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| Started by | Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> |
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| First post | 2015-11-11 19:50 -0800 |
| Last post | 2015-11-25 22:57 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 180 — 15 participants |
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The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-11 19:50 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 04:22 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 10:05 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 19:10 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-13 05:52 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-13 19:13 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-13 19:38 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-14 01:27 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 15:55 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-14 21:28 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-15 10:30 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-15 20:23 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-16 05:42 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-16 19:29 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 05:08 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-17 20:22 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:16 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-13 16:11 -0600
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 08:43 -0600
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-12 11:06 -0600
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 19:01 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-14 15:52 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-15 01:03 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-18 02:09 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-18 19:39 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-19 00:27 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-19 05:40 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-19 07:50 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-19 18:37 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 11:47 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. "Sam Gordon" <invalid@examplll.com> - 2015-11-19 11:58 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 12:21 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-19 23:35 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-20 07:22 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-20 09:20 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-20 17:47 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-20 15:31 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-20 21:56 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-21 08:18 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 19:02 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-22 09:17 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-22 19:07 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-23 08:11 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-23 18:24 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-24 21:37 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 19:08 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 23:33 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-25 13:44 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 06:25 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-26 15:19 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-26 08:51 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-27 14:06 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-27 20:10 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-15 10:00 -0600
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 10:21 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-15 14:18 -0600
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 20:08 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-25 19:12 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-26 15:19 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-24 22:35 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-25 06:08 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-21 14:37 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 18:49 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-22 14:50 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-22 19:17 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-23 14:13 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-23 18:32 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-24 13:20 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-24 19:38 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-25 13:43 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-25 19:25 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-22 11:03 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-22 19:19 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 11:46 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-22 20:27 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 12:58 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-22 21:04 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-22 19:05 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-23 00:59 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 18:46 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-23 06:07 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 04:00 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-23 18:37 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 20:17 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-19 16:07 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-20 00:37 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-22 16:28 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-23 01:10 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-25 14:13 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-25 23:37 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-29 16:17 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-30 01:22 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-03 15:12 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-04 00:15 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-03 23:34 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-04 05:14 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-05 17:01 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-06 02:37 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-06 00:55 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-12-06 15:07 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-06 10:15 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-06 18:51 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-07 03:23 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-12-07 13:46 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-07 19:20 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-07 15:53 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-06 18:44 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-12-14 15:12 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 16:56 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-14 13:13 -0600
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 19:32 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 20:47 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 21:36 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 22:33 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 00:09 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-14 21:57 -0600
