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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-10-05 13:25 -0500 |
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1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 19:50 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 20:43 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:16 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:22 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 22:47 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-10-01 13:48 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 15:27 +0100
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:53 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 21:53 +0100
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:06 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 13:31 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-01 15:03 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-02 14:54 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-02 00:18 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 09:31 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:57 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 08:11 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 18:03 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:47 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:10 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 21:15 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:21 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:12 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 17:28 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 22:51 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:26 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 05:32 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 20:25 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-09 03:14 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 13:59 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-09 00:44 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 22:30 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:20 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:11 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:27 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:26 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:12 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:16 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:28 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-02 02:18 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:47 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 19:44 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:50 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:29 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:15 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:47 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 14:40 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:24 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 20:43 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:48 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-03 11:57 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:37 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:17 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:30 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 20:17 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-02 20:48 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 21:10 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 05:14 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-03 14:45 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 00:12 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 12:32 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 18:41 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-04 14:59 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 19:44 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 16:04 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-04 21:45 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 22:12 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 16:13 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 00:06 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 19:39 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:06 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 23:07 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:24 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:28 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-05 19:55 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:29 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 08:01 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:29 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:39 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:19 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-06 18:02 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:30 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-08 00:38 +1100
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 21:51 +0000
Re: Gary R. Schmidt's sig. "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-28 00:11 +1100
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-10-07 00:33 +0200
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 11:28 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 12:00 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:46 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:05 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 20:29 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:40 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 20:58 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 19:24 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 04:54 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 22:11 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 23:10 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 09:15 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-07 10:12 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:15 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 14:29 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-08 01:32 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 14:33 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 21:55 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:43 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 22:55 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 16:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 01:47 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:25 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 05:34 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 14:34 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-09 00:25 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 18:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-09 03:15 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 23:46 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-09 12:07 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-09 14:41 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:44 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-10-09 11:25 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:43 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-09 14:44 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <throbbingsausage@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:45 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 20:53 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 20:39 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lifer <lifer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 00:53 +0200
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-10 01:16 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 18:52 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-14 19:12 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 23:27 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 21:37 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-14 22:09 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-09 17:52 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 17:31 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:14 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 18:48 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:53 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 12:04 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:15 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 14:37 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:14 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 17:30 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:45 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 22:22 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:25 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 13:43 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 14:34 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 16:46 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 15:55 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 12:19 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 18:39 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 20:39 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 23:00 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 08:27 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 09:08 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 11:21 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 14:45 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 19:57 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 18:51 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 09:07 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 11:24 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 14:45 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 20:01 -0500
