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Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change

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First post2015-08-04 08:15 -0500
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  Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 08:15 -0500
    Re: Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 08:22 -0500
    Re: Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-04 17:31 +0000
      Re: Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 01:46 -0400
        Re: Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:15 -0400
    Re: Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 16:42 -0500
    Re: Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:16 -0700

#511155 — Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 08:15 -0500
SubjectSucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change
Message-ID<R4qdnYc_CYh2J13InZ2dnUU7-YMAAAAA@giganews.com>
Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change
> http://news.sciencemag.org/chemistry/2015/08/sucking-carbon-sky-may-not-slow-climate-change

> CDR technologies belong to a class of climate change–fighting
> techniques known as geoengineering. They include enhancing forests to
> make them absorb more CO2, building chemical plants that filter the
> air directly, and burning biofuels and storing the emitted carbon
> dioxide underground. These may sound far-fetched, but the
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded last year that
> reaching a key emissions goal—roughly equivalent to limiting warming
> to 2°C by 2100—would rely on the deployment of one or several CDR
> technologies. Deploying them could cost more than a trillion dollars,
> one expert estimates.
>
> The new study puts the concept of CDR to the test—without getting
> into the specifics of which technology to use. The authors used
> computer simulations to figure out what would happen if engineers
> removed a whopping 5 gigatons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
> each year. Achieving that goal, equivalent to removing roughly half
> the amount of CO2 that is now emitted from manmade sources, would
> require a gargantuan global effort. (To visualize the scale, imagine
> 5000 new facilities each roughly the size of a sports stadium.)
>
> Yet the scientists found the environmental benefits of such a massive
> technological campaign were surprisingly small, especially in terms
> of protecting the ocean from the impacts of climate change. One key
> impact of rising CO2 levels is seen in the pH of ocean waters—the
> global sea surface has been acidified by roughly 0.1 units and
> impacts on marine shells are beginning to show. But the experiment
> demonstrated that the CDR campaign had only limited effect to reverse
> that trend: Without the CDR the surface pH was reduced by 0.75 units
> by 2200; with CDR the acidification was reduced 0.7 units, the team
> reports online today in Nature Climate Change.



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#511156

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 08:22 -0500
Message-ID<R4qdnYY_CYgFIV3InZ2dnUU7-YOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511155
On 8/4/15 8:15 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change
>> http://news.sciencemag.org/chemistry/2015/08/sucking-carbon-sky-may-not-slow-climate-change
>>
>
>> CDR technologies belong to a class of climate change–fighting
>> techniques known as geoengineering. They include enhancing forests to
>> make them absorb more CO2, building chemical plants that filter the
>> air directly, and burning biofuels and storing the emitted carbon
>> dioxide underground. These may sound far-fetched, but the
>> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded last year that
>> reaching a key emissions goal—roughly equivalent to limiting warming
>> to 2°C by 2100—would rely on the deployment of one or several CDR
>> technologies. Deploying them could cost more than a trillion dollars,
>> one expert estimates.
>>
>> The new study puts the concept of CDR to the test—without getting
>> into the specifics of which technology to use. The authors used
>> computer simulations to figure out what would happen if engineers
>> removed a whopping 5 gigatons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
>> each year. Achieving that goal, equivalent to removing roughly half
>> the amount of CO2 that is now emitted from manmade sources, would
>> require a gargantuan global effort. (To visualize the scale, imagine
>> 5000 new facilities each roughly the size of a sports stadium.)
>>
>> Yet the scientists found the environmental benefits of such a massive
>> technological campaign were surprisingly small, especially in terms
>> of protecting the ocean from the impacts of climate change. One key
>> impact of rising CO2 levels is seen in the pH of ocean waters—the
>> global sea surface has been acidified by roughly 0.1 units and
>> impacts on marine shells are beginning to show. But the experiment
>> demonstrated that the CDR campaign had only limited effect to reverse
>> that trend: Without the CDR the surface pH was reduced by 0.75 units
>> by 2200; with CDR the acidification was reduced 0.7 units, the team
>> reports online today in Nature Climate Change.


    Your reaction:

    [ ]  So What
    [ ]  It's not happening
    [ ]  Don't mess with my life
    [ ]  It's my grandkids' problem, not mine
    [ ]  What's a mere 2°C, So What
    [ ]  What's a mere 4-6°C, So What
    [ ]  We're Toast


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#511191

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-04 17:31 +0000
Message-ID<fg979c-tes.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#511155
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change

Or in other words, we are all doomed!!


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#511313

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 01:46 -0400
Message-ID<Tqhwx.46118$a55.42233@fx10.iad>
In reply to#511191
On 08/04/2015 01:31 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change
>
> Or in other words, we are all doomed!!
>
>
Well, jimp, we WOULD be doomed if it were true that CO2 is the major 
cause of global warming. Luckily it isn't.



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#511336

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 07:15 -0400
Message-ID<mpsr4l$t3b$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511313
On 8/5/2015 1:46 AM, benj wrote:
>
> Well, jimp, we WOULD be doomed if it were true that CO2 is the major
> cause of global warming. Luckily it isn't.


BJ cops to believing in global warming.


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#511243

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-04 16:42 -0500
Message-ID<mprbjs$v5a$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511155
On 8/4/2015 8:15 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change

what a narrow and biased article.

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#511265

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 15:16 -0700
Message-ID<b97ab57d-1ffe-4ff5-965c-2b9c52039024@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#511155
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 6:15:26 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Sucking carbon from the sky may do little to slow climate change
> > http://news.sciencemag.org/chemistry/2015/08/sucking-carbon-sky-may-not-slow-climate-change
> 
> > CDR technologies belong to a class of climate change-fighting
> > techniques known as geoengineering. They include enhancing forests to
> > make them absorb more CO2, building chemical plants that filter the
> > air directly, and burning biofuels and storing the emitted carbon
> > dioxide underground. These may sound far-fetched, but the
> > Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded last year that
> > reaching a key emissions goal--roughly equivalent to limiting warming
> > to 2°C by 2100--would rely on the deployment of one or several CDR
> > technologies. Deploying them could cost more than a trillion dollars,
> > one expert estimates.
> >
> > The new study puts the concept of CDR to the test--without getting
> > into the specifics of which technology to use. The authors used
> > computer simulations to figure out what would happen if engineers
> > removed a whopping 5 gigatons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
> > each year. Achieving that goal, equivalent to removing roughly half
> > the amount of CO2 that is now emitted from manmade sources, would
> > require a gargantuan global effort. (To visualize the scale, imagine
> > 5000 new facilities each roughly the size of a sports stadium.)
> >
> > Yet the scientists found the environmental benefits of such a massive
> > technological campaign were surprisingly small, especially in terms
> > of protecting the ocean from the impacts of climate change. One key
> > impact of rising CO2 levels is seen in the pH of ocean waters--the
> > global sea surface has been acidified by roughly 0.1 units and
> > impacts on marine shells are beginning to show. But the experiment
> > demonstrated that the CDR campaign had only limited effect to reverse
> > that trend: Without the CDR the surface pH was reduced by 0.75 units
> > by 2200; with CDR the acidification was reduced 0.7 units, the team
> > reports online today in Nature Climate Change.
> 
> 
> 
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> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Sam We must put LA in the shaded.It can be done easily. TreBert

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