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Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii

Started bybenj <benj@nobody.net>
First post2018-05-12 21:23 -0400
Last post2018-05-15 18:09 -0400
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  Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 21:23 -0400
    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 21:59 -0500
      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-13 06:56 +0200
        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 15:18 +1000
          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 00:53 -0500
            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 04:20 +1000
              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 14:28 -0400
                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 16:05 -0500
                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:09 -0400
                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:48 +1000
                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 08:57 -0500
                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 07:56 +1000
                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 23:10 -0400
                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 08:49 -0500
                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 13:31 -0700
                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-16 14:06 -0700
                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 07:17 +1000
                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 16:57 -0500
                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 09:12 +1000
                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:17 -0400
                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 11:45 +1000
                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-14 22:46 -0400
                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 13:50 +1000
                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 00:50 -0400
                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:47 +1000
                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:08 -0400
                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 16:27 +1000
                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:47 -0400
                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 09:58 -0400
                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:26 +1000
                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 21:58 -0400
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 13:21 -0400
                                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:50 -0400
                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 07:03 +1000
                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 17:03 -0500
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 18:28 -0400
                                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:50 +1000
                                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 18:45 -0500
                                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 10:52 +1000
                                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:23 -0400
                                                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-21 07:39 +1000
                                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-21 19:28 -0400
                                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 13:41 +1000
                                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 00:02 -0400
                                                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 14:36 +1000
                                                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 02:15 -0400
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:48 +1000
                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 18:04 -0400
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:31 +1000
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-18 08:43 +1000
                                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 19:18 -0400
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 06:46 +1000
                                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:59 -0400
                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 07:23 +1000
                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 17:08 -0500
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:33 +1000
                                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:13 -0400
                                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:02 +1000
                                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:17 -0400
                                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:49 +1000
                                                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:27 -0400
                                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-21 07:41 +1000
                                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-21 19:30 -0400
                                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 13:44 +1000
                                                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 00:07 -0400
                                                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 14:39 +1000
                                                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 02:15 -0400
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:09 -0400
                                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 10:55 +1000
                                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:13 -0400
                                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:51 +1000
                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 10:55 +1000
                                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:11 -0400
                                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:52 +1000
                                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:25 -0400
                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 18:05 -0400
                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 08:47 +1000
                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:29 -0400
                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 22:45 -0400
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:13 +1000
                                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 17:26 -0400
                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 08:10 +1000
                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:20 -0500
                                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:23 -0400
                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:03 +1000
                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:22 -0400
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-21 07:43 +1000
                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:11 +1000
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 20:55 -0400
                                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 14:27 +1000
                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:26 -0500
                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:16 -0400
                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:04 +1000
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:19 -0400
                                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:53 +1000
                                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:28 -0400
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 03:04 -0400
                                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 07:28 +1000
                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 17:10 -0500
                                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:35 +1000
                                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:20 -0400
                                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:05 +1000
                                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:21 -0400
                                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:56 +1000
                                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:28 -0400
                                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:19 -0400
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:22 -0500
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:15 -0400
                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 01:40 -0400
                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:51 +1000
                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:06 -0400
                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 16:37 +1000
                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 10:55 -0500
                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 08:59 +1000
                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:29 -0400
                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:15 +1000
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 17:31 -0400
                                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 08:54 -0500
                                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:21 +1000
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:21 -0400
                                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:30 -0500
                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 01:39 -0400
                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:54 +1000
                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:03 -0400
                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 09:04 -0500
                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:30 +1000
                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-15 19:18 -0600
                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 22:01 -0400
                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:34 +1000
                                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:31 -0500
                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:00 +1000
                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:30 -0400
      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 22:27 -0700
        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 00:55 -0500
          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:22 -0400
      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:08 -0400
        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:48 +1000
          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:02 -0400
            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 16:45 +1000
              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 09:06 -0500
                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 08:01 +1000
                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 20:16 -0500
                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:36 +1000
    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:06 -0400
      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:48 +1000
        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 08:40 -0400
          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:05 +1000
            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:31 -0400
            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 22:07 -0400
              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-16 04:06 -0600
              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:48 +1000
                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 00:57 -0400
                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 16:06 +1000
                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:33 -0500
                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:26 -0400
                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:18 +1000
            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-16 08:00 -0400
              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:39 +1000
                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 00:54 -0400
                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 15:43 +1000
                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:36 -0500
                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 18:06 -0400
                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:01 -0400
                      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:04 +1000
                        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:29 -0400
                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:30 +1000
                          Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:32 +1000
                            Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:39 -0400
                              Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:42 +1000
                                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:53 -0400
                                  Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:09 +1000
                    Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 19:55 -0400
                Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:10 -0400
      Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 10:24 -0400
        Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 18:09 -0400

