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Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children!

Started bybenj <benj@nobody.net>
First post2018-05-31 02:37 -0400
Last post2018-06-03 09:06 -0700
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  Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:37 -0400
    Re:Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:16 +0200
      Re: Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 03:51 -0400
    Slaughtering concert goers. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-31 05:22 -0700
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 12:06 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 10:02 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 15:49 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-31 20:12 +0000
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:20 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 16:37 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 19:57 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 17:12 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:38 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:32 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:42 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:54 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:22 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:36 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:07 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:31 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:47 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 08:50 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 22:53 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:39 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:16 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:29 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:43 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:33 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0400
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-05-31 19:49 -0500
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-05-31 17:51 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:26 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:39 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:13 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 03:21 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:46 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 08:12 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 08:27 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 11:59 -0700
                      Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ Slaughtering concert goers. ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-01 14:07 -0500
                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 18:50 -0700
                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:00 -0700
                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:29 -0700
                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:47 -0700
                                  Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:18 -0700
                                    Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 09:14 -0700
                                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:48 -0700
                                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:28 -0700
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:14 -0400
                                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                  Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-02 08:15 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 12:30 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 17:09 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:37 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:00 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:14 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:09 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:48 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 04:53 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:11 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:12 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 00:47 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:05 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:31 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:01 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:39 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:16 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:14 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:35 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:19 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:40 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:26 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:36 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:32 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:03 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:26 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:01 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:08 -0500
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:40 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:35 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:15 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:53 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:09 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:51 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:12 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 04:54 +0000
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:00 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 05:06 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:09 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:54 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                            The Supreme Court got it wrong. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:51 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 11:59 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:43 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:25 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:28 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:08 -0600
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 23:24 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:12 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:37 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:48 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:00 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:32 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 21:38 -0400
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:49 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:49 +0000
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:45 -0700
                                        Permission to breath ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 19:10 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:13 -0700
                                            Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-06-02 20:36 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:53 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 23:33 -0400
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:57 -0400
                                                    Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:08 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                            Clarity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-03 08:52 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:46 +0000
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:53 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 22:59 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 23:19 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 09:10 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:31 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:12 +0000
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:26 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:37 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:10 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:54 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 22:19 -0500
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:58 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 00:24 -0400
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 07:17 +0000
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:21 -0700
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 16:07 +0000
                                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:30 -0700
                                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:32 +0000
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:34 -0700
                                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:50 -0700
                                                      "Natural Rights" aren't always wonderful. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 19:02 -0700
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:49 -0700
                                                  Depressed Losers, slaughtering consert goers, is "natural" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:21 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 02:18 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:25 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:38 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:16 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:46 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:53 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-02 01:20 -0400
                        Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:27 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:14 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:38 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:57 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:29 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:57 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:25 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:53 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:29 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:09 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 21:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:32 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:59 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:02 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:03 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:38 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:53 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:16 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:33 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:38 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 13:17 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:21 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:40 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:47 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:57 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:05 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:13 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:40 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:39 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:54 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:01 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:02 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:13 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:39 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:54 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:05 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:41 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:07 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:14 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:21 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-03 20:11 -0500
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:43 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:45 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:40 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 12:03 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 12:05 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 00:47 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:11 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:13 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:21 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 20:37 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:11 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 17:59 -0400
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 15:05 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:27 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:44 -0400
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:42 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:27 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:47 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-04 23:47 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:51 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:19 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 09:37 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:51 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:18 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:32 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:35 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:48 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 07:48 -0500
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:27 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:30 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 08:55 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:32 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:34 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:54 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:51 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:45 -0500
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:15 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:41 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:11 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:17 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:50 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:01 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:32 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:06 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 05:15 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0500
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:11 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:30 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:54 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:42 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:50 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:07 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:25 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:37 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:51 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:00 -0500
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 06:26 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:28 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:27 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:07 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:44 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:19 -0600
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:23 -0600
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 20:31 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 22:09 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 23:48 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:47 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:44 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:10 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:19 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 23:53 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:57 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:22 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-04 02:48 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:58 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:19 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 20:56 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:26 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:45 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 01:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:00 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:45 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:48 -0500
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:15 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 15:20 -0500
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:55 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:34 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:52 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:57 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:52 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 20:14 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:29 -0500
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:20 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:16 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 06:25 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:30 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:32 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:34 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:07 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:27 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 17:07 -0600
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 16:18 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 16:46 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 17:04 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:13 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 20:16 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:41 -0500
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 02:29 -0600
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:50 -0500
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:41 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:38 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 10:01 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 12:55 -0500
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 07:58 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 11:56 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-05 14:58 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 12:17 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:02 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:45 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 14:51 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:56 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:02 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:47 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:51 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-05 22:44 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:04 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:50 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:05 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:11 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:20 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:42 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:46 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:46 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:15 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:45 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:13 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:36 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:07 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:01 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:08 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:29 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:02 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:07 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:52 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-09 02:13 -0400
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 23:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 06:22 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:16 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 08:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:50 +0000
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 09:23 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:51 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 10:29 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 21:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 14:33 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 14:54 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 14:56 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:04 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:02 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 13:42 -0600
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:32 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 16:24 -0600
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 17:31 -0600
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 23:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:57 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:59 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:07 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:31 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                      Truth Avoidance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:11 -0700
                                                                        Re: Truth Avoidance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 10:09 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:20 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:31 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 18:41 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 17:08 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 17:11 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:32 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:53 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 00:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 02:01 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:03 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:20 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:33 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:11 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-07 05:56 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 22:05 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:05 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:46 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:23 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:26 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:09 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:52 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:08 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:18 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:14 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 11:55 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:07 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:50 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:12 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:56 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:07 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:38 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:57 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:45 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:18 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:17 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:10 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:01 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:36 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:51 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:39 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 13:29 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 11:09 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 17:20 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 14:35 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:08 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:26 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:42 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:32 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:37 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 17:57 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:30 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:51 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:32 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:09 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:12 -0600
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:53 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:59 -0600
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:02 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:24 -0600
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:01 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 19:51 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:56 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 20:21 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:24 -0700
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#688842 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnmns3Fecg6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688831
!Jones <jones@fobahor.com> wrote:
> x-no-idiots: yes
> 
> On 5 Jun 2018 04:19:52 GMT, in talk.politics.guns Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have already shown otherwise. They pay off politicians heavily. 
> 
> Dunno; I've been on the road for a few days, so I'm a bit under the
> power curve.  I turned on the group and there's over 2,500 new
> messages most of which make no sense at all.
> 
> The NRA has to be pretty transparant with their "donations" because of
> what they are... and that's not really my field.  Pint bein' that you
> can get their budget through open records.
> 
> Point 2: While I certainly believe that the NRA would behave in an
> unethical manner, in an immoral manner, and downright disgustingly...
> I doubt that they'd do anything blatantly illegal; brown bags of money
> changing hands in DC hotel rooms likely happens, but it probably can't
> be traced to the NRA.
> 
> Jones
> 
> --
> Quod si non verum est, non dicere est.
> 

