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Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children!

Started bybenj <benj@nobody.net>
First post2018-05-31 02:37 -0400
Last post2018-06-03 09:06 -0700
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  Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:37 -0400
    Re:Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:16 +0200
      Re: Chelsea Handler says here armed guards don't kill children! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 03:51 -0400
    Slaughtering concert goers. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-31 05:22 -0700
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 12:06 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 10:02 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 15:49 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-31 20:12 +0000
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:20 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 16:37 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 19:57 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 17:12 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:38 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:32 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:42 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:54 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:22 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:36 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:07 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:31 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:47 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 08:50 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 22:53 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:39 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:16 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:29 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:43 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:33 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0400
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-05-31 19:49 -0500
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-05-31 17:51 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:26 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:39 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:13 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 03:21 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:46 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 08:12 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 08:27 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 11:59 -0700
                      Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ Slaughtering concert goers. ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-01 14:07 -0500
                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 18:50 -0700
                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:00 -0700
                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:29 -0700
                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:47 -0700
                                  Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:18 -0700
                                    Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 09:14 -0700
                                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:48 -0700
                                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:28 -0700
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:14 -0400
                                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                  Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-02 08:15 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 12:30 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 17:09 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:37 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:00 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:14 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:09 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:48 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 04:53 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:11 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:12 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 00:47 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:05 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:31 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:01 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:39 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:16 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:14 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:35 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:19 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:40 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:26 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:36 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:32 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:03 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:26 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:01 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:08 -0500
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:40 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:35 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:15 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:53 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:09 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:51 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:12 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 04:54 +0000
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:00 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 05:06 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:09 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:54 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                            The Supreme Court got it wrong. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:51 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 11:59 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:43 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:25 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:28 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:08 -0600
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 23:24 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:12 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:37 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:48 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:00 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:32 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 21:38 -0400
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:49 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:49 +0000
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:45 -0700
                                        Permission to breath ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 19:10 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:13 -0700
                                            Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-06-02 20:36 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:53 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 23:33 -0400
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:57 -0400
                                                    Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:08 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                            Clarity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-03 08:52 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:46 +0000
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:53 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 22:59 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 23:19 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 09:10 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:31 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:12 +0000
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:26 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:37 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:10 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:54 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 22:19 -0500
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:58 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 00:24 -0400
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 07:17 +0000
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:21 -0700
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 16:07 +0000
                                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:30 -0700
                                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:32 +0000
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:34 -0700
                                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:50 -0700
                                                      "Natural Rights" aren't always wonderful. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 19:02 -0700
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:49 -0700
                                                  Depressed Losers, slaughtering consert goers, is "natural" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:21 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 02:18 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:25 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:38 -0400
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:16 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:46 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:53 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-02 01:20 -0400
                        Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:27 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:14 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:38 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:57 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:29 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:57 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:25 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:53 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:29 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:09 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 21:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:32 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:59 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:02 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:03 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:38 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:53 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:16 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:33 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:38 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 13:17 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:21 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:40 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:47 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:57 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:05 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:13 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:40 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:39 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:54 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:01 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:02 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:13 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:39 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:54 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:05 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:41 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:07 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:14 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:21 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-03 20:11 -0500
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:43 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:45 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:40 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 12:03 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 12:05 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 00:47 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:11 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:13 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:21 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 20:37 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:11 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 17:59 -0400
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 15:05 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:27 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:44 -0400
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:42 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:27 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:47 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-04 23:47 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:51 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:19 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 09:37 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:51 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:18 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:32 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:35 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:48 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 07:48 -0500
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:27 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:30 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 08:55 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:32 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:34 -0500
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:54 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:51 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:45 -0500
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:15 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:41 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:11 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:17 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:50 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:01 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:32 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:06 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 05:15 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0500
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:11 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:30 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:54 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:42 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:50 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:07 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:25 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:37 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:51 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:00 -0500
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 06:26 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:28 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:27 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:07 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:44 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:19 -0600
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:23 -0600
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 20:31 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 22:09 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 23:48 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:47 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:44 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:10 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:19 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 23:53 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:57 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:22 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-04 02:48 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:58 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:19 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 20:56 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:26 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:45 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 01:30 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:00 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:45 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:48 -0500
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:15 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 15:20 -0500
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:55 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:34 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:52 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:57 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:52 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 20:14 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:29 -0500
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:20 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:16 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 06:25 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:30 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:32 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:34 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:07 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:27 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 17:07 -0600
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 16:18 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 16:46 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 17:04 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:13 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 20:16 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:41 -0500
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 02:29 -0600
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:50 -0500
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:41 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:38 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 10:01 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 12:55 -0500
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 07:58 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 11:56 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-05 14:58 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 12:17 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:02 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:45 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 14:51 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:56 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:02 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:47 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:51 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-05 22:44 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:04 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:50 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:05 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:11 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:20 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:42 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:46 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:46 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:15 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:45 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:13 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:36 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:07 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:01 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:08 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:29 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:02 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:07 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:52 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-09 02:13 -0400
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 23:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 06:22 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:16 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 08:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:50 +0000
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 09:23 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:51 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 10:29 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 21:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 14:33 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 14:54 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 14:56 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:04 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:02 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 13:42 -0600
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:32 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 16:24 -0600
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 17:31 -0600
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 23:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:57 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:59 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:07 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:31 -0400
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                      Truth Avoidance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:11 -0700
                                                                        Re: Truth Avoidance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 10:09 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:20 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:31 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 18:41 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 17:08 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 17:11 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:32 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:53 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 00:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 02:01 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:03 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:20 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:33 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:11 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-07 05:56 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 22:05 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:05 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:46 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:23 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:26 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:09 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:52 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:08 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:18 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:14 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 11:55 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:07 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:50 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:12 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:56 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:07 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:38 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:57 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:45 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:18 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:17 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:10 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:01 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:36 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:51 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:39 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 13:29 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 11:09 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 17:20 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 14:35 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:08 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:26 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:42 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:32 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:37 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 17:57 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:30 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:51 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:32 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:09 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:12 -0600
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:53 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:59 -0600
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:02 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:24 -0600
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:01 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 19:51 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:56 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 20:21 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:24 -0700
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#688325 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-02 13:29 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fngd1sF8a4tU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688320
On 6/2/18 1:27 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:57:54 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/2/18 10:38 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:14:41 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/2/18 6:27 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>> A well regulated Militia [ no comma ]
>>>>>> being necessary to the security of a free State, ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, more clearly: " For The State's Militia, ... "
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>>>
>>>> And when stating "no comma", keep in mind there were something like
>>>> seven different versions of the second amendment with different commas
>>>> and capitalization.
>>>
>>> Cool- how many of the say "The right of the state"????
>>>
>> I do not think that phrase is in the constitution
> 
> Correct.
> 
Are you just looking for specific phrases or are you trying to get to a 
point? I suspect you are trying to say that since that phrase is not 
there this means the concept of what the states can do (what they have 
rights to do) is not there. Is that correct? If not did you have a 
broader point?