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 05:00 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Jürgen Großenbuch <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 15:02 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 19:13 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-12-15 13:06 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 19:31 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-14 22:11 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 03:44 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-14 23:04 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 05:01 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-15 06:36 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-12 02:43 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-12 19:18 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-13 00:48 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-13 06:08 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-13 03:21 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-13 19:13 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-13 14:37 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-13 20:36 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-13 15:48 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-13 21:06 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-13 19:58 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 01:32 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-13 20:54 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 03:15 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-13 19:55 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 01:52 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-13 22:38 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 06:07 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-14 22:38 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 05:04 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-15 06:50 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-12-15 13:06 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-15 08:53 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 19:52 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 19:48 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-15 22:12 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-16 03:44 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-13 20:15 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-13 20:20 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-13 20:37 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-13 21:06 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-15 02:24 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 20:03 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-26 15:18 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-27 01:32 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-27 14:06 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-12 15:17 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 23:34 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-13 05:57 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-13 19:23 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-13 19:53 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-11-19 19:26 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-11-19 19:40 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-11-20 15:57 -0800
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 00:30 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-20 21:53 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 07:15 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-21 13:46 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 19:57 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-21 15:50 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 22:44 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-21 22:30 -0500
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-22 05:14 +0000
Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-11-25 22:57 -0800
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 06:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2svfic-pqh.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
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Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: > > FreeBASIC is not a "new" BASIC language. You don't need to learn much > new if you are familiar with any Microsoft-BASIC variant. Sounds like your dream language. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 14:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM0005250E0C7FBCC9@aca403cc.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #534259 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>> >>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>> Are you laughing yet? >>> >>> Puerile; no. >>> >>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >> >> Spoil-sport! > > I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the > users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. /BAH
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 18:49 +0000 |
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jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>> >>>> Puerile; no. >>>> >>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>> >>> Spoil-sport! >> >> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. > > Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and > maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped > by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug > which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. > > /BAH I can understand that. The majority of things I have done require IPC and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking in both areas. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-22 14:50 +0000 |
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jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>> >>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>> >>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>> >>>> Spoil-sport! >>> >>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >> >> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >> >> /BAH > > I can understand that. The majority of things I have done require IPC > and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking > in both areas. Yea. Their focus is on distribution, not delivery of computing services so when there is a trade-off to be decided, the distribution option will take precedence over a system computing service. The funcionality we had in our OSes, will begin to appear in today's computing services. The computing biz is extremely cyclic. /BAH
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-22 19:17 +0000 |
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jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>>> >>>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>>> >>>>> Spoil-sport! >>>> >>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >>> >>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >>> >>> /BAH >> >> I can understand that. The majority of things I have done require IPC >> and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking >> in both areas. > > Yea. Their focus is on distribution, not delivery of computing services > so when there is a trade-off to be decided, the distribution option will > take precedence over a system computing service. > > The funcionality we had in our OSes, will begin to appear in today's > computing services. The computing biz is extremely cyclic. > > /BAH Well, as consumer computers don't really have a need for things that are common in the industrial arena, there isn't much motivation for Apple or Microsoft to provide them. One of the most disastrous projects I was ever involved with was the time a manager mandated we use an Apple II instead of the PDP-11's we normally used because the Apple was so inexpensive by comparison. By the time it was done, so much engineering effort was put into the project it would have paid for several PDP-11's, plus the final product was pathetic compared to the usual PDP-11 solution. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 14:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM00052535FE3B99B2@aca41148.ipt.aol.com> |
