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| Started by | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| First post | 2018-05-12 21:23 -0400 |
| Last post | 2018-05-15 18:09 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 176 — 11 participants |
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Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 21:23 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 21:59 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-13 06:56 +0200
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 15:18 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 00:53 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 04:20 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 14:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 16:05 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:09 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 08:57 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 07:56 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 23:10 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 08:49 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 13:31 -0700
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-16 14:06 -0700
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 07:17 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 16:57 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 09:12 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:17 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 11:45 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-14 22:46 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 13:50 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 00:50 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:47 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:08 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 16:27 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:47 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 09:58 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:26 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 21:58 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 13:21 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:50 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 07:03 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 17:03 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 18:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:50 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 18:45 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 10:52 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:23 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-21 07:39 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-21 19:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 13:41 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 00:02 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 14:36 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 02:15 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 18:04 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:31 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-18 08:43 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 19:18 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 06:46 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:59 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 07:23 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 17:08 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:33 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:13 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:02 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:17 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:49 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:27 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-21 07:41 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-21 19:30 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 13:44 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 00:07 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-22 14:39 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-22 02:15 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:09 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 10:55 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:13 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:51 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:06 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 10:55 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:11 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:52 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:25 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 18:05 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 08:47 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:29 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 22:45 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:13 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 17:26 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 08:10 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:20 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:23 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:03 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:22 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-21 07:43 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:11 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 20:55 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 14:27 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:26 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:16 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:04 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:19 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:53 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 03:04 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 07:28 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 17:10 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 08:35 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:20 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:05 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 21:21 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:56 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 22:28 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:19 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:22 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:15 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 01:40 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:51 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:06 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 16:37 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 10:55 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 08:59 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:29 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:15 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 17:31 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 08:54 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:21 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:21 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:30 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 01:39 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:54 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:03 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 09:04 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:30 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-15 19:18 -0600
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 22:01 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:34 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:31 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:00 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:30 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 22:27 -0700
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 00:55 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:22 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:08 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 02:02 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 16:45 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 09:06 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 08:01 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 20:16 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:36 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-14 21:06 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 15:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 08:40 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:05 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:31 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 22:07 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-16 04:06 -0600
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:48 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 00:57 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 16:06 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:33 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 20:26 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:18 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-16 08:00 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:39 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 00:54 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 15:43 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 07:36 -0500
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-17 18:06 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:01 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:04 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:29 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:30 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:32 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:39 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 09:42 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-17 19:53 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-18 11:09 +1000
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 19:55 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-17 02:10 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 10:24 -0400
Re: Climate Change causing eruptions in Hawaii "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 18:09 -0400
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 08:35 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm6edgFsn3gU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685997 |
On 18/05/2018 8:10 AM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/17/2018 4:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 17/05/2018 5:04 PM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>> >>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>> >>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>> >>> >>> Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post is >>> made up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support your >>> claims, that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first >>> place. >> >> **Bullshit. you provide cites when requested, or to demonstrate a point. >> In fact, I failed to respond to my last round of cites, because they >> shattered your ignorant arguments. However, you will ensure that more >> cites will be forthcoming in future discussions. > > LIAR. > you make up numbers without any URL, 9% 43% 17% 95% **Nope. Go here and read for yourself: www.ipcc.ch > > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of >>>>>>>>> one percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>>>>> That's around 9%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>>>>> >>>>>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >>>>> >>>>> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal >>>>> and this is the current overall yearly average. >>>> >>>> **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ >>> >>> >>> Look the red line you dumb fuck. >> >> **Small, seasonal variation in CO2 levels has never been in dispute. >> What I disputed was the claim that CO2 levels were presently at 390ppm. > > LIAR. **Do you deny that scout made that claim? You're an idiot. He made the claim. He is wrong. > >> >> They're not and they haven't been that low for several years. >> >>> >>> That's the ACTUAL reading over time and it goes up and it goes down >>> and it goes back up and so on. >>> >>> Further ONE fucking point does NOT establish the global average. >>> >>> You complain about my making an error.... >>> >>> What do you call this? >>> >>> The height of scientific precision and accuracy. >>> >>> To ignore that CO2 varies on a seasonable basis and asserting that the >>> reading in a single location is determinate of the total global average? >>> >>> Really? >>> >>> Tell you what Trevor....when you can practice what you preach, then we >>> can talk. >>> >>> Until then, your claims are crap, your understanding minimal, and your >>> knowledge all but non-existent. >> >> **LOL. Tell you what, I will study the information, BEFORE I argue with you. >> Right now, I'm grasping at straws. >> >> > -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 20:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdl6fb$j4d$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #686010 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm6edgFsn3gU1@mid.individual.net... > On 18/05/2018 8:10 AM, Sergio wrote: >> On 5/17/2018 4:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 17/05/2018 5:04 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, >>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>> >>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>> >>>> >>>> Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post is >>>> made up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support your >>>> claims, that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first >>>> place. >>> >>> **Bullshit. you provide cites when requested, or to demonstrate a point. >>> In fact, I failed to respond to my last round of cites, because they >>> shattered your ignorant arguments. However, you will ensure that more >>> cites will be forthcoming in future discussions. >> >> LIAR. >> you make up numbers without any URL, 9% 43% 17% 95% > > **Nope. Go here and read for yourself: > > > www.ipcc.ch None of the figures indicated show up on the webpage cited. Cite rejected since it fails to support the claims made by you.