I am talking about legal payments. They fund politicians heavily. 

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#688874 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From!Jones <jones@fobahor.com>
Date2018-06-05 07:48 -0500
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<sf1dhdpgrcjfcrqlttek3d63kichdkgugq@4ax.com>
In reply to#688842
x-no-idiots: yes

On 5 Jun 2018 06:11:15 GMT, in talk.politics.guns Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>I am talking about legal payments. They fund politicians heavily. 

OK.  Is there a source?  I was under the impression that it was the
ILA that mainly influenced politicians and that they did so by
rendering services.  The NRA would *prefer* not to be tied to
political contributions.

Jones

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#688876 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 06:15 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnngmoFbpqgU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688874
On 6/5/18 5:48 AM, !Jones wrote:
> x-no-idiots: yes
> 
> On 5 Jun 2018 06:11:15 GMT, in talk.politics.guns Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am talking about legal payments. They fund politicians heavily.
> 
> OK.  Is there a source?  I was under the impression that it was the
> ILA that mainly influenced politicians and that they did so by
> rendering services.  The NRA would *prefer* not to be tied to
> political contributions.
They are HEAVILY tied to political contributions and lobbying and other 
influence:

<http://www.newsweek.com/nra-gun-control-parkland-florida-school-shooting-campaign-donations-813940> 
OR <https://goo.gl/ejWGkg>
-----
The National Rifle Association spends more money to influence politics 
than nearly every nonprofit group in the United States—but that’s only 
one-half of its arsenal, gun violence experts told Newsweek in separate 
interviews.

The NRA’s extravagance has earned it a reputation as one of the most 
powerful political organizations in the county. When it comes to 
muzzling politicians on gun control and stymying regulations in 
Congress, the public often credits the group with near-omnipotence. It’s 
an easy argument to make when lawmakers offer “thoughts and prayers” in 
the wake of gun violence but shy away from legislative action. They also 
tend to have a pecuniary interest in protecting the NRA’s aims.
...
“What’s special about the NRA is that it has two sources of its 
influence,” Maguire said. “The first is its very deep pockets. The 
second is its almost unparalleled grass roots support.”
...
The NRA significantly boosted its spending that year, dropping more 
money to get President Donald Trump elected than it did in all federal 
elections in the 2012 cycle combined, the group reported. Trump was the 
beneficiary of over $30 million in NRA spending—$11,438,118 for him and 
$19,756,081 against Hillary Clinton—in the 2016 election.

