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| Started by | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| First post | 2018-05-12 21:23 -0400 |
| Last post | 2018-05-15 18:09 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 176 — 11 participants |
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Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 21:23 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 21:59 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-13 06:56 +0200
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 15:18 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 00:53 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 04:20 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 14:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 16:05 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:09 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 08:57 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 07:56 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 23:10 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 08:49 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 13:31 -0700
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-16 14:06 -0700
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 07:17 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 16:57 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 09:12 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:17 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 11:45 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-14 22:46 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 13:50 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 00:50 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:47 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:08 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 16:27 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:47 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 09:58 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:26 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 21:58 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 13:21 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:50 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 07:03 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 17:03 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 18:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:50 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 18:45 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 10:52 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:23 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-21 07:39 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-21 19:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 13:41 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 00:02 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 14:36 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 02:15 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 18:04 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:31 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-18 08:43 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 19:18 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 06:46 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:59 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 07:23 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 17:08 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:33 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:13 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:02 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:17 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:49 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:27 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-21 07:41 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-21 19:30 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 13:44 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 00:07 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 14:39 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 02:15 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:09 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 10:55 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:13 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:51 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:06 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 10:55 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:11 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:52 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:25 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 18:05 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 08:47 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:29 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 22:45 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:13 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 17:26 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 08:10 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:20 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:23 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:03 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:22 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-21 07:43 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:11 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 20:55 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 14:27 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:26 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:16 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:04 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:19 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:53 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 03:04 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 07:28 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 17:10 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:35 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:20 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:05 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:21 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:56 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:19 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:22 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:15 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 01:40 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:51 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:06 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 16:37 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 10:55 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 08:59 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:29 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:15 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 17:31 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 08:54 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:21 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:21 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:30 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 01:39 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:54 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:03 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 09:04 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:30 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-15 19:18 -0600
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 22:01 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:34 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:31 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:00 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:30 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 22:27 -0700
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 00:55 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:22 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:08 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:02 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 16:45 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 09:06 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 08:01 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 20:16 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:36 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:06 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 08:40 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:05 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:31 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 22:07 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-16 04:06 -0600
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 00:57 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 16:06 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:33 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:26 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:18 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-16 08:00 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:39 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 00:54 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 15:43 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:36 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 18:06 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:01 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:04 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:29 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:30 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:32 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:39 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:42 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:53 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:09 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 19:55 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:10 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 10:24 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 18:09 -0400
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-17 07:13 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm3l98F9q3iU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685718 |
On 16/05/2018 12:45 PM, benj wrote: > On 5/15/2018 8:29 PM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>> >>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>> >>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>> >>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>> >>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>> That's around 9%. >>>> >>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>> >>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >> >> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal and >> this is the current overall yearly average. >> >>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>> >>> **Irrelevant. >> >> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? >> >> Nice for you to admit that. >> >>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >> >> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total >> green house gas emissions. >> >> >>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >>> >>> **Nope. Not even close. >> >> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. >> >> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. >> >> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >> >> Does 0.0351% sound better? >> >> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >> >> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. >> >> >> >> Your ability to understand scientific concepts >>> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a >>> great deal to learn. >>> >>> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid >>> 19th century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by >>> around 43%. >> >> Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever? >> >> Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that? > > Actually no paper. In fact the NASA website, USED to have a great > article on the CO2 cycles of the earth and noted that Earth was the ONLY > planet in this system where there was such a cycle regulating CO2. But, > the piece has since been removed so as to not confuse those gullibles > with actual science rather than "climate change" propaganda. > > Trevor is so funny. He calls everyone else ignorant and then just lapses > into a fantasy world where he can't even divide two numbers. Bet he > believes in "triangular CO2" as the cause of "climate change"! > **No, no, no. "Everyone" is not ignorant. Just you and Sergio. You and he are exceptionally ignorant of basic science. And yes, you are still Sergio's yappy little lap-dog. Not an insult. A statement of fact. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-16 17:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Pl1LC.104745$nq5.83480@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #685831 |
On 5/16/2018 5:13 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 16/05/2018 12:45 PM, benj wrote: >> On 5/15/2018 8:29 PM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>> >>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>> >>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>> >>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>> >>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>> >>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>> >>>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>>> >>>> **Irrelevant. >>> >>> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? >>> >>> Nice for you to admit that. >>> >>>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >>> >>> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total >>> green house gas emissions. >>> >>> >>>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >>>> >>>> **Nope. Not even close. >>> >>> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. >>> >>> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. >>> >>> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >>> >>> Does 0.0351% sound better? >>> >>> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >>> >>> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. >>> >>> >>> >>> Your ability to understand scientific concepts >>>> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a >>>> great deal to learn. >>>> >>>> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid >>>> 19th century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by >>>> around 43%. >>> >>> Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever? >>> >>> Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that? >> >> Actually no paper. In fact the NASA website, USED to have a great >> article on the CO2 cycles of the earth and noted that Earth was the >> ONLY planet in this system where there was such a cycle regulating >> CO2. But, the piece has since been removed so as to not confuse those >> gullibles with actual science rather than "climate change" propaganda. >> >> Trevor is so funny. He calls everyone else ignorant and then just >> lapses into a fantasy world where he can't even divide two numbers. >> Bet he believes in "triangular CO2" as the cause of "climate change"! >> > > **No, no, no. "Everyone" is not ignorant. Just you and Sergio. You and > he are exceptionally ignorant of basic science. And yes, you are still > Sergio's yappy little lap-dog. > > Not an insult. A statement of fact. > Right. Except the professors who gave Sergio and I our degrees aren't much impressed with your soldering certificate.
