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Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman

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  Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-11 18:37 -0500
    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 17:21 -0700
      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 21:47 -0400
        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 21:53 -0400
        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 19:17 -0700
      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 09:32 -0700
      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 09:39 -0700
    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 21:30 -0400
      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 18:45 -0700
        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 22:03 -0400
    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-12 12:03 +1000
      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 14:47 -0400
        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 07:24 +1000
          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 19:44 -0400
            Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 19:08 +1000
              Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:28 -0400
              Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 12:45 -0400
                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 12:23 -0500
                  Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 04:28 +1000
                    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 14:34 -0400
                      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 05:13 +1000
                        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 15:31 -0400
                          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 05:47 +1000
                            Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 16:25 -0500
                              Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 07:58 +1000
                                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 17:10 -0500
                                  Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 08:23 +1000
                                    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 17:31 -0500
                            Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 17:48 -0400
                              Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 08:32 +1000
                                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 18:37 -0400
                                  Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 08:44 +1000
                                    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 11:32 -0700
                                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-13 20:36 -0500
                    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 11:50 -0400
                      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-14 13:59 -0500
                        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 18:13 -0400
                          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-14 17:18 -0500
                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 04:26 +1000
                  Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 14:30 -0400
                    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 04:35 +1000
                      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 14:56 -0400
                        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 05:10 +1000
                          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 15:27 -0400
                            Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-13 12:48 -0700
                              Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 06:01 +1000
                                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 12:07 -0400
                              Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 17:49 -0400
                            Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 05:50 +1000
                              Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 16:39 -0500
                                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 08:29 +1000
                                  Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 18:26 -0500
                                    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 16:46 -0700
                                      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 20:04 -0500
                                      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 07:18 -0700
                                        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 10:47 -0700
                                          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 14:37 -0400
                                            Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 13:58 -0500
                                    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 10:04 +1000
                                      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 19:58 -0500
                                        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 11:01 +1000
                                          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 20:09 -0500
                                            Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 07:57 +1000
                                              Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 20:18 -0500
                                                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 12:19 +1000
                                                  Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-17 12:20 -0500
                                          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 21:33 -0400
                              Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 17:54 -0400
                                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 08:00 +1000
                          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 12:03 -0400
                      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 12:00 -0400
                        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 09:11 +1000
                  Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 11:37 -0400
                    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 09:28 +1000
                      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-14 22:27 -0400
                        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 10:45 -0700
                          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 11:31 -0700
                          Politians will take as much money from you as they possibly can. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-15 16:39 -0700
                            Re: Politians will take as much money from you as they possibly can. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:45 +1000
                              Re: Politians will take as much money from you as they possibly can. James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 19:36 -0700
                                Re: Politians will take as much money from you as they possibly can. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 19:50 +1000
                        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 07:45 +1000
                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 11:21 -0400
    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 11:10 -0500
      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 11:53 -0500
      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 10:39 -0700
        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 14:14 -0700
          Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 19:09 -0500
        Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 15:38 -0500
      Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-12 13:48 -0400
    Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 15:44 -0700

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#685746 — Re: Politians will take as much money from you as they possibly can.

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-16 19:50 +1000
SubjectRe: Politians will take as much money from you as they possibly can.
Message-ID<fm2d7pFo15U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#685716
On 16/05/2018 12:36 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 4:46:12 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 16/05/2018 9:39 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>> We can only control our own contribution of CO2.
>>>>
>>>> it doesn't take a climate scientist to realize that
>>>> pushing a system into a positive feedback loop
>>>> can lead to extreme behavior.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. Big-picture, is it harmful or helpful?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Is it worth the risk to wait for a clear answer before
>>>>      acting to deal with the potential damage
>>>
>>> We need Oxygen ( from plants ), and plants need CabonDiOxide.
>>>
>>> We'll die, someday, because that's how nature works.
>>>
>>> Politians will take as much money from you as they possibly can,
>>> and _any_ excuse will do, truthy or not.
>>>
>>
>> **"Politians" (sic) have a justifiably bad rap. Scientists don't.
>>
>>
>> Ignore the "politians" (sic) and listen to the scientists (climatologists).
>>
>> -- 
>> Trevor Wilson
>> www.rageaudio.com.au
> 
> Climate scientists are politicians.  They sure aren't scientists.
> 