The NRA’s return-on-investment is formidable. The group had a 73.3 
percent success rate by candidate in 2016—meaning nearly three-quarters 
of the time the NRA spent money for or against a candidate, it got its 
desired outcome. It’s also getting more efficient—its success rate when 
spending money on candidates has trended up since 2008 when it was only 
43.6 percent.

In 2012, gun rights groups outspent gun control groups in federal 
lobbying efforts $6,129,911 to just $250,000, according to data provided 
to Newsweek by the Center for Responsive Politics. On December 14, 2012, 
Adam Lanza walked into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, 
Connecticut, and killed 20 children and six adults with an AR-15-style 
rifle. The next year, pro-gun groups more than doubled their collective 
lobbying efforts, spending $15,292,052 compared to gun control groups’ 
$2,217,765. Lobbying by both gun rights and gun control groups has 
declined slightly since, but the pro-gun efforts have never dipped below 
seven figures.
-----

As a side note, why do they call it "gun control groups"? Do they call 
groups calling for better safety features in cars or better made roads 
"car control groups"? The term is absurd and biased.



<http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/oct/11/counting-up-how-much-nra-spends/> 
OR <https://goo.gl/AupU1b>
-----
If you add together all of the NRA’s contributions to candidates, 
parties and leadership political action committees between 1998 and 
2016, it comes to more than $13 million, according to calculations from 
the Center for Responsive Politics’ database.

That’s more than three and a half times larger than their direct 
contributions to current members of Congress.

But there’s more.

NRA spends millions more intervening in campaigns and lobbying
The NRA’s biggest chunk of spending on politics came from "outside 
spending," consisting largely of "independent expenditures" — efforts 
"expressly advocating the election or defeat of a clearly identified 
candidate." Often these take the form of campaign ads, but they are 
carried out without coordinating with the candidates they are supporting.

This type of spending vastly outpaces what the NRA spent on giving to 
candidates directly. The NRA spent $144.3 million on outside spending, 
such as independent expenditures, during that period.

In addition, the NRA since 1998 has reported spending a cumulative $45.9 
million on federal lobbying, both for its in-house operations and the 
outside consultants it has retained.

If you add it all up -- candidate and party contributions, independent 
expenditures, and lobbying -- the NRA has spent $203.2 million on 
political activities since 1998.
-----

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#688936 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From!Jones <jones@fobahor.com>
Date2018-06-05 15:20 -0500
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<c5qdhd9pvv4cu1bpcoefg2me11ohbraqqr@4ax.com>
In reply to#688876
x-no-idiots: yes

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 06:15:04 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>They are HEAVILY tied to political contributions and lobbying and other 
>influence:
>
><http://www.newsweek.com/nra-gun-control-parkland-florida-school-shooting-campaign-donations-813940> 
>OR <https://goo.gl/ejWGkg>

I'm a little cautious about citing the news media as reliable sources
of information unless they're willing to include a bibliography and
cite their sources.  Now, Newsweek has a pretty good reputation for
vetting the stories; however, all I have is Newsweek's reputation.

I suppose it's better than citing: http://www.nraila.org as many here
will do.  OTOH, if I were a reviewer and found "Newsweek" in the
bibliography, I would challenge the authority of the source unless the
purpose were to establish Newsweek's editorial position on some
matter.

*********************

The NRA proper is listed as a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.  If
you look up that designation and the restrictions thereon, you will
note that these cannot make political contributions or perform
campaign activities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)(3)_organization
Limitations on political activity
Section 501(c)(3) organizations are prohibited from supporting
political candidates, as a result of the Johnson Amendment enacted in
1954.[29] Section 501(c)(3) organizations are subject to limits on
lobbying, having a choice between two sets of rules establishing an
upper bound for their lobbying activities. Section 501(c)(3)
organizations risk loss of their tax-exempt status if these rules are
violated.[30][31] An organization that loses its 501(c)(3) status due
to being engaged in political activities cannot subsequently qualify
for 501(c)(4) status.[32]

That said, there are many groups under the penumbra of the NRA that
are *not* 501(c)(3)... the ILA, for example (et. al.)