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#688365 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-06-02 16:57 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<mlb6hddmrhtfk9tumrle8h9id6m0q94hin@4ax.com>
In reply to#688325
On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 13:29:48 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>On 6/2/18 1:27 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:57:54 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 6/2/18 10:38 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:14:41 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/2/18 6:27 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>> A well regulated Militia [ no comma ]
>>>>>>> being necessary to the security of a free State, ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or, more clearly: " For The State's Militia, ... "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And when stating "no comma", keep in mind there were something like
>>>>> seven different versions of the second amendment with different commas
>>>>> and capitalization.
>>>>
>>>> Cool- how many of the say "The right of the state"????
>>>>
>>> I do not think that phrase is in the constitution
>> 
>> Correct.
>> 
>Are you just looking for specific phrases or are you trying to get to a 
>point? I suspect you are trying to say that since that phrase is not 
>there this means the concept of what the states can do (what they have 
>rights to do) is not there. Is that correct? If not did you have a 
>broader point?

No, you're not even close.

It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
right, not the feds' right.

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#688378 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688365
Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 13:29:48 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/2/18 1:27 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:57:54 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 6/2/18 10:38 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:14:41 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/2/18 6:27 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>>> A well regulated Militia [ no comma ]
>>>>>>>> being necessary to the security of a free State, ...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or, more clearly: " For The State's Militia, ... "
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And when stating "no comma", keep in mind there were something like
>>>>>> seven different versions of the second amendment with different commas
>>>>>> and capitalization.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cool- how many of the say "The right of the state"????
>>>>> 
>>>> I do not think that phrase is in the constitution
>>> 
>>> Correct.
>>> 
>> Are you just looking for specific phrases or are you trying to get to a 
>> point? I suspect you are trying to say that since that phrase is not 
>> there this means the concept of what the states can do (what they have 
>> rights to do) is not there. Is that correct? If not did you have a 
>> broader point?
> 
> No, you're not even close.
> 
> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
> right, not the feds' right.
> 

That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough. 

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#688386 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-02 18:25 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<pevgcs$uks$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#688378
In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 13:29:48 -0700, Snit
>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/2/18 1:27 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:57:54 -0700, Snit
>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/2/18 10:38 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:14:41 -0700, Snit
>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 6:27 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:

>>>>>>>>> A well regulated Militia [ no comma ]
>>>>>>>>> being necessary to the security of a free State, ...

>>>>>>>> Or, more clearly: " For The State's Militia, ... "

>>>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

>>>>>>> And when stating "no comma", keep in mind there were something
>>>>>>> like seven different versions of the second amendment with
>>>>>>> different commas and capitalization.

>>>>>> Cool- how many of the say "The right of the state"????

>>>>> I do not think that phrase is in the constitution

>>>> Correct.

>>> Are you just looking for specific phrases or are you trying to get
>>> to a point? I suspect you are trying to say that since that phrase
>>> is not there this means the concept of what the states can do (what
>>> they have rights to do) is not there. Is that correct? If not did
>>> you have a broader point?

>> No, you're not even close.

>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>> right, not the feds' right.

> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.

It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of America. Now show us your hand.

Oh, right. You already did. 