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#685907

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-17 15:43 +1000
Message-ID<fm4j53FfmdnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#685901
On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>
>>>> **No.
>>>
>>> Yes, you are.
>>
>> **OK. We disagree.
> 
> It's worse than that.
> 
> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
> 
> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
> 
> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
> were trying to make points with a tautology.
> 
> Let's restore some context:
> 
> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
> :>>
> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
> :>
> :<snip weasel words>
> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
> 
> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
> every possible interpretation.
> 
> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
> 
> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
> winning a million dollars.
> 
> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
> which a "no" answer was not an option.

**OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is 
clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the 
ramifications of the present warming trend.

> 
> The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.

**What is "the alarmist camp"?
Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will 
suffice.
What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?

I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.

> 
> 
>>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>
>>> ... or not.
>>
>> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
>> be reasonably intelligent.
> 
> Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
> "reasonably" intelligent.
> 
>> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
>> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
>> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
>>
>> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
> 
> Are you in a hall of mirrors?

**Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?

Do you really want to go there?

Really?


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#685926

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-05-17 07:36 -0500
Message-ID<pdjt0l$1jah$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#685907
On 5/17/2018 12:43 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>
>>>>> **No.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you are.
>>>
>>> **OK. We disagree.
>>
>> It's worse than that.
>>
>> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
>>
>> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
>>
>> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
>> were trying to make points with a tautology.
>>
>> Let's restore some context:
>>
>> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>> :>>
>> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
>> :>
>> :<snip weasel words>
>> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>
>> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
>> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
>> every possible interpretation.
>>
>> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
>>
>> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
>> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
>> winning a million dollars.
>>
>> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
>> which a "no" answer was not an option.
> 
> **OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is
> clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the
> ramifications of the present warming trend.
> 
>>
>> The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.
> 
> **What is "the alarmist camp"?
> Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will
> suffice.
> What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?
> 
> I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.

google for it

> 
>>
>>
>>>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>
>>>> ... or not.
>>>
>>> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
>>> be reasonably intelligent.
>>
>> Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
>> "reasonably" intelligent.
>>
>>> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
>>> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
>>> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
>>>
>>> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>
>> Are you in a hall of mirrors?
> 
> **Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?

you stated you do not have a science degree, and it is obvious you
cannot do ratios (math).

Perhaps you are stupid at science and math only, and not just stupid at
everything ?

> 
> Do you really want to go there?

to your stupid house ?

> 
> Really?

   did you open the windows ?

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#685995

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-17 18:06 -0400
Message-ID<A1nLC.41814$p05.22001@fx28.iad>
In reply to#685926
On 5/17/2018 8:36 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/17/2018 12:43 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you are.
>>>>
>>>> **OK. We disagree.
>>>
>>> It's worse than that.
>>>
>>> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
>>>
>>> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
>>>
>>> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
>>> were trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>
>>> Let's restore some context:
>>>
>>> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>>> :>>
>>> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
>>> :>
>>> :<snip weasel words>
>>> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>
>>> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
>>>
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
>>> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
>>> every possible interpretation.
>>>
>>> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
>>>
>>> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
>>> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
>>> winning a million dollars.
>>>
>>> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
>>> which a "no" answer was not an option.
>>
>> **OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is
>> clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the
>> ramifications of the present warming trend.
>>
>>>
>>> The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.
>>
>> **What is "the alarmist camp"?
>> Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will
>> suffice.
>> What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?
>>
>> I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.
> 
> google for it
> 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... or not.
>>>>
>>>> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
>>>> be reasonably intelligent.
>>>
>>> Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
>>> "reasonably" intelligent.
>>>
>>>> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
>>>> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
>>>> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
>>>>
>>>> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>
>>> Are you in a hall of mirrors?
>>
>> **Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?
> 
> you stated you do not have a science degree, and it is obvious you
> cannot do ratios (math).
> 
> Perhaps you are stupid at science and math only, and not just stupid at
> everything ?