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 08:10 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm3oj6FahvuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685838 |
On 17/05/2018 7:26 AM, benj wrote: > On 5/16/2018 5:13 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 16/05/2018 12:45 PM, benj wrote: >>> On 5/15/2018 8:29 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>> >>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of >>>>>>>> one percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>> >>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>> >>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>> >>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>>> >>>>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>>>> >>>>> **Irrelevant. >>>> >>>> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? >>>> >>>> Nice for you to admit that. >>>> >>>>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>>>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >>>> >>>> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total >>>> green house gas emissions. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >>>>> >>>>> **Nope. Not even close. >>>> >>>> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. >>>> >>>> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. >>>> >>>> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >>>> >>>> Does 0.0351% sound better? >>>> >>>> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >>>> >>>> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Your ability to understand scientific concepts >>>>> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a >>>>> great deal to learn. >>>>> >>>>> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid >>>>> 19th century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by >>>>> around 43%. >>>> >>>> Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever? >>>> >>>> Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that? >>> >>> Actually no paper. In fact the NASA website, USED to have a great >>> article on the CO2 cycles of the earth and noted that Earth was the >>> ONLY planet in this system where there was such a cycle regulating >>> CO2. But, the piece has since been removed so as to not confuse those >>> gullibles with actual science rather than "climate change" propaganda. >>> >>> Trevor is so funny. He calls everyone else ignorant and then just >>> lapses into a fantasy world where he can't even divide two numbers. >>> Bet he believes in "triangular CO2" as the cause of "climate change"! >>> >> >> **No, no, no. "Everyone" is not ignorant. Just you and Sergio. You and >> he are exceptionally ignorant of basic science. And yes, you are still >> Sergio's yappy little lap-dog. >> >> Not an insult. A statement of fact. >> > Right. Except the professors who gave Sergio and I our degrees aren't > much impressed with your soldering certificate. **I don't dispute that you two idiots have degrees in something. After all, there are a number of institutions who don't require an intellect from their students. They just do it for Bucks. FWIW: I don't judge people on bits of paper on their walls. I judge them on their words, their ability to think critically and their deeds. Thus far, you demonstrate an astonishing inability to think critically. So, stop banging on about your alleged scientific abilities and learn to think critically. You're still Sergio's yappy little lap-dog. And no, that is not a compliment. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 07:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pdjs25$1i75$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #685856 |
On 5/16/2018 5:10 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 17/05/2018 7:26 AM, benj wrote: >> On 5/16/2018 5:13 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 16/05/2018 12:45 PM, benj wrote: >>>> On 5/15/2018 8:29 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the >>>>>>>>>>>> future, it >>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur >>>>>>>>>> at approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at >>>>>>>>>> a little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>> >>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are >>>>>>>>>> correct, there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. >>>>>>>>>> What "bigger fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do >>>>>>>>> to stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction >>>>>>>>> of one percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>>> >>>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>>> >>>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>>>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>>>> >>>>>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>>>>> >>>>>> **Irrelevant. >>>>> >>>>> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? >>>>> >>>>> Nice for you to admit that. >>>>> >>>>>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>>>>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >>>>> >>>>> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total >>>>> green house gas emissions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Nope. Not even close. >>>>> >>>>> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. >>>>> >>>>> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. >>>>> >>>>> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >>>>> >>>>> Does 0.0351% sound better? >>>>> >>>>> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >>>>> >>>>> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Your ability to understand scientific concepts >>>>>> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a >>>>>> great deal to learn. >>>>>> >>>>>> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid >>>>>> 19th century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by >>>>>> around 43%. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever? >>>>> >>>>> Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that? >>>> >>>> Actually no paper. In fact the NASA website, USED to have a great >>>> article on the CO2 cycles of the earth and noted that Earth was the >>>> ONLY planet in this system where there was such a cycle regulating >>>> CO2. But, the piece has since been removed so as to not confuse >>>> those gullibles with actual science rather than "climate change" >>>> propaganda. >>>> >>>> Trevor is so funny. He calls everyone else ignorant and then just >>>> lapses into a fantasy world where he can't even divide two numbers. >>>> Bet he believes in "triangular CO2" as the cause of "climate change"! >>>> >>> >>> **No, no, no. "Everyone" is not ignorant. Just you and Sergio. You >>> and he are exceptionally ignorant of basic science. And yes, you are >>> still Sergio's yappy little lap-dog. >>> >>> Not an insult. A statement of fact. >>> >> Right. Except the professors who gave Sergio and I our degrees aren't >> much impressed with your soldering certificate. > > **I don't dispute that you two idiots have degrees in something. After > all, there are a number of institutions who don't require an intellect > from their students. They just do it for Bucks. > > FWIW: I judge people so you are a judgemental fuck-head, is that your claim to fame? > I judge them based upon your feelings, not math or science as your ego excludes rational thought.