**Since you are not even a scientist's arsehole, you wouldn't know a 
scientist from a brick.

-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#685648

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-16 07:45 +1000
Message-ID<fm12nvFms3iU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#685499
On 15/05/2018 12:27 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2018 09:28:58 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>>
>>   Do we simply define "excess" as ANY amount that man
>>> creates whether it does anything or not?
>>
>> **Stupid question. It is now absolutely undeniable that CO2 is causing
>> this planet to warm. Therefore, the excess CO2 is undesirable.
> 
> non sequitur.
> 
> Why "therefore?"
> 
> You are assuming *any* warming is bad.
> 
>> The ONLY
>> question that is uncertain (though it is barely that, since confidence
>> level runs at around 95%) is: Will temperatures rise uncontrollably, if
>> nothing is done to stop CO2 emissions?
> 
> "Uncontrollably?"

**Yes, uncontrollably.

> 
> First, our level of control is doubtful.

**I believe a more correct term would be: 'Uncertain'.

Since we can control CO2 emissions, then we can control how much CO2 
enters the atmosphere. The uncertainty arises from two things:

* The political will of every nation and person on the planet to address 
the problem.
* IF the 'tipping point' has already been reached (as a minority of 
climatologists believe), then no amount of CO2 emissions reduction will 
do much at all.


> 
> If by "uncontrollably" you mean without limit, the answer is obviously
> "no" and it doesn't take a climate scientist to realize that a finite
> system can't warm to an infinite temperature.

**This particular planet has already seen very high CO2 levels and 
average temperatures that exceed the average over the past 1,000 years 
by more than 10 degrees C. A 10 degree C rise would be utterly 
catastrophic for the majority of humans on this planet. Our civilisation 
would be completely altered (in a bad way).

> 
>> There is some debate over this question. And it is the ONLY question
>> under any kind of debate among climatologists. Even the denier's poster
>> boy, Lindzen, agrees that CO2 has warmed this planet.
> 
> 
> <https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/04/07/asking-the-wrong-question/>
> The main issue is not: Is human-caused climate change occurring?
> Repeatedly, Dyson tells us that “the fact that it exists is not a
> question.” To ferociously insist – as politicians and activists do –
> that man-made climate change is real is meaningless. That remark is
> worthy of a child. It demonstrates no sophistication whatsoever.
> 
> The crucial questions are, instead:
> 
> 1. Is humanity’s effect on the climate large or small?

**Given the nature of prior temperature swings, it is self-evident that 
man's influence on the climate is massive. At no time, in at least the 
past million years or so, has the average temperature of the planet 
risen so fast nor so far. In fact, the temperature rise is more than 100 
times more rapid than at any time every recorded. I call that 'massive'.


> 2. Big-picture, is it harmful or helpful?

**Well, that is a complicated question, as different parts and 
populations will be affected in different ways. For instance:

* Here in my own nation, Australia, global warming is rapidly destroying 
the sensitive Great Barrier Reef system. Tens of thousands of jobs are 
at risk. Fish nurseries are being destroyed, thus fish stocks are being 
depleted, costing yet more jobs.

* Places like Bangladesh, NYC, London, Florida, So Cal and others will 
lose valuable real estate (and farming land, in the case of Bangladesh) 
due to even quite small amounts of sea level rise. Larger sea level rise 
(when the Greenland ice sheets melt) will lead to a 7 Metre sea level 
rise. This will spread the catastrophe to many more humans.