Jones

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#688957 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 14:55 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnof6pFp0prU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688936
On 6/5/18 1:20 PM, !Jones wrote:
> x-no-idiots: yes
> 
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 06:15:04 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> They are HEAVILY tied to political contributions and lobbying and other
>> influence:
>>
>> <http://www.newsweek.com/nra-gun-control-parkland-florida-school-shooting-campaign-donations-813940>
>> OR <https://goo.gl/ejWGkg>
> 
> I'm a little cautious about citing the news media as reliable sources
> of information unless they're willing to include a bibliography and
> cite their sources.  Now, Newsweek has a pretty good reputation for
> vetting the stories; however, all I have is Newsweek's reputation.
> 
> I suppose it's better than citing: http://www.nraila.org as many here
> will do.  OTOH, if I were a reviewer and found "Newsweek" in the
> bibliography, I would challenge the authority of the source unless the
> purpose were to establish Newsweek's editorial position on some
> matter.
> 
> *********************
> 
> The NRA proper is listed as a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.  If
> you look up that designation and the restrictions thereon, you will
> note that these cannot make political contributions or perform
> campaign activities.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)(3)_organization
> Limitations on political activity
> Section 501(c)(3) organizations are prohibited from supporting
> political candidates, as a result of the Johnson Amendment enacted in
> 1954.[29] Section 501(c)(3) organizations are subject to limits on
> lobbying, having a choice between two sets of rules establishing an
> upper bound for their lobbying activities. Section 501(c)(3)
> organizations risk loss of their tax-exempt status if these rules are
> violated.[30][31] An organization that loses its 501(c)(3) status due
> to being engaged in political activities cannot subsequently qualify
> for 501(c)(4) status.[32]
> 
> That said, there are many groups under the penumbra of the NRA that
> are *not* 501(c)(3)... the ILA, for example (et. al.)
> 
> Jones

Also gave you a link from Politifact.

The NRA should lose its non-profit status.

<https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&type=P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2016> 
OR <https://goo.gl/EYqxxo>

They do bypass laws to not have the donations be direct -- but the 
impact is the same.


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somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

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#689054 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From!Jones <jones@fobahor.com>
Date2018-06-05 20:34 -0500
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<lo9ehd5p4sq15qo21mv56fc8i0u8p3mh4g@4ax.com>
In reply to#688957
x-no-idiots: yes

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:55:36 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>Also gave you a link from Politifact.
>
>The NRA should lose its non-profit status.
>
><https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&type=P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2016> 
>OR <https://goo.gl/EYqxxo>
>
>They do bypass laws to not have the donations be direct -- but the 
>impact is the same.

Yeah, OK... look, I think that we actually agree in principle.  The
NRA represents a very wealthy and powerful industry and *controls*
vast resources.  The holy grail of this debate would be to document
exactly who is receiving NRA related resources and how much; if the
NRA proper gave a monitary contribution to a candidate, it would be an
open record... as above.

In that, the average donation is $5,263 and that's pretty much chump
change... I mean, yeah, I'd like it, but you don't *own* a senator
like the NRA owns 'em for $5K a pop. (I'll take a dozen, please.)
Also, did you see the disclaimer at the bottom?  E.g.: "The
organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from
the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or
owners, and those individuals' immediate families."

Me pint bein' that the NRA, itself, cannot legally write a check to a
candidate.  If they do, then they should lose their tax-exempt status.

But, yeah... lots of money flows; I think we agree on that and that
it's likely much more than $834K.

Jones

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#689064 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 18:52 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnot2cFbpqgU37@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689054
On 6/5/18 6:34 PM, !Jones wrote:
> x-no-idiots: yes
> 
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:55:36 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> Also gave you a link from Politifact.
>>
>> The NRA should lose its non-profit status.
>>
>> <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&type=P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2016>
>> OR <https://goo.gl/EYqxxo>
>>
>> They do bypass laws to not have the donations be direct -- but the
>> impact is the same.
> 
> Yeah, OK... look, I think that we actually agree in principle.  The
> NRA represents a very wealthy and powerful industry and *controls*
> vast resources.  The holy grail of this debate would be to document
> exactly who is receiving NRA related resources and how much; if the
> NRA proper gave a monitary contribution to a candidate, it would be an
> open record... as above.
> 
> In that, the average donation is $5,263 and that's pretty much chump
> change... I mean, yeah, I'd like it, but you don't *own* a senator
> like the NRA owns 'em for $5K a pop. (I'll take a dozen, please.)
> Also, did you see the disclaimer at the bottom?  E.g.: "The
> organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from
> the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or
> owners, and those individuals' immediate families."

I saw this and referenced it with the bypassing of the laws.

> Me pint bein' that the NRA, itself, cannot legally write a check to a
> candidate.  If they do, then they should lose their tax-exempt status.

They SHOULD lose it. They are clearly VERY politically active.

> But, yeah... lots of money flows; I think we agree on that and that
> it's likely much more than $834K.

Fair enough.