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 20:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdl6fb$j4d$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685831 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm3l98F9q3iU2@mid.individual.net... > On 16/05/2018 12:45 PM, benj wrote: >> On 5/15/2018 8:29 PM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a little >>>>>>>> over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists believe we >>>>>>>> have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>> >>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>> >>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>> >>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>> >>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>> >>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal and >>> this is the current overall yearly average. >>> >>>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>>> >>>> **Irrelevant. >>> >>> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? >>> >>> Nice for you to admit that. >>> >>>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >>> >>> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total green >>> house gas emissions. >>> >>> >>>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >>>> >>>> **Nope. Not even close. >>> >>> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. >>> >>> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. >>> >>> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >>> >>> Does 0.0351% sound better? >>> >>> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >>> >>> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. I would note that Trevor has YET to produce his number after claiming mine is way off. >>> Your ability to understand scientific concepts >>>> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a great >>>> deal to learn. >>>> >>>> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid 19th >>>> century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by around 43%. >>> >>> Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever? >>> >>> Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that? >> >> Actually no paper. In fact the NASA website, USED to have a great article >> on the CO2 cycles of the earth and noted that Earth was the ONLY planet >> in this system where there was such a cycle regulating CO2. But, the >> piece has since been removed so as to not confuse those gullibles with >> actual science rather than "climate change" propaganda. >> >> Trevor is so funny. He calls everyone else ignorant and then just lapses >> into a fantasy world where he can't even divide two numbers. Bet he >> believes in "triangular CO2" as the cause of "climate change"! >> > > **No, no, no. "Everyone" is not ignorant. Just you and Sergio. You and he > are exceptionally ignorant of basic science. And yes, you are still > Sergio's yappy little lap-dog. > > Not an insult. A statement of fact. > > -- > Trevor Wilson > www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 11:03 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm6n3nFube6U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #686049 |
On 18/05/2018 10:23 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:fm3l98F9q3iU2@mid.individual.net... >> On 16/05/2018 12:45 PM, benj wrote: >>> On 5/15/2018 8:29 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>> >>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of >>>>>>>> one percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>> >>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>> >>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>> >>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>>> >>>>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>>>> >>>>> **Irrelevant. >>>> >>>> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? >>>> >>>> Nice for you to admit that. >>>> >>>>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>>>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >>>> >>>> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total >>>> green house gas emissions. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >>>>> >>>>> **Nope. Not even close. >>>> >>>> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. >>>> >>>> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. >>>> >>>> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >>>> >>>> Does 0.0351% sound better? >>>> >>>> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >>>> >>>> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. > > I would note that Trevor has YET to produce his number after claiming > mine is way off. **Then you need to read what has been written a lot more carefully. > > >>>> Your ability to understand scientific concepts >>>>> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a >>>>> great deal to learn. >>>>> >>>>> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid >>>>> 19th century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by >>>>> around 43%. >>>> >>>> Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever? >>>> >>>> Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that? >>> >>> Actually no paper. In fact the NASA website, USED to have a great >>> article on the CO2 cycles of the earth and noted that Earth was the >>> ONLY planet in this system where there was such a cycle regulating >>> CO2. But, the piece has since been removed so as to not confuse those >>> gullibles with actual science rather than "climate change" propaganda. >>> >>> Trevor is so funny. He calls everyone else ignorant and then just >>> lapses into a fantasy world where he can't even divide two numbers. >>> Bet he believes in "triangular CO2" as the cause of "climate change"! >>> >> >> **No, no, no. "Everyone" is not ignorant. Just you and Sergio. You and >> he are exceptionally ignorant of basic science. And yes, you are still >> Sergio's yappy little lap-dog. >> >> Not an insult. A statement of fact. >> >> -- >> Trevor Wilson >> www.rageaudio.com.au > -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 21:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdlas7$7if$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #686066 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm6n3nFube6U2@mid.individual.net... > On 18/05/2018 10:23 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm3l98F9q3iU2@mid.individual.net... >>> On 16/05/2018 12:45 PM, benj wrote: >>>> On 5/15/2018 8:29 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>> >>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>>> >>>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>>> >>>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal and >>>>> this is the current overall yearly average. >>>>> >>>>>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>>>>> >>>>>> **Irrelevant. >>>>> >>>>> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? >>>>> >>>>> Nice for you to admit that. >>>>> >>>>>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>>>>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >>>>> >>>>> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total >>>>> green house gas emissions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Nope. Not even close. >>>>> >>>>> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. >>>>> >>>>> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. >>>>> >>>>> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >>>>> >>>>> Does 0.0351% sound better? >>>>> >>>>> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >>>>> >>>>> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. >> >> I would note that Trevor has YET to produce his number after claiming >> mine is way off. > > **Then you need to read what has been written a lot more carefully. > Trevor attempts to assert he's presented such a number but can't seem to recall where or when he did so, or even what the number was.