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 11:05 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm6n6sFube6U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #686051 |
On 18/05/2018 10:20 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:fm6edgFsn3gU1@mid.individual.net... >> On 18/05/2018 8:10 AM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 5/17/2018 4:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 17/05/2018 5:04 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>> >>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post is >>>>> made up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support your >>>>> claims, that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first >>>>> place. >>>> >>>> **Bullshit. you provide cites when requested, or to demonstrate a >>>> point. >>>> In fact, I failed to respond to my last round of cites, because they >>>> shattered your ignorant arguments. However, you will ensure that more >>>> cites will be forthcoming in future discussions. >>> >>> LIAR. >>> you make up numbers without any URL, 9% 43% 17% 95% >> >> **Nope. Go here and read for yourself: >> >> >> www.ipcc.ch > > None of the figures indicated show up on the webpage cited. **Yes, they do. > > Cite rejected since it fails to support the claims made by you. **You can't reject a cite that you failed to read. The information is there. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 21:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdlas7$7if$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #686068 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm6n6sFube6U4@mid.individual.net... > On 18/05/2018 10:20 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm6edgFsn3gU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 18/05/2018 8:10 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>> On 5/17/2018 4:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 17/05/2018 5:04 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur >>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post is >>>>>> made up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support >>>>>> your >>>>>> claims, that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first >>>>>> place. >>>>> >>>>> **Bullshit. you provide cites when requested, or to demonstrate a >>>>> point. >>>>> In fact, I failed to respond to my last round of cites, because they >>>>> shattered your ignorant arguments. However, you will ensure that more >>>>> cites will be forthcoming in future discussions. >>>> >>>> LIAR. >>>> you make up numbers without any URL, 9% 43% 17% 95% >>> >>> **Nope. Go here and read for yourself: >>> >>> >>> www.ipcc.ch >> >> None of the figures indicated show up on the webpage cited. > > **Yes, they do. Then quote them and tell us exactly where on that webpage they would be seen >> Cite rejected since it fails to support the claims made by you. > > **You can't reject a cite that you failed to read. The information is > there. Where? Here, I can prove that manmade global warming is a fraud. Just follow the link and you can find the proof. https://catalog.loc.gov/
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 11:56 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm6q6mFa42U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #686084 |
On 18/05/2018 11:21 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:fm6n6sFube6U4@mid.individual.net... >> On 18/05/2018 10:20 AM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:fm6edgFsn3gU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 18/05/2018 8:10 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> On 5/17/2018 4:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 17/05/2018 5:04 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> occur at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post is >>>>>>> made up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> claims, that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first >>>>>>> place. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Bullshit. you provide cites when requested, or to demonstrate a >>>>>> point. >>>>>> In fact, I failed to respond to my last round of cites, because they >>>>>> shattered your ignorant arguments. However, you will ensure that more >>>>>> cites will be forthcoming in future discussions. >>>>> >>>>> LIAR. >>>>> you make up numbers without any URL, 9% 43% 17% 95% >>>> >>>> **Nope. Go here and read for yourself: >>>> >>>> >>>> www.ipcc.ch >>> >>> None of the figures indicated show up on the webpage cited. >> >> **Yes, they do. > > Then quote them and tell us exactly where on that webpage they would be > seen **Read it for yourself, you lazy shit-for-brains. If profess to know anything about the topic, then you will have read it already. > >>> Cite rejected since it fails to support the claims made by you. >> >> **You can't reject a cite that you failed to read. The information is >> there. > > Where? ** www.ipcc.ch > > Here, I can prove that manmade global warming is a fraud. **No, you can't. > > Just follow the link and you can find the proof. > > https://catalog.loc.gov/ ** https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/search?searchArg=ipcc&searchCode=GKEY%5E*&searchType=0&recCount=25&sk=en_US -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 22:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdlelb$ol1$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #686094 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm6q6mFa42U6@mid.individual.net... > On 18/05/2018 11:21 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm6n6sFube6U4@mid.individual.net... >>> On 18/05/2018 10:20 AM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:fm6edgFsn3gU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 18/05/2018 8:10 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>> On 5/17/2018 4:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 17/05/2018 5:04 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> message news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls," possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I merely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peoples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> made up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> claims, that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first >>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Bullshit. you provide cites when requested, or to demonstrate a >>>>>>> point. >>>>>>> In fact, I failed to respond to my last round of cites, because they >>>>>>> shattered your ignorant arguments. However, you will ensure that >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> cites will be forthcoming in future discussions. >>>>>> >>>>>> LIAR. >>>>>> you make up numbers without any URL, 9% 43% 17% 95% >>>>> >>>>> **Nope. Go here and read for yourself: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> www.ipcc.ch >>>> >>>> None of the figures indicated show up on the webpage cited. >>> >>> **Yes, they do. >> >> Then quote them and tell us exactly where on that webpage they would be >> seen > > **Read it for yourself, you lazy shit-for-brains. If profess to know > anything about the topic, then you will have read it already. > >> >>>> Cite rejected since it fails to support the claims made by you. >>> >>> **You can't reject a cite that you failed to read. The information is >>> there. >> >> Where? > > ** www.ipcc.ch > >> >> Here, I can prove that manmade global warming is a fraud. > > **No, you can't. According to your standards, I already have. Just click the link. >> Just follow the link and you can find the proof. >> >> https://catalog.loc.gov/ > > ** > https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/search?searchArg=ipcc&searchCode=GKEY%5E*&searchType=0&recCount=25&sk=en_US > > > -- > Trevor Wilson > www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 20:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdl6fa$j4d$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685982 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm6agoFrt8qU1@mid.individual.net... > On 17/05/2018 5:04 PM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>>>> >>>>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >>> >>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. >> >> >> Then you might as well admit that virtually all the crap you post is made >> up....since you virtually can never produce cites to support your claims, >> that's if you don't deny having made the claim in the first place. > > **Bullshit. I provide cites when requested, or to demonstrate a point. Then prove to us that the man made CO2 is a significant input into global warming as you asserted it is. Oh, and I require PROOF, not theories, not suppositions, not projections, nor assertions, but actual PROOF. After all, your asserting that it was left no margin for error, so clearly you must have such proof at hand. Otherwise, you're making claims you can't back up.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 07:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pdjs79$1i75$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #685828 |
On 5/16/2018 4:11 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>> message news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eruptions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>> is employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a >>>>>>> little over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists >>>>>>> believe we have already passed the tipping point. >>>>>> >>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>> >>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>> >>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. > > **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. > >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger >>>>>>> fish" are you referring to? >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to >>>>>> stop it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one >>>>>> percent of that released from natural processes. >>>>> >>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. >>>>> That's around 9%. >>>> >>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>> >>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >> >> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal and >> this is the current overall yearly average. > > **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ > >> >>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>> >>> **Irrelevant. >> >> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? > > **Nope. Calculating 9% of 0.039% is irrelevant. > >> >> Nice for you to admit that. > > **Again: When I want to know how to load a firearm, I'll ask you. If you > want to discuss science with me, then you will need to do a great deal > more study. You are way out of your depth. you dont know science or math, that is obvious, just a snotty troll, > >> >>> You fail to understand what was written. Humans are, AT PRESENT, >>> contributing around 9% of all CO2 emissions. >> >> Yep, which constitutes a vanishingly small percentage of the total >> green house gas emissions. > > **Well, no. CO2 represents between 9% ~ 26% of Solar forcing and is, > thus, a significant driver of global warming. Since humans have added > around 43% of CO2 into the atmosphere, humans have had a significant > effect to the climate. cite ? > >> >> >>>> So, 0.00351% of all Green House Gases are from man's release of CO2. >>> >>> **Nope. Not even close. >> >> Then feel free to give me your scientifically supported analysis. > > **Again: Humans are contributing around 9% of total CO2 emissions. > That's a very significant amount of CO2. Since the CO2 molecule is a > very stable one, CO2 that has been emitted by humans mostly remains in > the atmosphere, such that, to date, humans have contributed around 43% > of the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. cite ? > > But I've explained all this to you before. Your 0.00351% number is based > on a bunch of false assumptions. > > Key among these assumptions is that the significance of 410ppm of CO2 in > the atmosphere is insignificant. THAT is the key problem you need to > educate yourself on. 410ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere is very significant. > > >> >> After all, 9% of a very small number is still a very small number. > > **Irrelevant. 0.04% alcohol in the human blood steam is a very small > amount. It is a figure that makes it illegal for commercial drivers to > get behind the wheel in the US, because they are considered impaired. > >> >> But hell, let's say I was off by an entire order of magnitude. >> >> Does 0.0351% sound better? >> >> How about 2 orders of magnitude? >> >> 0.351%....still only a fraction of 1%. > > > **Again: Irrelevant. your irrelevant is irrelevant > >> >> >> >> Your ability to understand scientific concepts >>> is rather poor. I suggest you read, rather than type. You have a >>> great deal to learn. >>> >>> The effects of CO2 are, for all intents, cumulative. Since the mid >>> 19th century, humans have increased the total atmospheric CO2 by >>> around 43%. >> >> Oh, so CO2 once in the atmosphere remains forever? > > **CO2 is estimated to remain in the atmosphere for upwards of several > hundred years. cite? > >> >> Exactly what scientific paper out of your ass did you pull that? > > ** https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases > >
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 20:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdl6f9$j4d$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685828 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm3l5dF9q3iU1@mid.individual.net... > On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm16d0Fnk5tU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 15/05/2018 4:47 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:flvcveFb1hcU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:08 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:flvak3Fai9hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 2:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:50:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>>> for NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep ... come the [next] tipping point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **What "next" tipping point would that be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The general consensus is that the 'tipping point' will occur at >>>>>>> approximately 500ppm of CO2 concentration. We presently at a little >>>>>>> over 410ppm. That said, a minority of climatologists believe we have >>>>>>> already passed the tipping point. >>>>>> >>>>>> really? I remember when it was 350...and then later 400.... >>>>> >>>>> **Cite where you saw such a thing. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but I'm not here to try and solve your ignorance. >>> >>> **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. > > **I accept that you never saw it. You just made it up. > >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Until we can watch that tipping point come and go without >>>>>>>> consequence >>>>>>>> (like all the others before it), there are bigger fish to fry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Well, if the predictions about the tipping point are correct, >>>>>>> there won't be any fish left to fry. So to speak. What "bigger fish" >>>>>>> are you referring to? >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, if that's the tipping point there is NOTHING man can do to stop >>>>>> it or prevent it. our sum total amounts to a fraction of one percent >>>>>> of that released from natural processes. >>>>> >>>>> **Approximately 440 X 10^9 Tonnes of CO2 is produced by natural >>>>> processes. Humans are responsible for another 40 X 10^9 Tonnes. That's >>>>> around 9%. >>>> >>>> CO2 makes around 0.039% of the atmosphere >>> >>> **Try 410ppm. Do try to get into the 21st century with your data. >> >> Then you should also be aware that CO2 concentrations are seasonal and >> this is the current overall yearly average. > > **No: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ > >> >>>> What's 9% of 0.039%? >>> >>> **Irrelevant. >> >> So facts are irrelevant to your claims? > > **Nope. Calculating 9% of 0.039% is irrelevant. > >> >> Nice for you to admit that. > > **Again: When I want to know how to load a firearm, I'll ask you. If you > want to discuss science with me, then you will need to do a great deal > more study. You are way out of your depth. Trevor, you lack the knowledge to even be able to hold a rational discussion on this subject. That and your apparently sense of infallibility and superiority that allows you to make assertions that you have NO WAY OF KNOWING WHETHER THEY ARE TRUE.....puts you way outside your depth. Yet, you're constantly telling everyone else they are wrong as if somehow you, and you alone, know everything there is to know about this entire subject. Oh, but then you tell us your not an expert on this subject....you're just a know nothing blow hard.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 01:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pddrub$2ng$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685511 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... > On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> >>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions that >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for their >>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still nobody >>>>>>>>>>>> takes >>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has caused >>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very clever. The >>>>>>>>> US >>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food with it. >>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>> >>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for NSA, >>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt that >>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," possibly >>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>> >>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>> >>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the track. >>>>> >>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are employed >>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is employed >>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio is >>>>> stupid. >>>> >>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I merely >>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>> >>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>> >>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >> >> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, security >> and prosperity on Earth?" > > **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the planet, > along with various critters and flora. In the future, it promises to be a > MUCH bigger problem. Yea, because in the future we will have massive global cooling....ice sheets sweeping down from the north....starvation....dislocation....sea levels falling....oh, the horror of it all.