Excellent theory Sergio, but to date there is considerable evidence that 
your theory is just plain wrong. (He is from OZ you know)

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#686020

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-05-17 19:01 -0400
Message-ID<sv1sfdp1l2g1q9if7oejkfbuh9r3e8u7m9@4ax.com>
In reply to#685907
On Thu, 17 May 2018 15:43:39 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>
>>>>> **No.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you are.
>>>
>>> **OK. We disagree.
>> 
>> It's worse than that.
>> 
>> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
>> 
>> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
>> 
>> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
>> were trying to make points with a tautology.
>> 
>> Let's restore some context:
>> 
>> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>> :>>
>> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
>> :>
>> :<snip weasel words>
>> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>> 
>> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
>> 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
>> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
>> every possible interpretation.
>> 
>> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
>> 
>> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
>> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
>> winning a million dollars.
>> 
>> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
>> which a "no" answer was not an option.
>
>**OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. 

It's worse than we thought. You want to discount a bit of skullduggery
as semantics.

Your question had only one reasonable answer. The answer had nothing
to do with whether AGW is a problem that deserves the amount of
attention you apparently want it to have. It was a foot in the door to
mischief.

Try this: 

Q: Do you think it is a potential problem for someone to win a million
dollars?

A: Yes. [No other answer is possible without guile.]

Conclusion: It is for *this* reason we should ban the lottery. No one
should be exposed to the potential problems of winning a million
dollars.

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#686022

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-18 09:04 +1000
Message-ID<fm6g48Ft0abU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#686020
On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
 > On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
 >
 >> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
 >>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
 >>>
 >>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
 >>>>
 >>>> **No.
 >>>
 >>> Yes, you are.
 >>
 >> **OK. We disagree.
 >
 > It's worse than that.
 >
 > One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
 >
 > Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
 >
 > Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
 > were trying to make points with a tautology.
 >
 > Let's restore some context:
 >
 > :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
 > :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
 > :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
 > :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
 > :>>
 > :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
 > :>
 > :<snip weasel words>
 > :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
 >
 > Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
 >
 > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
 > In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
 > every possible interpretation.
 >
 > Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
 >
 > If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
 > "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
 > winning a million dollars.
 >
 > So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
 > which a "no" answer was not an option.

**OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is 
clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the 
ramifications of the present warming trend.

 >
 > The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.

**What is "the alarmist camp"?
Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will 
suffice.
What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?

I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.

 >
 >
 >>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
 >>>
 >>> ... or not.
 >>
 >> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
 >> be reasonably intelligent.
 >
 > Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
 > "reasonably" intelligent.
 >
 >> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
 >> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
 >> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
 >>
 >> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
 >
 > Are you in a hall of mirrors?

**Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?

Do you really want to go there?

Really?



-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#686029

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-05-17 19:29 -0400
Message-ID<2v3sfd5tc6jml8oqh09qkgqampf7m3fkdt@4ax.com>
In reply to#686022
On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:04:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >
> >> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
> >>>>
> >>>> **No.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, you are.
> >>
> >> **OK. We disagree.
> >
> > It's worse than that.
> >
> > One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
> >
> > Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
> >
> > Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
> > were trying to make points with a tautology.
> >
> > Let's restore some context:
> >
> > :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> > :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> > :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> > :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
> > :>>
> > :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
> > :>
> > :<snip weasel words>
> > :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
> >
> > Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
> >
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
> > In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
> > every possible interpretation.
> >
> > Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
> >
> > If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
> > "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
> > winning a million dollars.
> >
> > So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
> > which a "no" answer was not an option.
>
>**OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is 
>clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the 
>ramifications of the present warming trend.
>
> >
> > The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.
>
>**What is "the alarmist camp"?
>Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will 
>suffice.
>What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?
>
>I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.
>
> >
> >
> >>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
> >>>
> >>> ... or not.
> >>
> >> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
> >> be reasonably intelligent.
> >
> > Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
> > "reasonably" intelligent.
> >
> >> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
> >> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
> >> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
> >>
> >> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
> >
> > Are you in a hall of mirrors?
>
>**Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?
>
>Do you really want to go there?
>
>Really?

Someone is a fan of saying "rerun."

You completely ignored the post you made it look like you were
replying to and substituted text from a prior post.

Whether you are stupid or not: are you a weasel?