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 07:43 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fme8g9Fjn2mU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #686086 |
On 18/05/2018 11:22 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:fm6n3nFube6U2@mid.individual.net... >> On 18/05/2018 10:23 AM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:fm3l98F9q3iU2@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 16/05/2018 12:45 PM, benj wrote: >>>>> On 5/15/2018 8:29 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>> message news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim. I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> life, security >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the >>>>>>>>>>>>> future, it >>>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur >>>>>>>>>>> at approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at >>>>>>>>>>> a little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are >>>>>>>>>>> correct, there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. >>>>>>>>>>> What "bigger fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do >>>>>>>>>> to stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction >>>>>>>>>> of one percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>>>>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Irrelevant. >>>>>> >>>>>> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nice for you to admit that. >>>>>> >>>>>>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>>>>>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total >>>>>> green house gas emissions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of >>>>>>>> CO2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Nope. Not even close. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. >>>>>> >>>>>> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. >>>>>> >>>>>> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does 0.0351% sound better? >>>>>> >>>>>> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >>>>>> >>>>>> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. >>> >>> I would note that Trevor has YET to produce his number after claiming >>> mine is way off. >> >> **Then you need to read what has been written a lot more carefully. >> > > Trevor attempts to assert he's presented such a number but can't seem to > recall where or when he did so, or even what the number was. > > **I've consistently stated that YOUR number is bogus, based on bogus assumptions. Nothing more. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 07:11 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685696 |
On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>> >>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>> >>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>> >>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>> >>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>> >>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >> >> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >> >>> >>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>> >>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>> >>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>> That's around 9%. >>> >>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >> >> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. > > Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal and > this is the current overall yearly average. **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ > >>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >> >> **Irrelevant. > > So facts are irrelevant to your claims? **Nope. Calculating 9% of 0.039% is irrelevant. > > Nice for you to admit that. **Again: When I want to know how to load a firearm, I'll ask you. If you want to discuss science with me, then you will need to do a great deal more study. You are way out of your depth. > >> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. > > Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total green > house gas emissions. **Well, no. CO2 represents between 9% ~ 26% of Solar forcing and is, thus, a significant driver of global warming. Since humans have added around 43% of CO2 into the atmosphere, humans have had a significant effect to the climate. > > >>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >> >> **Nope. Not even close. > > Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. **Again: Humans are contributing around 9% of total CO2 emissions. That's a very significant amount of CO2. Since the CO2 molecule is a very stable one, CO2 that has been emitted by humans mostly remains in the atmosphere, such that, to date, humans have contributed around 43% of the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. But I've explained all this to you before. Your 0.00351% number is based on a bunch of false assumptions. Key among these assumptions is that the significance of 410ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere is insignificant. THAT is the key problem you need to educate yourself on. 410ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere is very significant. > > After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. **Irrelevant. 0.04% alcohol in the human blood steam is a very small amount. It is a figure that makes it illegal for commercial drivers to get behind the wheel in the US, because they are considered impaired. > > But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. > > Does 0.0351% sound better? > > How about 2 orders of magnitude? > > 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. **Again: Irrelevant. > > > > Your ability to understand scientific concepts >> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a great >> deal to learn. >> >> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid >> 19th century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by >> around 43%. > > Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever? **CO2 is estimated to remain in the atmosphere for upwards of several hundred years. > > Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that? ** https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-16 20:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <kq4LC.142087$1e7.48034@fx38.iad> |
| In reply to | #685828 |
On 5/16/2018 5:11 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> employed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven
>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I
>>>>>>>>>>> merely
>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring?
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life,
>>>>>>>>>> security
>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the
>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it
>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at
>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a
>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists
>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400....
>>>>>
>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance.
>>>
>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up.