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#688391 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-02 18:53 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fngvvuFbk5tU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688386
On 6/2/18 6:25 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 13:29:48 -0700, Snit
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/18 1:27 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:57:54 -0700, Snit
>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/2/18 10:38 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:14:41 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 6:27 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>> A well regulated Militia [ no comma ]
>>>>>>>>>> being necessary to the security of a free State, ...
> 
>>>>>>>>> Or, more clearly: " For The State's Militia, ... "
> 
>>>>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
> 
>>>>>>>> And when stating "no comma", keep in mind there were something
>>>>>>>> like seven different versions of the second amendment with
>>>>>>>> different commas and capitalization.
> 
>>>>>>> Cool- how many of the say "The right of the state"????
> 
>>>>>> I do not think that phrase is in the constitution
> 
>>>>> Correct.
> 
>>>> Are you just looking for specific phrases or are you trying to get
>>>> to a point? I suspect you are trying to say that since that phrase
>>>> is not there this means the concept of what the states can do (what
>>>> they have rights to do) is not there. Is that correct? If not did
>>>> you have a broader point?
> 
>>> No, you're not even close.
> 
>>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>>> right, not the feds' right.
> 
>> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.
> 
> It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of America. Now show us your hand.
> 
> Oh, right. You already did.
> 
> 
Well, the SCOTUS also talked of limits, but the fact that they acted 
with judicial activism and went against the law as written has been 
covered. I am not denying it in any way.

But nice try. :)

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#688398 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-02 19:29 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<pevkbc$f79$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#688391
In news:fngvvuFbk5tU8@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/2/18 6:25 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:

>>>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>>>> right, not the feds' right.

>>> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.

>> It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of America.
>> Now show us your hand.

>> Oh, right. You already did.

> Well, the SCOTUS also talked of limits, but the fact that they acted
> with judicial activism and went against the law as written...

Bullshit.

> ... has been covered. I am not denying it in any way.

> But nice try. :)

No, it wasn't. It's been tried before, and it's been beaten down before. 

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#688406 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-02 20:09 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fnh4fqFcb78U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688398
On 6/2/18 7:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fngvvuFbk5tU8@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/2/18 6:25 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>>>>> right, not the feds' right.
> 
>>>> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.
> 
>>> It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of America.
>>> Now show us your hand.
> 
>>> Oh, right. You already did.
> 
>> Well, the SCOTUS also talked of limits, but the fact that they acted
>> with judicial activism and went against the law as written...
> 
> Bullshit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
-----
A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era 
American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, 
yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early 
Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 
1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, 
that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th 
and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or 
organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural 
meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military. But we 
shouldn’t need big data to tell us this. “Bear arms” has never worked 
comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or 
target practice.
-----

Not really that complex. :)

>> ... has been covered. I am not denying it in any way.
> 
>> But nice try. :)
> 
> No, it wasn't. It's been tried before, and it's been beaten down before.

Even with the judicial activism of Heller, it was not as friendly to the 
NRA crowd as some like to push.

It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits carrying 
an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock requirement 
insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in the home."

It is about having a common handgun in your home, not about carrying one 
around, no less other arms. It even specifically speaks of acceptance of 
"limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by 
the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes".

It also notes that "the Second Amendment right is not unlimited" and 
specifically states "It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon 
whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose" and that 
this does not mean we cannot have "laws forbidding the carrying of 
firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, 
or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of 
arms" and it "finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting 
the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons".



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#688422 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-02 21:02 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<pevpgv$1a0$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#688406
In news:fnh4fqFcb78U3@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/2/18 7:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fngvvuFbk5tU8@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> On 6/2/18 6:25 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:

>>>>>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>>>>>> right, not the feds' right.

>>>>> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.

>>>> It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of
>>>> America. Now show us your hand.

>>>> Oh, right. You already did.

>>> Well, the SCOTUS also talked of limits, but the fact that they acted
>>> with judicial activism and went against the law as written...

>> Bullshit.

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html

<yawn>  Again with the screed from the ignored academic with an ax to grind.

>>> ... has been covered. I am not denying it in any way.

>>> But nice try. :)

>> No, it wasn't. It's been tried before, and it's been beaten down
>> before.

> Even with the judicial activism of Heller, it was not as friendly to the
> NRA crowd as some like to push.

It was a good start. After Trump appoints another justice or two, we can expand them. :) 

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#688427 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-02 21:32 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fnh9b2Fd558U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688422
On 6/2/18 9:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fnh4fqFcb78U3@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/2/18 7:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fngvvuFbk5tU8@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> On 6/2/18 6:25 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>>>>>>> right, not the feds' right.
> 
>>>>>> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.
> 
>>>>> It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of
>>>>> America. Now show us your hand.
> 
>>>>> Oh, right. You already did.
> 
>>>> Well, the SCOTUS also talked of limits, but the fact that they acted
>>>> with judicial activism and went against the law as written...
> 
>>> Bullshit.
> 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
> 
> <yawn>  Again with the screed from the ignored academic with an ax to grind.

As long as you look at the actual meaning of the words and claim they 
are nothing but a "screed" there is no agreement.

And I am OK with that. You can disagree. No harm in it.

So, how is the weather in your neck of the woods?

>>>> ... has been covered. I am not denying it in any way.
> 
>>>> But nice try. :)
> 
>>> No, it wasn't. It's been tried before, and it's been beaten down
>>> before.
> 
>> Even with the judicial activism of Heller, it was not as friendly to the
>> NRA crowd as some like to push.
> 
> It was a good start. After Trump appoints another justice or two, we can expand them. :)

I do not think judicial activism is "a good start".


