachers!
>>>
>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>
>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>
>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>
>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>
>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, would 
>>> you rather have a baseball
>>> bat or a gun?
>>>
>>>
>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you want a 
>> gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is likely to lead 
>> to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>
> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something

So self defense only works if you kill something?

 

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#688982 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-05 15:50 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<bb3pl0.bua.17.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#688980
On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>
>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>
>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>
>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
> 
> So self defense only works if you kill something?
> 
> 
> 
why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong

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#689010 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 17:05 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnompoFbpqgU25@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688982
On 6/5/18 3:50 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>> class
>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>
>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>
>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>
>>
>>
> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong

There are cases where you need to defend yourself. But notice how Scout 
jumps repeatedly to those very rare cases and ignores the bigger 
picture. He is twisting context and meaning.

-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#689014 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-05 17:11 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<bb3ud3.84b.17.14@news.alt.net>
In reply to#689010
On 2018-06-05 5:05 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/5/18 3:50 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it 
>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say 
>>>>> you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>>
>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>
>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong
> 
> There are cases where you need to defend yourself. But notice how Scout 
> jumps repeatedly to those very rare cases and ignores the bigger 
> picture. He is twisting context and meaning.
> 
i don't wanna talk about him i thought this was about something else

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#689018 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 17:20 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnonm2FbpqgU27@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689014
On 6/5/18 5:11 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-06-05 5:05 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/5/18 3:50 PM, % wrote:
>>> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it 
>>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to 
>>>>>> say you want a gun if someone else has one, but when your 
>>>>>> "solution" is likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a 
>>>>>> good solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>>
>>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong
>>
>> There are cases where you need to defend yourself. But notice how 
>> Scout jumps repeatedly to those very rare cases and ignores the bigger 
>> picture. He is twisting context and meaning.
>>
> i don't wanna talk about him i thought this was about something else

The whole debate has gone on so long and with so many trying to twist 
things and change topics who knows what any of it is about any more.

I will just stick with my view unless I see good contrary evidence.

* The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
   action".

* Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
   a hard sale to say they were against the second
   amendment.

* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
   the states rights view.

* We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
   laws.

* We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
   arms... what one could call "infringements".

* We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
   else that is tied to death and injuries.

* I back evidence-based policies.


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#689081 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-05 22:42 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf7igj$vlv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689018

"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
news:fnonm2FbpqgU27@mid.individual.net...
> On 6/5/18 5:11 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-06-05 5:05 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/5/18 3:50 PM, % wrote:
>>>> On 2018-06-05 3:45 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:bb3m5g.j3i.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>>> On 2018-06-05 2:45 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in 
>>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, 
>>>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball
>>>>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will 
>>>>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot. You can twist that to say you 
>>>>>>> want a gun if someone else has one, but when your "solution" is 
>>>>>>> likely to lead to more harm than good it is not a good solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> no one needs a gun unless they are going to kill something
>>>>>
>>>>> So self defense only works if you kill something?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> why do you need to defend yourself what have you done wrong
>>>
>>> There are cases where you need to defend yourself. But notice how Scout 
>>> jumps repeatedly to those very rare cases and ignores the bigger 
>>> picture. He is twisting context and meaning.
>>>
>> i don't wanna talk about him i thought this was about something else
>
> The whole debate has gone on so long and with so many trying to twist 
> things and change topics who knows what any of it is about any more.
>
> I will just stick with my view unless I see good contrary evidence.

stand by for contrary evidence.....again.

> * The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
>   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
>   action".

"At the time of the founding, as now, to “bear” meant to “carry.” See 
Johnson 161; Webster; T. Sheridan, A Complete Dictionary of the English 
Language (1796); 2 Oxford English Dictionary 20 (2d ed. 1989) (hereinafter 
Oxford). When used with “arms,” however, the term has a meaning that refers 
to carrying for a particular purpose—confrontation. In Muscarello v. United 
States, 524 U. S. 125 (1998) , in the course of analyzing the meaning of 
“carries a firearm” in a federal criminal statute, Justice Ginsburg wrote 
that “[s]urely a most familiar meaning is, as the Constitution’s Second 
Amendment … indicate[s]: ‘wear, bear, or carry … upon the person or in the 
clothing or in a pocket, for the purpose … of being armed and ready for 
offensive or defensive action in a case of conflict with another person.’ ” 
Id., at 143 (dissenting opinion) (quoting Black’s Law Dictionary 214 (6th 
ed. 1998)). We think that Justice Ginsburg accurately captured the natural 
meaning of “bear arms.” Although the phrase implies that the carrying of the 
weapon is for the purpose of “offensive or defensive action,” it in no way 
connotes participation in a structured military organization."

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER (No. 07-290)
478 F. 3d 370, affirmed.