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| Date | 2016-10-06 18:29 +0000 |
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In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: > On 2016-10-06, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >> The pressure outside of a closed, underwater container has nothing >> to do with the pressure inside. > > Mmm HM. Do go on. > >>> In a nutshell, he's utterly clueless about what's involved, but somehow, >>> he's become convinced he's qualified to even think about having an >>> opinion on how difficult a task it is. >> >> Just yet more arm waving and ad hominem. > > Nah. If someone's pointing out that you don't know what you're talking about, > dismissing it as "ad hominem" shows a basic failure of understanding of what > that objection actually MEANS. It also is a warning sign of Dunning-Kruger. Nah. Just saying someone is clueless without any substance is arm waving. -- Jim Pennino
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| Date | 2016-10-11 12:39 -0700 |
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thankYou, breezem@rs > action. And even less idea what kind of pressure such a habitat would > have to withstand. Never mind how much decompression time would be > needed for a "quick trip to the nearest store". > > In a nutshell, he's utterly clueless about what's involved, but somehow, > he's become convinced he's qualified to even think about having an > opinion on how difficult a task it is. > > -- > Brought to you by the letter K and the number .357 > Security provided by Horace S. & Dan W.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-06 04:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #599640 |
In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: > On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: >>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on the land portions >>> of Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which would >>> satisfy the latter. >> >> And that would be where and how many people would want to live there? > > You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no large native mammals, > if that helps you any. Information free arm waving. >>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air >>>>>> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other >>>>>> sundries? >>> >>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you in this context? >>> How about a "Torricellian vacuum"? >> >> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >> >> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you? > > ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how close to the surface > one needs to be to use one, please. Sheesh. Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots folds the tube. A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under water on Earth. >>> >>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's no AIR there, >>> dude"? >> >> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works? > > Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, to him? It's basic > physics... which he seems to not have ever encountered. Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a pushing pump? Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than 18,000 psi. What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? The pressure inside a closed container has zero correlation with the depth of the container if it is underwater. Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2016-10-06 18:02 +0000 |
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jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> schrieb: > What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? This is a trick question, right? I don't think I should have to learn ridiculous conversion factors to follow this conversation ;-)
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| Date | 2016-10-06 18:30 +0000 |
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In sci.physics Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> schrieb: > >> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? > > This is a trick question, right? > > I don't think I should have to learn ridiculous conversion factors > to follow this conversation ;-) It is as relevant as the 32 foot question. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 00:38 +1100 |
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On 7/10/2016 05:30, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> schrieb: >> >>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >> >> This is a trick question, right? >> >> I don't think I should have to learn ridiculous conversion factors >> to follow this conversation ;-) > > It is as relevant as the 32 foot question. > > If you are going to talk about living underwater, at least use comprehensible units. Ten metres is one atmosphere, dicking about with furlongs-per-hectare is bootless. And back last century I trained towards being a professional diver, your talking about "living under water" comes across as less clueful than a virgin talking about sex. Cheers, Gary B-) -- When men talk to their friends, they insult each other. They don't really mean it. When women talk to their friends, they compliment each other. They don't mean it either.
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| Date | 2016-10-07 21:51 +0000 |
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In sci.physics Gary R. Schmidt <grschmidt@acm.org> wrote: > On 7/10/2016 05:30, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> In sci.physics Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> schrieb: >>> >>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>> >>> This is a trick question, right? >>> >>> I don't think I should have to learn ridiculous conversion factors >>> to follow this conversation ;-) >> >> It is as relevant as the 32 foot question. >> >> > If you are going to talk about living underwater, at least use > comprehensible units. I am not the one to first post the irrelevant 32 foot crap. > Ten metres is one atmosphere, dicking about with furlongs-per-hectare is > bootless. > > And back last century I trained towards being a professional diver, your > talking about "living under water" comes across as less clueful than a > virgin talking about sex. There is a huge difference between diving and living underwater. There is no reason ever to get wet, learn how to swim, or to ever be subject to anything other than 1 atmosphere of pressure. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> |
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| Date | 2016-10-28 00:11 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Gary R. Schmidt's sig. |
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On 8/10/2016 07:52, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > Gary R. Schmidt's sig: >> When men talk to their friends, they insult each other. >> They don't really mean it. >> >> When women talk to their friends, they compliment each other. >> They don't mean it either. > > Who wrote that, you ( Gary ) ? I'm stealing it. > Not me - I think it went past in a Prattchet newsfroup, and I cheerfully lifted it, please continue the tradition! Cheers, Gary B-) -- When men talk to their friends, they insult each other. They don't really mean it. When women talk to their friends, they compliment each other. They don't mean it either.
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| From | Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 00:33 +0200 |
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On 06.10.16 20:02, Thomas Koenig wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> schrieb: > >> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? > > This is a trick question, right? > > I don't think I should have to learn ridiculous conversion factors > to follow this conversation ;-) > 12248.274 meter (do your own feet)
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| Date | 2016-10-06 11:28 -0700 |
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jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on the
>>>> land portions of Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my
>>>> first choice yet, which would satisfy the latter.
>>>
>>> And that would be where and how many people would want to live
>>> there?
>>
>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no large
>> native mammals, if that helps you any.
>
> Information free arm waving.
>
>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and
>>>>>>> an air pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for
>>>>>>> beer and other sundries?
>>>>
>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you in
>>>> this context? How about a "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>
>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>
>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you?
>>
>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how close
>> to the surface one needs to be to use one, please. Sheesh.
>
> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots folds
> the tube.
>
> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>
>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under
>>>>> water on Earth.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's no
>>>> AIR there, dude"?
>>>
>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works?
>>
>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, to
>> him? It's basic physics... which he seems to not have ever
>> encountered.