> Jones
> 
> --
> Quod si non verum est, non dicere est.
> 


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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

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#689083 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-05 22:57 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<L4IRC.144502$mD.80401@fx31.iad>
In reply to#689064
On 6/5/2018 9:52 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/5/18 6:34 PM, !Jones wrote:
>> x-no-idiots: yes
>>
>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:55:36 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also gave you a link from Politifact.
>>>
>>> The NRA should lose its non-profit status.
>>>
>>> <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&type=P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2016> 
>>>
>>> OR <https://goo.gl/EYqxxo>
>>>
>>> They do bypass laws to not have the donations be direct -- but the
>>> impact is the same.
>>
>> Yeah, OK... look, I think that we actually agree in principle.  The
>> NRA represents a very wealthy and powerful industry and *controls*
>> vast resources.  The holy grail of this debate would be to document
>> exactly who is receiving NRA related resources and how much; if the
>> NRA proper gave a monitary contribution to a candidate, it would be an
>> open record... as above.
>>
>> In that, the average donation is $5,263 and that's pretty much chump
>> change... I mean, yeah, I'd like it, but you don't *own* a senator
>> like the NRA owns 'em for $5K a pop. (I'll take a dozen, please.)
>> Also, did you see the disclaimer at the bottom?  E.g.: "The
>> organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from
>> the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or
>> owners, and those individuals' immediate families."
> 
> I saw this and referenced it with the bypassing of the laws.
> 
>> Me pint bein' that the NRA, itself, cannot legally write a check to a
>> candidate.  If they do, then they should lose their tax-exempt status.
> 
> They SHOULD lose it. They are clearly VERY politically active.

Then YOU should should be banned from having political opinions too.
YOu libs always hate free speech except for you own opinions.

>> But, yeah... lots of money flows; I think we agree on that and that
>> it's likely much more than $834K.
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
>> Jones
>>
>> -- 
>> Quod si non verum est, non dicere est.
>>
> 
> 

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#689110 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnp3r4FbpqgU42@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689083
On 6/5/18 7:57 PM, benj wrote:
> On 6/5/2018 9:52 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/5/18 6:34 PM, !Jones wrote:
>>> x-no-idiots: yes
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:55:36 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also gave you a link from Politifact.
>>>>
>>>> The NRA should lose its non-profit status.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&type=P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2016> 
>>>>
>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/EYqxxo>
>>>>
>>>> They do bypass laws to not have the donations be direct -- but the
>>>> impact is the same.
>>>
>>> Yeah, OK... look, I think that we actually agree in principle.  The
>>> NRA represents a very wealthy and powerful industry and *controls*
>>> vast resources.  The holy grail of this debate would be to document
>>> exactly who is receiving NRA related resources and how much; if the
>>> NRA proper gave a monitary contribution to a candidate, it would be an
>>> open record... as above.
>>>
>>> In that, the average donation is $5,263 and that's pretty much chump
>>> change... I mean, yeah, I'd like it, but you don't *own* a senator
>>> like the NRA owns 'em for $5K a pop. (I'll take a dozen, please.)
>>> Also, did you see the disclaimer at the bottom?  E.g.: "The
>>> organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from
>>> the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or
>>> owners, and those individuals' immediate families."
>>
>> I saw this and referenced it with the bypassing of the laws.
>>
>>> Me pint bein' that the NRA, itself, cannot legally write a check to a
>>> candidate.  If they do, then they should lose their tax-exempt status.
>>
>> They SHOULD lose it. They are clearly VERY politically active.
> 
> Then YOU should should be banned from having political opinions too.

I never said, suggested, hinted, or implied they should not have 
opinions. See how you twist words.

> YOu libs always hate free speech except for you own opinions.

This is a direct misrepresentation of my views.

>>> But, yeah... lots of money flows; I think we agree on that and that
>>> it's likely much more than $834K.
>>
>> Fair enough.
>>
>>> Jones
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Quod si non verum est, non dicere est.
>>>
>>
>>
> 


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#689388 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-07 15:09 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pfcafb$ojf$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689064
In news:fnot2cFbpqgU37@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/5/18 6:34 PM, !Jones wrote:
>> x-no-idiots: yes
>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:55:36 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>>> Also gave you a link from Politifact.

>>> The NRA should lose its non-profit status.

Because you don't like it.

>>> <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&type=P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2016>
>>> OR https://goo.gl/EYqxxo

>>> They do bypass laws to not have the donations be direct -- but the
>>> impact is the same.

>> Yeah, OK... look, I think that we actually agree in principle.  The
>> NRA represents a very wealthy and powerful industry and *controls*
>> vast resources.  The holy grail of this debate would be to document
>> exactly who is receiving NRA related resources and how much; if the
>> NRA proper gave a monitary contribution to a candidate, it would be
>> an open record... as above.