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 15:51 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685523 |
On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> >>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still nobody >>>>>>>>>>>>> takes >>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has caused >>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very clever. >>>>>>>>>> The US >>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food with it. >>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for NSA, >>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt that >>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," possibly >>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the track. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are employed >>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>> employed >>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio is >>>>>> stupid. >>>>> >>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I merely >>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>> >>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>> >>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>> >>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, security >>> and prosperity on Earth?" >> >> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. > > Yea, because in the future we will have massive global cooling....ice > sheets sweeping down from the north....starvation....dislocation....sea > levels falling....oh, the horror of it all. **And just when do you think that will occur? How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures are rising? I assume you are aware that an ice age is accompanied by FALLING temperatures, not rising temperatures? What knowledge do you possess that all the planet's climatologists seem to be unaware of? -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 02:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pddtmp$bmf$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685528 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net... > On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still nobody >>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has caused >>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very clever. The >>>>>>>>>>> US >>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food with it. >>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for NSA, >>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt that >>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," possibly >>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the track. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are employed >>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>> employed >>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio is >>>>>>> stupid. >>>>>> >>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I merely >>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>> >>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>> >>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>> >>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, security >>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>> >>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >> >> Yea, because in the future we will have massive global cooling....ice >> sheets sweeping down from the north....starvation....dislocation....sea >> levels falling....oh, the horror of it all. > > **And just when do you think that will occur? > How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures are > rising? It's called 'history' you might want to look into it sometime. > I assume you are aware that an ice age is accompanied by FALLING > temperatures, not rising temperatures? yea, and evidence is that temperatures have ceased rising and the last 2 years are the coldest consecutive years in the last 100 years. But whether that's just a short term trend or the start of a new long term trend remains to be seen, and only time will tell. > What knowledge do you possess that all the planet's climatologists seem to > be unaware of? The only one unaware of that knowledge would seem to be you. Pretty much everyone else remembers being told about the Ice Ages in school.
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 16:37 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <flvdhkFb575U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685539 |
On 15/05/2018 4:06 PM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net... >> On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very clever. >>>>>>>>>>>> The US >>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food with >>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for >>>>>>>> NSA, >>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the track. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I merely >>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>> >>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>> >>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, security >>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>> >>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>> >>> Yea, because in the future we will have massive global cooling....ice >>> sheets sweeping down from the >>> north....starvation....dislocation....sea levels falling....oh, the >>> horror of it all. >> >> **And just when do you think that will occur? >> How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures are >> rising? > > It's called 'history' you might want to look into it sometime. **Ah, I see. Historical prices of whaling companies showed them to be very profitable. Perhaps I should invest? Or chimney sweeping companies? Another, highly profitable business in the past. Unfortunately, you citing of the past does not tell us what will happen in the future. And again: An ice age is ALWAYS preceded to falling temperatures. We are experiencing RISING temperatures. AND, if you want to examine the past, think on a time when rising temperatures led to an average temperature rise of 10 (TEN) degrees Celcius and the sea levels for a couple of hundred Metres higher than today. Additionally, you should also be aware that the descent into an ice age took AT LEAST 75,000 years in the past. We are, OTOH, experiencing a temperature rise that is more than 100 times more rapid than at any time in at least the past million years. > > > >> I assume you are aware that an ice age is accompanied by FALLING >> temperatures, not rising temperatures? > > yea, and evidence is that temperatures have ceased rising and the last 2 > years are the coldest consecutive years in the last 100 years. **THEY'RE NOT FALLING. They're rising. The hottest years in recorded history are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#Warmest_years 2017 - #3 2016 - #1 So much for your Trumpian Kool-aid. I suggest you acquaint yourself with some facts next time. > > But whether that's just a short term trend or the start of a new long > term trend remains to be seen, and only time will tell. **The trend began in the 19th century and has continued. How much more evidence do you require? > > > >> What knowledge do you possess that all the planet's climatologists >> seem to be unaware of? > > The only one unaware of that knowledge would seem to be you. **So, what knowledge is that? > > Pretty much everyone else remembers being told about the Ice Ages in > school. **I fail to see what prior ice ages have to do with anything. The planet is warming, not cooling. A cooling planet is required for an ice age. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 10:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pdevug$1fsd$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #685545 |