* Places like Alaska, Greenland, Northern Canada, Northern China, Russia 
and other places may benefit (though Polar bear won't) with global 
warming. That said, although Greenland has seen increases in arable land 
over the past few decades, their climate has shifted in such a way that 
droughts have been experienced in Greenland for the first time in their 
recorded history. The benefits are uncertain, at best.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/11/17/502349923/climate-change-is-making-greenland-warmer-but-farmers-there-are-struggling



-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#685407

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-14 11:21 -0400
Message-ID<YPhKC.40153$p05.13438@fx28.iad>
In reply to#685225
On 5/13/2018 12:45 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2018 19:08:26 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> **Fuck me, you're an idiot. CO2 is _a_ driver of warming. There are
>> others.
> 
> But CO2 is the poster child for "the cause."
> 
> Why is that?
> 
Haven't figured out how to tax the oceans yet!
Watervapor and CLOUDS "THE" cause of any Greenhouse effects.

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#685071

FromLofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-12 11:10 -0500
Message-ID<6mudfdd99arvccpc9ir72o3sdo9mfvdhh0@4ax.com>
In reply to#684993
On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:37:28 -0500, Sergio wrote:

> John Coleman, co-founder of the Weather Channel, shocked the world and
> the scientific community when he claimed that there is little
> scientific evidence to prove that global warming is real, and that the
> whole thing has become nothing but a political tool that is not backed
> by true scientific evidence....

He did, he did.  He shocked us all.  After all, we thought there weren't
any cretins employed by the Weather Channel.  It was a big surprise.

Then again, twenty years ago I knew the co-founder of a software
consultancy who knew nothing about IT.  They did a lot of government
work; his principal skill was bribery.  So it goes.

By the way, from the laudatory tone of your post one would think this
guy was a friend of yours, yet in the same opening sentence you show him
up as a hopelessly demented fuckwit.  What gives there?

Next thing you know, McGinn will be quoting him here.  Oh, and hell is
full and the dead are walking the earth.  What else is new?

-- 
Goat

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#685076

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-05-12 11:53 -0500
Message-ID<pd767l$gud$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#685071
On 5/12/2018 11:10 AM, Lofty Goat wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:37:28 -0500, Sergio wrote:
> 
>> John Coleman, co-founder of the Weather Channel, shocked the world and
>> the scientific community when he claimed that there is little
>> scientific evidence to prove that global warming is real, and that the
>> whole thing has become nothing but a political tool that is not backed
>> by true scientific evidence....
> 
> He did, he did.  He shocked us all.  After all, we thought there weren't
> any cretins employed by the Weather Channel.  It was a big surprise.
> 
> Then again, twenty years ago I knew the co-founder of a software
> consultancy who knew nothing about IT.  They did a lot of government
> work; his principal skill was bribery.  So it goes.

I knew a guy like that, but he did not use any bribery, but he was a
smooth talker, did the front end customer contact, and could talk
customer into starting a test trial for a fixed amount of $, absolutily
have to have guys like that.

> 
> By the way, from the laudatory tone of your post one would think this
> guy was a friend of yours, yet in the same opening sentence you show him
> up as a hopelessly demented fuckwit.  What gives there?

the article is in a pro GW mag, and Coleman is anti-GW

> 
> Next thing you know, McGinn will be quoting him here.  Oh, and hell is
> full and the dead are walking the earth.  What else is new?

McGinn, zug-zug.





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#685079

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-12 10:39 -0700
Message-ID<7df28458-27ac-4e23-9942-ffdda16c04fe@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#685071
On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 9:10:02 AM UTC-7, Lofty Goat wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:37:28 -0500, Sergio wrote:
> 
> > John Coleman, co-founder of the Weather Channel, shocked the world and
> > the scientific community when he claimed that there is little
> > scientific evidence to prove that global warming is real, and that the
> > whole thing has become nothing but a political tool that is not backed
> > by true scientific evidence....
> 
> He did, he did.  He shocked us all.  After all, we thought there weren't
> any cretins employed by the Weather Channel.  It was a big surprise.
> 
> Then again, twenty years ago I knew the co-founder of a software
> consultancy who knew nothing about IT.  They did a lot of government
> work; his principal skill was bribery.  So it goes.
> 
> By the way, from the laudatory tone of your post one would think this
> guy was a friend of yours, yet in the same opening sentence you show him
> up as a hopelessly demented fuckwit.  What gives there?
> 
> Next thing you know, McGinn will be quoting him here.  Oh, and hell is
> full and the dead are walking the earth.  What else is new?
> 
> -- 
> Goat

You simpletons think everything in science is binary.  The reality is that there are many different flavors of scientific belief.  Coleman is a meteorologist and so he was not a physicist and frankly--like all meteorologists--he does not have a physical understanding of the atmosphere.  E

As Sergio demonstrates vividly, you don't need to be smart to realize that global warming is just nonsense. 