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#686030

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-18 09:30 +1000
Message-ID<fm6hm6Ftb2mU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#686029
On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
 > On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
 >
 >> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
 >>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
 >>>
 >>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
 >>>>
 >>>> **No.
 >>>
 >>> Yes, you are.
 >>
 >> **OK. We disagree.
 >
 > It's worse than that.
 >
 > One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
 >
 > Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
 >
 > Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
 > were trying to make points with a tautology.
 >
 > Let's restore some context:
 >
 > :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
 > :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
 > :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
 > :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
 > :>>
 > :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
 > :>
 > :<snip weasel words>
 > :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
 >
 > Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
 >
 > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
 > In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
 > every possible interpretation.
 >
 > Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
 >
 > If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
 > "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
 > winning a million dollars.
 >
 > So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
 > which a "no" answer was not an option.

**OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is 
clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the 
ramifications of the present warming trend.

 >
 > The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.

**What is "the alarmist camp"?
Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will 
suffice.
What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?

I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.

 >
 >
 >>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
 >>>
 >>> ... or not.
 >>
 >> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
 >> be reasonably intelligent.
 >
 > Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
 > "reasonably" intelligent.
 >
 >> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
 >> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
 >> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
 >>
 >> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
 >
 > Are you in a hall of mirrors?

**Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?

Do you really want to go there?

Really?



-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#686031

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-18 09:32 +1000
Message-ID<fm6hovFtb2mU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#686029
On 18/05/2018 9:29 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:04:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you are.
>>>>
>>>> **OK. We disagree.
>>>
>>> It's worse than that.
>>>
>>> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
>>>
>>> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
>>>
>>> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
>>> were trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>
>>> Let's restore some context:
>>>
>>> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>>> :>>
>>> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
>>> :>
>>> :<snip weasel words>
>>> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>
>>> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
>>>
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
>>> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
>>> every possible interpretation.
>>>
>>> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
>>>
>>> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
>>> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
>>> winning a million dollars.
>>>
>>> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
>>> which a "no" answer was not an option.
>>
>> **OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is
>> clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the
>> ramifications of the present warming trend.
>>
>>>
>>> The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.
>>
>> **What is "the alarmist camp"?
>> Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will
>> suffice.
>> What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?
>>
>> I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... or not.
>>>>
>>>> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
>>>> be reasonably intelligent.
>>>
>>> Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
>>> "reasonably" intelligent.
>>>
>>>> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
>>>> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
>>>> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
>>>>
>>>> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>
>>> Are you in a hall of mirrors?
>>
>> **Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?
>>
>> Do you really want to go there?
>>
>> Really?
> 
> Someone is a fan of saying "rerun."
> 
> You completely ignored the post you made it look like you were
> replying to and substituted text from a prior post.
> 
> Whether you are stupid or not: are you a weasel?
> 

**Neither. You failed to respond to my questions. I will continue 
posting them until you respond. Failure to respond will be taken as an 
admission by you, that you have no clear understanding of the topic 
under discussion.

-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#686034

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-05-17 19:39 -0400
Message-ID<di4sfdddorbpmsocodbd9gmppb0gp4q6b5@4ax.com>
In reply to#686031
On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:32:24 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 18/05/2018 9:29 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:04:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> **OK. We disagree.
>>>>
>>>> It's worse than that.
>>>>
>>>> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
>>>>
>>>> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
>>>>
>>>> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
>>>> were trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>
>>>> Let's restore some context:
>>>>
>>>> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>>>> :>>
>>>> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
>>>> :>
>>>> :<snip weasel words>
>>>> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>
>>>> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
>>>>
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
>>>> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
>>>> every possible interpretation.
>>>>
>>>> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
>>>>
>>>> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
>>>> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
>>>> winning a million dollars.
>>>>
>>>> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
>>>> which a "no" answer was not an option.
>>>
>>> **OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is
>>> clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the
>>> ramifications of the present warming trend.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.
>>>
>>> **What is "the alarmist camp"?
>>> Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will
>>> suffice.
>>> What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?
>>>
>>> I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
>>>>> be reasonably intelligent.
>>>>
>>>> Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
>>>> "reasonably" intelligent.
>>>>
>>>>> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
>>>>> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
>>>>> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>
>>>> Are you in a hall of mirrors?
>>>
>>> **Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?
>>>
>>> Do you really want to go there?
>>>
>>> Really?
>> 
>> Someone is a fan of saying "rerun."
>> 
>> You completely ignored the post you made it look like you were
>> replying to and substituted text from a prior post.
>> 
>> Whether you are stupid or not: are you a weasel?
>> 
>
>**Neither. You failed to respond to my questions. I will continue 
>posting them until you respond. Failure to respond will be taken as an 
>admission by you, that you have no clear understanding of the topic 
>under discussion.