On 5/15/2018 1:37 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 15/05/2018 4:06 PM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net... >>> On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for >>>>>>>>> NSA, >>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the track. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I merely >>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, security >>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>> >>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>> >>>> Yea, because in the future we will have massive global >>>> cooling....ice sheets sweeping down from the >>>> north....starvation....dislocation....sea levels falling....oh, the >>>> horror of it all. >>> >>> **And just when do you think that will occur? >>> How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures are >>> rising? >> >> It's called 'history' you might want to look into it sometime. > > **Ah, I see. Historical prices of whaling companies showed them to be > very profitable. Perhaps I should invest? Or chimney sweeping companies? > Another, highly profitable business in the past. you should be airline isle Qtip ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz3EDgJu8Zk > > Unfortunately, you citing of the past does not tell us what will happen > in the future. like averaging temperatures of the past to predict the future > And again: An ice age is ALWAYS preceded to falling > temperatures. We are experiencing RISING temperatures. no that stopped in 1950, it got paused. > AND, if you want > to examine the past, think on a time when rising temperatures led to an > average temperature rise of 10 (TEN) degrees Celcius and the sea levels > for a couple of hundred Metres higher than today. got URL ? > > Additionally, you should also be aware that the descent into an ice age > took AT LEAST 75,000 years in the past. We are, OTOH, experiencing a > temperature rise that is more than 100 times more rapid than at any time > in at least the past million years. there is no accurate data better than +-10C before 1980, too many varables in data before 1900 >
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-16 08:59 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm172hFnod5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685589 |
On 16/05/2018 1:55 AM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/15/2018 1:37 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 15/05/2018 4:06 PM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for >>>>>>>>>> NSA, >>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the track. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I merely >>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, security >>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>> >>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>> >>>>> Yea, because in the future we will have massive global >>>>> cooling....ice sheets sweeping down from the >>>>> north....starvation....dislocation....sea levels falling....oh, the >>>>> horror of it all. >>>> >>>> **And just when do you think that will occur? >>>> How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures are >>>> rising? >>> >>> It's called 'history' you might want to look into it sometime. >> >> **Ah, I see. Historical prices of whaling companies showed them to be >> very profitable. Perhaps I should invest? Or chimney sweeping companies? >> Another, highly profitable business in the past. > > > you should be airline isle Qtip ; > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz3EDgJu8Zk > > > >> >> Unfortunately, you citing of the past does not tell us what will happen >> in the future. > > like averaging temperatures of the past to predict the future **Well, the immediate past tells us that we are presently experiencing a warming trend. > >> And again: An ice age is ALWAYS preceded to falling >> temperatures. We are experiencing RISING temperatures. > > no that stopped in 1950, it got paused. **Nope. The 10 hottest years on record have all occurred since 1998. All were hotter than 1950. So, you're wrong there (again). > > >> AND, if you want >> to examine the past, think on a time when rising temperatures led to an >> average temperature rise of 10 (TEN) degrees Celcius and the sea levels >> for a couple of hundred Metres higher than today. > > got URL ? **Sure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg > >> >> Additionally, you should also be aware that the descent into an ice age >> took AT LEAST 75,000 years in the past. We are, OTOH, experiencing a >> temperature rise that is more than 100 times more rapid than at any time >> in at least the past million years. > > there is no accurate data better than +-10C before 1980, too many > varables in data before 1900 > **Prove it. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 20:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdfv8k$9q9$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685667 |
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:fm172hFnod5U1@mid.individual.net... > On 16/05/2018 1:55 AM, Sergio wrote: >> On 5/15/2018 1:37 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 15/05/2018 4:06 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for >>>>>>>>>>> NSA, >>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yea, because in the future we will have massive global >>>>>> cooling....ice sheets sweeping down from the >>>>>> north....starvation....dislocation....sea levels falling....oh, the >>>>>> horror of it all. >>>>> >>>>> **And just when do you think that will occur? >>>>> How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures are >>>>> rising? >>>> >>>> It's called 'history' you might want to look into it sometime. >>> >>> **Ah, I see. Historical prices of whaling companies showed them to be >>> very profitable. Perhaps I should invest? Or chimney sweeping companies? >>> Another, highly profitable business in the past. >> >> >> you should be airline isle Qtip ; >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz3EDgJu8Zk >> >> >> >>> >>> Unfortunately, you citing of the past does not tell us what will happen >>> in the future. >> >> like averaging temperatures of the past to predict the future > > **Well, the immediate past tells us that we are presently experiencing a > warming trend. Yea and have been for the last 12,000 years. So what's new?