>> In that, the average donation is $5,263 and that's pretty much chump
>> change... I mean, yeah, I'd like it, but you don't *own* a senator
>> like the NRA owns 'em for $5K a pop. (I'll take a dozen, please.)
>> Also, did you see the disclaimer at the bottom?  E.g.: "The
>> organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from
>> the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or
>> owners, and those individuals' immediate families."

> I saw this and referenced it with the bypassing of the laws.

>> Me pint bein' that the NRA, itself, cannot legally write a check to a
>> candidate.  If they do, then they should lose their tax-exempt
>> status.

> They SHOULD lose it. They are clearly VERY politically active.

>> But, yeah... lots of money flows; I think we agree on that and that
>> it's likely much more than $834K.

> Fair enough.

Check your source for this year. NRA-ILA has spent $177,679 so far, which is 'way less than 
Everytown for Gun Safety's $832,037, or Planned Parenthood's $1,063,911. 

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#689396 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-07 16:52 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fntup0Fp19uU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689388
On 6/7/18 3:09 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fnot2cFbpqgU37@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/5/18 6:34 PM, !Jones wrote:
>>> x-no-idiots: yes
>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:55:36 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Also gave you a link from Politifact.
> 
>>>> The NRA should lose its non-profit status.
> 
> Because you don't like it.
> 
>>>> <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&type=P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2016>
>>>> OR https://goo.gl/EYqxxo
> 
>>>> They do bypass laws to not have the donations be direct -- but the
>>>> impact is the same.
> 
>>> Yeah, OK... look, I think that we actually agree in principle.  The
>>> NRA represents a very wealthy and powerful industry and *controls*
>>> vast resources.  The holy grail of this debate would be to document
>>> exactly who is receiving NRA related resources and how much; if the
>>> NRA proper gave a monitary contribution to a candidate, it would be
>>> an open record... as above.
> 
>>> In that, the average donation is $5,263 and that's pretty much chump
>>> change... I mean, yeah, I'd like it, but you don't *own* a senator
>>> like the NRA owns 'em for $5K a pop. (I'll take a dozen, please.)
>>> Also, did you see the disclaimer at the bottom?  E.g.: "The
>>> organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from
>>> the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or
>>> owners, and those individuals' immediate families."
> 
>> I saw this and referenced it with the bypassing of the laws.
> 
>>> Me pint bein' that the NRA, itself, cannot legally write a check to a
>>> candidate.  If they do, then they should lose their tax-exempt
>>> status.
> 
>> They SHOULD lose it. They are clearly VERY politically active.
> 
>>> But, yeah... lots of money flows; I think we agree on that and that
>>> it's likely much more than $834K.
> 
>> Fair enough.
> 
> Check your source for this year. NRA-ILA has spent $177,679 so far, which is 'way less than
> Everytown for Gun Safety's $832,037, or Planned Parenthood's $1,063,911.
> 
> 
What gun laws does Planned Parenthood try to push?

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#689428 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-07 20:14 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pfd4pn$kef$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689396
In news:fntup0Fp19uU4@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/7/18 3:09 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fnot2cFbpqgU37@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> On 6/5/18 6:34 PM, !Jones wrote:
>>>> x-no-idiots: yes
>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:55:36 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>>>>> Also gave you a link from Politifact.

>>>>> The NRA should lose its non-profit status.

>> Because you don't like it.

>>>>> <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&type=P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2016>
>>>>> OR https://goo.gl/EYqxxo

>>>>> They do bypass laws to not have the donations be direct -- but the
>>>>> impact is the same.

>>>> Yeah, OK... look, I think that we actually agree in principle.  The
>>>> NRA represents a very wealthy and powerful industry and *controls*
>>>> vast resources.  The holy grail of this debate would be to document
>>>> exactly who is receiving NRA related resources and how much; if the
>>>> NRA proper gave a monitary contribution to a candidate, it would be
>>>> an open record... as above.

>>>> In that, the average donation is $5,263 and that's pretty much
>>>> chump change... I mean, yeah, I'd like it, but you don't *own* a
>>>> senator like the NRA owns 'em for $5K a pop. (I'll take a dozen,
>>>> please.) Also, did you see the disclaimer at the bottom?  E.g.:
>>>> "The organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money
>>>> came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or
>>>> employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families."

>>> I saw this and referenced it with the bypassing of the laws.

>>>> Me pint bein' that the NRA, itself, cannot legally write a check
>>>> to a candidate.  If they do, then they should lose their tax-exempt
>>>> status.

>>> They SHOULD lose it. They are clearly VERY politically active.

>>>> But, yeah... lots of money flows; I think we agree on that and that
>>>> it's likely much more than $834K.

>>> Fair enough.

>> Check your source for this year. NRA-ILA has spent $177,679 so far,
>> which is 'way less than Everytown for Gun Safety's $832,037, or
>> Planned Parenthood's $1,063,911.