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#685109

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-05-12 14:14 -0700
Message-ID<0d00b79c-b10e-431d-ad2b-920a6d6bee30@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#685079
On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 10:39:33 AM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote:

> You simpletons think everything in science is binary.  The reality is that there are many different flavors of scientific belief.  Coleman is a meteorologist and so he was not a physicist and frankly--like all meteorologists--he does not have a physical understanding of the atmosphere.

Coleman's degree was in journalism. He was a TV weatherman and was never a meteorologist. Just like YOU. Jim, he was not any kind of scientist.

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#685143

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-05-12 19:09 -0500
Message-ID<pd7vne$1sb6$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#685109
On 5/12/2018 4:14 PM, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 10:39:33 AM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote:
> 
>> You simpletons think everything in science is binary.  The reality is that there are many different flavors of scientific belief.  Coleman is a meteorologist and so he was not a physicist and frankly--like all meteorologists--he does not have a physical understanding of the atmosphere.
> 
> Coleman's degree was in journalism. He was a TV weatherman and was never a meteorologist. Just like YOU. Jim, he was not any kind of scientist.
> 


Hey Jim, ever find your missing Cold Steam ?

https://static.pexels.com/photos/45222/forest-fog-nature-winter-45222.jpeg

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#685293

FromLofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-13 15:38 -0500
Message-ID<652ffdhj2rptvb5vbc8sohrudd64ejjn78@4ax.com>
In reply to#685079
On Sat, 12 May 2018 10:39:30 -0700 (PDT), James McGinn wrote:

> You simpletons think....

Indeed, hell *is* full and the dead are walking the earth.

Jim, at least some of us think.

-- 
Goat

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#685082

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2018-05-12 13:48 -0400
Message-ID<e4aefd9kctkdvji94ha9na101oo985q16t@4ax.com>
In reply to#685071
On Sat, 12 May 2018 11:10:14 -0500, Lofty Goat wrote:

>On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:37:28 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>
>> John Coleman, co-founder of the Weather Channel, shocked the world and
>> the scientific community when he claimed that there is little
>> scientific evidence to prove that global warming is real, and that the
>> whole thing has become nothing but a political tool that is not backed
>> by true scientific evidence....
>
>He did, he did.  He shocked us all.

It seems he didn't shock some back to reality ...

>  After all, we thought there weren't
>any cretins employed by the Weather Channel.  It was a big surprise.
>
>Then again, twenty years ago I knew the co-founder of a software
>consultancy who knew nothing about IT.  They did a lot of government
>work; his principal skill was bribery.  So it goes.
>
>By the way, from the laudatory tone of your post one would think this
>guy was a friend of yours, yet in the same opening sentence you show him
>up as a hopelessly demented fuckwit.  What gives there?
>
>Next thing you know, McGinn will be quoting him here.  Oh, and hell is
>full and the dead are walking the earth.  What else is new?

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#685325

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-13 15:44 -0700
Message-ID<0c0a8298-45fa-40f3-bcba-df780b1f55a0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#684993
On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 7:37:49 PM UTC-4, Sergio wrote:
> http://www.techtimes.com/articles/18641/20141025/global-warning-is-a-big-fat-lie-and-the-science-behind-it-is-fake-john-coleman.htm
> 
> John Coleman, co-founder of the Weather Channel, shocked the world and
> the scientific community when he claimed that there is little scientific
> evidence to prove that global warming is real, and that the whole thing
> has become nothing but a political tool that is not backed by true
> scientific evidence.

Ho hum. Old news.
He first spoke out this way in 2007, so not much shock value.

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