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 07:15 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm3lbhF9q3iU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685697 |
On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:fm172hFnod5U1@mid.individual.net... >> On 16/05/2018 1:55 AM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 5/15/2018 1:37 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 15/05/2018 4:06 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for >>>>>>>>>>>> NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yea, because in the future we will have massive global >>>>>>> cooling....ice sheets sweeping down from the >>>>>>> north....starvation....dislocation....sea levels falling....oh, the >>>>>>> horror of it all. >>>>>> >>>>>> **And just when do you think that will occur? >>>>>> How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures are >>>>>> rising? >>>>> >>>>> It's called 'history' you might want to look into it sometime. >>>> >>>> **Ah, I see. Historical prices of whaling companies showed them to be >>>> very profitable. Perhaps I should invest? Or chimney sweeping >>>> companies? >>>> Another, highly profitable business in the past. >>> >>> >>> you should be airline isle Qtip ; >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz3EDgJu8Zk >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, you citing of the past does not tell us what will happen >>>> in the future. >>> >>> like averaging temperatures of the past to predict the future >> >> **Well, the immediate past tells us that we are presently experiencing >> a warming trend. > > Yea and have been for the last 12,000 years. **Nope. The past 12,000 years has seen relatively flat temperatures. In the past century, things have been hotting up. > > So what's new? **The recent warming, of course. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-16 17:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Dq1LC.181395$RM2.178247@fx05.iad> |
| In reply to | #685832 |
On 5/16/2018 5:15 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 16/05/2018 10:29 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:fm172hFnod5U1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 16/05/2018 1:55 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>> On 5/15/2018 1:37 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 15/05/2018 4:06 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven >>>>>>>>>>>> assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yea, because in the future we will have massive global >>>>>>>> cooling....ice sheets sweeping down from the >>>>>>>> north....starvation....dislocation....sea levels falling....oh, the >>>>>>>> horror of it all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **And just when do you think that will occur? >>>>>>> How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> rising? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's called 'history' you might want to look into it sometime. >>>>> >>>>> **Ah, I see. Historical prices of whaling companies showed them to be >>>>> very profitable. Perhaps I should invest? Or chimney sweeping >>>>> companies? >>>>> Another, highly profitable business in the past. >>>> >>>> >>>> you should be airline isle Qtip ; >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz3EDgJu8Zk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, you citing of the past does not tell us what will >>>>> happen >>>>> in the future. >>>> >>>> like averaging temperatures of the past to predict the future >>> >>> **Well, the immediate past tells us that we are presently >>> experiencing a warming trend. >> >> Yea and have been for the last 12,000 years. > > **Nope. The past 12,000 years has seen relatively flat temperatures. In > the past century, things have been hotting up. Relatively flat??? Just HOW did that mile of ice over my house manage to melt? I thought "climate change" made the seas rise 400 feet? Maybe you need to study a bit more science. >> So what's new? > > **The recent warming, of course. He means the "climate change" causing the recent Hawaiian eruptions, natch. Oh wait. The "climate change" is old, but eruptions are new.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-16 08:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pdhd7b$1ea6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #685667 |
On 5/15/2018 5:59 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 16/05/2018 1:55 AM, Sergio wrote: >> On 5/15/2018 1:37 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 15/05/2018 4:06 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for >>>>>>>>>>> NSA, >>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yea, because in the future we will have massive global >>>>>> cooling....ice sheets sweeping down from the >>>>>> north....starvation....dislocation....sea levels falling....oh, the >>>>>> horror of it all. >>>>> >>>>> **And just when do you think that will occur? >>>>> How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures are >>>>> rising? >>>> >>>> It's called 'history' you might want to look into it sometime. >>> >>> **Ah, I see. Historical prices of whaling companies showed them to be >>> very profitable. Perhaps I should invest? Or chimney sweeping companies? >>> Another, highly profitable business in the past. >> >> >> you should be airline isle Qtip ; >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz3EDgJu8Zk >> >> >> >>> >>> Unfortunately, you citing of the past does not tell us what will happen >>> in the future. >> >> like averaging temperatures of the past to predict the future > > **Well, the immediate past tells us that we are presently experiencing a > warming trend. > > >> >>> And again: An ice age is ALWAYS preceded to falling >>> temperatures. We are experiencing RISING temperatures. >> >> no that stopped in 1950, it got paused. > > **Nope. The 10 hottest years on record have all occurred since 1998. All > were hotter than 1950. So, you're wrong there (again). > >> >> >>> AND, if you want >>> to examine the past, think on a time when rising temperatures led to an >>> average temperature rise of 10 (TEN) degrees Celcius and the sea levels >>> for a couple of hundred Metres higher than today. >> >> got URL ? > > **Sure: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg > > >> >>> >>> Additionally, you should also be aware that the descent into an ice age >>> took AT LEAST 75,000 years in the past. We are, OTOH, experiencing a >>> temperature rise that is more than 100 times more rapid than at any time >>> in at least the past million years. >> >> there is no accurate data better than +-10C before 1980, too many >> varables in data before 1900 >> > > **Prove it. > > Were all thermometers calibrated from one master thermometer in 1800 ? how about 1850 ? how about 1900 ? how about 200 ad ? Today - try the thermometers in your house and at the drug store do they all read within 0.1 C ? how about 1 C ? how about 3 C ?