IOW: You want to divert attention away from the bit of skullduggery
that you want to cloak as semantics.

Perhaps you have answered my last question.

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#686037

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-18 09:42 +1000
Message-ID<fm6ickFtdg6U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#686034
On 18/05/2018 9:39 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:32:24 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 18/05/2018 9:29 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:04:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **OK. We disagree.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's worse than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
>>>>>
>>>>> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
>>>>> were trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's restore some context:
>>>>>
>>>>> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>>>>> :>>
>>>>> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
>>>>> :>
>>>>> :<snip weasel words>
>>>>> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
>>>>> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
>>>>> every possible interpretation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
>>>>>
>>>>> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
>>>>> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
>>>>> winning a million dollars.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
>>>>> which a "no" answer was not an option.
>>>>
>>>> **OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is
>>>> clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the
>>>> ramifications of the present warming trend.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.
>>>>
>>>> **What is "the alarmist camp"?
>>>> Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will
>>>> suffice.
>>>> What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
>>>>>> be reasonably intelligent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
>>>>> "reasonably" intelligent.
>>>>>
>>>>>> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
>>>>>> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
>>>>>> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you in a hall of mirrors?
>>>>
>>>> **Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?
>>>>
>>>> Do you really want to go there?
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>
>>> Someone is a fan of saying "rerun."
>>>
>>> You completely ignored the post you made it look like you were
>>> replying to and substituted text from a prior post.
>>>
>>> Whether you are stupid or not: are you a weasel?
>>>
>>
>> **Neither. You failed to respond to my questions. I will continue
>> posting them until you respond. Failure to respond will be taken as an
>> admission by you, that you have no clear understanding of the topic
>> under discussion.
> 
> IOW: You want to divert attention away from the bit of skullduggery
> that you want to cloak as semantics.

**No. I want you to answer the questions that you have carefully and 
consistently failed to answer. Why is that?

Oops, there's another question you won't, or cannot answer.

> 
> Perhaps you have answered my last question.

**I am happy to respond to your questions, AFTER you answer mine.

Bet you don't. You don't understand the science. That much is very 
clear. My suggestion to you is this: LISTEN to those who know the 
science. You may learn something. And that can only be a good thing for 
all concerned.

-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#686039

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-05-17 19:53 -0400
Message-ID<u45sfdhfm5ne5lpdeckuqn5t3i4c1j94or@4ax.com>
In reply to#686037
On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:42:53 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>On 18/05/2018 9:39 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:32:24 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 18/05/2018 9:29 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:04:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **No.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **OK. We disagree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's worse than that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
>>>>>> were trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's restore some context:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>>>>>> :>>
>>>>>> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
>>>>>> :>
>>>>>> :<snip weasel words>
>>>>>> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
>>>>>> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
>>>>>> every possible interpretation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
>>>>>> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
>>>>>> winning a million dollars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
>>>>>> which a "no" answer was not an option.
>>>>>
>>>>> **OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is
>>>>> clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the
>>>>> ramifications of the present warming trend.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.
>>>>>
>>>>> **What is "the alarmist camp"?
>>>>> Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will
>>>>> suffice.
>>>>> What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
>>>>>>> be reasonably intelligent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
>>>>>> "reasonably" intelligent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
>>>>>>> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
>>>>>>> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you in a hall of mirrors?
>>>>>
>>>>> **Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you really want to go there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> Someone is a fan of saying "rerun."
>>>>
>>>> You completely ignored the post you made it look like you were
>>>> replying to and substituted text from a prior post.
>>>>
>>>> Whether you are stupid or not: are you a weasel?
>>>>
>>>
>>> **Neither. You failed to respond to my questions. I will continue
>>> posting them until you respond. Failure to respond will be taken as an
>>> admission by you, that you have no clear understanding of the topic
>>> under discussion.
>> 
>> IOW: You want to divert attention away from the bit of skullduggery
>> that you want to cloak as semantics.
>
>**No. I want you to answer the questions that you have carefully and 
>consistently failed to answer. Why is that?
>
>Oops, there's another question you won't, or cannot answer.
>
>> 
>> Perhaps you have answered my last question.
>
>**I am happy to respond to your questions, AFTER you answer mine.
>
>Bet you don't. 