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jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>>>> >>>>>> Spoil-sport! >>>>> >>>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >>>> >>>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >>>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >>>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >>>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >>>> >>>> /BAH >>> >>> I can understand that. The majority of things I have done require IPC >>> and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking >>> in both areas. >> >> Yea. Their focus is on distribution, not delivery of computing services >> so when there is a trade-off to be decided, the distribution option will >> take precedence over a system computing service. >> >> The funcionality we had in our OSes, will begin to appear in today's >> computing services. The computing biz is extremely cyclic. >> >> /BAH > > Well, as consumer computers don't really have a need for things that are > common in the industrial arena, there isn't much motivation for Apple > or Microsoft to provide them. > > One of the most disastrous projects I was ever involved with was the > time a manager mandated we use an Apple II instead of the PDP-11's > we normally used because the Apple was so inexpensive by comparison. He only compared the price of the hardware of one system with the other?!!!!! In my job, I would have stopped the nonsense by talking to his manager or that guy's manager or that guy's manager... > > By the time it was done, so much engineering effort was put into the > project it would have paid for several PDP-11's, plus the final > product was pathetic compared to the usual PDP-11 solution. <grin> And there wasn't any DDT or TECO....or blinkenlights. /BAH
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 18:32 +0000 |
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jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Spoil-sport! >>>>>> >>>>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>>>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >>>>> >>>>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >>>>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >>>>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >>>>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >>>>> >>>>> /BAH >>>> >>>> I can understand that. The majority of things I have done require IPC >>>> and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking >>>> in both areas. >>> >>> Yea. Their focus is on distribution, not delivery of computing services >>> so when there is a trade-off to be decided, the distribution option will >>> take precedence over a system computing service. >>> >>> The funcionality we had in our OSes, will begin to appear in today's >>> computing services. The computing biz is extremely cyclic. >>> >>> /BAH >> >> Well, as consumer computers don't really have a need for things that are >> common in the industrial arena, there isn't much motivation for Apple >> or Microsoft to provide them. >> >> One of the most disastrous projects I was ever involved with was the >> time a manager mandated we use an Apple II instead of the PDP-11's >> we normally used because the Apple was so inexpensive by comparison. > > He only compared the price of the hardware of one system with the other?!!!!! > In my job, I would have stopped the nonsense by talking to his manager or > that guy's manager or that guy's manager... Yep, that is exactly what he did and would not listen to anything else. Unfortunately, there was no one else above him. In his defense, the concept of controlling "stuff" with a computer was basically uncharted territory at the time and he did learn his lesson from the debacle. >> By the time it was done, so much engineering effort was put into the >> project it would have paid for several PDP-11's, plus the final >> product was pathetic compared to the usual PDP-11 solution. > > <grin> And there wasn't any DDT or TECO....or blinkenlights. > > /BAH -- Jim Pennino
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 13:20 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #534852 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Spoil-sport! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>>>>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >>>>>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >>>>>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >>>>>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >>>>>> >>>>>> /BAH >>>>> >>>>> I can understand that. The majority of things I have done require IPC >>>>> and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking >>>>> in both areas. >>>> >>>> Yea. Their focus is on distribution, not delivery of computing services >>>> so when there is a trade-off to be decided, the distribution option will >>>> take precedence over a system computing service. >>>> >>>> The funcionality we had in our OSes, will begin to appear in today's >>>> computing services. The computing biz is extremely cyclic. >>>> >>>> /BAH >>> >>> Well, as consumer computers don't really have a need for things that are >>> common in the industrial arena, there isn't much motivation for Apple >>> or Microsoft to provide them. >>> >>> One of the most disastrous projects I was ever involved with was the >>> time a manager mandated we use an Apple II instead of the PDP-11's >>> we normally used because the Apple was so inexpensive by comparison. >> >> He only compared the price of the hardware of one system with the other?!!!!! >> In my job, I would have stopped the nonsense by talking to his manager or >> that guy's manager or that guy's manager... > > Yep, that is exactly what he did and would not listen to anything else. > > Unfortunately, there was no one else above him. Ah, small group. I hadn't thought about this non-benefit with a small group. > > In his defense, the concept of controlling "stuff" with a computer was > basically uncharted territory at the time and he did learn his lesson > from the debacle. At least he was capable of learning. How much calender time did it take? A PDP-8 would have been wonderful. ;-) /BAH
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 19:38 +0000 |
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jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Spoil-sport! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>>>>>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >>>>>>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >>>>>>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >>>>>>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /BAH >>>>>> >>>>>> I can understand that. The majority of things I have done require IPC >>>>>> and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking >>>>>> in both areas. >>>>> >>>>> Yea. Their focus is on distribution, not delivery of computing services >>>>> so when there is a trade-off to be decided, the distribution option will >>>>> take precedence over a system computing service. >>>>> >>>>> The funcionality we had in our OSes, will begin to appear in today's >>>>> computing services. The computing biz is extremely cyclic. >>>>> >>>>> /BAH >>>> >>>> Well, as consumer computers don't really have a need for things that are >>>> common in the industrial arena, there isn't much motivation for Apple >>>> or Microsoft to provide them. >>>> >>>> One of the most disastrous projects I was ever involved with was the >>>> time a manager mandated we use an Apple II instead of the PDP-11's >>>> we normally used because the Apple was so inexpensive by comparison. >>> >>> He only compared the price of the hardware of one system with the > other?!!!!! >>> In my job, I would have stopped the nonsense by talking to his manager or >>> that guy's manager or that guy's manager... >> >> Yep, that is exactly what he did and would not listen to anything else. >> >> Unfortunately, there was no one else above him. > > Ah, small group. I hadn't thought about this non-benefit with a small > group. > >> >> In his defense, the concept of controlling "stuff" with a computer was >> basically uncharted territory at the time and he did learn his lesson >> from the debacle. > > At least he was capable of learning. How much calender time did it > take? Other than a very long time for what the project was, I don't remember. > A PDP-8 would have been wonderful. ;-) We were just starting out in the make a computer control "things" world but had already settled on PDP-11 as the platform of choice and already had a rather large library of tested helper code in Fortran for the off the shelf I/O interface boards. Of course all that was useless for an Apple II. Things like A/D and D/A boards had to be designed from scratch as well as the software to use them. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 13:43 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #535134 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Spoil-sport! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>>>>>>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >>>>>>>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >>>>>>>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >>>>>>>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /BAH >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can understand that. The majority of things I have done require IPC >>>>>>> and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking >>>>>>> in both areas. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yea. Their focus is on distribution, not delivery of computing services >>>>>> so when there is a trade-off to be decided, the distribution option will >>>>>> take precedence over a system computing service. >>>>>> >>>>>> The funcionality we had in our OSes, will begin to appear in today's >>>>>> computing services. The computing biz is extremely cyclic. >>>>>> >>>>>> /BAH >>>>> >>>>> Well, as consumer computers don't really have a need for things that are >>>>> common in the industrial arena, there isn't much motivation for Apple >>>>> or Microsoft to provide them. >>>>> >>>>> One of the most disastrous projects I was ever involved with was the >>>>> time a manager mandated we use an Apple II instead of the PDP-11's >>>>> we normally used because the Apple was so inexpensive by comparison. >>>> >>>> He only compared the price of the hardware of one system with the >> other?!!!!! >>>> In my job, I would have stopped the nonsense by talking to his manager or >>>> that guy's manager or that guy's manager... >>> >>> Yep, that is exactly what he did and would not listen to anything else. >>> >>> Unfortunately, there was no one else above him. >> >> Ah, small group. I hadn't thought about this non-benefit with a small >> group. >> >>> >>> In his defense, the concept of controlling "stuff" with a computer was >>> basically uncharted territory at the time and he did learn his lesson >>> from the debacle. >> >> At least he was capable of learning. How much calender time did it >> take? > > Other than a very long time for what the project was, I don't remember. > >> A PDP-8 would have been wonderful. ;-) > > We were just starting out in the make a computer control "things" world > but had already settled on PDP-11 as the platform of choice and already > had a rather large library of tested helper code in Fortran for the > off the shelf I/O interface boards. > > Of course all that was useless for an Apple II. Things like A/D and > D/A boards had to be designed from scratch as well as the software > to use them. One of JMF's first jobs was to control a (IIRC) 2-ton bin on rails which was used to pick up parts in a warehouse. They tried and tried but couldn't control the speed, especially w.r.t. stopping. Computers were too big and comm lines were too slow. 10 years later they could have done it with the new hardware technology. /BAH
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 19:25 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #535329 |
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Spoil-sport! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>>>>>>>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >>>>>>>>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >>>>>>>>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >>>>>>>>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app > implementations. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /BAH >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can understand that. The majority of things I have done require IPC >>>>>>>> and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking >>>>>>>> in both areas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yea. Their focus is on distribution, not delivery of computing > services >>>>>>> so when there is a trade-off to be decided, the distribution option > will >>>>>>> take precedence over a system computing service. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The funcionality we had in our OSes, will begin to appear in today's >>>>>>> computing services. The computing biz is extremely cyclic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /BAH >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, as consumer computers don't really have a need for things that are >>>>>> common in the industrial arena, there isn't much motivation for Apple >>>>>> or Microsoft to provide them. >>>>>> >>>>>> One of the most disastrous projects I was ever involved with was the >>>>>> time a manager mandated we use an Apple II instead of the PDP-11's >>>>>> we normally used because the Apple was so inexpensive by comparison. >>>>> >>>>> He only compared the price of the hardware of one system with the >>> other?!!!!! >>>>> In my job, I would have stopped the nonsense by talking to his manager or >>>>> that guy's manager or that guy's manager... >>>> >>>> Yep, that is exactly what he did and would not listen to anything else. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, there was no one else above him. >>> >>> Ah, small group. I hadn't thought about this non-benefit with a small >>> group. >>> >>>> >>>> In his defense, the concept of controlling "stuff" with a computer was >>>> basically uncharted territory at the time and he did learn his lesson >>>> from the debacle. >>> >>> At least he was capable of learning. How much calender time did it >>> take? >> >> Other than a very long time for what the project was, I don't remember. >> >>> A PDP-8 would have been wonderful. ;-) >> >> We were just starting out in the make a computer control "things" world >> but had already settled on PDP-11 as the platform of choice and already >> had a rather large library of tested helper code in Fortran for the >> off the shelf I/O interface boards. >> >> Of course all that was useless for an Apple II. Things like A/D and >> D/A boards had to be designed from scratch as well as the software >> to use them. > > One of JMF's first jobs was to control a (IIRC) 2-ton bin on rails which > was used to pick up parts in a warehouse. They tried and tried > but couldn't control the speed, especially w.r.t. stopping. > Computers were too big and comm lines were too slow. 10 years > later they could have done it with the new hardware technology. > > /BAH Yep, the MicroPDP-11 series in a 5 inch box instead of a 5 foot rack revolutionized process control. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-22 11:03 -0500 |
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:49:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>> >>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>> >>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>> >>>> Spoil-sport! >>> >>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >> >> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >> >> /BAH > >I can understand that. So it isn't puerile, childish, or bigoted if spoken by a priest from an IT department? >The majority of things I have done require IPC >and often threads to work and in my opinion Microsoft is still lacking >in both areas.