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-17 07:21 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fm3lmuF9tpnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685756 |
On 16/05/2018 11:54 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/15/2018 5:59 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 16/05/2018 1:55 AM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 5/15/2018 1:37 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 15/05/2018 4:06 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>> news:flvareFai9hU5@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> On 15/05/2018 3:40 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:flv3pcF97jvU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 12:46 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:45:49 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2018 11:17 AM, Scout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>> news:flrob5FhajbU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:28 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:20:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:53 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 12:18 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 2:56 PM, Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:23 PM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Hawaii half underwater from rising sea levels, a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerged with Global Warming creating volcanic eruptions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engulfing the Big Island and have residents running for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole neighborhoods have been eaten alive but still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change seriously! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/326542/climate-change-in-hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that pesky 0.1 C temperature rise from 1920 to 2018 has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [.....] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US has its anti climate change trolls as Russia has its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **With one, major, difference. The Russians are very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever. The US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trolls,....not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russian trolls get payed, not much, but you can buy food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US trolls are NSA and CIA and FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You work for the NSA, CIA or FBI? I call bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, the logic train went off the track. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. Segio is a troll. Sergio claimed that trolls worked for >>>>>>>>>>>> NSA, >>>>>>>>>>>> CIA or FBI. I call bullshit on that. Sergio is a moron. I doubt >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> those organisations employ morons like Sergio. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Poutnik said something about "anti climate change trolls," >>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>>>>>> implying that alarmist climate-FUD trolls are okay. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Sergio generalized about US trolls. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Sergio is a US troll. The link has been made. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you jumped to reaction of some kind. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't usual for an alarmist's logic train to go off the >>>>>>>>>>>>> track. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Since Sergio is a troll and he claimed that US trolls are >>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>> by NSA, CIA or FBI, it is reasonable to assume that Sergio is >>>>>>>>>>>> employed >>>>>>>>>>>> by one of these organisations. I call bullshit, because Sergio >>>>>>>>>>>> is stupid. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I call bullshit on your unsupported and unproven assumption..... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **As is your right to do so. Sergio made the insane claim. I >>>>>>>>>> merely >>>>>>>>>> carried it to its logical conclusion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now, to drag it back onto topic: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why do you think global warming is occurring? >>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is a potential problem? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Potential* problem, or "the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>> and prosperity on Earth?" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **It is a problem right now, for various places and peoples on the >>>>>>>> planet, along with various critters and flora. In the future, it >>>>>>>> promises to be a MUCH bigger problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yea, because in the future we will have massive global >>>>>>> cooling....ice sheets sweeping down from the >>>>>>> north....starvation....dislocation....sea levels falling....oh, the >>>>>>> horror of it all. >>>>>> >>>>>> **And just when do you think that will occur? >>>>>> How can you claim we are headed for an ice age, when temperatures are >>>>>> rising? >>>>> >>>>> It's called 'history' you might want to look into it sometime. >>>> >>>> **Ah, I see. Historical prices of whaling companies showed them to be >>>> very profitable. Perhaps I should invest? Or chimney sweeping companies? >>>> Another, highly profitable business in the past. >>> >>> >>> you should be airline isle Qtip ; >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz3EDgJu8Zk >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, you citing of the past does not tell us what will happen >>>> in the future. >>> >>> like averaging temperatures of the past to predict the future >> >> **Well, the immediate past tells us that we are presently experiencing a >> warming trend. >> >> >>> >>>> And again: An ice age is ALWAYS preceded to falling >>>> temperatures. We are experiencing RISING temperatures. >>> >>> no that stopped in 1950, it got paused. >> >> **Nope. The 10 hottest years on record have all occurred since 1998. All >> were hotter than 1950. So, you're wrong there (again). >> >>> >>> >>>> AND, if you want >>>> to examine the past, think on a time when rising temperatures led to an >>>> average temperature rise of 10 (TEN) degrees Celcius and the sea levels >>>> for a couple of hundred Metres higher than today. >>> >>> got URL ? >> >> **Sure: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> Additionally, you should also be aware that the descent into an ice age >>>> took AT LEAST 75,000 years in the past. We are, OTOH, experiencing a >>>> temperature rise that is more than 100 times more rapid than at any time >>>> in at least the past million years. >>> >>> there is no accurate data better than +-10C before 1980, too many >>> varables in data before 1900 >>> >> >> **Prove it. >> >> > > Were all thermometers calibrated from one master thermometer in 1800 ? **Probably. The modern, mercury in glass thermometer was invented in the early 18th century, though basic thermometers have been around for 2,000 years. The accuracy of mercury in glass thermometers has been well established and very good for hundreds of years. > > how about 1850 ? **Probably. The modern, mercury in glass thermometer was invented in the early 18th century, though basic thermometers have been around for 2,000 years. The accuracy of mercury in glass thermometers has been well established and very good for hundreds of years. > > how about 1900 ? **Probably. The modern, mercury in glass thermometer was invented in the early 18th century, though basic thermometers have been around for 2,000 years. The accuracy of mercury in glass thermometers has been well established and very good for hundreds of years. > > how about 200 ad ? **Basic measurements were available back then, though, I suspect, with limited accuracy. > > Today - try the thermometers in your house and at the drug store do they > all read within 0.1 C ? how about 1 C ? how about 3 C ? **No idea. I use an industrial quality thermometer, which can easily resolve 0.1 C and is rated accurate to 1,200 degrees C. That said, most cheap digital thermometers are not as accurate as mercury in glass types. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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