> What gun laws does Planned Parenthood try to push?

Planned Parenthood has killed more Americans than all the guns ever made.

But I include it since you've mentioned it several times. 

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#689437 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnump2Fu72oU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689428
max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> In news:fntup0Fp19uU4@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/7/18 3:09 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fnot2cFbpqgU37@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> On 6/5/18 6:34 PM, !Jones wrote:
>>>>> x-no-idiots: yes
>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:55:36 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> Also gave you a link from Politifact.
> 
>>>>>> The NRA should lose its non-profit status.
> 
>>> Because you don't like it.
> 
>>>>>> <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&type=P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2016>
>>>>>> OR https://goo.gl/EYqxxo
> 
>>>>>> They do bypass laws to not have the donations be direct -- but the
>>>>>> impact is the same.
> 
>>>>> Yeah, OK... look, I think that we actually agree in principle.  The
>>>>> NRA represents a very wealthy and powerful industry and *controls*
>>>>> vast resources.  The holy grail of this debate would be to document
>>>>> exactly who is receiving NRA related resources and how much; if the
>>>>> NRA proper gave a monitary contribution to a candidate, it would be
>>>>> an open record... as above.
> 
>>>>> In that, the average donation is $5,263 and that's pretty much
>>>>> chump change... I mean, yeah, I'd like it, but you don't *own* a
>>>>> senator like the NRA owns 'em for $5K a pop. (I'll take a dozen,
>>>>> please.) Also, did you see the disclaimer at the bottom?  E.g.:
>>>>> "The organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money
>>>>> came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or
>>>>> employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families."
> 
>>>> I saw this and referenced it with the bypassing of the laws.
> 
>>>>> Me pint bein' that the NRA, itself, cannot legally write a check
>>>>> to a candidate.  If they do, then they should lose their tax-exempt
>>>>> status.
> 
>>>> They SHOULD lose it. They are clearly VERY politically active.
> 
>>>>> But, yeah... lots of money flows; I think we agree on that and that
>>>>> it's likely much more than $834K.
> 
>>>> Fair enough.
> 
>>> Check your source for this year. NRA-ILA has spent $177,679 so far,
>>> which is 'way less than Everytown for Gun Safety's $832,037, or
>>> Planned Parenthood's $1,063,911.
> 
>> What gun laws does Planned Parenthood try to push?
> 
> Planned Parenthood has killed more Americans than all the guns ever made.
> 
> But I include it since you've mentioned it several times. 
> 
> 
> 

Oh. That old silly off topic twist. Oy. 

Can we find common ground on the abortion issue that we should back
policies which have been shown to reduce abortions while still maintaining
rights?

I back that with abortion policy and arms policy. 

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#689461 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From!Jones <jones@fobahor.com>
Date2018-06-08 08:29 -0500
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<p4ukhdlcm8331otjfnades1ma71km673hq@4ax.com>
In reply to#689396
x-no-idiots: yes

On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 16:52:00 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>> Check your source for this year. NRA-ILA has spent $177,679 so far, which is 'way less than
>> Everytown for Gun Safety's $832,037, or Planned Parenthood's $1,063,911.

I don't know and I doubt that whoever wrote the above does, either.
This is particularly true when one includes the ILA because it's not a
501(c)(3) and doesn't have to open its books.

Thus, you have the NRA which is (essentially) only a name, an office
building on "lobby row", and a celebrity spokes-person.  This facet is
funded by dues and I would expect them to spend all of that just
keeping the lights on.  The NRA is prohibited from making political
contributions; contributions to the NRA are subject to open records...
and the last place a gun manufacturer wants to be found is making a
huge contribution to the NRA because they want to keep some distance
between them.

Under the NRA's banner, you find a whole network of political action
committees (PAC), "political victory funds", and various lobbies.  The
NRA may legally sponsor these and provide office space; however, the
NRA may not contribute money directly.  The largest of these is the
Institute for Legislative Action (ILA) which (I believe) is registered
as a lobby.  The ILA provides political market research and
"educational" advertising to candidates who support the NRA's
legislative goals... and we'd *love* to take a close look at the ILA's
budget!

That likely won't happen because their books are not open to public
perusal.  OTOH, saying that their combined budget is $178K (so far
this year) is ridiculous.

Jones

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#689487 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-08 08:20 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pfebk8$96r$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#689461
In news:p4ukhdlcm8331otjfnades1ma71km673hq@4ax.com,
!Jones <jones@fobahor.com> typed:

> x-big-liar: jones

> On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 16:52:00 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>>> Check your source for this year. NRA-ILA has spent $177,679 so far,
>>> which is 'way less than Everytown for Gun Safety's $832,037, or
>>> Planned Parenthood's $1,063,911.