>
> * Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
>   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
>   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
>   a hard sale to say they were against the second
>   amendment.

I have not seen any law in existence which impacted either the keeping of 
arms or the bearing of arms by the federal government until into the 20th 
Century.

It should be noted that state and local laws of this nature may have existed 
but since BOR was a restraint on the federal government rather than state or 
local governments, and specifically the 2nd Amendment was not such a 
restraint until the 14th Amendment incorporation in McDonald vs. City of 
Chicago.

As such the existence of such laws in lower levels of government would not 
support any contention that such laws were permissible under the 2nd 
Amendment had it applied to such levels of government. I would note that 
similar violations of the other portions of the BOR occurred and was a 
fundamental reason for the ratification of the 14th Amendment to apply the 
protection of such rights to all levels of government once such protection 
was incorporated by SCOTUS as was done with the 2nd in 2010.

Therefore this argument proves nothing about the extent of the protections 
afforded by the 2nd Amendment and what would have been seen as permissible 
or objectionable if done by the federal government in the time period around 
the time of ratification.


But again let's defer to the relevant experts.

" We now address how the Second Amendment was interpreted from immediately 
after its ratification through the end of the 19th century. Before 
proceeding, however, we take issue with Justice Stevens’ equating of these 
sources with postenactment legislative history, a comparison that betrays a 
fundamental misunderstanding of a court’s interpretive task. See post, at 
27, n. 28. “Legislative history,” of course, refers to the pre-enactment 
statements of those who drafted or voted for a law; it is considered 
persuasive by some, not because they reflect the general understanding of 
the disputed terms, but because the legislators who heard or read those 
statements presumably voted with that understanding. Ibid. “Postenactment 
legislative history,” ibid., a deprecatory contradiction in terms, refers to 
statements of those who drafted or voted for the law that are made after its 
enactment and hence could have had no effect on the congressional vote. It 
most certainly does not refer to the examination of a variety of legal and 
other sources to determine the public understanding of a legal text in the 
period after its enactment or ratification. That sort of inquiry is a 
critical tool of constitutional interpretation. As we will show, virtually 
all interpreters of the Second Amendment in the century after its enactment 
interpreted the amendment as we do."
(Ibid)

>
> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>   the states rights view.

I suspect that's because of your bias towards looking at scholars who say 
what you want to hear.

But let's see what the scholars who matter think.

" The 19th-century cases that interpreted the Second Amendment universally 
support an individual right unconnected to militia service. In Houston v. 
Moore, 5 Wheat. 1, 24 (1820), this Court held that States have concurrent 
power over the militia, at least where not pre-empted by Congress. Agreeing 
in dissent that States could “organize, discipline, and arm” the militia in 
the absence of conflicting federal regulation, Justice Story said that the 
Second Amendment “may not, perhaps, be thought to have any important bearing 
on this point. If it have, it confirms and illustrates, rather than impugns 
the reasoning already suggested.” Id., at 51–53. Of course, if the Amendment 
simply “protect[ed] the right of the people of each of the several States to 
maintain a well-regulated militia,” post, at 1 (Stevens, J., dissenting), it 
would have enormous and obvious bearing on the point. But the Court and 
Story derived the States’ power over the militia from the nonexclusive 
nature of federal power, not from the Second Amendment , whose preamble 
merely “confirms and illustrates” the importance of the militia. Even 
clearer was Justice Baldwin. In the famous fugitive-slave case of Johnson v. 
Tompkins, 13 F. Cas. 840, 850, 852 (CC Pa. 1833), Baldwin, sitting as a 
circuit judge, cited both the Second Amendment and the Pennsylvania analogue 
for his conclusion that a citizen has “a right to carry arms in defence of 
his property or person, and to use them, if either were assailed with such 
force, numbers or violence as made it necessary for the protection or safety 
of either.”

    Many early 19th-century state cases indicated that the Second Amendment 
right to bear arms was an individual right unconnected to militia service, 
though subject to certain restrictions. A Virginia case in 1824 holding that 
the Constitution did not extend to free blacks explained that “numerous 
restrictions imposed on [blacks] in our Statute Book, many of which are 
inconsistent with the letter and spirit of the Constitution, both of this 
State and of the United States as respects the free whites, demonstrate, 
that, here, those instruments have not been considered to extend equally to 
both classes of our population. We will only instance the restriction upon 
the migration of free blacks into this State, and upon their right to bear 
arms.” Aldridge v. Commonwealth, 2 Va. Cas. 447, 449 (Gen. Ct.). The claim 
was obviously not that blacks were prevented from carrying guns in the 
militia.21 See also Waters v. State, 1Gill 302, 309 (Md. 1843) (because free 
blacks were treated as a “dangerous population,” “laws have been passed to 
prevent their migration into this State; to make it unlawful for them to 
bear arms; to guard even their religious assemblages with peculiar 
watchfulness”). An 1829 decision by the Supreme Court of Michigan said: “The 
constitution of the United States also grants to the citizen the right to 
keep and bear arms. But the grant of this privilege cannot be construed into 
the right in him who keeps a gun to destroy his neighbor. No rights are 
intended to be granted by the constitution for an unlawful or unjustifiable 
purpose.” United States v. Sheldon, in 5 Transactions of the Supreme Court 
of the Territory of Michigan 337, 346 (W. Blume ed. 1940) (hereinafter 
Blume). It is not possible to read this as discussing anything other than an 
individual right unconnected to militia service. If it did have to do with 
militia service, the limitation upon it would not be any “unlawful or 
unjustifiable purpose,” but any nonmilitary purpose whatsoever.