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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#688455 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-03 07:59 -0400
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<cLQQC.219874$go7.151732@fx08.iad>
In reply to#688422
On 6/3/2018 12:02 AM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fnh4fqFcb78U3@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/2/18 7:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fngvvuFbk5tU8@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> On 6/2/18 6:25 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>>>>>>> right, not the feds' right.
> 
>>>>>> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.
> 
>>>>> It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of
>>>>> America. Now show us your hand.
> 
>>>>> Oh, right. You already did.
> 
>>>> Well, the SCOTUS also talked of limits, but the fact that they acted
>>>> with judicial activism and went against the law as written...
> 
>>> Bullshit.
> 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
> 
> <yawn>  Again with the screed from the ignored academic with an ax to grind.
> 
>>>> ... has been covered. I am not denying it in any way.
> 
>>>> But nice try. :)
> 
>>> No, it wasn't. It's been tried before, and it's been beaten down
>>> before.
> 
>> Even with the judicial activism of Heller, it was not as friendly to the
>> NRA crowd as some like to push.
> 
> It was a good start. After Trump appoints another justice or two, we can expand them. :)
> 
> 
No Question. Gorsuch was what gun-grabbers like to term "a good first 
step"!

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#688451 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-06-03 04:02 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<3li7hd5vpe5pkt946gm3i6nvlk6q1q2o6i@4ax.com>
In reply to#688391
On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 18:53:02 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>On 6/2/18 6:25 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>> 
>>> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 13:29:48 -0700, Snit
>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/2/18 1:27 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:57:54 -0700, Snit
>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 10:38 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:14:41 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 6:27 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> A well regulated Militia [ no comma ]
>>>>>>>>>>> being necessary to the security of a free State, ...
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Or, more clearly: " For The State's Militia, ... "
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>> 
>>>>>>>>> And when stating "no comma", keep in mind there were something
>>>>>>>>> like seven different versions of the second amendment with
>>>>>>>>> different commas and capitalization.
>> 
>>>>>>>> Cool- how many of the say "The right of the state"????
>> 
>>>>>>> I do not think that phrase is in the constitution
>> 
>>>>>> Correct.
>> 
>>>>> Are you just looking for specific phrases or are you trying to get
>>>>> to a point? I suspect you are trying to say that since that phrase
>>>>> is not there this means the concept of what the states can do (what
>>>>> they have rights to do) is not there. Is that correct? If not did
>>>>> you have a broader point?
>> 
>>>> No, you're not even close.
>> 
>>>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>>>> right, not the feds' right.
>> 
>>> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.
>> 
>> It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of America. Now show us your hand.
>> 
>> Oh, right. You already did.

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>Well, the SCOTUS also talked of limits,[..]

People's right. Got anything else?

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#688488 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-03 11:03 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fnior9Fm0j7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688451
On 6/3/18 4:02 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 18:53:02 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/2/18 6:25 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>
>>>> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 13:29:48 -0700, Snit
>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/2/18 1:27 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:57:54 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 10:38 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:14:41 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 6:27 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A well regulated Militia [ no comma ]
>>>>>>>>>>>> being necessary to the security of a free State, ...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or, more clearly: " For The State's Militia, ... "
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And when stating "no comma", keep in mind there were something
>>>>>>>>>> like seven different versions of the second amendment with
>>>>>>>>>> different commas and capitalization.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cool- how many of the say "The right of the state"????
>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not think that phrase is in the constitution
>>>
>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>
>>>>>> Are you just looking for specific phrases or are you trying to get
>>>>>> to a point? I suspect you are trying to say that since that phrase
>>>>>> is not there this means the concept of what the states can do (what
>>>>>> they have rights to do) is not there. Is that correct? If not did
>>>>>> you have a broader point?
>>>
>>>>> No, you're not even close.
>>>
>>>>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>>>>> right, not the feds' right.
>>>
>>>> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.
>>>
>>> It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of America. Now show us your hand.
>>>
>>> Oh, right. You already did.
> 
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> 
> 
>> Well, the SCOTUS also talked of limits,[..]
> 
> People's right. Got anything else?
> 
Sure. Things such as the actual meaning of the words / phrases, the 
dislike of judicial activism, etc.

Remember, my views are clear and easy to support:

* The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
   action".

* Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
   a hard sale to say they were against the second
   amendment.

* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
   the states rights view.

* We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
   laws.

* We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
   arms... what one could call "infringements".

* We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
   else that is tied to death and injuries.

* I back evidence-based policies.