> I don't know ...

That's never stopped Jones before.

> ... and I doubt that whoever wrote the above does, either.
> This is particularly true when one includes the ILA because it's not a
> 501(c)(3) and doesn't have to open its books.

The source for the numbers was mentioned in the post, which Jones conveniently snipped off.

> Thus, you have the NRA which is (essentially) only a name, an office
> building on "lobby row", and a celebrity spokes-person....

Once again Jones makes a bid for the Liars' Hall of Fame. 

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#689454 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-06-08 07:16 -0500
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<dsskhdlao6037vjr1dna5ar5mko9um3bga@4ax.com>
In reply to#688831
!Jones wrote:

>On 5 Jun 2018 04:19:52 GMT, in talk.politics.guns Snit
><usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

*plonk*

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#689460 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-08 06:25 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<b85db28d-614c-47dc-9bf4-218b71b1674f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#689454
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 5:16:24 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote:
> !Jones wrote:
> 
> >On 5 Jun 2018 04:19:52 GMT, in talk.politics.guns Snit
> ><usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
> *plonk*



At times, fantasy is more valuable than reality. Flooder Steve Carroll should realize everyone knows he is just being a moron! So he changed his story to Sandman responding to him. Sandman's computer has more memory than Flooder Steve Carroll's. Sandman wins. Flooder Steve Carroll loses. Nothing LCD about it. 



-- 
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#689462 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From!Jones <jones@fobahor.com>
Date2018-06-08 08:30 -0500
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<261lhd5h7kom12q87ub4ni118rcarmi54q@4ax.com>
In reply to#689454
x-no-idiots: yes

On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 07:16:21 -0500, in talk.politics.guns chrisv
<chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>!Jones wrote:
>
>>On 5 Jun 2018 04:19:52 GMT, in talk.politics.guns Snit
>><usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>*plonk*

I guess "chrisy" told me, huh?

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#688847 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-04 21:32 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<pf5a0b$pin$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#688812
In news:fnmhb7Fd8cdU3@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 00:30:00 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>>> Donations to the NRA tripled after the Parkland shooting

>> The *NRA* proper really doesn't do much more than break even on their
>> "donations" or membership fees.  They make very few political
>> contributions largely because they have a huge overhead.

> I have already shown otherwise. They pay off politicians heavily.

They'd lose their 501(c)(3) status if you could prove it. Go for it!

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#688626 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-04 00:34 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers.
Message-ID<fnk8cmFu9g4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688594
On 6/3/18 8:23 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
...
> You should have no trouble supporting your claims.
...
> 4.  You claim that we, as a country, work to stop research
>      to better understand the problem.
> 5.  You claim that we, as a country, work to stop research
>      to better understand possible solutions.

Will show both of these together, and need just one link for it:

<https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2595514>
-----
Funding and Publication of Research on Gun Violence and Other Leading 
Causes of Death
...
This study sought to determine whether funding and publication of gun 
violence research are disproportionately low relative to the mortality 
rate from this cause.
...
Compared with other leading causes of death, gun violence was associated 
with less funding and fewer publications than predicted based on 
mortality rate (Figure 1). Gun violence had 1.6% of the funding 
predicted ($1.4 billion predicted, $22 million observed) and had 4.5% of 
the volume of publications predicted (38 897 predicted, 1738 observed) 
from the regression analyses. Gun violence killed about as many 
individuals as sepsis. However, funding for gun violence research was 
about 0.7% of that for sepsis and publication volume about 4%. In 
relation to mortality rates, gun violence research was the 
least-researched cause of death and the second-least funded cause of 
death after falls (Figure 2).

Discussion

Between 2004 and 2015, gun violence research was substantially 
underfunded and understudied relative to other leading causes of death, 
based on mortality rates for each cause. Ladapo and colleagues5 
previously found a smaller-than-expected increase in gun violence 
publications between 1991 and 2010. The present study incorporates 
mortality and funding data, and demonstrates the magnitude of the 
research funding disparity.
...
Injury research has been generally undersupported6—a finding replicated 
in the present study. Gun violence had less funding and fewer 
publications than comparable injury-related causes of death including 
motor vehicle accidents and poisonings. Given that gun violence 
disproportionately affects the young and inflicts many more nonfatal 
injuries than deaths, it is likely that the true magnitude of research 
funding disparity, when considering years of potential life lost or 
lived with disability, is even greater.
-----

The figures are well worth looking at, esp. the top of Figure 1.

And there it is: all five of your requests fulfilled. And it was a fair 
request: people SHOULD back their claims, at least in any situation 
where they are asking others to accept their views.

As I said, my views are based on the evidence. If you have contrary 
evidence I would like to see it and will consider it.


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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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