>
> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up.
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without
>>>>>>>> consequence
>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct,
>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger
>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to
>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one
>>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural
>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes.
>>>>> That's around 9%.
>>>>
>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere
>>>
>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data.
>>
>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal and
>> this is the current overall yearly average.
>
> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/
What does this moron mean by "no"? His own reference clearly shows the
yearly variations and that Sergio is right on. This is amazing stupidity!
>>>> What's 9% of 0.039%?
>>>
>>> **Irrelevant.
>>
>> So facts are irrelevant to your claims?
>
> **Nope. Calculating 9% of 0.039% is irrelevant.
All facts are irelevant when you are just making them up.
>> Nice for you to admit that.
>
> **Again: When I want to know how to load a firearm, I'll ask you. If you
> want to discuss science with me, then you will need to do a great deal
> more study. You are way out of your depth.
Says the solder jock from Oz. List your science degrees please. Sergio
already has. Ah, nothing as usual, but lies bluster and fraudulent claims.
>>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT,
>>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions.
>>
>> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total
>> green house gas emissions.
>
> **Well, no. CO2 represents between 9% ~ 26% of Solar forcing and is,
> thus, a significant driver of global warming. Since humans have added
> around 43% of CO2 into the atmosphere, humans have had a significant
> effect to the climate.
And how did you come to ignore the Unique Earth CO2 cycle which used to
be touted on the NASA website before you warmballer had it taken down
since it blew your theory of "inert" CO2! CO2 remaining forever an
amazing fabrication.
>>
>>
>>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2.
>>>
>>> **Nope. Not even close.
>>
>> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis.
>
> **Again: Humans are contributing around 9% of total CO2 emissions.
> That's a very significant amount of CO2. Since the CO2 molecule is a
> very stable one, CO2 that has been emitted by humans mostly remains in
> the atmosphere, such that, to date, humans have contributed around 43%
> of the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Based on your false assumption of no CO2 cycle on the planet. In other
words we only have you word for this and it's obvious what that is worth.
> But I've explained all this to you before. Your 0.00351% number is based
> on a bunch of false assumptions.
He means false assumptions like acutual measurements. Well, that will
never sell the tax, will it.
> Key among these assumptions is that the significance of 410ppm of CO2 in
> the atmosphere is insignificant. THAT is the key problem you need to
> educate yourself on. 410ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere is very significant.
Because you say it is? Ok. Please list your peer-reviewed papers
demonstrating your authority in this matter. We'll wait right here.
>> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number.
>
> **Irrelevant. 0.04% alcohol in the human blood steam is a very small
> amount. It is a figure that makes it illegal for commercial drivers to
> get behind the wheel in the US, because they are considered impaired.
>
>>
>> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude.
>>
>> Does 0.0351% sound better?
>>
>> How about 2 orders of magnitude?
>>
>> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%.
>
>
> **Again: Irrelevant.
How can it be irrelevant when your proposal is to limit CO2 emissions so
as to affect warming. But since CO2 is a minor GHG and human
contributions a tiny fraction of that even if Kyoto were implemented
fully it would have ZERO effect on climate. It's impossible. So what
exactly are you proposing? ANYTHING that actually would make a
difference to anyone except Third World dictators?
>> Your ability to understand scientific concepts
>>> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a
>>> great deal to learn.
>>>
>>> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid
>>> 19th century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by
>>> around 43%.
>>
>> Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever?
>
> **CO2 is estimated to remain in the atmosphere for upwards of several
> hundred years.
Cite (other than some propaganda site please).
>>
>> Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that?
>
> ** https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases
Quote from your own reference (which being EPA is likely also a
propaganda source:
"How long do they stay in the atmosphere?"
"Each of these gases can remain in the atmosphere for different
amounts of time, ranging from a few years to thousands of years. All of
these gases remain in the atmosphere long enough to become well mixed,
meaning that the amount that is measured in the atmosphere is roughly
the same all over the world, regardless of the source of the emissions."
Clearly even your own fraudster won't get on your "CO2 forever"
bandwagon. Basically the answer is "unknown and unmeasured".
YOu are so stupid you don't even read your own references. Is someone
else giving the cites to you to post? How much do you get paid for each
post?