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#688490 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-06-03 11:12 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<vob8hdlhutbhj3moifjl9rs7itkuqrq1nq@4ax.com>
In reply to#688488
On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 11:03:21 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>On 6/3/18 4:02 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 18:53:02 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 6/2/18 6:25 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:fngs46Fb1d7U6@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 13:29:48 -0700, Snit
>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 1:27 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:57:54 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 10:38 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 10:14:41 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 6:27 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A well regulated Militia [ no comma ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being necessary to the security of a free State, ...
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or, more clearly: " For The State's Militia, ... "
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And when stating "no comma", keep in mind there were something
>>>>>>>>>>> like seven different versions of the second amendment with
>>>>>>>>>>> different commas and capitalization.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cool- how many of the say "The right of the state"????
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do not think that phrase is in the constitution
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you just looking for specific phrases or are you trying to get
>>>>>>> to a point? I suspect you are trying to say that since that phrase
>>>>>>> is not there this means the concept of what the states can do (what
>>>>>>> they have rights to do) is not there. Is that correct? If not did
>>>>>>> you have a broader point?
>>>>
>>>>>> No, you're not even close.
>>>>
>>>>>> It's the people's right, not the militia's right, not the state's
>>>>>> right, not the feds' right.
>>>>
>>>>> That is your unsupported opinion. Fair enough.
>>>>
>>>> It's supported by the Supreme Court of the United States of America. Now show us your hand.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, right. You already did.
>> 
>> ==================================================
>> ==================================================
>> =================    WARNING! ========================
>>                                       GOAL POST MOVES AHEAD!
>> =================    WARNING! ========================
>> ==================================================
>> ==================================================
>> 
>> 
>>> Well, the SCOTUS also talked of limits,[..]
>> 
>> People's right. Got anything else?
>> 
>Sure. Things such as the actual meaning of the words / phrases, the 
>dislike of judicial activism, etc.
>
>Remember, my views are clear and easy to support:
>
>* The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
>   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
>   action".

It certainly can mean that.

>* Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
>   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
>   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
>   a hard sale to say they were against the second
>   amendment.

Wrong.  It ONLY means they were never challenged.

>* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>   the states rights view.

It says "right of the people," not the states.

>* We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
>   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
>   laws.

They don't. That's leftist fantasy.

>* We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
>   arms... what one could call "infringements".

If you say so. 

>* We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
>   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
>   else that is tied to death and injuries.

Nobody is against research.

>* I back evidence-based policies.

Good for you.

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#688496 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-03 11:38 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fniqtjFm0j7U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688490
On 6/3/18 11:12 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
...
>> Remember, my views are clear and easy to support:
>>
>> * The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
>>    exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
>>    action".
> 
> It certainly can mean that.

And it is pretty much exclusively how it was used at the time of the 
founding. But you wish to twist the meaning to something else, even 
though the context of the militia is noted in the amendment itself!

>> * Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
>>    the country which were never, as far as I can find,
>>    challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
>>    a hard sale to say they were against the second
>>    amendment.
> 
> Wrong.  It ONLY means they were never challenged.

Such laws were common. No reason to think they would not be challenged 
if they were seen as unconstitutional!

>> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>>    the states rights view.
> 
> It says "right of the people," not the states.

So you avoided my point there. OK.

>> * We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
>>    mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
>>    laws.
> 
> They don't. That's leftist fantasy.

They clearly and unambiguously do. After ever mass shootings their 
donations surge.

>> * We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
>>    arms... what one could call "infringements".
> 
> If you say so.

It is merely a fact.

>> * We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
>>    we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
>>    else that is tied to death and injuries.

> Nobody is against research.

<https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2595514>

>> * I back evidence-based policies.
> 
> Good for you.

I wish more people joined me in that. Notice how my claims are all VERY 
easy to support.


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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#688498 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-06-03 11:53 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<ctd8hd91qb82ra3b5np32mniuicp9rsn2e@4ax.com>
In reply to#688496
On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 11:38:43 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>On 6/3/18 11:12 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>...
>>> Remember, my views are clear and easy to support:
>>>
>>> * The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
>>>    exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
>>>    action".
>> 
>> It certainly can mean that.
>
>And it is pretty much exclusively

But not 100%. So your argument is useless.



> how it was used at the time of the 
>founding. But you wish to twist the meaning to something else, even 
>though the context of the militia is noted in the amendment itself!

No meanings are twisted here, except by gun grabbing leftists.

>
>>> * Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
>>>    the country which were never, as far as I can find,
>>>    challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
>>>    a hard sale to say they were against the second
>>>    amendment.
>> 
>> Wrong.  It ONLY means they were never challenged.
>
>Such laws were common. No reason to think they would not be challenged 
>if they were seen as unconstitutional!

It ONLY means they were never challenged. If they existed at all.

>>> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>>>    the states rights view.
>> 
>> It says "right of the people," not the states.
>
>So you avoided my point there. OK.

As you keep avoiding mine. I understand-- hard to argue that ol'
"right of the people" thing, ain't it?

>>> * We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
>>>    mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
>>>    laws.
>> 
>> They don't. That's leftist fantasy.
>
>They clearly and unambiguously do. After ever mass shootings their 
>donations surge.

Just your paranoid fantasies.


>>> * We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
>>>    arms... what one could call "infringements".
>> 
>> If you say so.
>
>It is merely a fact.

And it means nothing.

>>> * We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
>>>    we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
>>>    else that is tied to death and injuries.
>
>> Nobody is against research.
>
><https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2595514>

Nobody is against research. Most normal people know it shouldn't be
done by the Center for DISEASE Control, since it's not a disease.

>>> * I back evidence-based policies.
>> 
>> Good for you.
>
>I wish more people joined me in that. Notice how my claims are all VERY 
>easy to support.

Well, actually, they're not. Your "research" argument is a prime
example of leftist lies and bullshit.

Your "NRA Controls The Government" bullshit is a close second.

etc etc etc.