>
> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a
> pushing pump?
>
> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than 18,000
> psi.
>
> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>
> The pressure inside a closed container has zero correlation with
> the depth of the container if it is underwater.
>
> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>
There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by eveyrone -
I don't even know where to start. There are so many issues stemming
from the pressure at extreme depths under water that we don't spend
much time there. Those who do go down deep spend years in
specialized training, and boatloads of money in specialized
equipment. For a reason.
If it were easy, Discovery Channel would have a reality show with D
list actors in a dance contest at the bottom of the Marianas
Trench.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-06 12:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F69F36.1985@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #599723 |
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: > > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > > > In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: > >>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> > >>> wrote: > >>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: > >>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: > >>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on the > >>>> land portions of Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my > >>>> first choice yet, which would satisfy the latter. > >>> > >>> And that would be where and how many people would want to live > >>> there? > >> > >> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no large > >> native mammals, if that helps you any. > > > > Information free arm waving. > > > >>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and > >>>>>>> an air pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for > >>>>>>> beer and other sundries? > >>>> > >>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you in > >>>> this context? How about a "Torricellian vacuum"? > >>> > >>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. > >>> > >>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you? > >> > >> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how close > >> to the surface one needs to be to use one, please. Sheesh. > > > > Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots folds > > the tube. > > > > A fixed habitat does not have that issue. > > > >>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under > >>>>> water on Earth. > >>>> > >>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's no > >>>> AIR there, dude"? > >>> > >>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works? > >> > >> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, to > >> him? It's basic physics... which he seems to not have ever > >> encountered. > > > > Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a > > pushing pump? > > > > Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than 18,000 > > psi. > > > > What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? > > > > The pressure inside a closed container has zero correlation with > > the depth of the container if it is underwater. > > > > Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. > > > There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by eveyrone - > I don't even know where to start. It's not called "clulessness" Stupid, it's called 'incomplete information'. Like when your mother was raped by your father she had no idea she would give birth to a Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy. Otherwise she would have taken an umbrella and had an abortion!
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-06 18:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #599723 |
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: >>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on the >>>>> land portions of Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my >>>>> first choice yet, which would satisfy the latter. >>>> >>>> And that would be where and how many people would want to live >>>> there? >>> >>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no large >>> native mammals, if that helps you any. >> >> Information free arm waving. >> >>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and >>>>>>>> an air pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for >>>>>>>> beer and other sundries? >>>>> >>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you in >>>>> this context? How about a "Torricellian vacuum"? >>>> >>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >>>> >>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you? >>> >>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how close >>> to the surface one needs to be to use one, please. Sheesh. >> >> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots folds >> the tube. >> >> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >> >>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under >>>>>> water on Earth. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's no >>>>> AIR there, dude"? >>>> >>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works? >>> >>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, to >>> him? It's basic physics... which he seems to not have ever >>> encountered. >> >> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a >> pushing pump? >> >> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than 18,000 >> psi. >> >> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >> >> The pressure inside a closed container has zero correlation with >> the depth of the container if it is underwater. >> >> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >> > There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by eveyrone - > I don't even know where to start. There are so many issues stemming > from the pressure at extreme depths under water that we don't spend > much time there. Those who do go down deep spend years in > specialized training, and boatloads of money in specialized > equipment. For a reason. Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the original discussion. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-06 13:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA699851BFC89Ataustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #599733 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on
>>>>>> the land portions of Earth". And we haven't even gotten to
>>>>>> my first choice yet, which would satisfy the latter.
>>>>>
>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would want to
>>>>> live there?
>>>>
>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no large
>>>> native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>
>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface
>>>>>>>>> and an air pump for air and a boat to the nearest store
>>>>>>>>> for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you
>>>>>> in this context? How about a "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you?
>>>>
>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how close
>>>> to the surface one needs to be to use one, please. Sheesh.
>>>
>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots folds
>>> the tube.
>>>
>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>
>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under
>>>>>>> water on Earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's
>>>>>> no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, to
>>>> him? It's basic physics... which he seems to not have ever
>>>> encountered.
>>>
>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a
>>> pushing pump?