Wanna bet?

The acceptable amount is at least three times the payouts (plus lawyer
fees) from the libel suits you want me to provoke.

>You don't understand the science. 

***The*** science?

>That much is very 
>clear. My suggestion to you is this: LISTEN to those who know the 
>science. You may learn something. And that can only be a good thing for 
>all concerned.


Is that how you came to learn ***the*** science?

It's amazing how frequently the ignorance of those who know ***the***
science is displayed when they proclaim, "It's worse than we thought."

Might someone with a bit of scientific literacy have a problem with a
self-serving, skewed portion of current knowledge being called
***the*** science?

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#686072

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-18 11:09 +1000
Message-ID<fm6nfuFue8eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#686039
On 18/05/2018 9:53 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:42:53 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 18/05/2018 9:39 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:32:24 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18/05/2018 9:29 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:04:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **No.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **OK. We disagree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's worse than that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
>>>>>>> were trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's restore some context:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>>>>>>> :>>
>>>>>>> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
>>>>>>> :>
>>>>>>> :<snip weasel words>
>>>>>>> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
>>>>>>> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
>>>>>>> every possible interpretation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
>>>>>>> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
>>>>>>> winning a million dollars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
>>>>>>> which a "no" answer was not an option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is
>>>>>> clearly far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the
>>>>>> ramifications of the present warming trend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The alarmist camp is full of smarmy weasels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **What is "the alarmist camp"?
>>>>>> Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will
>>>>>> suffice.
>>>>>> What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... or not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to
>>>>>>>> be reasonably intelligent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oooh ... I am flattered than someone as smart as Trevor thinks I am
>>>>>>> "reasonably" intelligent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few
>>>>>>>> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They
>>>>>>>> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you in a hall of mirrors?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Are you attempting to suggest that I am stupid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you really want to go there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone is a fan of saying "rerun."
>>>>>
>>>>> You completely ignored the post you made it look like you were
>>>>> replying to and substituted text from a prior post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whether you are stupid or not: are you a weasel?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **Neither. You failed to respond to my questions. I will continue
>>>> posting them until you respond. Failure to respond will be taken as an
>>>> admission by you, that you have no clear understanding of the topic
>>>> under discussion.
>>>
>>> IOW: You want to divert attention away from the bit of skullduggery
>>> that you want to cloak as semantics.
>>
>> **No. I want you to answer the questions that you have carefully and
>> consistently failed to answer. Why is that?
>>
>> Oops, there's another question you won't, or cannot answer.
>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps you have answered my last question.
>>
>> **I am happy to respond to your questions, AFTER you answer mine.
>>
>> Bet you don't.
> 
> Wanna bet?
> 
> The acceptable amount is at least three times the payouts (plus lawyer
> fees) from the libel suits you want me to provoke.
> 
>> You don't understand the science.
> 
> ***The*** science?

**Yes. The science pertaining to the issue of anthropogenic global warming.

> 
>> That much is very
>> clear. My suggestion to you is this: LISTEN to those who know the
>> science. You may learn something. And that can only be a good thing for
>> all concerned.
> 
> 
> Is that how you came to learn ***the*** science?

**Mostly I read what I needed to learn.

> 
> It's amazing how frequently the ignorance of those who know ***the***
> science is displayed when they proclaim, "It's worse than we thought."

**Cite.

> 
> Might someone with a bit of scientific literacy have a problem with a
> self-serving, skewed portion of current knowledge being called
> ***the*** science?

**No.

And here, again, are the questions you refuse to answer:

What is "the alarmist camp"?
Who are the members of "the alarmist camp"? A dozen members' names will 
suffice.
What are the aims of "the alarmist camp"?

I have no idea what this "alarmist camp" you speak of is.