    In Nunn v. State, 1Ga. 243, 251 (1846), the Georgia Supreme Court 
construed the Second Amendment as protecting the “natural right of 
self-defence” and therefore struck down a ban on carrying pistols openly. 
Its opinion perfectly captured the way in which the operative clause of the 
Second Amendment furthers the purpose announced in the prefatory clause, in 
continuity with the English right:

“The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not 
militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such 
merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or 
broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end 
to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so 
vitally necessary to the security of a free State. Our opinion is, that any 
law, State or Federal, is repugnant to the Constitution, and void, which 
contravenes this right, originally belonging to our forefathers, trampled 
under foot by Charles I. and his two wicked sons and successors, 
re-established by the revolution of 1688, conveyed to this land of liberty 
by the colonists, and finally incorporated conspicuously in our own Magna 
Charta!”

    Likewise, in State v. Chandler, 5La. Ann. 489, 490 (1850), the Louisiana 
Supreme Court held that citizens had a right to carry arms openly: “This is 
the right guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, and which is 
calculated to incite men to a manly and noble defence of themselves, if 
necessary, and of their country, without any tendency to secret advantages 
and unmanly assassinations.”

    Those who believe that the Second Amendment preserves only a 
militia-centered right place great reliance on the Tennessee Supreme Court’s 
1840 decision in Aymette v. State, 21 Tenn. 154. The case does not stand for 
that broad proposition; in fact, the case does not mention the word 
 “militia” at all, except in its quoting of the Second Amendment . Aymette 
held that the state constitutional guarantee of the right to “bear” arms did 
not prohibit the banning of concealed weapons. The opinion first recognized 
that both the state right and the federal right were descendents of the 1689 
English right, but (erroneously, and contrary to virtually all other 
authorities) read that right to refer only to “protect[ion of] the public 
liberty” and “keep[ing] in awe those in power,” id., at 158. The court then 
adopted a sort of middle position, whereby citizens were permitted to carry 
arms openly, unconnected with any service in a formal militia, but were 
given the right to use them only for the military purpose of banding 
together to oppose tyranny. This odd reading of the right is, to be sure, 
not the one we adopt—but it is not petitioners’ reading either. More 
importantly, seven years earlier the Tennessee Supreme Court had treated the 
state constitutional provision as conferring a right “of all the free 
citizens of the State to keep and bear arms for their defence,” Simpson, 5 
Yer., at 360; and 21 years later the court held that the “keep” portion of 
the state constitutional right included the right to personal self-defense: 
“[T]he right to keep arms involves, necessarily, the right to use such arms 
for all the ordinary purposes, and in all the ordinary modes usual in the 
country, and to which arms are adapted, limited by the duties of a good 
citizen in times of peace.” Andrews, 50 Tenn., at 178; see also ibid. 
(equating state provision with Second Amendment )."
(Ibid)


>
> * We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
>   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
>   laws.

The NRA has no control over our laws. They can not introduce, debate, amend 
or even vote on any legislation. They are not an elected representative to 
any position in any level of government.

Further I would note that per your own arguments we shouldn't allow the 
antigun groups to do so either since they similarly benefit from mass 
shootings and terrorism.


>
> * We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
>   arms... what one could call "infringements".

Yes, and SCOTUS has been in the process of tearing down these infringements 
since DC vs. Heller and McDonald vs City of Chicago.


> * We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
>   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
>   else that is tied to death and injuries.

To what end? To blame an inanimate object for the actions of the person 
using it?

> * I back evidence-based policies.

Then when are you going to start doing so:?

I would note that all your issues, arguments, and questions were asked and 
addressed by SCOTUS. I suggest you read their ruling which will provide you 
with cites, references and sources for further research and proof of what 
you're asking to see as far as the application of the 2nd Amendment to the 
individual right to keep and bear arms for non-military uses.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html

You asked for good contrary evidence. I've now supplied it. Until you can 
refute the information contained with the ruling by SCOTUS I will consider 
your views refuted.
 

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