>>>
>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than
>>> 18,000 psi.
>>>
>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>
>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero correlation
>>> with the depth of the container if it is underwater.
>>>
>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>
>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by
>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are so many
>> issues stemming from the pressure at extreme depths under water
>> that we don't spend much time there. Those who do go down deep
>> spend years in specialized training, and boatloads of money in
>> specialized equipment. For a reason.
>
> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a couple of
> hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the original
> discussion.
>
The original discussion seems to be living at extreme depths. This
is more challenging than going to extreme depths for short periods.
As I said, cluelessness - by everyone.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-06 20:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #599747 |
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on >>>>>>> the land portions of Earth". And we haven't even gotten to >>>>>>> my first choice yet, which would satisfy the latter. >>>>>> >>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would want to >>>>>> live there? >>>>> >>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no large >>>>> native mammals, if that helps you any. >>>> >>>> Information free arm waving. >>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface >>>>>>>>>> and an air pump for air and a boat to the nearest store >>>>>>>>>> for beer and other sundries? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you >>>>>>> in this context? How about a "Torricellian vacuum"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you? >>>>> >>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how close >>>>> to the surface one needs to be to use one, please. Sheesh. >>>> >>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots folds >>>> the tube. >>>> >>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>> >>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under >>>>>>>> water on Earth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's >>>>>>> no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works? >>>>> >>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, to >>>>> him? It's basic physics... which he seems to not have ever >>>>> encountered. >>>> >>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a >>>> pushing pump? >>>> >>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than >>>> 18,000 psi. >>>> >>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>> >>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero correlation >>>> with the depth of the container if it is underwater. >>>> >>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>> >>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by >>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are so many >>> issues stemming from the pressure at extreme depths under water >>> that we don't spend much time there. Those who do go down deep >>> spend years in specialized training, and boatloads of money in >>> specialized equipment. For a reason. >> >> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a couple of >> hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the original >> discussion. >> > The original discussion seems to be living at extreme depths. This > is more challenging than going to extreme depths for short periods. Nope, just living underwater. > As I said, cluelessness - by everyone. Yet anonther case of people reading what they want to see and not what was written. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-06 13:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA6998B149ED28taustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #599752 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on
>>>>>>>> the land portions of Earth". And we haven't even gotten
>>>>>>>> to my first choice yet, which would satisfy the latter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would want to
>>>>>>> live there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no
>>>>>> large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>>>
>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface
>>>>>>>>>>> and an air pump for air and a boat to the nearest
>>>>>>>>>>> store for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you
>>>>>>>> in this context? How about a "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how
>>>>>> close to the surface one needs to be to use one, please.
>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots
>>>>> folds the tube.
>>>>>
>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under
>>>>>>>>> water on Earth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface
>>>>>>> works?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there,
>>>>>> to him? It's basic physics... which he seems to not have
>>>>>> ever encountered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a
>>>>> pushing pump?
>>>>>
>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than
>>>>> 18,000 psi.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>
>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero correlation
>>>>> with the depth of the container if it is underwater.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>
>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by
>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are so
>>>> many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme depths
>>>> under water that we don't spend much time there. Those who do
>>>> go down deep spend years in specialized training, and
>>>> boatloads of money in specialized equipment. For a reason.
>>>
>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a couple
>>> of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the original
>>> discussion.
>>>
>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme depths.
>> This is more challenging than going to extreme depths for short
>> periods.
>
> Nope, just living underwater.
Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a reason it
isn't done already.
>
>> As I said, cluelessness - by everyone.
>
> Yet anonther case of people reading what they want to see and
> not what was written.
