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| Started by | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-09-19 09:34 -0500 |
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Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 09:34 -0500
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 18:04 +0000
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 12:59 -0700
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 20:18 +0000
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 07:48 -0500
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 17:12 +0000
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 13:11 -0500
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 18:54 +0000
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 13:24 -0700
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 20:48 +0000
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 15:55 -0700
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-25 23:25 +0000
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines Bret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com> - 2015-09-25 21:39 -0700
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 07:19 -0700
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-26 17:37 +0000
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 09:51 -0700
Re: Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 17:49 -0500
| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 09:34 -0500 |
| Subject | Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines |
| Message-ID | <DZGdnXi5bZ7172DInZ2dnUU7-SOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines > http://techxplore.com/news/2014-05-dutch-company-new-generation-urban-turbines.html#nRlv > Could a new generation of wind turbines on residential rooftops be on > the way? Saying no might be easy when imagining blade noise, if > nothing else. The idea of wind turbines for generating energy in > households may draw several arguments against the idea. One may argue > the yield from current-generation turbines would be too low, along > with having to put up with the noisy blades. A group based in > Rotterdam which describes itself as an "R&D" company "built on the > re-invented formulas, drawings and principles of Archimedes" is out > to change minds. On Tuesday, the company, also called The Archimedes, > unveiled its Liam F1 Urban Wind Turbine. The Liam, according to the > company, ushers in a "totally new generation of wind turbines for > domestic use." > The company said that the turbine easily fits on the roof of a house > just as would solar panels. The Liam F1 generates an average of 1,500 > kilowatt-hour of energy at a wind-speed of 5m/s, which resembles half > of the power consumption of a common household. In combination with > solar-panels on the roof, a household could be totally > self-supporting for its own energy needs. The Archimedes CEO Richard > Ruijtenbeek said, "when there is wind you use the energy produced by > the wind turbine; when the sun is shining you use the solar cells to > produce the energy." > Because of its design, the Liam addresses limitations of efficiency > and noise. The inventor, Marinus Mieremet, company CTO, created a > type of turbine that is virtually soundless. The Liam is based on > "the laws of nature and the theoretics of the Greek mathematician > Archimedes." The form of the Liam is a Nautilus shell. The Liam > automatically like a pennant goes for the optimal position of the > wind, pointing into the wind for maximum yield. According to Mieremet > the yield is 80 percent of the maximum that is theoretically > feasible. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 18:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ulk0dc-5jh.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #522005 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines While lawyers salivate over the coming noise nuisance suits. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 12:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <db81d9f1-d5b9-484e-addf-b78cd0f31a8b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #522058 |
You don't believe "virtually noiseless"? Suing the jet planes? Suing the contractors? Suing the refrigerator manufacturer? Don't worry, Jim- once you go deaf, you'll be happy
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 20:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qgs0dc-gdi.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #522076 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > You don't believe "virtually noiseless"? > Suing the jet planes? > Suing the contractors? > Suing the refrigerator manufacturer? > Don't worry, Jim- once you go deaf, > you'll be happy Yet another clueless naif that has never tried to get a night's sleep anywhere within miles of a wind generator. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 07:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <WrydnRsYi5OLNmPInZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #522089 |
On 9/19/15 3:18 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Yet another clueless naif that has never tried to get a night's sleep > anywhere within miles of a wind generator. Don't be so stoooopid, jimp. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 17:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <7163dc-p4q.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #522205 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/19/15 3:18 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> Yet another clueless naif that has never tried to get a night's sleep >> anywhere within miles of a wind generator. > > Don't be so stoooopid, jimp. Shove it up your spamming ass, shit head. I HAVE been around numerous wind generators and they are ALL noisy, especially at night, you spamming piece of shit. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 13:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <j8GdnTbhx75Ta2PInZ2dnUU7-f2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #522235 |
On 9/20/15 12:12 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > I HAVE been around numerous wind generators and they are ALL noisy, > especially at night, you spamming piece of shit. Hmmm -- more noisy at night? You got data? Hey jimp, do you know how to make a posting without calling names? Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines > http://techxplore.com/news/2014-05-dutch-company-new-generation-urban-turbines.html > Could a new generation of wind turbines on residential rooftops be on > the way? Saying no might be easy when imagining blade noise, if > nothing else. The idea of wind turbines for generating energy in > households may draw several arguments against the idea. One may argue > the yield from current-generation turbines would be too low, along > with having to put up with the noisy blades. A group based in > Rotterdam which describes itself as an "R&D" company "built on the > re-invented formulas, drawings and principles of Archimedes" is out > to change minds. On Tuesday, the company, also called The Archimedes, > unveiled its Liam F1 Urban Wind Turbine. The Liam, according to the > company, ushers in a "totally new generation of wind turbines for > domestic use." > The company said that the turbine easily fits on the roof of a house > just as would solar panels. The Liam F1 generates an average of 1,500 > kilowatt-hour of energy at a wind-speed of 5m/s, which resembles half > of the power consumption of a common household. In combination with > solar-panels on the roof, a household could be totally > self-supporting for its own energy needs. The Archimedes CEO Richard > Ruijtenbeek said, "when there is wind you use the energy produced by > the wind turbine; when the sun is shining you use the solar cells to > produce the energy." > Because of its design, the Liam addresses limitations of efficiency > and noise. The inventor, Marinus Mieremet, company CTO, created a > type of turbine that is virtually soundless. The Liam is based on > "the laws of nature and the theoretics of the Greek mathematician > Archimedes." The form of the Liam is a Nautilus shell. The Liam > automatically like a pennant goes for the optimal position of the > wind, pointing into the wind for maximum yield. According to Mieremet > the yield is 80 percent of the maximum that is theoretically > feasible. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 18:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uvb3dc-gnq.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #522243 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/20/15 12:12 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> I HAVE been around numerous wind generators and they are ALL noisy, >> especially at night, you spamming piece of shit. > > Hmmm -- more noisy at night? You got data? No, you fucking idiot, the noise is more annoying at night when most everything else is quite, you spamming piece of shit. > Hey jimp, do you know how to make a posting without calling names? I just call a spade a spade, or in your case, a worthless, spamming, cut and paste, piece of shit, a worthless, spamming, cut and paste, piece of shit. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 13:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8629eeb9-3912-4809-9395-1f174384fd26@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #522254 |
At night I used to hear the street lights going through their cycle. Now I'm at the lake. No street lights. But the coyotes start yipping and squealing when it gets dark. I lived on a main thoroughfare once- the big trucks gearing down woke me up at first, but I didn't hear them for long. If the main slam against wind power is noise, we can live with it.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 20:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eli3dc-lcr.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #522275 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > At night I used to hear the street lights > going through their cycle. > > Now I'm at the lake. No street lights. > But the coyotes start yipping and > squealing when it gets dark. > > I lived on a main thoroughfare once- the > big trucks gearing down woke me up > at first, but I didn't hear them for long. > > If the main slam against wind power is > noise, we can live with it. You might, I won't. There is also a big differance between intermittant noise and a constant drone. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-25 15:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ee2d540b-5aa0-4e6b-80fe-0fdcae39c3a0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #522284 |
On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > > At night I used to hear the street lights > > going through their cycle. > > > > Now I'm at the lake. No street lights. > > But the coyotes start yipping and > > squealing when it gets dark. > > > > I lived on a main thoroughfare once- the > > big trucks gearing down woke me up > > at first, but I didn't hear them for long. > > > > If the main slam against wind power is > > noise, we can live with it. > > You might, I won't. > > There is also a big differance between intermittant noise and a constant > drone. > > > -- > Jim Pennino Sleeping next to one that snores is as worse as it can get to fall asleep.TreBert
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-25 23:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <co1hdc-qpd.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #523197 |
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >> > At night I used to hear the street lights >> > going through their cycle. >> > >> > Now I'm at the lake. No street lights. >> > But the coyotes start yipping and >> > squealing when it gets dark. >> > >> > I lived on a main thoroughfare once- the >> > big trucks gearing down woke me up >> > at first, but I didn't hear them for long. >> > >> > If the main slam against wind power is >> > noise, we can live with it. >> >> You might, I won't. >> >> There is also a big differance between intermittant noise and a constant >> drone. >> >> >> -- >> Jim Pennino > > Sleeping next to one that snores is as worse as it can get to fall asleep.TreBert A trip to the doctor to find the cause provides a cure for that these days. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Bret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-25 21:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bc15b262-7052-4f39-abe3-cb0bb6e3d3a1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #522235 |
> >> Yet another clueless naif that has never tried to get a night's sleep > >> anywhere within miles of a wind generator. > > > > Don't be so stoooopid, jimp. > > Shove it up your spamming ass, shit head. > > I HAVE been around numerous wind generators and they are ALL noisy, > especially at night, It's a beautiful sound, much better than waves on the beach!
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-26 07:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3e248d21-0182-47b4-a09f-5a5cca83d6c9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #523235 |
Wind is noisy. Waves are noisy. Crickets are noisy. Traffic is noisy. Birds are noisy. Coyotes are noisy. Furnaces are noisy. Air conditioners are noisy. Fridges are noisy. How old are you, Jim? You sound like an irascible old man
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-26 17:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eo1jdc-dhk.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #523262 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Wind is noisy. > Waves are noisy. > Crickets are noisy. > Traffic is noisy. > Birds are noisy. > Coyotes are noisy. > Furnaces are noisy. > Air conditioners are noisy. > Fridges are noisy. > > How old are you, Jim? > You sound like an irascible old man Why are you addressing Jim when replying to a post from someone named Bret? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 09:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <db6071c3-2e0c-4c8e-9f80-eac6bd465a8d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #522058 |
On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 11:16:05 AM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines > > While lawyers salivate over the coming noise nuisance suits. > > > -- > Jim Pennino In inventing a better sail I came up with a stronger wind force to turn blades.Its very simple method TreBert
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| From | Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 17:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <s7KdnWIrlPQTe2DInZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #522005 |
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 09:34:16 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: > Dutch company launches new-generation urban wind turbines >> http://techxplore.com/news/2014-05-dutch-company-new-generation-urban- turbines.html#nRlv > <snip> >> .... The Liam F1 generates an average of 1,500 kilowatt-hour of energy >> at a wind-speed of 5m/s.... Can't find anywhere where it says how long it takes to generate 1,500 KWH (5.4 MJ) of energy.
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