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-17 14:27 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm4emcFepljU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685871 |
On 17/05/2018 10:55 AM, benj wrote: > On 5/16/2018 5:11 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>> >>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>> >>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >> >> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>> >>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>> >>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>> >>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >> >> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ > > What does this moron mean by "no"? His own reference clearly shows the > yearly variations and that Sergio is right on. This is amazing stupidity! **Sergio has made several claims of CO2 concentrations. All have been wrong. The figure is approximately 410ppm. > >>>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>>> >>>> **Irrelevant. >>> >>> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? >> >> **Nope. Calculating 9% of 0.039% is irrelevant. > > All facts are irelevant when you are just making them up. **OK, then, YOU tell me why that fraudulent calculation, based on incorrect data is relevant. Take as much space as you need to answer. > >>> Nice for you to admit that. >> >> **Again: When I want to know how to load a firearm, I'll ask you. If >> you want to discuss science with me, then you will need to do a great >> deal more study. You are way out of your depth. > > Says the solder jock from Oz. List your science degrees please. **Oh, I have no science degrees. Unlike you and Sergio, I would never lie about such a thing. You two idiots know nothing about science. List yours and Sergio's climatology credentials here: Sergio > already has. Ah, nothing as usual, but lies bluster and fraudulent claims. **From you and Sergio, certainly. We expect nothing less. > >>>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >>> >>> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total >>> green house gas emissions. >> >> **Well, no. CO2 represents between 9% ~ 26% of Solar forcing and is, >> thus, a significant driver of global warming. Since humans have added >> around 43% of CO2 into the atmosphere, humans have had a significant >> effect to the climate. > > And how did you come to ignore the Unique Earth CO2 cycle which used to > be touted on the NASA website before you warmballer had it taken down > since it blew your theory of "inert" CO2! CO2 remaining forever an > amazing fabrication. **You'll need to re-state that in English. > >>> >>> >>>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >>>> >>>> **Nope. Not even close. >>> >>> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. >> >> **Again: Humans are contributing around 9% of total CO2 emissions. >> That's a very significant amount of CO2. Since the CO2 molecule is a >> very stable one, CO2 that has been emitted by humans mostly remains in >> the atmosphere, such that, to date, humans have contributed around 43% >> of the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. > > Based on your false assumption of no CO2 cycle on the planet. **Precisely where did I make such a claim? Cite please. I won't hold my breath waiting. In other > words we only have you word for this and it's obvious what that is worth. > >> But I've explained all this to you before. Your 0.00351% number is >> based on a bunch of false assumptions. > > He means false assumptions like acutual measurements. Well, that will > never sell the tax, will it. **Nope. False assumptions and incorrect data. Just the kind of nonsense you and Sergio continually assault us with. > >> Key among these assumptions is that the significance of 410ppm of CO2 >> in the atmosphere is insignificant. THAT is the key problem you need >> to educate yourself on. 410ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere is very >> significant. > > Because you say it is? **Nope. Because every climatologist on the planet says so. Ok. Please list your peer-reviewed papers > demonstrating your authority in this matter. We'll wait right here. **_I_ NEVER claimed to have any peer-reviewed papers in the area of climatology. However, I will direct you to a large amount of peer-reviewed information, as requested. You should read it all, dickhead (since you asked for it): http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/ > >>> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. >> >> **Irrelevant. 0.04% alcohol in the human blood steam is a very small >> amount. It is a figure that makes it illegal for commercial drivers to >> get behind the wheel in the US, because they are considered impaired. >> >>> >>> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >>> >>> Does 0.0351% sound better? >>> >>> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >>> >>> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. >> >> >> **Again: Irrelevant. > > How can it be irrelevant when your proposal is to limit CO2 emissions so > as to affect warming. **Because it is a false conclusion, based on false data. But since CO2 is a minor GHG and human > contributions a tiny fraction of that even if Kyoto were implemented > fully it would have ZERO effect on climate. **You seem to be trapped in the dark ages. The planet has moved well beyond Kyoto. It's impossible. So what > exactly are you proposing? ANYTHING that actually would make a > difference to anyone except Third World dictators? **Well, the impending global warming will affect us all. Including "Third World dictators". > > >>> Your ability to understand scientific concepts >>>> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a >>>> great deal to learn. >>>> >>>> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid >>>> 19th century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by >>>> around 43%. >>> >>> Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever? >> >> **CO2 is estimated to remain in the atmosphere for upwards of several >> hundred years. > > Cite (other than some propaganda site please). **Asked and answered. > >>> >>> Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that? >> >> ** https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases > > Quote from your own reference (which being EPA is likely also a > propaganda source: > > "How long do they stay in the atmosphere?" > > "Each of these gases can remain in the atmosphere for different > amounts of time, ranging from a few years to thousands of years. All of > these gases remain in the atmosphere long enough to become well mixed, > meaning that the amount that is measured in the atmosphere is roughly > the same all over the world, regardless of the source of the emissions." > > > > Clearly even your own fraudster won't get on your "CO2 forever" > bandwagon. Basically the answer is "unknown and unmeasured". > > YOu are so stupid you don't even read your own references. Is someone > else giving the cites to you to post? **Nope. How much do you get paid for each > post? **The satisfaction of shutting up a yapping lap-dog with science and logic. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-17 07:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pdjsd7$1iop$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #685896 |
On 5/16/2018 11:27 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > > **Oh, I have no science degrees. the subject is too complex for you, go post in alt.glowball.worming <plonk>
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-17 20:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdl6fa$j4d$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685896 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm4emcFepljU1@mid.individual.net... > On 17/05/2018 10:55 AM, benj wrote: >> On 5/16/2018 5:11 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>> >>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>> >>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>> >>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>> >>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>> >>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal and >>>> this is the current overall yearly average. >>> >>> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ >> >> What does this moron mean by "no"? His own reference clearly shows the >> yearly variations and that Sergio is right on. This is amazing stupidity! > > **Sergio has made several claims of CO2 concentrations. All have been > wrong. The figure is approximately 410ppm. When, where, and is that an average or is it that all the time?