>
That's what you're doing, yes.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-06 20:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #599753 |
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on >>>>>>>>> the land portions of Earth". And we haven't even gotten >>>>>>>>> to my first choice yet, which would satisfy the latter. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would want to >>>>>>>> live there? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no >>>>>>> large native mammals, if that helps you any. >>>>>> >>>>>> Information free arm waving. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface >>>>>>>>>>>> and an air pump for air and a boat to the nearest >>>>>>>>>>>> store for beer and other sundries? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you >>>>>>>>> in this context? How about a "Torricellian vacuum"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how >>>>>>> close to the surface one needs to be to use one, please. >>>>>>> Sheesh. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots >>>>>> folds the tube. >>>>>> >>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under >>>>>>>>>> water on Earth. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than >>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface >>>>>>>> works? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, >>>>>>> to him? It's basic physics... which he seems to not have >>>>>>> ever encountered. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a >>>>>> pushing pump? >>>>>> >>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than >>>>>> 18,000 psi. >>>>>> >>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>>>> >>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero correlation >>>>>> with the depth of the container if it is underwater. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>>>> >>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by >>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are so >>>>> many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme depths >>>>> under water that we don't spend much time there. Those who do >>>>> go down deep spend years in specialized training, and >>>>> boatloads of money in specialized equipment. For a reason. >>>> >>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a couple >>>> of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the original >>>> discussion. >>>> >>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme depths. >>> This is more challenging than going to extreme depths for short >>> periods. >> >> Nope, just living underwater. > > Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a reason it > isn't done already. Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming? >>> As I said, cluelessness - by everyone. >> >> Yet anonther case of people reading what they want to see and >> not what was written. >> > That's what you're doing, yes. Nope, I'm not the one spiralling off on topics like deep sea exploration. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-06 19:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA699C57FE3116taustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #599758 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not
>>>>>>>>>> "on the land portions of Earth". And we haven't even
>>>>>>>>>> gotten to my first choice yet, which would satisfy the
>>>>>>>>>> latter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would want
>>>>>>>>> to live there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no
>>>>>>>> large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nearest store for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to
>>>>>>>>>> you in this context? How about a "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how
>>>>>>>> close to the surface one needs to be to use one, please.
>>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots
>>>>>>> folds the tube.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being
>>>>>>>>>>> under water on Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface
>>>>>>>>> works?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there,
>>>>>>>> to him? It's basic physics... which he seems to not have
>>>>>>>> ever encountered.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a
>>>>>>> pushing pump?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than
>>>>>>> 18,000 psi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is
>>>>>>> underwater.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by
>>>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are so
>>>>>> many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme depths
>>>>>> under water that we don't spend much time there. Those who
>>>>>> do go down deep spend years in specialized training, and
>>>>>> boatloads of money in specialized equipment. For a reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a
>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the
>>>>> original discussion.
>>>>>
>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme depths.
>>>> This is more challenging than going to extreme depths for
>>>> short periods.
>>>
>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>
>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a reason
>> it isn't done already.
>
> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of the
> same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to North
> Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to
believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - various
endeavours in the area.
>
>>>> As I said, cluelessness - by everyone.
>>>
>>> Yet anonther case of people reading what they want to see and
>>> not what was written.
>>>
>> That's what you're doing, yes.
>
> Nope, I'm not the one spiralling off on topics like deep sea
> exploration.
>
I know you are, but what am I?
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-07 04:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #599798 |
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not >>>>>>>>>>> "on the land portions of Earth". And we haven't even >>>>>>>>>>> gotten to my first choice yet, which would satisfy the >>>>>>>>>>> latter. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would want >>>>>>>>>> to live there? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no >>>>>>>>> large native mammals, if that helps you any. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Information free arm waving. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nearest store for beer and other sundries? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to >>>>>>>>>>> you in this context? How about a "Torricellian vacuum"? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how >>>>>>>>> close to the surface one needs to be to use one, please. >>>>>>>>> Sheesh. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots >>>>>>>> folds the tube. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being >>>>>>>>>>>> under water on Earth. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than >>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface >>>>>>>>>> works? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, >>>>>>>>> to him? It's basic physics... which he seems to not have >>>>>>>>> ever encountered. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and a >>>>>>>> pushing pump? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than >>>>>>>> 18,000 psi. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero >>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is >>>>>>>> underwater. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by >>>>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are so >>>>>>> many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme depths >>>>>>> under water that we don't spend much time there. Those who >>>>>>> do go down deep spend years in specialized training, and >>>>>>> boatloads of money in specialized equipment. For a reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a >>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the >>>>>> original discussion. >>>>>> >>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme depths. >>>>> This is more challenging than going to extreme depths for >>>>> short periods. >>>> >>>> Nope, just living underwater. >>> >>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a reason >>> it isn't done already. >> >> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of the >> same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to North >> Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming? > > Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to > believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - various > endeavours in the area. Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most people. When most people look at places to live, they look at things like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-06 22:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA699E1B88DB5Etaustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #599805 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not