[yawn]

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#688500 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-03 12:04 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fnisddFm0j7U9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688498
On 6/3/18 11:53 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 11:38:43 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/3/18 11:12 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> ...
>>>> Remember, my views are clear and easy to support:
>>>>
>>>> * The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
>>>>     exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
>>>>     action".
>>>
>>> It certainly can mean that.
>>
>> And it is pretty much exclusively
> 
> But not 100%. So your argument is useless.

It is of great use to those who want to understand the meaning and not 
twist it. So, sure, of no use to you. I can see that.

>> how it was used at the time of the
>> founding. But you wish to twist the meaning to something else, even
>> though the context of the militia is noted in the amendment itself!
> 
> No meanings are twisted here, except by gun grabbing leftists.

Who said anything about "gun grabbing"? Not I!

Why do you move goal posts like that?

>>>> * Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
>>>>     the country which were never, as far as I can find,
>>>>     challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
>>>>     a hard sale to say they were against the second
>>>>     amendment.
>>>
>>> Wrong.  It ONLY means they were never challenged.
>>
>> Such laws were common. No reason to think they would not be challenged
>> if they were seen as unconstitutional!
> 
> It ONLY means they were never challenged. If they existed at all.

They did exist and, of course, there is value in knowing that but since 
it does not fit your bias you reject it.

Notice how I do not reject data. It is not as though I ignore the 5:4 
Heller decision and insist it is not the law of the land. While I do not 
like judicial activism I do not deny it exists or deny the impacts of it.

>>>> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>>>>     the states rights view.
>>>
>>> It says "right of the people," not the states.
>>
>> So you avoided my point there. OK.
> 
> As you keep avoiding mine. I understand-- hard to argue that ol'
> "right of the people" thing, ain't it?

I have spoken of your twisting of the meaning... but this STILL is not 
relevant to the point. Again:

* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
   the states rights view.

>>>> * We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
>>>>     mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
>>>>     laws.
>>>
>>> They don't. That's leftist fantasy.
>>
>> They clearly and unambiguously do. After ever mass shootings their
>> donations surge.
> 
> Just your paranoid fantasies.

See: you deny facts that do not fit your bias. That makes you incapable 
of having a reasoned conversation, at least on this topic.

>>>> * We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
>>>>     arms... what one could call "infringements".
>>>
>>> If you say so.
>>
>> It is merely a fact.
> 
> And it means nothing.

I think such reasonable and legal infringements do mean something. 
Interesting how you do not. Fair enough.

>>>> * We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
>>>>     we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
>>>>     else that is tied to death and injuries.
>>
>>> Nobody is against research.
>>
>> <https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2595514>
> 
> Nobody is against research. Most normal people know it shouldn't be
> done by the Center for DISEASE Control, since it's not a disease.

Many of the things listed there are not diseases, nor was the research 
looked at limited to CDC funded research. Why push such a twist as you 
did there?

>>>> * I back evidence-based policies.
>>>
>>> Good for you.
>>
>> I wish more people joined me in that. Notice how my claims are all VERY
>> easy to support.
> 
> Well, actually, they're not. Your "research" argument is a prime
> example of leftist lies and bullshit.
> 
> Your "NRA Controls The Government" bullshit is a close second.
> 
> etc etc etc.
> 
> [yawn]
> 
I do not back your emotional-charged views but I support your right to 
present them. Fair enough.

I prefer to stick to the evidence and supportable data.

-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#688503 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-03 12:16 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<bau4aq.v7p.17.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#688500
On 2018-06-03 12:04 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/3/18 11:53 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 11:38:43 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/3/18 11:12 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> Remember, my views are clear and easy to support:
>>>>>
>>>>> * The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
>>>>>     exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
>>>>>     action".
>>>>
>>>> It certainly can mean that.
>>>
>>> And it is pretty much exclusively
>>
>> But not 100%. So your argument is useless.
> 
> It is of great use to those who want to understand the meaning and not 
> twist it. So, sure, of no use to you. I can see that.
> 
>>> how it was used at the time of the
>>> founding. But you wish to twist the meaning to something else, even
>>> though the context of the militia is noted in the amendment itself!
>>
>> No meanings are twisted here, except by gun grabbing leftists.
> 
> Who said anything about "gun grabbing"? Not I!
> 
> Why do you move goal posts like that?
> 
>>>>> * Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
>>>>>     the country which were never, as far as I can find,
>>>>>     challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
>>>>>     a hard sale to say they were against the second
>>>>>     amendment.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong.  It ONLY means they were never challenged.
>>>
>>> Such laws were common. No reason to think they would not be challenged
>>> if they were seen as unconstitutional!
>>
>> It ONLY means they were never challenged. If they existed at all.
> 
> They did exist and, of course, there is value in knowing that but since 
> it does not fit your bias you reject it.
> 
> Notice how I do not reject data. It is not as though I ignore the 5:4 
> Heller decision and insist it is not the law of the land. While I do not 
> like judicial activism I do not deny it exists or deny the impacts of it.
> 
>>>>> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>>>>>     the states rights view.
>>>>
>>>> It says "right of the people," not the states.
>>>
>>> So you avoided my point there. OK.
>>
>> As you keep avoiding mine. I understand-- hard to argue that ol'
>> "right of the people" thing, ain't it?
> 
> I have spoken of your twisting of the meaning... but this STILL is not 
> relevant to the point. Again:
> 
> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>    the states rights view.
> 
>>>>> * We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
>>>>>     mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
>>>>>     laws.
>>>>
>>>> They don't. That's leftist fantasy.
>>>
>>> They clearly and unambiguously do. After ever mass shootings their
>>> donations surge.
>>
>> Just your paranoid fantasies.
> 
> See: you deny facts that do not fit your bias. That makes you incapable 
> of having a reasoned conversation, at least on this topic.
> 
>>>>> * We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
>>>>>     arms... what one could call "infringements".
>>>>
>>>> If you say so.
>>>
>>> It is merely a fact.
>>
>> And it means nothing.
> 
> I think such reasonable and legal infringements do mean something. 
> Interesting how you do not. Fair enough.
> 
>>>>> * We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
>>>>>     we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
>>>>>     else that is tied to death and injuries.
>>>
>>>> Nobody is against research.
>>>
>>> <https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2595514>
>>
>> Nobody is against research. Most normal people know it shouldn't be
>> done by the Center for DISEASE Control, since it's not a disease.
> 
> Many of the things listed there are not diseases, nor was the research 
> looked at limited to CDC funded research. Why push such a twist as you 
> did there?
> 
>>>>> * I back evidence-based policies.
>>>>
>>>> Good for you.
>>>
>>> I wish more people joined me in that. Notice how my claims are all VERY
>>> easy to support.
>>
>> Well, actually, they're not. Your "research" argument is a prime
>> example of leftist lies and bullshit.
>>
>> Your "NRA Controls The Government" bullshit is a close second.
>>
>> etc etc etc.
>>
>> [yawn]
>>
> I do not back your emotional-charged views but I support your right to 
> present them. Fair enough.
> 
> I prefer to stick to the evidence and supportable data.
> 
none of this will raise your income