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| Date | 2015-11-22 19:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52h9ic-b1h.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #534562 |
Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:49:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >>>>>> >>>>>> Puerile; no. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >>>>> >>>>> Spoil-sport! >>>> >>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >>> >>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >>> >>> /BAH >> >>I can understand that. > > So it isn't puerile, childish, or bigoted if spoken by a priest from > an IT department? I said I could understand it, period. Your use of the phrase 'priest from an IT department' goes a long way in showing what a bigot you are. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-22 11:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <47981eb8-ca28-4587-bfa6-4458468b890c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534589 |
On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:49:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > > >>jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: > >>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: > >>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 > >>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Puerile; no. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. > >>>>> > >>>>> Spoil-sport! > >>>> > >>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the > >>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. > >>> > >>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and > >>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped > >>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug > >>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. > >>> > >>> /BAH > >> > >>I can understand that. > > > > So it isn't puerile, childish, or bigoted if spoken by a priest from > > an IT department? > > I said I could understand it, period. > > Your use of the phrase 'priest from an IT department' goes a long way > in showing what a bigot you are. Wake up Jim, that's a perfect phrase, accurate in any tone. > -- > Jim Pennino -- Mahipal 'Pronounced WhoCares?!'
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-22 20:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s2l9ic-djh.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #534597 |
Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: >> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:49:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> > >> >>jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >> >>>>> On 11/20/2015 12:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>>>>> dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 2:22 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I don't know who 'M$' is; is this an attempt to be funny? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M%24 >> >>>>>>> Are you laughing yet? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Puerile; no. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I have seen Microsloth from other puerile posters. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Spoil-sport! >> >>>> >> >>>> I've always thought things like that were childish and branded the >> >>>> users of such as bigots; yes there are software bigots. >> >>> >> >>> Sometimes. Other times, there are software developers and >> >>> maintainers who have to make something work well and are stopped >> >>> by asspects (correct spelling of a word we used to describe a bug >> >>> which was a feature of the software) of MS' OS and app implementations. >> >>> >> >>> /BAH >> >> >> >>I can understand that. >> > >> > So it isn't puerile, childish, or bigoted if spoken by a priest from >> > an IT department? >> >> I said I could understand it, period. >> >> Your use of the phrase 'priest from an IT department' goes a long way >> in showing what a bigot you are. > > Wake up Jim, that's a perfect phrase, accurate in any tone. It is sour grapes and nothing more. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-22 12:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <a1dbb1f0-1ba9-4dde-88a9-55983eb38105@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534603 |
On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 3:31:05 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: > >> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:49:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: <trim /BAH /bah /BAH sheeple talk, Hi /BAH!> > >> > So it isn't puerile, childish, or bigoted if spoken by a priest from > >> > an IT department? > >> > >> I said I could understand it, period. > >> > >> Your use of the phrase 'priest from an IT department' goes a long way > >> in showing what a bigot you are. > > > > Wake up Jim, that's a perfect phrase, accurate in any tone. > > It is sour grapes and nothing more. No it's not, when was the last time you interviewed for an IT job? Look Jim, I know you well, I have read you for years, so be mean if you must. But, Wally is right, in 128, 64, 32, 16, 8, or 2 bits mode. > -- > Jim Pennino -- Mahipal
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| Date | 2015-11-22 21:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <27n9ic-9qh.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #534608 |
Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 3:31:05 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >> Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:49:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > <trim /BAH /bah /BAH sheeple talk, Hi /BAH!> > >> >> > So it isn't puerile, childish, or bigoted if spoken by a priest from >> >> > an IT department? >> >> >> >> I said I could understand it, period. >> >> >> >> Your use of the phrase 'priest from an IT department' goes a long way >> >> in showing what a bigot you are. >> > >> > Wake up Jim, that's a perfect phrase, accurate in any tone. >> >> It is sour grapes and nothing more. > > No it's not, when was the last time you interviewed for an IT job? About 20 years ago just before I started my own IT company when I tired of head hunters taking a big cut. Unless you mean when was the last time I interviewed someone. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-22 19:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <41m45bpiqvtc0pit8j2fv30rak0kirji0t@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #534610 |
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:04:02 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 3:31:05 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >> Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: >>> >> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:49:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >> <trim /BAH /bah /BAH sheeple talk, Hi /BAH!> >> >>> >> > So it isn't puerile, childish, or bigoted if spoken by a priest from >>> >> > an IT department? >>> >> >>> >> I said I could understand it, period. >>> >> >>> >> Your use of the phrase 'priest from an IT department' goes a long way >>> >> in showing what a bigot you are. >>> > >>> > Wake up Jim, that's a perfect phrase, accurate in any tone. >>> >>> It is sour grapes and nothing more. >> >> No it's not, when was the last time you interviewed for an IT job? > >About 20 years ago just before I started my own IT company when I tired >of head hunters taking a big cut. > >Unless you mean when was the last time I interviewed someone. When was the last time IT policies beyond your control prevented you from doing your job?
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 00:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <j05aic-a4j.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #534648 |
Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:04:02 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 3:31:05 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> >> Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: >>>> >> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:49:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>> <trim /BAH /bah /BAH sheeple talk, Hi /BAH!> >>> >>>> >> > So it isn't puerile, childish, or bigoted if spoken by a priest from >>>> >> > an IT department? >>>> >> >>>> >> I said I could understand it, period. >>>> >> >>>> >> Your use of the phrase 'priest from an IT department' goes a long way >>>> >> in showing what a bigot you are. >>>> > >>>> > Wake up Jim, that's a perfect phrase, accurate in any tone. >>>> >>>> It is sour grapes and nothing more. >>> >>> No it's not, when was the last time you interviewed for an IT job? >> >>About 20 years ago just before I started my own IT company when I tired >>of head hunters taking a big cut. >> >>Unless you mean when was the last time I interviewed someone. > > When was the last time IT policies beyond your control prevented you > from doing your job? Never. The concept is ridiculous and any company that acted like that would soon be out of business. I have seen lots of people run afoul with IT for playing games, looking at porn, running side businesses, generally wasting time, and infecting company machines with software brought from home. About 35 years ago I did get a little tired of having to have the corporate IT department, which at the time was purely business computing on mainframes, approve purchase orders for engineering computers (which was a new concept at the time), so I made a presentation to corporate management to make a distinction between the two with engineering managers having authority over engineering purchases, which was promptly approved. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-22 18:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <a8639072-94f0-4347-9728-df948fc81523@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534610 |
On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 3:31:05 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> >> Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote: > >> >> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:49:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > > > <trim /BAH /bah /BAH sheeple talk, Hi /BAH!> > > > >> >> > So it isn't puerile, childish, or bigoted if spoken by a priest from > >> >> > an IT department? > >> >> > >> >> I said I could understand it, period. > >> >> > >> >> Your use of the phrase 'priest from an IT department' goes a long way > >> >> in showing what a bigot you are. > >> > > >> > Wake up Jim, that's a perfect phrase, accurate in any tone. > >> > >> It is sour grapes and nothing more. > > > > No it's not, when was the last time you interviewed for an IT job? > > About 20 years ago just before I started my own IT company when I tired > of head hunters taking a big cut. You did the wise step Jim. I wish I had. I am doing it now. > Unless you mean when was the last time I interviewed someone. Fine, whom did you end up hiring? Got linkedin links for them? > -- > Jim Pennino -- Mahipal
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