>>>>>>>>>>>> "on the land portions of Earth". And we haven't even
>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to my first choice yet, which would satisfy
>>>>>>>>>>>> the latter.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would want
>>>>>>>>>>> to live there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no
>>>>>>>>>> large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nearest store for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to
>>>>>>>>>>>> you in this context? How about a "Torricellian
>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to
>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how
>>>>>>>>>> close to the surface one needs to be to use one,
>>>>>>>>>> please. Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots
>>>>>>>>> folds the tube.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water on Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface
>>>>>>>>>>> works?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up
>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems to
>>>>>>>>>> not have ever encountered.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and
>>>>>>>>> a pushing pump?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than
>>>>>>>>> 18,000 psi.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is
>>>>>>>>> underwater.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by
>>>>>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are so
>>>>>>>> many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme depths
>>>>>>>> under water that we don't spend much time there. Those
>>>>>>>> who do go down deep spend years in specialized training,
>>>>>>>> and boatloads of money in specialized equipment. For a
>>>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a
>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the
>>>>>>> original discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme
>>>>>> depths for short periods.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>
>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>
>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of the
>>> same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to North
>>> Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>
>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to
>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - various
>> endeavours in the area.
>
> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most people.
It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and significant
effort has to be put into not dying.
>
> When most people look at places to live, they look at things
> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the crime
> rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list.
>
The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers. There's
no lack of people willing to try any new, different, exotic,
*exciting* way of life.
Dumbass.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-06 23:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F73C64.6D0E@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #599807 |
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: > > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > > > In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy > > <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > >> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> > >>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy > >>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > >>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >>>> > >>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy > >>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > >>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy > >>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > >>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney > >>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney > >>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not > >>>>>>>>>>>> "on the land portions of Earth". And we haven't even > >>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to my first choice yet, which would satisfy > >>>>>>>>>>>> the latter. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would want > >>>>>>>>>>> to live there? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no > >>>>>>>>>> large native mammals, if that helps you any. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nearest store for beer and other sundries? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to > >>>>>>>>>>>> you in this context? How about a "Torricellian > >>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum"? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to > >>>>>>>>>>> you? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how > >>>>>>>>>> close to the surface one needs to be to use one, > >>>>>>>>>> please. Sheesh. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots > >>>>>>>>> folds the tube. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being > >>>>>>>>>>>>> under water on Earth. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than > >>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface > >>>>>>>>>>> works? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up > >>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems to > >>>>>>>>>> not have ever encountered. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and > >>>>>>>>> a pushing pump? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than > >>>>>>>>> 18,000 psi. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero > >>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is > >>>>>>>>> underwater. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by > >>>>>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are so > >>>>>>>> many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme depths > >>>>>>>> under water that we don't spend much time there. Those > >>>>>>>> who do go down deep spend years in specialized training, > >>>>>>>> and boatloads of money in specialized equipment. For a > >>>>>>>> reason. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a > >>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the > >>>>>>> original discussion. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme > >>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme > >>>>>> depths for short periods. > >>>>> > >>>>> Nope, just living underwater. > >>>> > >>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a > >>>> reason it isn't done already. > >>> > >>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of the > >>> same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to North > >>> Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming? > >> > >> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to > >> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - various > >> endeavours in the area. > > > > Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most people. > > It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and significant > effort has to be put into not dying. > > > > When most people look at places to live, they look at things > > like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the crime > > rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list. > > > The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers. There's > no lack of people willing to try any new, different, exotic, > *exciting* way of life. > > Dumbass. There is no "way of life." on Mars... 'Prepare to Die'. Dumbass. When you were born your mother said "He looks just like your Fther, except with more asshole." And when you came home from school and told your mother "Look Mom, I got an A!" She said, "I bet I know what the A stands for."
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