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#688506 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-03 12:26 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fnitn4Fm0isU11@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688503
On 6/3/18 12:16 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-06-03 12:04 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/3/18 11:53 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 11:38:43 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/3/18 11:12 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>> Remember, my views are clear and easy to support:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
>>>>>>     exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
>>>>>>     action".
>>>>>
>>>>> It certainly can mean that.
>>>>
>>>> And it is pretty much exclusively
>>>
>>> But not 100%. So your argument is useless.
>>
>> It is of great use to those who want to understand the meaning and not 
>> twist it. So, sure, of no use to you. I can see that.
>>
>>>> how it was used at the time of the
>>>> founding. But you wish to twist the meaning to something else, even
>>>> though the context of the militia is noted in the amendment itself!
>>>
>>> No meanings are twisted here, except by gun grabbing leftists.
>>
>> Who said anything about "gun grabbing"? Not I!
>>
>> Why do you move goal posts like that?
>>
>>>>>> * Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
>>>>>>     the country which were never, as far as I can find,
>>>>>>     challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
>>>>>>     a hard sale to say they were against the second
>>>>>>     amendment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong.  It ONLY means they were never challenged.
>>>>
>>>> Such laws were common. No reason to think they would not be challenged
>>>> if they were seen as unconstitutional!
>>>
>>> It ONLY means they were never challenged. If they existed at all.
>>
>> They did exist and, of course, there is value in knowing that but 
>> since it does not fit your bias you reject it.
>>
>> Notice how I do not reject data. It is not as though I ignore the 5:4 
>> Heller decision and insist it is not the law of the land. While I do 
>> not like judicial activism I do not deny it exists or deny the impacts 
>> of it.
>>
>>>>>> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>>>>>>     the states rights view.
>>>>>
>>>>> It says "right of the people," not the states.
>>>>
>>>> So you avoided my point there. OK.
>>>
>>> As you keep avoiding mine. I understand-- hard to argue that ol'
>>> "right of the people" thing, ain't it?
>>
>> I have spoken of your twisting of the meaning... but this STILL is not 
>> relevant to the point. Again:
>>
>> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>>    the states rights view.
>>
>>>>>> * We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
>>>>>>     mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
>>>>>>     laws.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't. That's leftist fantasy.
>>>>
>>>> They clearly and unambiguously do. After ever mass shootings their
>>>> donations surge.
>>>
>>> Just your paranoid fantasies.
>>
>> See: you deny facts that do not fit your bias. That makes you 
>> incapable of having a reasoned conversation, at least on this topic.
>>
>>>>>> * We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
>>>>>>     arms... what one could call "infringements".
>>>>>
>>>>> If you say so.
>>>>
>>>> It is merely a fact.
>>>
>>> And it means nothing.
>>
>> I think such reasonable and legal infringements do mean something. 
>> Interesting how you do not. Fair enough.
>>
>>>>>> * We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
>>>>>>     we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
>>>>>>     else that is tied to death and injuries.
>>>>
>>>>> Nobody is against research.
>>>>
>>>> <https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2595514>
>>>
>>> Nobody is against research. Most normal people know it shouldn't be
>>> done by the Center for DISEASE Control, since it's not a disease.
>>
>> Many of the things listed there are not diseases, nor was the research 
>> looked at limited to CDC funded research. Why push such a twist as you 
>> did there?
>>
>>>>>> * I back evidence-based policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good for you.
>>>>
>>>> I wish more people joined me in that. Notice how my claims are all VERY
>>>> easy to support.
>>>
>>> Well, actually, they're not. Your "research" argument is a prime
>>> example of leftist lies and bullshit.
>>>
>>> Your "NRA Controls The Government" bullshit is a close second.
>>>
>>> etc etc etc.
>>>
>>> [yawn]
>>>
>> I do not back your emotional-charged views but I support your right to 
>> present them. Fair enough.
>>
>> I prefer to stick to the evidence and supportable data.
>>
> none of this will raise your income