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#686043

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-05-17 19:55 -0400
Message-ID<pdl6f8$j4d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#685907

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message 
news:fm4j53FfmdnU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 17/05/2018 2:54 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>>>
>>>>> **No.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you are.
>>>
>>> **OK. We disagree.
>>
>> It's worse than that.
>>
>> One possibility is you lied above when you said, "No."
>>
>> Another possibility is you are displaying ignorance now.
>>
>> Another possibility is you are doubling down on your denial that you
>> were trying to make points with a tautology.
>>
>> Let's restore some context:
>>
>> :On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> :>On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> :>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:48:31 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> :>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>> :>>
>> :>> Do you think there is *anything* that isn't a *potential* problem?
>> :>
>> :<snip weasel words>
>> :>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>
>> Now let's try to educate you with a definition, if you weren't lying:
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)>
>> In logic, a tautology ... is a formula or assertion that is true in
>> every possible interpretation.
>>
>> Let's return to your bait: "Do you think it is a potential problem?"
>>
>> If *everything* is a "potential" problem, then the answer to your
>> "question" has to be be "yes," regardless whether "it" is AGW or
>> winning a million dollars.
>>
>> So you were trying to lead into a non sequitur with a question for
>> which a "no" answer was not an option.
>
> **OK, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Your knowledge is clearly 
> far greater than mine. My purpose here is to discuss the ramifications of 
> the present warming trend.

Which you know next to nothing about, other than what you've been fed by the 
tabloids.
 

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#685911

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-05-17 02:10 -0400
Message-ID<pdj83l$2ap$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#685846

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message 
news:fm3mp9Fa532U1@mid.individual.net...
> On 16/05/2018 10:00 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/05/2018 10:40 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>
>>>> You are trying to make points with a tautology.
>>>
>>> **No.
>>
>> Yes, you are.
>
> **OK. We disagree.
>
>>
>>> I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.
>>
>> ... or not.
>
> **Oh, absolutely. Now, I perceive from your writing that you appear to be 
> reasonably intelligent. However, writers like Sergio, benj and a few 
> others lack education and are clearly unable to think critically. They 
> make basic scientific and logical errors regularly.
>
> So, yes, I am dealing with a bunch of very stupid people.

The stupidest of which is the person in your own mirror.
 

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#685579

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-15 10:24 -0400
Message-ID<q4CKC.101254$nq5.52589@fx36.iad>
In reply to#685487
On 5/14/2018 9:06 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote in message 
> news:zsMJC.79358$oR2.18165@fx25.iad...
>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new threat has 
>> now emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions that are 
>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for their lives!
>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still nobody takes 
>> climate change seriously!
>>
>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii
> 
> Oh, come on...that's just the Earth insuring the Hawaii stays above the 
> rising water levels.
> 

Well yes, we can all dig the intent of Gaia!

But as it turns out destruction is good, because:

1. It can be blamed on climate change.

2. It allows reporters on TV to interview blubbering home owners about 
the destruction and demand that people who did not build their homes on 
the side of an active volcano pay those who did for the inevitable outcome.

Excellent theory, by the way, linking lava flow to climate change! I 
love climate science!

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#685682

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-05-15 18:09 -0400
Message-ID<pdfs6f$on8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#685579

"benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote in message 
news:q4CKC.101254$nq5.52589@fx36.iad...
> On 5/14/2018 9:06 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote in message 
>> news:zsMJC.79358$oR2.18165@fx25.iad...
>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new threat has now 
>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions that are 
>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for their lives!
>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still nobody takes climate 
>>> change seriously!
>>>
>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii
>>
>> Oh, come on...that's just the Earth insuring the Hawaii stays above the 
>> rising water levels.
>>
>
> Well yes, we can all dig the intent of Gaia!
>
> But as it turns out destruction is good, because:
>
> 1. It can be blamed on climate change.
>
> 2. It allows reporters on TV to interview blubbering home owners about the 
> destruction and demand that people who did not build their homes on the 
> side of an active volcano pay those who did for the inevitable outcome.
>
> Excellent theory, by the way, linking lava flow to climate change!

Thank you, and I could even advance a theory as to the actual process. As 
the water level increases it puts more pressure on the crust, building 
pressure within the inner core which is then going to leak out of any holes 
in the crust.

Give me a few million in grant money, and within a couple of years I will 
produce a long wordy paper denoting this process and it's mechanics.

> I love climate science!

Not sure how much 'science' there is in most of the current 'climate 
science', but it's certainly nice they are inventing all kinds of theories.
 

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