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 11:04 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm6n5jFube6U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #686048 |
On 18/05/2018 10:16 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:fm4emcFepljU1@mid.individual.net... >> On 17/05/2018 10:55 AM, benj wrote: >>> On 5/16/2018 5:11 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the >>>>>>>>>>>> future, it >>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur >>>>>>>>>> at approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at >>>>>>>>>> a little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>> >>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>> >>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are >>>>>>>>>> correct, there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. >>>>>>>>>> What "bigger fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do >>>>>>>>> to stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction >>>>>>>>> of one percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>>> >>>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>>> >>>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>>>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>>> >>>> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ >>> >>> What does this moron mean by "no"? His own reference clearly shows >>> the yearly variations and that Sergio is right on. This is amazing >>> stupidity! >> >> **Sergio has made several claims of CO2 concentrations. All have been >> wrong. The figure is approximately 410ppm. > > When, where, and is that an average or is it that all the time? > > **The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing year to year. It increases and decreases depending on seasons. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 21:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdlas6$7if$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #686067 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm6n5jFube6U3@mid.individual.net... > On 18/05/2018 10:16 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm4emcFepljU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 17/05/2018 10:55 AM, benj wrote: >>>> On 5/16/2018 5:11 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, >>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>> >>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>>>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>>>>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>>>> >>>>> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ >>>> >>>> What does this moron mean by "no"? His own reference clearly shows the >>>> yearly variations and that Sergio is right on. This is amazing >>>> stupidity! >>> >>> **Sergio has made several claims of CO2 concentrations. All have been >>> wrong. The figure is approximately 410ppm. >> >> When, where, and is that an average or is it that all the time? >> >> > > **The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing year to year. So? That doesn't answer the question. > It increases and decreases depending on seasons. > Then you were wrong when you said the figure was approximately 410ppm. Trevor you seem to be making a lot of errors there. Are you sure you understand basic science?
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 11:53 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm6q1rFa42U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #686082 |
On 18/05/2018 11:19 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:fm6n5jFube6U3@mid.individual.net... >> On 18/05/2018 10:16 AM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:fm4emcFepljU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 17/05/2018 10:55 AM, benj wrote: >>>>> On 5/16/2018 5:11 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moron. I doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim. I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life, security >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> peoples on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur >>>>>>>>>>>> at approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently >>>>>>>>>>>> at a little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of >>>>>>>>>>>> climatologists believe we have already passed the tipping >>>>>>>>>>>> point. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>> >>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are >>>>>>>>>>>> correct, there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. >>>>>>>>>>>> What "bigger fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do >>>>>>>>>>> to stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction >>>>>>>>>>> of one percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by >>>>>>>>>> natural processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X >>>>>>>>>> 10^9 Tonnes. That's around 9%. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are >>>>>>> seasonal and this is the current overall yearly average. >>>>>> >>>>>> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ >>>>> >>>>> What does this moron mean by "no"? His own reference clearly shows >>>>> the yearly variations and that Sergio is right on. This is amazing >>>>> stupidity! >>>> >>>> **Sergio has made several claims of CO2 concentrations. All have >>>> been wrong. The figure is approximately 410ppm. >>> >>> When, where, and is that an average or is it that all the time? >>> >>> >> >> **The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing year to year. > > So? That doesn't answer the question. **The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing year to year. It increases and decreases depending on seasons. > >> It increases and decreases depending on seasons. >> > > Then you were wrong when you said the figure was approximately 410ppm. **Nope. Bang on. You were wrong when you claimed a different figure. > > Trevor you seem to be making a lot of errors there. Are you sure you > understand basic science? **Much, MUCH more than you, moron. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 22:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdlelb$ol1$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #686093 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm6q1rFa42U5@mid.individual.net... > On 18/05/2018 11:19 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm6n5jFube6U3@mid.individual.net... >>> On 18/05/2018 10:16 AM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:fm4emcFepljU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 17/05/2018 10:55 AM, benj wrote: >>>>>> On 5/16/2018 5:11 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur >>>>>>>>>>>>> at approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at >>>>>>>>>>>>> a little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fry. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are >>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. >>>>>>>>>>>>> What "bigger fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do >>>>>>>>>>>> to stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction >>>>>>>>>>>> of one percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>>>>>>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ >>>>>> >>>>>> What does this moron mean by "no"? His own reference clearly shows >>>>>> the yearly variations and that Sergio is right on. This is amazing >>>>>> stupidity! >>>>> >>>>> **Sergio has made several claims of CO2 concentrations. All have been >>>>> wrong. The figure is approximately 410ppm. >>>> >>>> When, where, and is that an average or is it that all the time? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> **The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing year to year. >> >> So? That doesn't answer the question. > > **The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing year to year. It > increases and decreases depending on seasons. Your inability to read, understand, reason and produce a rational reply is noted as proof that what you say can't be assumed to have any value, much less truth, to it.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 03:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdj9s1$c89$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685828 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... > On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a little >>>>>>> over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists believe we have >>>>>>> already passed the tipping point. >>>>>> >>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>> >>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>> >>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. > > **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post is made up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support your claims, that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first place. >>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger fish" >>>>>>> are you referring to? >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to stop >>>>>> it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one percent >>>>>> of that released from natural processes. >>>>> >>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. That's >>>>> around 9%. >>>> >>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>> >>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >> >> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal and >> this is the current overall yearly average. > > **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ Look the red line you dumb fuck. That's the ACTUAL reading over time and it goes up and it goes down and it goes back up and so on. Further ONE fucking point does NOT establish the global average. You complain about my making an error.... What do you call this? The height of scientific precision and accuracy. To ignore that CO2 varies on a seasonable basis and asserting that the reading in a single location is determinate of the total global average? Really? Tell you what Trevor....when you can practice what you preach, then we can talk. Until then, your claims are crap, your understanding minimal, and your knowledge all but non-existent.
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 07:28 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm6agoFrt8qU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685917 |
On 17/05/2018 5:04 PM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... >> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>> >>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>> >>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >> >> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. > > > Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post is > made up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support your > claims, that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first place. **Bullshit. I provide cites when requested, or to demonstrate a point. In fact, you failed to respond to my last round of cites, because they shattered your ignorant arguments. However, I will ensure that more cites will be forthcoming in future discussions. > > >>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>> >>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>> >>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>> >>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >> >> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ > > > Look the red line you dumb fuck. **Small, seasonal variation in CO2 levels has never been in dispute. What I disputed was the claim that CO2 levels were presently at 390ppm. They're not and they haven't been that low for several years. > > That's the ACTUAL reading over time and it goes up and it goes down and > it goes back up and so on. > > Further ONE fucking point does NOT establish the global average. > > You complain about my making an error.... > > What do you call this? > > The height of scientific precision and accuracy. > > To ignore that CO2 varies on a seasonable basis and asserting that the > reading in a single location is determinate of the total global average? > > Really? > > Tell you what Trevor....when you can practice what you preach, then we > can talk. > > Until then, your claims are crap, your understanding minimal, and your > knowledge all but non-existent. **LOL. Tell you what, study the information, BEFORE you argue with me. Right now, you're grasping at straws. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 17:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pdkukr$1gbj$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #685982 |
On 5/17/2018 4:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 17/05/2018 5:04 PM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>> >>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>> >>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >> >> >> Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post is >> made up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support your >> claims, that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first >> place. > > **Bullshit. you provide cites when requested, or to demonstrate a point. > In fact, I failed to respond to my last round of cites, because they > shattered your ignorant arguments. However, you will ensure that more > cites will be forthcoming in future discussions. LIAR. you make up numbers without any URL, 9% 43% 17% 95% > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of >>>>>>>> one percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>> >>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>> >>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>> >>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>> >>> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ >> >> >> Look the red line you dumb fuck. > > **Small, seasonal variation in CO2 levels has never been in dispute. > What I disputed was the claim that CO2 levels were presently at 390ppm. LIAR. > > They're not and they haven't been that low for several years. > >> >> That's the ACTUAL reading over time and it goes up and it goes down >> and it goes back up and so on. >> >> Further ONE fucking point does NOT establish the global average. >> >> You complain about my making an error.... >> >> What do you call this? >> >> The height of scientific precision and accuracy. >> >> To ignore that CO2 varies on a seasonable basis and asserting that the >> reading in a single location is determinate of the total global average? >> >> Really? >> >> Tell you what Trevor....when you can practice what you preach, then we >> can talk. >> >> Until then, your claims are crap, your understanding minimal, and your >> knowledge all but non-existent. > > **LOL. Tell you what, I will study the information, BEFORE I argue with you. > Right now, I'm grasping at straws. > >
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