Actually sticking to evidence and supportable data helps my income. :)

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#688508 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-03 12:33 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<bau5aq.v7p.17.15@news.alt.net>
In reply to#688506
On 2018-06-03 12:26 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/3/18 12:16 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-06-03 12:04 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/3/18 11:53 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 11:38:43 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/3/18 11:12 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Remember, my views are clear and easy to support:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
>>>>>>>     exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
>>>>>>>     action".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It certainly can mean that.
>>>>>
>>>>> And it is pretty much exclusively
>>>>
>>>> But not 100%. So your argument is useless.
>>>
>>> It is of great use to those who want to understand the meaning and 
>>> not twist it. So, sure, of no use to you. I can see that.
>>>
>>>>> how it was used at the time of the
>>>>> founding. But you wish to twist the meaning to something else, even
>>>>> though the context of the militia is noted in the amendment itself!
>>>>
>>>> No meanings are twisted here, except by gun grabbing leftists.
>>>
>>> Who said anything about "gun grabbing"? Not I!
>>>
>>> Why do you move goal posts like that?
>>>
>>>>>>> * Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
>>>>>>>     the country which were never, as far as I can find,
>>>>>>>     challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
>>>>>>>     a hard sale to say they were against the second
>>>>>>>     amendment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong.  It ONLY means they were never challenged.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such laws were common. No reason to think they would not be challenged
>>>>> if they were seen as unconstitutional!
>>>>
>>>> It ONLY means they were never challenged. If they existed at all.
>>>
>>> They did exist and, of course, there is value in knowing that but 
>>> since it does not fit your bias you reject it.
>>>
>>> Notice how I do not reject data. It is not as though I ignore the 5:4 
>>> Heller decision and insist it is not the law of the land. While I do 
>>> not like judicial activism I do not deny it exists or deny the 
>>> impacts of it.
>>>
>>>>>>> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>>>>>>>     the states rights view.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It says "right of the people," not the states.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you avoided my point there. OK.
>>>>
>>>> As you keep avoiding mine. I understand-- hard to argue that ol'
>>>> "right of the people" thing, ain't it?
>>>
>>> I have spoken of your twisting of the meaning... but this STILL is 
>>> not relevant to the point. Again:
>>>
>>> * Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
>>>    the states rights view.
>>>
>>>>>>> * We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
>>>>>>>     mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
>>>>>>>     laws.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They don't. That's leftist fantasy.
>>>>>
>>>>> They clearly and unambiguously do. After ever mass shootings their
>>>>> donations surge.
>>>>
>>>> Just your paranoid fantasies.
>>>
>>> See: you deny facts that do not fit your bias. That makes you 
>>> incapable of having a reasoned conversation, at least on this topic.
>>>
>>>>>>> * We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
>>>>>>>     arms... what one could call "infringements".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you say so.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is merely a fact.
>>>>
>>>> And it means nothing.
>>>
>>> I think such reasonable and legal infringements do mean something. 
>>> Interesting how you do not. Fair enough.
>>>
>>>>>>> * We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
>>>>>>>     we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
>>>>>>>     else that is tied to death and injuries.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody is against research.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2595514>
>>>>
>>>> Nobody is against research. Most normal people know it shouldn't be
>>>> done by the Center for DISEASE Control, since it's not a disease.
>>>
>>> Many of the things listed there are not diseases, nor was the 
>>> research looked at limited to CDC funded research. Why push such a 
>>> twist as you did there?
>>>
>>>>>>> * I back evidence-based policies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish more people joined me in that. Notice how my claims are all 
>>>>> VERY
>>>>> easy to support.
>>>>
>>>> Well, actually, they're not. Your "research" argument is a prime
>>>> example of leftist lies and bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Your "NRA Controls The Government" bullshit is a close second.
>>>>
>>>> etc etc etc.
>>>>
>>>> [yawn]
>>>>
>>> I do not back your emotional-charged views but I support your right 
>>> to present them. Fair enough.
>>>
>>> I prefer to stick to the evidence and supportable data.
>>>
>> none of this will raise your income
> 
> Actually sticking to evidence and supportable data helps my income. :)
> 
no it does it just makes you look completely dominated by the person 
you're complaining about

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#688509 — Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-03 12:38 -0700
SubjectRe: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
Message-ID<fniud5Fm0isU16@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#688508
On 6/3/18 12:33 PM, % wrote:
...
>>>> I prefer to stick to the evidence and supportable data.
>>>>
>>> none of this will raise your income
>>
>> Actually sticking to evidence and supportable data helps my income. :)
>>
> no it does it just makes you look completely dominated by the person 
> you're complaining about

Who am I complaining about? I merely am noting some simple facts:

* The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
   action".

* Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
   a hard sale to say they were against the second
   amendment.

* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
   the states rights view.

* We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
   laws.

* We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
   arms... what one could call "infringements".

* We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
   else that is tied to death and injuries.

* I back evidence-based policies.


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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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